[Mentalist]

HoosierDaddy, on 14 March 2025 - 08:13 PM, said:

What it is is capitulation. I'm damn tired of them rolling over. The people voted for this pain. LET THEM HAVE IT.

but look on the bright side, the stock market is up

/s

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

Trump administration on Schumer:

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Trump Antisemitism Chief Shares White Nationalist's Post

[...] a video of Trump asserting [...] Schumer[...] is "not Jewish anymore." ">Trump has the ability to revoke someone's Jew card," [white nationalist] Casey replied. Terrell, who is African American, reposted the remark [...] Terrell, who is not Jewish, announced soon after his appointment that he would be investigating universities that "allow antisemitic behavior to take place."

https://www.thedaily...ionalists-post/

Like nightmare dream logic... well here's hoping it was all a dream.

[Macros]

Musk now says hitler didn't kill anyone, it was public service workers?
Really?
Why has that clown fuck not been deported

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

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Schmidt's family said they are unsure of why he is being held. They said he has a recently renewed green card, and no active issues in court.

[...] being "violently interrogated" at [Boston's] Logan Airport for hours, and being stripped naked, put in a cold shower [...] immigration agents pressured him to give up his green card. [...] he was placed on a mat in a bright room with other people at the airport, with little food or water, suffered sleep deprivation, and was denied access to his medication for anxiety and depression.

"He hardly got anything to drink. And then he wasn't feeling very well and he collapsed," [...]

Senior described her son as a hardworking electrical engineer with a partner and 8-year-old daughter who are both U.S. citizens.

Schmidt had a misdemeanor charge for having marijuana in his car in 2015, which his mother said was dismissed after laws changed in California around marijuana possession. [...] and had a DUI that he's completely worked through and paid off from around ten years ago.

[...] For marijuana convictions, a person is deportable unless the conviction is for possession of 30 grams or less of marijuana for one's own use, she said. Otherwise, any controlled substances offense makes a green card holder deportable.

https://www.nhpr.org...irport-detained

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Possession of not more than 28.5 grams of marijuana (a bit more than an ounce) for personal use is legal in California

https://www.shousela...abis%20(hashish).

So since it was dismissed in California after the law changed he almost certainly had less than 30 grams and so could not be deported for that. The DUI was apparently for alcohol, but

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Under the Uniform Controlled Substances Act, alcohol is not a controlled substance.

https://www.law.corn...ed%20substance.

So unless his family is mistaken about his criminal record there seem to be no grounds to deport him.

I'm surprised that so many of these stories have been about apparently non-Hispanic, non-Muslim white people getting detained by ICE---or is it just that those are the ones news organization have been granting headlines? Statistically they're probably still disproportionately targeting people of color, Muslims, and Hispanic people.

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 15 March 2025 - 07:55 PM

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It's the latter. They're rounding up plenty of non-white people, but the news isn't often interested in their individual stories. But you might hear more broadly about other non-white groups being held at Guantanamo Bay, or being flown to Central or South America en masse (with some resistance and some compliance, depending on the country). I guess one individual story making headlines is the deportation of a U.S. Citizen child with brain cancer (interrupting her treatments) as well as her siblings, to go along with their non-citizen parents. And of course, trying to deport actual permanent residents for being involved in protests. Revoking visas and denaturalizing naturalized citizens, particularly non-whites, is very much among this administration's ethnic cleansing goals (it was in the early stages his last term, but they're holding back less this time).

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

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Trump administration deports hundreds of immigrants even as a judge orders their removals be stopped

U.S. District Judge [...] Boasberg issued an order Saturday blocking the deportations, but lawyers told him there were already two planes with immigrants in the air — one headed for El Salvador, the other for Honduras. Boasberg verbally ordered the planes be turned around, but they apparently were not and he did not include the directive in his written order.

In a court filing Sunday, the Department of Justice, which has appealed Boasberg's decision, said the immigrants "had already been removed from U.S. territory" when the written order was issued [...]

