[Silanah]

 Tiamatha, on 24 January 2012 - 07:12 AM, said:

this translation business was some fucking bullshit. i'd have all of you fired if i'd hired you to play mafia. no fucking way, there should be a rule about posting text in one language only. idioms, and such. i'm falling off a neo-conservative cliff here, someone help

atrahal and ts are on the list. ts is just buggy with the fucking japanese and atrahal's comments are scummy. so far he's dismisssed all non-english characters as day 1 rp and then in the next few posts, then dismisses codes, then threatens to vote TS for continuing, then speculates on roles/factions.

and to top it all off, they are VOTING FOR EACH OTHER.

god damn. i noticed a couple other things but we need to wait before bringing them up.

i don't know that Ican be fucked to rerad that rant. god. plenty of time left but i see the two people with the highest post counts stirring shit up on thread and voting for each other. if this wasn't a faction game i'd say scum for sure but it seems like heavy deflection right now or some sort of signaling.

Did my research and found this. edit: It dates from quite early in GH's lynch train.

this pretty much was my reasoning behind the post that you all call an "outburst".

I am NOT trying to bring tiam front and center, I am trying to tell all that (numerous) others shared the same feelings about the situation. I just chose this one for the sake of convenience.
That leaves me posting after the lynch happened as the fact that makes this stand out, and that it was only my fifth post. Both are explained my the time zones. I sure hope nobody says that I am using time zones as an excuse, because that is obvious.

I believe I've covered both bases, correct? My "signaling" and the post of doom.

This post has been edited by Silanah: 25 January 2012 - 10:48 PM

[Silanah]

 Fener, on 25 January 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

First off, pursuing the connections to Eloth seems like the best idea to me for today. It's the most concrete course of action I reckon.

But I do want to just to add a bit more meat on to why I put GL's name out there. Basically, it's the way in which he brought up the idea of other, off-thread, alliances being possible which struck me as reading like someone who already knew this was the case but was trying to put it across like a question. So in the post below GL does everything but say what he's thinking - instead he does that .... question mark tactic of leading others to the idea. Karatallid then obligingly does just that, saying openly what GL was suggesting, before GL confirms it. The manner in which he put this across here just seems so careful, like someone dying to say something but somewhat afraid of the consequences.

 Galayn Lord, on 25 January 2012 - 11:51 AM, said:

 Karatallid, on 25 January 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

 Galayn Lord, on 25 January 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:

I guess this was what Shin means by clues. It was also a kill of a guy from one alliance by a clan in the other.
What is puzzling me: it is called Open Alliance instead of just Alliance... that suggests there may be a different type?

So open allainces announced in thread but there could be hidden alliances told off thread?

I have no proof whatsoever and I don't want to scaremonger, it is just that "Open" is redundant if that is the only type of alliance, isn't it?

I know the above could very well be paranoia reading too much into it. However, the thing that struck me the strangest was that when he brought up the possibility of off-thread alliances, he didn't point to PS' post:

 Path-Shaper, on 25 January 2012 - 05:04 AM, said:

The war that had ignited first with the burning of forts along the contested lands between the Uesugi, Takeda and Miura was also waged in quiet rooms, far from any battlefield. The possibility of enemies becoming allies, or even vassals, kept many a spy and messenger in daily rice. There were some, however, who chose to honor their Allies even unto death.

Does the bolded part not suggest what GL hinted at more strongly than an interpretation of what 'Open Alliance' could mean? As several have already pointed out, they did not jump to the same conclusion as GL. But then, why did GL not use this as part of his argument? My instinctive answer is to say because he had already come up with a way of putting out there the suggestion of off-thread alliances using the 'Open Alliance' terminology. Meaning he had thought about how to do it. Meaning there is intent (other than innocent contribution) behind it.


Having said all that, GL has already, in my mind, responded very well to Liosan's vote on him. Despite the somewhat OMGUS vote back on Liosan, I think his points have merit - Liosan jumped on this as soon as I mentioned it (and has now just as eagerly jumped off) without elucidating on his thinking process, as I just have above. It struck me that, with his jumping on GL and subsequently Silanah, Liosan looks very eager to start a train on anyone other than himself.

So this post might have started off about GL, but right now Liosan looks mighty like someone who is sweating profusely.

^Agreed.

Also, in regard to the clans and alliances...the way some people are talking, it sounds like they know, or have strong reason to know, who is in what alliance...I am wondering how they come by these conclusions, these conclusions are often the specific reason they jump onto the train.

