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#1841 Obdigore

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:39 PM

Did... did you just link a random article in the discussion forum, and not make any comment at all?

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:44 PM

I'm going to have to assume it's a pro-Trump post.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:45 PM

worry, on 28 July 2015 - 11:44 PM, said:

I'm going to have to assume it's a pro-Trump post.

They always are.

In other news, Obama suggested he could win a third term if he ran.

I don't disagree.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 07:14 AM

Obdigore, on 28 July 2015 - 11:45 PM, said:

worry, on 28 July 2015 - 11:44 PM, said:

I'm going to have to assume it's a pro-Trump post.

They always are.

In other news, Obama suggested he could win a third term if he ran.

I don't disagree.

Despite being hampered every time by the Republicans, he's done some good stuff. And most other (European) countries like Obama, so yeah, if he could run, I could see him winning. I'd have no issues with that - as a European.

But if Trump - God forbid! - wins, the USA is going to be the laughing stock of the world. No one will take the USA seriously if he's helming the country. But I'm sure Trump's bid is just for publicity...right? RIGHT? XD

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 12:44 PM

Oh no, not a trump supporter. Just enjoy that man's antics and hope he takes down the bloody republican party. I am so far a Bernie Sanders man myself.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 07:28 PM

Lycaenion, on 29 July 2015 - 07:14 AM, said:

Obdigore, on 28 July 2015 - 11:45 PM, said:

worry, on 28 July 2015 - 11:44 PM, said:

I'm going to have to assume it's a pro-Trump post.

They always are.

In other news, Obama suggested he could win a third term if he ran.

I don't disagree.

0% chance.

His nomination would guarantee a Democratic victory.

Frankly, it'd probably guarantee a 3rd party nominee as most Republicans find him as repugnant as everyone else.

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 01:50 AM

Briar King, on 30 July 2015 - 01:40 AM, said:

Obdigore, on 28 July 2015 - 11:45 PM, said:

worry, on 28 July 2015 - 11:44 PM, said:

I'm going to have to assume it's a pro-Trump post.

They always are.

In other news, Obama suggested he could win a third term if he ran.

I don't disagree.

I do wonder if we'll ever go back to the Imperial Era where they can serve more then 2. I remember reading rumors on FB last yr or yr before saying he was trying to get in for 3 but I didn't really read them close cause most of the people posting it always post "doom n gloom" shit.

Obama said if stood for a third term, he would probably win . I think he is correct. But after FDR's epic stay I don't think the two-term rule will be revoked.

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 03:07 AM

Andorion, on 30 July 2015 - 01:50 AM, said:

Briar King, on 30 July 2015 - 01:40 AM, said:

Obdigore, on 28 July 2015 - 11:45 PM, said:

worry, on 28 July 2015 - 11:44 PM, said:

I'm going to have to assume it's a pro-Trump post.

They always are.

In other news, Obama suggested he could win a third term if he ran.

I don't disagree.

Obama said if stood for a third term, he would probably win . I think he is correct. But after FDR's epic stay I don't think the two-term rule will be revoked.

Well Constitutional Amendments aren't easy to get around.....

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 11:41 AM

Be kind of hypocritical with all the African elections scandalized by presidents taking or considering a third term. I forget the country, but it was big news about a week ago.

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 12:41 PM

It's definitely more 'illegal' than 'hypocritical' and Obama is pretty far from a tyrannical dictator unless you're watching the Fox entertainment channel.

It's also been a while since I saw someone innocuously link Obama and Africa, I should take a break from reading about US politics (it's less depressing than UK politics since it's more removed, and also it can be hilarious if you're not in that country)

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 06:58 PM

I have been thinking for months now that your level of engagement with our politics is somewhat unhealthy. Not that I begrudge you the right to care.

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 08:44 PM

Just because your kid moves out doesn't mean you stop caring.

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 10:06 PM

Yes, but Illy used to be funny. Now he's just cynical all the time (though of course, I don't go to the Inn, so what do I know). Anyway, sometimes he knows more about what's going on than I do, and that's just weird.

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Please proceed, Governor.

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There it is.

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 02:36 AM

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Illy's ascending.

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 04:20 AM

Illy ascended a long time ago. Now he's bored, or something.

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 07:02 PM

Gust Hubb, on 30 July 2015 - 11:41 AM, said:

Be kind of hypocritical with all the African elections scandalized by presidents taking or considering a third term. I forget the country, but it was big news about a week ago.

Uhhhhhh

The reason Obama said the third term thing during a speech in Africa was to point out that term limits on presidents was a good thing.

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 08:00 PM

Man, just was saying if. Not against Obama at all and wouldn't mind him having a third term. not really meant to be all that serous

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 11:55 AM

Even more interesting ...

http://www.bbc.com/n...canada-33723768

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 07:50 PM

The problem with that is it's a pipe dream at any scale large enough to matter. Black conservatives already vote Republican, and 0.5 of the candidates offer anything to the rest. That 0.5 is Rand Paul, who attracts the selfish baby who isn't particularly socially conservative contingent of every population, ie the libertarians and low information voters. As @crushingbort aptly summed up the philosophy, "hmm well I'd say I'm fiscally conservative but socially very liberal. the problems are bad but their causes...their causes are very good". And Paul is right there with his brethren calling for the defunding of Planned Parenthood, for instance. Conflating paying taxes w/ supporting the wars and some (not unwelcome) talk about civil rights may attract some young inexperienced voters, but it's not going to overwhelm the Republican primary. And neither Paul nor any other Rep candidate has any chance of breaking open the Democratic voting bloc.

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