[HoosierDaddy]

Abyss, on 17 September 2024 - 02:10 PM, said:

Azath Vitr (D, on 16 September 2024 - 06:25 PM, said:

Mezla PigDog, on 16 September 2024 - 05:53 PM, said:

I think I have misjudged Trump. With the attempts on his life, I would have expected him to find a way to quit somehow. He's thin skinned and only out for himself. Has he got himself in too deep to get out? Or do you get used to threats on your life? Or is he more ideological than we thought?

If he doesn't become president again he'll probably go to prison.
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This.

Also, he thinks he's immortal and destined to triumphantly return to rule America and this time he'll do away w that silly two-term limit thing and then, well, you're familiar w the Emperor from WH40K or maybe The President from TRANSMETROPOLITAN.....

He's staying in the race because of ego and his "legacy" whatever the hell that means to him. I don't think he goes to prison, even if convicted because he's too old and too difficult to protect.

What I REALLY want the convictions to do is absolutely deligitmize him and his grifting buddies and all the bullshit they sold the deplorables on. If they see him get away with it, they think they can too. This way they can investigate all the side deals and selling out of the country they did and take it back.

[Cause]

Tsundoku, on 17 September 2024 - 08:45 AM, said:

Cause, on 17 September 2024 - 12:50 AM, said:

I always ponder when I see how some presidents can just casually ride the subway to work whereas the us president needs round the clock counter snipers and an armored car with built in machine guns to go a block.

1. Because America.
2. Being so big and powerful and having such an effect for so long does tend to make a lot of enemies based on the fact you are America, not so much who you are individually.

Hasn’t every American president been assasinated by an American though?

[Tsundoku]

Cause, on 17 September 2024 - 08:49 PM, said:

Tsundoku, on 17 September 2024 - 08:45 AM, said:

Cause, on 17 September 2024 - 12:50 AM, said:

I always ponder when I see how some presidents can just casually ride the subway to work whereas the us president needs round the clock counter snipers and an armored car with built in machine guns to go a block.

1. Because America.
2. Being so big and powerful and having such an effect for so long does tend to make a lot of enemies based on the fact you are America, not so much who you are individually.

Hasn’t every American president been assasinated by an American though?

See #1.

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

Iran has been reportedly trying to assassinate Trump. Though it's not clear whether that's via US citizens or (gasp!) undocumented migrant assassins.

Of course a large part of it is all the guns, as well as the history of successful presidential assassinations. Have non-Americans---heads of state or otherwise---who have had immense influence on military policy been provided with comparable security details? OTOH obviously few if any have had power comparable to that of post-apocalypse-inducing-nuclear-arsenal US presidents---possibly some Soviet leaders but IDK.

Fun fact: the last US president for whom there are no public records of an assassination attempt was LBJ. Apparently none against Eisenhower either, though IDK how they'd count his service during WWII as Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force... I'd imagine the Nazis were trying to assassinate him. Speaking of Nazis...

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Mark Robinson, whose support from Trump guided him to [North Carolina's] Republican gubernatorial nomination [...] referred to himself as a "black NAZI!" and declared

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himself a "perv," writing of his love for "watching tranny on girl porn! That's f*cking hot!" (Robinson's campaign rhetoric has been sharply transphobic.) He reportedly referred to Martin Luther King Jr. as a "f*cking commie bastard" and said "slavery is not bad," adding that he might like to "buy a few." [...]

Despite some last-minute pressure from Republicans to drop out of the race, though, Robinson stayed in past a key [...] deadline for withdrawing. [...] he threatens to drag Trump down with him [...] The presidential race in North Carolina is one of the closest in the country. If it moves even another point or so in Harris' direction, it meaningfully widens her path to the presidency.

Mark Robinson, Donald Trump, Kamala Harris: The biggest political stories of the week. (slate.com)

I confess I lol'd at

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"he [said he] might like to 'buy a few'"

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But hopefully he didn't... and doesn't have them hidden away anywhere. Apparently Diddy did... (sex slaves, that is).

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"Mein Kampf is a good read," minisoldr [Mark Robinson] wrote. "It's very informative and not at all what I thought it would be. It's a real eye opener."

[...] "I'd take Hitler over any of the sh*t that's in Washington right now," [...]

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the "minisoldr" moniker may be a reference to 1/6 scale toy soldiers that the user linked to Robinson dressed up in Nazi uniforms. Those model soldiers — made by manufacturer Ultimate Soldier — notably do not include Nazi emblems or symbols with their models, meaning the SS insignia displayed on the photos posted by the "minisoldr" account was painted by hand.

[...] a duolingo account with the "minisoldr" username also spent several hours attempting to learn German.

'Mein Kampf is a good read': Account linked to Mark Robinson praised Hitler's manifesto - Alternet.org

Several hours? Such commitment.. or maybe he's a genius. Just like Trump!

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 21 September 2024 - 01:58 PM

[Tsundoku]

Truth via parody.

[Macros]

Caught the first 10 mins of Harris interview on Colbert last night.
Why would anyone want to vote for trumpalump and his fuckwits over that coherent, well spoken, clearly intelligent human being, who actually does seem to want to help her country?

[Macros]

Make sure you're registered, make sure everyone you know is registered, get it done

[Macros]

 Tsundoku, on 27 September 2024 - 06:04 AM, said:

Truth via parody.

How much can the reps break the already broken system with flooding the voting stations with their idiots?

[Lady Bliss]

 Macros, on 09 October 2024 - 07:07 PM, said:

Make sure you're registered, make sure everyone you know is registered, get it done

Mom and I registered Monday then went to a local Irish pub for fish and chips.