Trump's allies were gleeful over the results.

"Oopsie…Too late,"

https://apnews.com/a...bcaba7d4fc7c9af

"Even as"... a verbal order to turn the planes around should still be legally binding.

And in this next case, even after:

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Doctor and Professor Is Deported Despite a Judge's Order

Dr. Rasha Alawieh, a kidney transplant specialist and Brown University professor who had a valid visa, was expelled in apparent defiance of a court order.

[...] In a second order filed Sunday morning, the judge said there was reason to believe U.S. Customs and Border Protection had willfully disobeyed his previous order to give the court notice before expelling the doctor.

[...] said in an affidavit that she went to the airport Friday and notified Customs and Border Protection officials there — before the flight to Paris was scheduled to depart — that there was a court order barring the doctor's expulsion.

There is a shortage of American doctors working in Dr. Alawieh's area of specialty: organ transplants. The field is known for grueling, unpredictable work hours.

https://www.nytimes....r-deported.html

Like the (German citizen, greencard holding) electrical engineer, the doctor was also detained at Boston's Logan Airport.

Any noncitizen flying into Logan Airport should really be careful... and maybe consider going to a different airport. It seems (to me at least) like they might be pressing them to fulfill some sort of terrible idiotic quota of deportations. Or they may have just made some awful hires (the one case where DOGE cuts could be beneficial... but they'd probably get rid of any good apples hanging around the rabid would-be little god-emperor-sandworms).

[QuickTidal]

So apparently last night on Truth Social Trump claimed that all Bidens Pardons were null and void?


Like he can't do that....but again, who is going to stop him? There is no rule of law in the USA, as no one is enforcing the laws.

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

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Trump [...] defended his use of an 18th century wartime law to deport hundreds of alleged gang members by insisting "this is a time of war" and offering up his oft-repeated, baseless claim that foreign countries have emptied their prisons into the United States.

[...] Citing sources familiar with the matter, ABC News reported Sunday that the administration knowingly ignored the [judge's] order [to turn the planes around], which the White House denied.

[Trump:] "This is a time of war because Biden allowed millions of people, many of them criminals, many of them at the highest level, they emptied jails out, other nations emptied their jails into the United States. That's an invasion. [...] In many respects, it's more dangerous than war because[...] in war, they have uniforms. You know who you're shooting at, you know who you're going after."

https://www.thedaily...ortation-power/

So they could be "going after" (hopefully not "shooting at"---but we'll see) anyone who remotely fits the profile---or could help them get their numbers up.

At least the Trump administration still feels obliged to bother denying that they knowingly defied the judge's order.

[HoosierDaddy]

Trump's border czar (whatever the fuck that means, I can't pin down an actual title and position):

"We're not stopping. I don't care what the judges think. I don't care what the left thinks. We're coming," Tom Homan, the Trump administration's border czar, said on Fox News.

Can they provide a check on power:

Courts? Nope
Congress? Nope.
Guillotine? Looks like that's a TBD.

This post has been edited by HoosierDaddy: 17 March 2025 - 06:48 PM

[QuickTidal]

HoosierDaddy, on 17 March 2025 - 06:48 PM, said:

Trump's border czar (whatever the fuck that means, I can't pin down an actual title and position):

"We're not stopping. I don't care what the judges think. I don't care what the left thinks. We're coming," Tom Homan, the Trump administration's border czar, said on Fox News.

Can they provide a check on power:


Guillotine? Looks like that's a TBD.

I'm fascinated to know if the people doing this heinous shit are history savvy enough to understand that when they push the proverbial "people" too far, that they will walk that exact same road.

I keep seeing veterans on social media getting red in the face angry about what's happening to them and their supports and I'm like...one of those people who are literally TRAINED for war is going to have their supports cut, or family supports cut and then it's Luigi time.


Do people like Homan, or Musk or anyone else amongst them have any self awareness? Or do they truly think there is no line they can cross that will cause that snap in someone or someone(s)?

