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#14541 User is offline   Lady Bliss 

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Posted 11 November 2024 - 04:52 PM

Musk is a scary fucker. Am I the only one that foresees him being the 2028 republican nominee?
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Posted 11 November 2024 - 05:44 PM

View PostLady Bliss, on 11 November 2024 - 04:52 PM, said:

Musk is a scary fucker. Am I the only one that foresees him being the 2028 republican nominee?

Can he, with him being foreign born? IIRC Schwarzenegger could be governor, but not president, and Musk is I think South African?
Anyway, not sure Musk has the appetite for it. His brand of crazy seems to trend in a different direction (to Mars).
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#14543 User is offline   Lady Bliss 

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Posted 11 November 2024 - 06:17 PM

View PostTapper, on 11 November 2024 - 05:44 PM, said:

View PostLady Bliss, on 11 November 2024 - 04:52 PM, said:

Musk is a scary fucker. Am I the only one that foresees him being the 2028 republican nominee?

Can he, with him being foreign born? IIRC Schwarzenegger could be governor, but not president, and Musk is I think South African?
Anyway, not sure Musk has the appetite for it. His brand of crazy seems to trend in a different direction (to Mars).

And you don’t think the Trump presidency wouldn’t toss that out? We are in the anything is possible era.
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Posted 11 November 2024 - 06:45 PM

It would require a constitutional amendment to change that natural born citizen part. That's unlikely to happen.

What is more likely to happen is that Musk just takes a Karl Rove type role and parachutes in/out when he pleases on various topics. That's worse in a few different ways.
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Posted 11 November 2024 - 07:34 PM

View Postamphibian, on 11 November 2024 - 06:45 PM, said:

It would require a constitutional amendment to change that natural born citizen part. That's unlikely to happen.

What is more likely to happen is that Musk just takes a Karl Rove type role and parachutes in/out when he pleases on various topics. That's worse in a few different ways.


Couldn't the Supreme Court just rule that it's unconstitutional? Maybe hallucinate that it's a logical consequence of some existing amendment?

Though I'd suppose they don't really need to justify their opinions beyond: because our master (with the guns and the bombs and the (flying robot) assassins) says so! ... And shall enforce it.

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Posted 12 November 2024 - 03:33 PM

Presidency, senate and executive. 2025 will be a shit show.

Wonder if they can pass legislation even with all this control or if they will just remove a speaker for fun again.
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Posted 12 November 2024 - 04:46 PM

They seem to be picking a few people from Congress for top jobs, might that not eat into their majority?
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Posted 12 November 2024 - 05:23 PM

 Cyphon, on 12 November 2024 - 04:46 PM, said:

They seem to be picking a few people from Congress for top jobs, might that not eat into their majority?

Shhh don’t let them in on that! I’ve been privately hoping that special elections could rule in our favor.
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Posted 12 November 2024 - 05:35 PM

Surely they wouldn't be stupid enough to pick lots of candidates from swingable constituencies... but who knows these days.
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Posted 12 November 2024 - 07:05 PM

Swingable constituencies won't elect fucktarded enough candidates for them.
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Posted 12 November 2024 - 08:32 PM

Is it normal to tap a house Rep to be in charge of homeland security? J mean is Kristi Noem actually qualified for such a role?

I would have thought law enforcement, military, intelligence would be a typical background?
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Posted 12 November 2024 - 09:39 PM

Bit of a silver lining of sorts: RFK Jr has announced,

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FDA's war on public health is about to end. This includes its aggressive suppression of psychedelics,

The supplement industry might be gleeful about Trump’s win | STAT


Oh wait oh no that's not silver but mercury... and it's an outer lining for the bullets of insanity! (And profit, of course... though oddly enough my psychedelic stocks are tanking. Maybe because The Market fears just about anyone will be allowed to start hawking psychedelics without federal enforcement going after them, so they'll lose their magic mushroom moats?)

On the one hand---psychedelics tend to help chill most people out.

