[Nicodimas]

I knew this next generation of college kids was bad and I know as you get older the younger children always seem..off kilter, but Wow.

The cry-bully generation in full effect:
http://www.dailymail...halk-signs.html

I am for one am simply disappointed that this next generation of children seemingly can't stand a difference in opinion at this level. I really felt that I was reading a onion-satirical level article here, right? I read more and more articles about this Crybully generation that is growing up and ponder how this is how America is shaping up to be and the future ramifications. The point of college is to expand out of your little town, little world you were raised in and grow outward and better yourself. Challenge your structure by hearing and listening to different opinions and form a more solid belief structure. Are these people even considered liberal really?

http://www.frontpage...CAVvNcg.twitter


On flip-side on this argument, I guess there will always be those folks at Con's who has the "you will burn", "your going to hell", etc. for you know liking dorky stuff. So I really hope these particular cry bullies among this generation just belong to a very, very small sub-sect of those lost-broken-hateful humans.

[amphibian]

There have been multiple incidents of mob violence vs black people at Trump rallies and protests of Trump. It's not unreasonable for black kids away from home in the deep south to start worrying about their safety. Blaming an entire generation is very stupid, especially since complaining about the next generation's values and virtues is as old as ancient Egypt and Babylon (earliest known written complaints about this topic).

That being said, this is chalk writings and hasn't metasized into something more.

[amphibian]

OK, the Enquirer has strongly hinted at identities of five women who have had an affair with Cruz. Two are easy to identify and are well known in DC/national media.

The Enquirer has a great track record on this stuff, so this is going to be taken as fact.

What does this do to Cruz's campaign?

[worry]

I think it tanks him, frankly. Obviously I don't care except in terms of the policy hypocrisy, but his constituency maybe ain't so calm about this kind of thing. KP used to be a big Cruz supporter in '12 but now she's a Trump spokesperson who's vitriolically opposed to Cruz. One of the other named people seems to really (personally) hate Cruz now too. Ultimately it sucks for all of them (and is maybe career destroying for the women, unfortunately and unfairly) and I wish bad policy would have been his downfall.

[Tsundoku]

Nicodimas, on 25 March 2016 - 01:45 AM, said:

I knew this next generation of college kids was bad and I know as you get older the younger children always seem..off kilter, but Wow.

The cry-bully generation in full effect:
http://www.dailymail...halk-signs.html

I am for one am simply disappointed that this next generation of children seemingly can't stand a difference in opinion at this level. I really felt that I was reading a onion-satirical level article here, right? I read more and more articles about this Crybully generation that is growing up and ponder how this is how America is shaping up to be and the future ramifications. The point of college is to expand out of your little town, little world you were raised in and grow outward and better yourself. Challenge your structure by hearing and listening to different opinions and form a more solid belief structure. Are these people even considered liberal really?

http://www.frontpage...CAVvNcg.twitter


On flip-side on this argument, I guess there will always be those folks at Con's who has the "you will burn", "your going to hell", etc. for you know liking dorky stuff. So I really hope these particular cry bullies among this generation just belong to a very, very small sub-sect of those lost-broken-hateful humans.

I take it that front page mag site is considered a bit right-of-centre? Actually the article made a lot of sense to me (except for the President Crybully part which was a bit over-the-top).

I quite liked this summary at the end:

"Crybullies are everything they claim to abhor. They are narcissists who complain about selfishness. Completely incapable of human empathy, they whine that no one cares about their feelings. They are prone to cowardly acts of violence, but demand safe spaces. They are bullies who say they’re bullied.

The crybully embodies the left. He is an oppressed oppressor. An abusive victim. A self-righteous hypocrite. A loudmouth censor. A civil rights activist who wants to take everyone’s rights away."

This link to an Atlantic article and accompanying video can't be denied:

http://www.theatlant...e-space/415080/

I wouldn't say they embody the Left, more that they embody an extreme part of leftist campus (in particular) politics. I'm just wondering what will happen when they leave their safe Uni spaces for the real world? Will they adapt to the real world and become more ... normal? Or will they have an effect in larger amounts as more and more of them graduate?

BTW - WTF is an "Identity Politics" degree? The new Sociology? And just as useless?

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 25 March 2016 - 04:40 AM

[Terez]

http://www.snopes.co...trump-graffiti/

[Grief]

Honestly, I find the "crybully" stuff incredibly ironic.

I see people bring it online plenty, often in tandem with complaints about "SJW's" or "political correctness gone mad".

Frankly, I think it's hilariously hypocritical. Generally they seem to use the phrase "crybully" to do the exact thing they are complaining about; that is, to paint themselves or their position as victims of the "crybullies". Notice how the frontpage article claims that "the real victims of the victimocracy aren’t inside it, but outside it". Wait a second... He's claiming the position of "real victim" in order to criticise other people for playing victimhood politics. It's truly farcical.

In actual fact -- when you look at the details of specific events -- it's usually just a case of people utilising their own free speech in a way that the article writers don't like. This XKCD comic comes to mind. Of course, the article keeps things vague. He presents things in terms of suffering, victimhood, or undefined "social justice" causes. Which makes it much easier to mask the underlying claim that the "real victims" are not the people hurt by racism, sexism, or other social issues -- instead the "real victims" are the people who get criticized by the left for being racist, sexist, etc.