[QuickTidal]

It should be noted that Trump supposedly deported Venezuelan gang members....but he didn't deport them to Venezuela, he deported them to a prison in fucking El Salvador, that NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN RELEASED FROM. It sounds like a nightmarish place. No due process, nothing AND ignoring judges orders about it and making sure that the planes were in the air before anyone could do anything about it.

[HoosierDaddy]

As far as I am aware, none of the people who this is happening to are WHITE. It's so transparent.

Maybe I'm wrong and it's equal opportunity, but I don't think so.

[QuickTidal]

And then you've got JD Vance saying that the Dems kept those violent rapists in the country...and that Trump sent them out....it's like "Hey JD, you fucking nonce, your guy just facilitated the return of a credibly alleged rapist and his brother from another country cause they support Trump...so maybe shut the fuck up?"

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 18 March 2025 - 12:38 PM

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

HoosierDaddy, on 18 March 2025 - 12:23 PM, said:

As far as I am aware, none of the people who this is happening to are WHITE. It's so transparent.

Maybe I'm wrong and it's equal opportunity, but I don't think so.

As I mentioned earlier, there have been a bunch of stories about white people being detained for extended periods by ICE. Most recently that electrical engineer (green card, originally from Germany, they tried to get him to give up his green card). Also the German tattoo artist and the British tourist off the top of my head. The kidney transplant specialist who was deported to Lebanon also looks very white, although her Muslim name might make her "non-white" to CBP and ICE:




But that doesn't mean it's "equal opportunity"---while ICE claims that they don't collect racial data, they're almost certainly detaining and deporting many more people of color.

[HoosierDaddy]

Azath Vitr (D, on 18 March 2025 - 12:55 PM, said:

HoosierDaddy, on 18 March 2025 - 12:23 PM, said:

As far as I am aware, none of the people who this is happening to are WHITE. It's so transparent.

Maybe I'm wrong and it's equal opportunity, but I don't think so.

As I mentioned earlier, there have been a bunch of stories about white people being detained for extended periods by ICE. Most recently that electrical engineer (green card, originally from Germany, they tried to get him to give up his green card). Also the German tattoo artist and the British tourist off the top of my head. The kidney transplant specialist who was deported to Lebanon also looks very white, although her Muslim name might make her "non-white" to CBP and ICE:




But that doesn't mean it's "equal opportunity"---while ICE claims that they don't collect racial data, they're almost certainly detaining and deporting many more people of color.

There will always be some "innocents" caught up, doesn't mean it isn't all going according to plan.

I'm very skeptical this isn't just continued race-baiting for the base.

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

HoosierDaddy, on 18 March 2025 - 02:03 PM, said:

There will always be some "innocents" caught up, doesn't mean it isn't all going according to plan.

I'm very skeptical this isn't just continued race-baiting for the base.

They also hate white liberals. CBP searches and seizes people's phones and other electronic devices at airports and border crossings, and I suspect that if you're a noncitizen then anything MAGA (or that particular agent) doesn't like might get you detained. They also log in to your social media accounts to check for content they don't like.

If you've preemptively deleted things, as the doctor did two days before she was detained, make sure you've also emptied out your recycling bin or your phone's deleted items folder---that's where they found the "sympathetic photos and videos" on Dr. Alawieh's phone.

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Asked about the photos and videos of Nasrallah and other leaders connected to Hezbollah, Alawieh said she's apolitical and had the images because those leaders are revered by many Shia Muslims.

"So I have a lot of Whatsapp groups with families and friends who send them. So I am a Shia Muslim and he is a religious figure. He has a lot of teachings and he is highly regarded in the Shia community," Alawieh said, according to the transcript filed in court

https://www.politico...ortation-026038

You can refuse to enter your password, but that may lead them to seize your devices and not return them, and they'll try to break into them. It might also inspire them to detain you indefinitely.

