[Okaros]

 Atrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

 Sheltatha Lore, on 26 January 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

 Atrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

I know my leader, Sorritt, it's the only other player I know.

OK, I have to admit I read that a few times to realize what you meant

last I checked I wasn't Khell.

That's just what he would say. And he would believe it.

[Omtose]

Looking back it throws GL's comments about there being similar roles between the clans and his musing on the idea of what open alliance meant into a more interesting light.

Karatlaiid's comment just before the lynch about voting so PS would be able to see and could call a lynch if there was a double vote then and there is amusing, though if it was a leader ability and he was a leader it would be a silly comment to make considering he was on both trains and it could be easily pointed to.

Sorrit did seem to be trying to deflect attention away from Liosan in his spat with GL and he didn't really answer his accusation on that point very satisfactorily and instead threw back similar accusations, his tone in general is a little off putting in the whole exchange, though i'd say it feels more like symping behaviour which fits in with what GL accused about a link between him and Liosan. It would confirm the thought that Liosan is jumpy and willing to vote here and there because he know either who is on his team or has a power role.

Looking over a possible Atrahal/GL link now, wasn't something that had jumped out at me in any way before, it is interesting that Atrahal said he has no need of making waves since his leader is not in the spotlight, could be a way of distancing from this or maybe there is a leader that isn't being much scrutinised. He has, during day 2, doubted the likelihood of TS as a Uesugi as a a good lynch target, so there could be a possible connection there.

[Karatallid]

Why would GL put himself out there so much trying to get Liosan killed if he was a leader who could be night killed? Think about it, he must have knew he was drawing attention to himself being ballsy the way he was, Fener accused him of being too smart or something along those lines, meaning he was a threat. I think GL was targeted by a NK due to the fact that he was giving so Lio so much heat and one of Lio's general's took out GL, just a theory. Looking at the other death "merrid" it looks as though Eloth's second in command targeted Merrid as well as one of the Muira/Muiri? We can also look at whoever else was putting pressure on Lio following GL's lead. I'm unsure on who i'd go for right now though because I don't know who is on my team. I'm looking for clues just as the rest of us. I would probably go for a TS/Lio lynch based on them being linked to Eloth and accused by GL. However, I would also abstain from a lynch to prove I wasn't the double voter but that would only work if a double voter got on the train or stayed away and it wouldn't prove a thing. That being said for now I am going to

Vote Tulas Shorn

The reason I have picked him is because he has a link to Eloth AND has quieted down a lot since the day one shennanigans.

[Atrahal]

 Omtose, on 26 January 2012 - 07:45 PM, said:

Looking back it throws GL's comments about there being similar roles between the clans and his musing on the idea of what open alliance meant into a more interesting light.

Karatlaiid's comment just before the lynch about voting so PS would be able to see and could call a lynch if there was a double vote then and there is amusing, though if it was a leader ability and he was a leader it would be a silly comment to make considering he was on both trains and it could be easily pointed to.

Sorrit did seem to be trying to deflect attention away from Liosan in his spat with GL and he didn't really answer his accusation on that point very satisfactorily and instead threw back similar accusations, his tone in general is a little off putting in the whole exchange, though i'd say it feels more like symping behaviour which fits in with what GL accused about a link between him and Liosan. It would confirm the thought that Liosan is jumpy and willing to vote here and there because he know either who is on his team or has a power role.

Looking over a possible Atrahal/GL link now, wasn't something that had jumped out at me in any way before, it is interesting that Atrahal said he has no need of making waves since his leader is not in the spotlight, could be a way of distancing from this or maybe there is a leader that isn't being much scrutinised. He has, during day 2, doubted the likelihood of TS as a Uesugi as a a good lynch target, so there could be a possible connection there.

great theory,but the Uesugi leader's gone.

off to class. back in a few hours.

[Omtose]

 Atrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

 Omtose, on 26 January 2012 - 07:45 PM, said:

Looking back it throws GL's comments about there being similar roles between the clans and his musing on the idea of what open alliance meant into a more interesting light.

Karatlaiid's comment just before the lynch about voting so PS would be able to see and could call a lynch if there was a double vote then and there is amusing, though if it was a leader ability and he was a leader it would be a silly comment to make considering he was on both trains and it could be easily pointed to.

Sorrit did seem to be trying to deflect attention away from Liosan in his spat with GL and he didn't really answer his accusation on that point very satisfactorily and instead threw back similar accusations, his tone in general is a little off putting in the whole exchange, though i'd say it feels more like symping behaviour which fits in with what GL accused about a link between him and Liosan. It would confirm the thought that Liosan is jumpy and willing to vote here and there because he know either who is on his team or has a power role.

Looking over a possible Atrahal/GL link now, wasn't something that had jumped out at me in any way before, it is interesting that Atrahal said he has no need of making waves since his leader is not in the spotlight, could be a way of distancing from this or maybe there is a leader that isn't being much scrutinised. He has, during day 2, doubted the likelihood of TS as a Uesugi as a a good lynch target, so there could be a possible connection there.

great theory,but the Uesugi leader's gone.

off to class. back in a few hours.