OTOH, they also almost always... well... y'know. "Madness... takes control..."
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Posted 13 November 2024 - 05:45 AM

View PostCause, on 12 November 2024 - 08:32 PM, said:

Is it normal to tap a house Rep to be in charge of homeland security? J mean is Kristi Noem actually qualified for such a role?

I would have thought law enforcement, military, intelligence would be a typical background?

I'm not sure that matters any more.
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Posted 13 November 2024 - 11:53 AM

View PostCause, on 12 November 2024 - 08:32 PM, said:

Is it normal to tap a house Rep to be in charge of homeland security? J mean is Kristi Noem actually qualified for such a role?

I would have thought law enforcement, military, intelligence would be a typical background?


Well, she was a rancher and enjoys pitilessly shooting her own puppies to death, so she seems qualified enough for the Trump administration. Plus she's a woman!

His pick for Secretary of Defense is also being criticized for being unqualified, though he does have some military background---he served in Iraq and rose to the rank of major, which according to Wikipedia "is considered the most junior of the senior officer ranks." (Funny how we invaded Iraq "to make it a democracy, with civil rights" and now the party that was behind that just voted in our own Wannabe-Emperor "Sodamn Insane"... well they've "evolved" their position. Actually they're more reactionary and more backwards than the Arab Socialist Ba'ath party under Saddam Hussein---his regime at least was mostly secular.)

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"From silly diner interviews on Weekend Fox and Friends to Secretary of Defense?" [former co-host Gretchen] Carlson wrote [...] "I never thought I'd say I'm stunned about any pick after the election but nominating Pete Hegseth for this incredibly important role? Yes he's a veteran … and?"

Hegseth[...] was even lobbying the Trump administration for pardons of accused and convicted war criminals[...] Trump would go on to do just that.

[...] critics of the choice included former Bush Pentagon official [... who said,] "one of the main criteria that's being used is: How well do people defend Donald Trump on television?"

Republican former Rep. Adam Kinzinger agreed[...] the "one reason" Hegseth was picked is "because he's on Fox News."

[...] as a member of the National Guard [...] he was removed from securing Joe Biden's inauguration due to concerns about a tattoo of his being linked to right-wing extremists. Though Republicans hold the Senate, it could cause problems at his confirmation hearings.

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Posted 14 November 2024 - 12:24 AM

Did the former host of celebrity apprentice just pick Mat Gaetz as attorney general?

…..isn’t he himself under investigation for sex trafficking
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Posted 14 November 2024 - 12:38 AM

View PostCause, on 14 November 2024 - 12:24 AM, said:

Did the former host of celebrity apprentice just pick Mat Gaetz as attorney general?

…..isn't he himself under investigation for sex trafficking


The investigations will officially end when he becomes Attorney General... much like Trump's federal prosecutions will end when he becomes president (with the state level criminal prosecutions on hold... so long as he's president).

Senate does have to approve and did show some resistance to Trump by picking Thune instead of Scott in their secret ballot---we'll see how long that lasts... will be funny if a majority of Senate Republicans deny voting against the will of Trump while a majority of them keep voting against him...
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Posted 14 November 2024 - 01:09 AM

The President-Elect did indeed tap Gatez who was I believe only now under a congressional ethics probe and even that is now gone cause he has resigned from Congress… Other stuff was squashed awhile ago. I’m not a fan of this pick.

Pete is actually interesting. The left is going crazy over it but hell he is decorated and educated. I would prefer at least a full bird colonel but major is a perfect balance between boots on the ground and pencil pusher. Watch his hearing and then judge.
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Posted 14 November 2024 - 09:56 AM

So convicted felon, suspected rapist appoints suspected sex trafficer and drug abuser currently under investigation for both as basically head of law (in my understanding of the role)
And his voters don't bat a fucking eyelid?

Literally all of his appointments confirm he gives zero fucks about his country


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Posted 14 November 2024 - 10:06 AM

Trump cares about Trump, only Trump, and how much people suck up to Trump. End of.
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Posted 14 November 2024 - 10:29 AM

How the fuck do his voters not notice this or care?
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