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 18 March 2025 - 02:40 PM

[QuickTidal]

Azath Vitr (D, on 18 March 2025 - 02:38 PM, said:

CBP searches and seizes people's phones and other electronic devices at airports and border crossings, and I suspect that if you're a noncitizen then anything MAGA (or that particular agent) doesn't like might get you detained. They also log in to your social media accounts to check for content they don't like.

If you've preemptively deleted things, as the doctor did two days before she was detained, make sure you've also emptied out your recycling bin or your phone's deleted items folder---that's where they found the "sympathetic photos and videos" on Dr. Alawieh's phone.

Yeah, this was definitely a thing that we (as Canadians who hate Trump) were warned about before going into the states during his first term (We deleted social media apps off our phones before we went down to Florida)...nothing happened mind you, but we didn't want to chance it...and that was his first term....I expect that to be on steroids now for a lot of people who "look wrong" in this 2nd vengeful admin where fascism seems the order of the day.

[Abyss]

I know a few people who cancelled their planned US March break trips, a few others who went ahead - incl visible minorities of Middle-Eastern origin, and non-het - and reported business as usual for travel, no drama (tho not surprisingly most who went had at least a lawyer's name/number in hand just in case).

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

The frequency with which they check smartphones and electronic devices probably varies substantially in different areas, with them doing more rarely in economies that are heavily dependent on tourism.

Granted, it could just be a coincidence that two of those horror stories happened at Logan Airport.

Here's the latest non-Hispanic white person to make it into a New York Times headline:

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Canadian Who Was in an 'American Pie' Video Says ICE Held Her for 12 Days

Jasmine Mooney, 35, said she was put "in chains" after immigration enforcement officers flagged her visa application paperwork.

[... at] the San Ysidro, Calif., border crossing, the busiest in the United States [...] Ms. Mooney, [a former actress] who had been offered a marketing job with a U.S.-based health and wellness startup, said that what happened next had blindsided her.

Spoiler

"They say, 'Hands on the wall,'" [...]

Her ordeal bore similarity to several other seemingly unexplained detentions at the border, which have grabbed headlines and put people like Ms. Mooney into a legal purgatory of an ever-changing immigration system under the Trump administration.

For the next two days, she said, she was confined to a small cell at the border station, where she was given a mat and a mylar blanket for sleeping. She said she had tried to reason with an immigration enforcement officer, to no avail, and had been transferred to an ICE detention center near San Diego in a jumpsuit and shackles.

"I'm not trying to be here illegally," Ms. Mooney said she told the officer. "I just want to go home."

As she was loaded into a prisoner van, she said, the reality of her situation sank in.

"They put you in chains," she said. "That's when I realized they are onboarding me into a real prison."

https://www.nytimes....ctress-ice.html

But again the vast majority being detained and deported are probably people of color, and mostly Latino. It's being alleged that at least some of the Venezuelans illegally deported to El Salvador were accused of being "gang members" just because they had non-gang related tattoos.

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Trump waging 'sickening' psychological war, deported Venezuelan's lawyer says

One detained man's lawyer says he is gay artist who had fled persecution in his home country, not a gang member [...]

"In my 15 years of representing people in removal proceedings in the United States, this is the most shocking thing that I've ever seen happen to one of our clients," [...]

[...] he was an LGBTQ+ artist who had fled political persecution in an increasingly repressive Venezuela [...] he passed a "credible fear interview" used by asylum officers to determine whether asylum seekers have reasonable grounds to request protection in the US.

[...] he appeared to have been wrongly identified as a gang member by immigration enforcement officials as a result of "some benign tattoos that are not gang related".

"We're all in just absolute shock that this has happened," [...] "We feel like if it could happen to him, who's next? And that's really frightening."

https://www.theguard...ted-el-salvador

[Cause]

The DOJ says the judge who is trying to determine if the goverment defied his ruling is 'beating a dead horse' asking for details to determine if his order was violated and if so how flagrant it was.

Constitutional crisis or some sever contempt of court punishments seems likely soon.