[Tsundoku]

Donate to the Republican party all major political parties.

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 27 November 2017 - 09:21 AM

[Cause]

So trump no says the tape where he says grab em by the pussy is fake, even though he apologized for it back in 2016. Does he have reality warping powers?

[Macros]

Just a really warped mind

[Brujah]

He's a mind-bender. SSJ5000

[Tiste Simeon]

I think he honestly believes that whatever comes out of his mouth is gospel, regardless of anything that went before.

[QuickTidal]

Tiste Simeon, on 27 November 2017 - 04:28 PM, said:

I think he honestly believes that whatever comes out of his mouth is gospel, regardless of anything that went before.

More of a narcissist than I think I've ever encountered in my life and reading, perhaps moreso than Alexander of Macedon...which is a feat....he though he was a bloody god.

[Gorefest]

Indeed, that is not merely as deluded as Trump thinking that he is a successful businessman.

[HoosierDaddy]

Trump said he could shoot someone in downtown New York and his voters wouldn't care.

He's right.

Megalomania be damned, they will support him no matter what happens. At this point is it megalomania or uncanny ability to sucker people? They've been suckering low income white people for years into believing it's better to give rich people tax breaks than provide true support; this is just the next step.

What's wrong with Kansas? Everything is wrong but they don't care so it doesn't matter what you explain.

This is what drives me batty about Bernie or busters. If they won't vote centrist because that's "too liberal" (and this isn't exhaustive, but a large group), ain't no way in hell they are voting for Bernie Sanders.

[worry]

I'm not a Bernie or Buster by any means -- as I've said, mostly about Trump supporters, I abhor the human sacrifice element of voter absolutism -- but in their defense: at least they recognize where the Overton Window currently is. At the risk of repeating myself: Centrists, on the other hand, are stuck on stupid and all of their reach-across-the-aisle hogwash -- including Obama's "we all want the same thing, just disagree about how to get there" -- to a party dominated by corporate fascists, KKKers, Nazis, and Tea Party morons should be drowned in a river.

So I agree with you about the fact that people who think HRC of all people is "too liberal" won't go for Bernie, but it's not the left wing of the party that's trying to court them, it's the establishment. It was Clinton, not Sanders; it is Tom Perez, not Keith Ellison. As we know, ~12% of Bernie primary voters were "Bernie or Busters". But ~25% of 2008 HRC supporters were Hillary-or-Busters who went with McCain over Obama. Centrist/conservative Dems are the problem, time and again, not lefties.

By and large, Dems lose because they're Republican-lite, not because there isn't a huge segment of voters who agree with progressive policies -- no 'pragmatic' centrism, no 'baby steps' on human rights, no pro-corporate agenda with sugar on top -- but actual fighting for human & civil rights, anti-corporatism, a robust social safety net, and yah even protecting abortion rights. Obama's campaign -- even if he didn't live up to everything he talked about -- combined the moneyball stuff w/ a hope & change message. HRC halfassed the moneyball stuff in the hopes of convincing non-existent on-the-fence MAYBE-MAGAs and jettisoned the hope and change completely.

[worry]

Sorry if I got too 2016-y there.

On a more forward-thinking note, here is Danica Roem talking sense about her campaign and why she won, in a way all politicians need to pay attention to:
https://twitter.com/...165069880692738

[Macros]

Will Flynn's testimony change much?

[Vengeance]

Macros, on 01 December 2017 - 06:03 PM, said:

Will Flynn's testimony change much?

Yes. He reportedly is able to confirm that a very high official in Trump's campaign knew of the Russian contacts and told Flynn to contact not only Russia but other countries and interfere in Obama foreign policy while Obama is President. That is a huge issue. Frankly Flynn flipping is about the worst news possible for Trump. Next will be Kushner and then the President.

This makes 3 senior people in the Trump camp that have been flipped and 1 junior who probably wore a wire.

[QuickTidal]

Vengeance, on 01 December 2017 - 06:18 PM, said:

Next will be Kushner and then the President.

I think Don. Jr. is going down in between Kushner and the President, but otherwise I agree.

[worry]

It feels like a sci fi movie where they're piloting a rickety ship down through the atmosphere and they're not sure it's gonna hold together, except instead of a ship it's our norms. Are they gonna hold together long enough to save us? Whoops, there goes debate on the Senate floor, flying off like a solar panel. Dang we're being bombarded by McConnell particles.

[EmperorMagus]

The way they passed this tax bill.

I cannot believe the world has come to this. The 500 page bill was fucking handwritten in some parts. The United States Senate just voted and passed a bill without taking the time to type it.

I always thought the Iranian Majlis a congress of buffoons and Canadian senate the most pointless institution to ever exist in a liberal democracy.

Edit: As all you guys now, I have no stake at all in this crisis, but doesn't mean this blatant rape of rational thought and democratic norms doesn't make my blood boil.

This post has been edited by EmperorMagus: 02 December 2017 - 10:34 AM

[Tsundoku]

I assume you're referring to this?

http://www.news.com....35a2f246a7a2296

I read it and saw a picture of a smiling Mitch McConnell and I thought "That's the smile of a man who knows no multi-millionaire donor of his will go hungry tonight".
I swear that fucker eats the souls of middle- and working-class people.

[Silencer]

If America isn't actually an oligarchy yet, it's going to be one by the time Trump's term is over if the Republicans aren't roundly defeated in 2018. May the rest of the world take heed of the warning.

[Macros]

i saw a video of the bill that was passed.

I cant believe that shit is acceptable in congress. it looks like a draft script thats been torn apart by 3 different teams of writters.

some of it isnt even legible.

how is that an acceptable form to pass a bill in

[HoosierDaddy]

Because it isn't the final bill and will go to conference committee (you realize they are beholden to rich people, right?). Plus they are the most unsuccessful congress in memory in terms of passing anything so at this point anything will do.

[worry]

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