Yeah I realise this, I'm not sure if i'm misunderstanding you here. My point in the last paragraph was that when TS came under fire as a possible Uesugi target you were one of the people to dismiss him, there was a connection between you and GL pointed out and I hadn't seen that, i'd picked up on a possible connection with TS though. I thought there may be a possibility that he is being shielded, or has been shielded to some extent. Olar Ethil too defended him early day 2 and was the one to suggest Silanah as a more likely target and Fener also thought he was unlikely to be Uesugi. Just he seems to have had some support from a few people and in conjunction with you saying you knew your leader and he wasn't under much scrutiny it seemed there could be a link there.

I assume that wasn't you saying you have no leader since you were Uesugi yourself .

[Fener]

 Karatallid, on 26 January 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

Well I don't have a double voting ability so that narrows the suspects somewhat

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

You know, the plain brazen straightforward naive innocence which this post exudes almost makes me believe it without any reservation

[Omtose]

 Silanah, on 25 January 2012 - 10:14 PM, said:

 Liosan, on 25 January 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

I felt galayn lord seemed to know too much and thought multiple others believed the same so i voted and hoped others would follow. As a non uesugi, and judging by silanah's outburst that he is...
Remove vote
Vote silanah

It is difficult to tell here, but who are you labeling a "non-Uesugi"? If you are labeling yourself, that's definitely not a good way to deflect attention. If you are labeling galayn lord or I, it would be extremely unfounded.

This caught my eye while I was reading through the thread, between this and all the talk that GL did about open alliance and what that could possibly mean this strikes me as a strange comment that has been made. Silanah seems to imply that he knows for sure that GL is not linked to the Uesugi. Couple this with GL being one of the first to say that it looked like there were five clans and it is interesting, especially considering his clan is in a different alliance as far as we know.

[Omtose]

 Karatallid, on 26 January 2012 - 07:30 AM, said:

Vote Silanah

I am on my way to work so don't have time to catch up, this was were my vote was going today anyway. PS if you're still around AND there is a double voter then this could be the lynch. I thought i'd do it before you disappear

 Fener, on 26 January 2012 - 09:27 PM, said:

 Karatallid, on 26 January 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

Well I don't have a double voting ability so that narrows the suspects somewhat

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

You know, the plain brazen straightforward naive innocence which this post exudes almost makes me believe it without any reservation

Between these two comments it really seems to suggest an endearing level of naive innocence, I hope it is, either way it is damn amusing.

[Fener]

 Atrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

I don't make waves? no, shit, why would I? I know my leader, Sorritt, it's the only other player I know.

I can't be the only one who did a double-take at this post, can I? One thing I always had to tell my students when handing back essays in the past - pay more attention to sentence structure.

Sentence structure is important, kids. One of my friends, who teaches colonial American history, had a similar but more refined saying: "Pay more attention to sentence structure, or you'll end up convincing your examiner you're a racist."

[Olar Ethil]

ok, catching up. i wont be around much for the next few hours, but i wanted to see what happened with night.

[Olar Ethil]

 Omtose, on 26 January 2012 - 09:35 PM, said:

 Silanah, on 25 January 2012 - 10:14 PM, said:

 Liosan, on 25 January 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

I felt galayn lord seemed to know too much and thought multiple others believed the same so i voted and hoped others would follow. As a non uesugi, and judging by silanah's outburst that he is...
Remove vote
Vote silanah

It is difficult to tell here, but who are you labeling a "non-Uesugi"? If you are labeling yourself, that's definitely not a good way to deflect attention. If you are labeling galayn lord or I, it would be extremely unfounded.

This caught my eye while I was reading through the thread, between this and all the talk that GL did about open alliance and what that could possibly mean this strikes me as a strange comment that has been made. Silanah seems to imply that he knows for sure that GL is not linked to the Uesugi. Couple this with GL being one of the first to say that it looked like there were five clans and it is interesting, especially considering his clan is in a different alliance as far as we know.

nice catch! definitely something to think on.

[Fener]

 Omtose, on 26 January 2012 - 09:35 PM, said:

 Silanah, on 25 January 2012 - 10:14 PM, said:

 Liosan, on 25 January 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

I felt galayn lord seemed to know too much and thought multiple others believed the same so i voted and hoped others would follow. As a non uesugi, and judging by silanah's outburst that he is...
Remove vote
Vote silanah

It is difficult to tell here, but who are you labeling a "non-Uesugi"? If you are labeling yourself, that's definitely not a good way to deflect attention. If you are labeling galayn lord or I, it would be extremely unfounded.

This caught my eye while I was reading through the thread, between this and all the talk that GL did about open alliance and what that could possibly mean this strikes me as a strange comment that has been made. Silanah seems to imply that he knows for sure that GL is not linked to the Uesugi. Couple this with GL being one of the first to say that it looked like there were five clans and it is interesting, especially considering his clan is in a different alliance as far as we know.

That is interesting - nice catch.