This stands out to me as particularly great: "The crybully embodies the left. He is an oppressed oppressor". Of course, playing the victim is unique to one part of the political spectrum (they say as they complain about how they are being oppressed by the left). Here, they're taking this rhetorical tactic, and deliberately assigning it to the political stance they presumably dislike. Of course, we can just as easily assign it to their own exact argument -- what exactly are people using "they're bullying us and taking away our free speech!" to try and silence and condemn other people if not "crybuliies"?

Likewise, it's amazing that someone had so little self-awareness that they would use the tagline "shut up, they're upset" to criticise someone else's speech actions... that's really just too funny.

I could write more -- really the whole issue is a bit of a goldmine -- but the post is getting long. I'm sure you get the gist of it: these people are doing the exact thing they're complaining about.

Also, academia has always been a target for people complaining about the left. Try to bear in mind just how many campusses exist, and just how many students there are. As a student, I must say that the media narrative here simply strikes me as fearmongering, pandering to historically ubiquituous sentiments and worries about "the youth of today". Take it with a massive grain of salt, and remember what previous generations said about your own.

[Gust Hubb]

Is anyone following Cruz's upcoming down fall? The man gets around apparently.

[amphibian]

Reports are that Rubio's bunch are behind Cruz's affairs coming out now. Whoof. This is complex.

[Tsundoku]

Whoa. This is what we're getting on that. Looks like one big mess:

http://www.news.com....4c154793bc0dfd8

[Terez]

Yeah, and the only counties reporting so far are outside Seattle. Most of the Twitter precinct reports I saw were from Seattle, and he's doing even better there. He'll win the state with at least 70% of the vote, and by the time today is over with he might have cut 100 delegates from Hillary's lead.

[Terez]

Bernie still killing in Washington, and even more in Alaska. Both states have been called for him. The Hawaii caucuses are underway.

This post has been edited by Terez: 26 March 2016 - 11:39 PM

[worry]

Not to brag, but West Coast is the best coast. Anyway, I know these margins are "necessary" but beyond that I just think they're wonderful to see. Wish CA would swing that way but it's kinda looking like a Clinton state. Lotsa NIMBY-style fake liberals here.

[Tsundoku]

Good grief! Is it going to happen to her twice?

Nah, one word - superdelegates. Already bought and paid for.

[Terez]

Tsundoku, on 27 March 2016 - 01:42 AM, said:

Good grief! Is it going to happen to her twice?

Nah, one word - superdelegates. Already bought and paid for.

We'll see, if it comes to that. Bernie still has a hard road ahead if he wants to cut into her lead in pledged delegates. Today was a very good day for him but he needs a few more days like this, and to prevent her from having good days to nullify his gains. Assuming he does overtake her in pledged delegates, though, there will be a lot of pressure on superdelegates to follow the voters, at least proportionally. As someone said on CNN earlier, superdelegates have never (since primaries started actually counting for something) decided a nomination, and they're probably not going to start this year. It would be very undemocratic, not all that different from what the Republicans are contemplating with their convention.

We should start getting some results from Hawaii soon. Meanwhile, these three districts in Alaska. (The Vote totals are not individual voters, but county delegates earned at the caucuses.)

This post has been edited by Terez: 27 March 2016 - 01:55 AM

[Grief]

Tsundoku, on 27 March 2016 - 01:42 AM, said:

Good grief! Is it going to happen to her twice?

Nah, one word - superdelegates. Already bought and paid for.

I doubt the superdelegates would decide it, from what I've read; as Terez says it would be undemocratic and anger a huge number of people. It's the pledged delegates he needs to worry about, and the gap there is far different from what it was against Obama. Today was a good day for him, but he needs everyday to be a good day at this point afaics, and it doesn't seem especially realistic to me (in terms of actually winning the nomination).

[Terez]

Just a bunch of largely white states that border Vermont. Nothing to see here.

[Tiste Simeon]

Slightly dramatic title perhaps but it helped make things a bit clearer for me as to what the Republicans are currently up to and what might happen...
Five ways Republican bloodbath could end - http://www.bbc.co.uk...s-2016-35888135

[Tsundoku]

Just saw this comment on the BBC website in an article about how Europe hates Trump but does it matter to Americans?

"755. Posted by Phil
on
5 Mar 2016 22:55

Trump does for the US what ISIS does for islam"



http://www.bbc.com/n...gazine-35702584

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 31 March 2016 - 11:41 AM

[worry]

I don't think it'll matter to people who plan to vote Trump in the primary. But the primary is a 3-man race (or 4, since Rubio beat Kasich in Arizona and Idaho even after dropping out) that involves the least informed, to-some-degree meanest portion of the populace and is only representative of that. I know it sounds ridiculous after the second GWB term, but I do think most Americans have at least a vague sense of wanting the country to be respected abroad. I can't say it's even a top 5 issue for most people, but I do think most people realize (or will come to) just how big an embarrassment he would be. And most people just don't like him already: https://www.washingt...even-white-men/