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#15561
Posted Today, 11:52 AM
To no one's surprise but (hopefully) to everyone's anger, CECOT is a full-on torture camp.
#15562
Posted Today, 12:39 PM
8 Democrats caved, ensuring that the messaging the R's have been hammering away at for 40 days (that this is the Democrats shutdown) will stick now since democrats caved on it without getting ANY concessions. Making the last 40 days worth absolutely nothing.
Establishment Democrats are just as bad as the R's in a lot of cases.
Establishment Democrats are just as bad as the R's in a lot of cases.
"When the last tree has fallen, and the rivers are poisoned, you cannot eat money, oh no." ~Aurora
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
#15563
Posted Today, 01:22 PM
QuickTidal, on 10 November 2025 - 12:39 PM, said:
8 Democrats caved, ensuring that the messaging the R's have been hammering away at for 40 days (that this is the Democrats shutdown) will stick now since democrats caved on it without getting ANY concessions. Making the last 40 days worth absolutely nothing.
Establishment Democrats are just as bad as the R's in a lot of cases.
Establishment Democrats are just as bad as the R's in a lot of cases.
Yip, absolutely mind boggling.
So pardons for Rudy Gullianai, Sidney Powell, Mark Meadows and false electors. One week after the republicans got an election drubbing. If thats not a signal that there will be no repercussions so long as we win I dont know what is.
Also since technically accepting the pardon is an admission of guilt doesnt this mean acknowledging outright they tried to subvert an election
This post has been edited by Cause: Today, 01:23 PM
#15564
Posted Today, 01:50 PM
Cause, on 10 November 2025 - 01:22 PM, said:
QuickTidal, on 10 November 2025 - 12:39 PM, said:
8 Democrats caved, ensuring that the messaging the R's have been hammering away at for 40 days (that this is the Democrats shutdown) will stick now since democrats caved on it without getting ANY concessions. Making the last 40 days worth absolutely nothing.
Establishment Democrats are just as bad as the R's in a lot of cases.
Establishment Democrats are just as bad as the R's in a lot of cases.
Yip, absolutely mind boggling.
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So pardons for Rudy Gullianai, Sidney Powell, Mark Meadows and false electors. One week after the republicans got an election drubbing. If that's not a signal that there will be no repercussions so long as we win I don't know what is.
Trump has learned that being ruthless, cruel, destructive, and psychopathic will get him his way, because enough "weak" Democrats will cave.
With the pardons it seems like he's obviously preparing to contest---or outright steal---the 2026 elections.
"Do what Trump wilt is the whole of the law"...
On that note, I'm a little surprised Trump apparently isn't trying to just destroy the most damning evidence against him in the Epstein files. It would be tricky because copies may be held by the House Oversight Committee and by court system, but the executive branch has authority over the people who actually guard the documents, so Trump could order them fired, have his loyal "law enforcement" goons go in and destroy the records, then pardon everyone involved.
Or maybe it's just taking a while to set that up...
This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: Today, 01:50 PM
#15565
Posted Today, 02:00 PM
Azath Vitr (D, on 10 November 2025 - 01:50 PM, said:
Cause, on 10 November 2025 - 01:22 PM, said:
QuickTidal, on 10 November 2025 - 12:39 PM, said:
8 Democrats caved, ensuring that the messaging the R's have been hammering away at for 40 days (that this is the Democrats shutdown) will stick now since democrats caved on it without getting ANY concessions. Making the last 40 days worth absolutely nothing.
Establishment Democrats are just as bad as the R's in a lot of cases.
Establishment Democrats are just as bad as the R's in a lot of cases.
Yip, absolutely mind boggling.
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So pardons for Rudy Gullianai, Sidney Powell, Mark Meadows and false electors. One week after the republicans got an election drubbing. If that's not a signal that there will be no repercussions so long as we win I don't know what is.
Trump has learned that being ruthless, cruel, destructive, and psychopathic will get him his way, because enough "weak" Democrats will cave.
Worse he's learned that NO ONE at any level of government or courts will EVER hold him accountable. Not even the (supposed) opposition political party.
The Rs just got handed a bunch of losses in elections the other night...and almost like clockwork the Establishment Dems prove they have no interest in upsetting the status quo and have capitulated to him...letting the Rs yank a win out of all this anyways....
This post has been edited by QuickTidal: Today, 02:00 PM
"When the last tree has fallen, and the rivers are poisoned, you cannot eat money, oh no." ~Aurora
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
"Someone will always try to sell you despair, just so they don't feel alone." ~Ursula Vernon
#15566
Posted Today, 06:41 PM
QuickTidal, on 10 November 2025 - 12:39 PM, said:
8 Democrats caved, ensuring that the messaging the R's have been hammering away at for 40 days (that this is the Democrats shutdown) will stick now since democrats caved on it without getting ANY concessions. Making the last 40 days worth absolutely nothing.
Establishment Democrats are just as bad as the R's in a lot of cases.
Establishment Democrats are just as bad as the R's in a lot of cases.
This has been incredibly upsetting to me. I'm hoping that the broad negative reactions from Democrats around the country will be enough to force some of these DINOs to change their minds (or, more realistically, buck from Schumer's backroom dealings) before the votes this week.
This post has been edited by Whisperzzzzzzz: Today, 06:43 PM
#15567
Posted Today, 07:43 PM
Its political malpractice! Surely they have strategy advisors.
Air traffic was having to shut down weeks before thanksgiving. The presidency was openly making headlines about not wanting to try and feed poor people, 1/7th of the country, weeks before thanksgiving. Polls showed the public overwhelmingly blamed republicans. The recent election wave showed the public was dissatisfied with the current direction. They caved for the promise of a vote? A vote that will fail? It will prove the republicans dont care about funding healthcare, which was already proved by the government shutdown.
Air traffic was having to shut down weeks before thanksgiving. The presidency was openly making headlines about not wanting to try and feed poor people, 1/7th of the country, weeks before thanksgiving. Polls showed the public overwhelmingly blamed republicans. The recent election wave showed the public was dissatisfied with the current direction. They caved for the promise of a vote? A vote that will fail? It will prove the republicans dont care about funding healthcare, which was already proved by the government shutdown.
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