This post has been edited by Lady Bliss: 09 October 2024 - 09:13 PM

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

Macros, on 09 October 2024 - 07:07 PM, said:

Make sure you're registered, make sure everyone you know is registered, get it done

I know a bunch of people who would almost certainly vote for Trump.

My strategy is to not tell them that I voted.

Article by a historian in the Guardian today:

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Facing war in the Middle East and Ukraine, the US looks feeble. But is it just an act?

The idea that Biden is just muddling through these global crises isn't convincing. Look closely and his foreign policy has been as radical as Trump's

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[...] By comparison with Trump, the Biden team boast of their commitment to a rules-based order. But when it came to the world economy and the rise of China, Biden has been every bit as aggressive as, perhaps more so than, his predecessor.

Under Biden, Washington has been committed to reversing years of [industrial] decline apparently brought on by excessive favour shown to China. The US has tried to stop China's development in tech. To do so, it has strong-armed allies [...] When the World Trade Organization dared to protest against US steel tariffs, the White House reaction was contemptuous.

Bidenomics is Maga for thinking people.

The US is paying for more than 25% of Israel's rampage [...] It has pulled allies such as Germany and the UK into line. [...]

[...] While insisting that it supports the rules-based order, what we are witnessing is something closer to a revival of the ruinous neoconservative ambition of the 1990s and 2000s.

Facing war in the Middle East and Ukraine, the US looks feeble. But is it just an act? | Adam Tooze | The Guardian

For "thinking people" who think saving humankind from catastrophic climate change---and advancing technological progress---is less important than US economic and technological dominance. This South China Morning Post headline put it well:

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China, US locked in lose-lose tech battle whoever wins White House, experts say

The rivalry to dominate in AI, quantum computing and other technologies of the future may even intensify after November's election.

China, US locked in lose-lose tech battle whoever wins White House, experts say | South China Morning Post (scmp.com)

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 10 October 2024 - 11:42 AM

[Tsundoku]

When someone tells you who they are, believe them.

Donald Trump doubles down on idea to use the military against US citizens who disagree with him

https://www.news.com...070e0d91d63da16

[Briar King]

Bringing one of my offspring to her 1st Presidential vote tomorrow.

[HoosierDaddy]

Good for her. Make sure the machine doesn't switch her vote! Just kidding.

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

HoosierDaddy, on 21 October 2024 - 05:04 PM, said:

Good for her. Make sure the machine doesn't switch her vote! Just kidding.

And you don't get eaten by immigrants along the way... to the point where you can't vote in time. "Their feet and hands were gnawed away, but they dragged themselves along by their elbows to serve their Country its long-awaited salvation Armageddon..."

[Briar King]

Done. Never actually thought I’d have a sitting Speaker of the House on my ballot but with newly drawn lines it happened.

[HoosierDaddy]

I am becoming more and more convinced Trump is going to win. I think the inflation of prices caused sticker shock (and that will never come back down) that happened during the lockdowns and pandemic are ultimately going to doom Harris.

Funny that by voting for Trump people are ultimately voting for the corporations that raised those prices just because they could. But when has rational decision making ever been a hallmark of our populace.

I vote early this Saturday so I can get my ballot in and then I'm turning it off.

Caveat emptor.

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

HoosierDaddy, on 22 October 2024 - 11:20 PM, said:

I am becoming more and more convinced Trump is going to win. I think the inflation of prices caused sticker shock (and that will never come back down) that happened during the lockdowns and pandemic are ultimately going to doom Harris.

Funny that by voting for Trump people are ultimately voting for the corporations that raised those prices just because they could. But when has rational decision making ever been a hallmark of our populace.

I vote early this Saturday so I can get my ballot in and then I'm turning it off.

Caveat emptor.

... and Trump's tariffs would result in big, beautifull-y ironic... inflation.

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Trump is falsely blaming Harris for high prices. His plans will cause huge inflation

Trump is falsely blaming Harris for high prices. His plans will cause huge inflation | Steven Greenhouse | The Guardian

... but don't take the Guardian's word for it, mainstream economists are agreed on this....

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 23 October 2024 - 01:38 AM

[Cause]

Literally 2 weeks away from the election and John Kelly goes on record saying Trump is a fascisct, ‘would rule like a dictator’. We know so many of his former staff don’t like him but somehow the specifics go unsaid and they have chosen to be silent or inactive

I don’t know how this election can be so close. I suspect the media makes it to so for ratings to an extent. I don’t understand how the information we need is in theory so easily accessible and yet not available.

[HoosierDaddy]

Cause, on 23 October 2024 - 12:20 PM, said:

Literally 2 weeks away from the election and John Kelly goes on record saying Trump is a fascisct, 'would rule like a dictator'. We know so many of his former staff don't like him but somehow the specifics go unsaid and they have chosen to be silent or inactive

I don't know how this election can be so close. I suspect the media makes it to so for ratings to an extent. I don't understand how the information we need is in theory so easily accessible and yet not available.

The election is this close because 2 items matter more than most (other than abortion, which is what is keeping it close): Economy & Immigration.

1. People view Trump as having a better economy. People can remember 4 years ago when something cost a lot less.
2. Immigration: Everybody knows Trump is racist. They know he'll try to keep people out. That's all they care about.

Most people are not informed, rational decision makers weighing nuances in policies and how they make a difference in their lives. They rely on gut and memory. Republicans are better at informing GUT decision making.

That's how.

[amphibian]

It especially stinks when the truth is that the economy has been much, much better under Biden for many.

The grocery store chains gouging consumers has been brutal.

The slowdown of fresh housing over the last 20-30 years is wrecking budgets and abilities to live well.

I also think the devaluing of the childcare systems over the same 30 years has contributed mightily to less people being able to afford or even find childcare.