[Fener]

Snap - again.

[Olar Ethil]

 Fener, on 26 January 2012 - 09:27 PM, said:

 Karatallid, on 26 January 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

Well I don't have a double voting ability so that narrows the suspects somewhat

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

You know, the plain brazen straightforward naive innocence which this post exudes almost makes me believe it without any reservation

^^this. yes. i love when people post things about themselves that you are expected to take at face value

[Liosan]

Im back everyone!

[Atrahal]

 Fener, on 26 January 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

 Atrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

I don't make waves? no, shit, why would I? I know my leader, Sorritt, it's the only other player I know.

I can't be the only one who did a double-take at this post, can I? One thing I always had to tell my students when handing back essays in the past - pay more attention to sentence structure.

Sentence structure is important, kids. One of my friends, who teaches colonial American history, had a similar but more refined saying: "Pay more attention to sentence structure, or you'll end up convincing your examiner you're a racist."

so, I suppose, I shoulda put a colon there, mr. grammar man?

[Liosan]

 Atrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

 Fener, on 26 January 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

 Atrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

I don't make waves? no, shit, why would I? I know my leader, Sorritt, it's the only other player I know.

I can't be the only one who did a double-take at this post, can I? One thing I always had to tell my students when handing back essays in the past - pay more attention to sentence structure.

Sentence structure is important, kids. One of my friends, who teaches colonial American history, had a similar but more refined saying: "Pay more attention to sentence structure, or you'll end up convincing your examiner you're a racist."

so, I suppose, I shoulda put a colon there, mr. grammar man?

Atrahal, gettin feisty?

[Atrahal]

 Karatallid, on 26 January 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

Why would GL put himself out there so much trying to get Liosan killed if he was a leader who could be night killed? Think about it, he must have knew he was drawing attention to himself being ballsy the way he was, Fener accused him of being too smart or something along those lines, meaning he was a threat. I think GL was targeted by a NK due to the fact that he was giving so Lio so much heat and one of Lio's general's took out GL, just a theory. Looking at the other death "merrid" it looks as though Eloth's second in command targeted Merrid as well as one of the Muira/Muiri? We can also look at whoever else was putting pressure on Lio following GL's lead. I'm unsure on who i'd go for right now though because I don't know who is on my team. I'm looking for clues just as the rest of us. I would probably go for a TS/Lio lynch based on them being linked to Eloth and accused by GL. However, I would also abstain from a lynch to prove I wasn't the double voter but that would only work if a double voter got on the train or stayed away and it wouldn't prove a thing. That being said for now I am going to

Vote Tulas Shorn

The reason I have picked him is because he has a link to Eloth AND has quieted down a lot since the day one shennanigans.

ok, so your post is about how GL probably got NKd for stirring shit up against Liosan. so, you conclude, Liosan may be a leader.
then, you do a 360, and vote for TS< whom you suspect to be of the Uesugi faction--the same faction that lost its leader.

whereas, Liosan, another potential leader (with a potential double-vote. And no, I don't know that for sure, but i'm presuming leaders get double votes as i've stated elsewhere), who is probably a greater threat, is cheerfully ignored?

huh

vote Liosan


because if that's not deflecting, i don't know what is.

[Atrahal]

 Liosan, on 26 January 2012 - 09:52 PM, said:

 Atrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

 Fener, on 26 January 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

 Atrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

I don't make waves? no, shit, why would I? I know my leader, Sorritt, it's the only other player I know.

I can't be the only one who did a double-take at this post, can I? One thing I always had to tell my students when handing back essays in the past - pay more attention to sentence structure.

Sentence structure is important, kids. One of my friends, who teaches colonial American history, had a similar but more refined saying: "Pay more attention to sentence structure, or you'll end up convincing your examiner you're a racist."

so, I suppose, I shoulda put a colon there, mr. grammar man?

Atrahal, gettin feisty?

a bit. I have a small positng window, and then more stuff to do,and then work.

and in this particular case, English is my third language, so I'm genuinely curious what exactly I wrote wrong.
Other than supposedly outing my supposed leader, Sorrit, if you skim the thread, and pay no attention to commas.

[Fener]

 Atrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

 Fener, on 26 January 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

 Atrahal, on 26 January 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

I don't make waves? no, shit, why would I? I know my leader, Sorritt, it's the only other player I know.

I can't be the only one who did a double-take at this post, can I? One thing I always had to tell my students when handing back essays in the past - pay more attention to sentence structure.

Sentence structure is important, kids. One of my friends, who teaches colonial American history, had a similar but more refined saying: "Pay more attention to sentence structure, or you'll end up convincing your examiner you're a racist."

so, I suppose, I shoulda put a colon there, mr. grammar man?

I would suggest: "Sorrit, I know who my leader is - it is the only other player that I do know. They are not receiving any heat, so there is nothing to tempt me to stick my neck out and make any waves at the moment."

Thanks for asking

Looking back over it, the use of both 'sticking one's neck out' and 'making waves' may be redundant, so feel free to pick just one