Thoughts?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 14 Hours and 16 minutes Left.

18 Players still alive: Atrahal, Fener, Galayn Lord, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Merrid, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Shadow, Silanah, Sorrit, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

10 Votes to Lynch. 9 to go to night.

1 Vote Tulas Shorn: Sheltatha Lore
3 Votes Silanah: Atrahal, Korvalain, Liosan
1 Vote Liosan: Galayn Lord

Players not voting: Fener, Karatallid, Kessobahn, Korlat, Merrid, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Shadow, Silanah, Sorrit, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

[Olar Ethil]

 Silanah, on 25 January 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

 Tiamatha, on 24 January 2012 - 07:12 AM, said:

this translation business was some fucking bullshit. i'd have all of you fired if i'd hired you to play mafia. no fucking way, there should be a rule about posting text in one language only. idioms, and such. i'm falling off a neo-conservative cliff here, someone help

atrahal and ts are on the list. ts is just buggy with the fucking japanese and atrahal's comments are scummy. so far he's dismisssed all non-english characters as day 1 rp and then in the next few posts, then dismisses codes, then threatens to vote TS for continuing, then speculates on roles/factions.

and to top it all off, they are VOTING FOR EACH OTHER.

god damn. i noticed a couple other things but we need to wait before bringing them up.

i don't know that Ican be fucked to rerad that rant. god. plenty of time left but i see the two people with the highest post counts stirring shit up on thread and voting for each other. if this wasn't a faction game i'd say scum for sure but it seems like heavy deflection right now or some sort of signaling.

Did my research and found this. edit: It dates from quite early in GH's lynch train.

this pretty much was my reasoning behind the post that you all call an "outburst".

I am NOT trying to bring tiam front and center, I am trying to tell all that (numerous) others shared the same feelings about the situation. I just chose this one for the sake of convenience.
That leaves me posting after the lynch happened as the fact that makes this stand out, and that it was only my fifth post. Both are explained my the time zones. I sure hope nobody says that I am using time zones as an excuse, because that is obvious.

I believe I've covered both bases, correct? My "signaling" and the post of doom.

Silanah, my main issue with you is that you posted a few 'nothing' posts early on in the game, and then had a spaz after the lynch. you are getting heat for it now because the feeling is that any lynch that is not of your team members is a good lynch, and because you were angry about the lynch you must be on a team with Eloth.
the differece between your post and Tiams is that Tiam threw out some viable alternatives. you just spazzed.

[Omtose]

 Olar Ethil, on 25 January 2012 - 11:06 PM, said:

 Silanah, on 25 January 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

 Tiamatha, on 24 January 2012 - 07:12 AM, said:

this translation business was some fucking bullshit. i'd have all of you fired if i'd hired you to play mafia. no fucking way, there should be a rule about posting text in one language only. idioms, and such. i'm falling off a neo-conservative cliff here, someone help

atrahal and ts are on the list. ts is just buggy with the fucking japanese and atrahal's comments are scummy. so far he's dismisssed all non-english characters as day 1 rp and then in the next few posts, then dismisses codes, then threatens to vote TS for continuing, then speculates on roles/factions.

and to top it all off, they are VOTING FOR EACH OTHER.

god damn. i noticed a couple other things but we need to wait before bringing them up.

i don't know that Ican be fucked to rerad that rant. god. plenty of time left but i see the two people with the highest post counts stirring shit up on thread and voting for each other. if this wasn't a faction game i'd say scum for sure but it seems like heavy deflection right now or some sort of signaling.

Did my research and found this. edit: It dates from quite early in GH's lynch train.

this pretty much was my reasoning behind the post that you all call an "outburst".

I am NOT trying to bring tiam front and center, I am trying to tell all that (numerous) others shared the same feelings about the situation. I just chose this one for the sake of convenience.
That leaves me posting after the lynch happened as the fact that makes this stand out, and that it was only my fifth post. Both are explained my the time zones. I sure hope nobody says that I am using time zones as an excuse, because that is obvious.

I believe I've covered both bases, correct? My "signaling" and the post of doom.

Silanah, my main issue with you is that you posted a few 'nothing' posts early on in the game, and then had a spaz after the lynch. you are getting heat for it now because the feeling is that any lynch that is not of your team members is a good lynch, and because you were angry about the lynch you must be on a team with Eloth.
the differece between your post and Tiams is that Tiam threw out some viable alternatives. you just spazzed.

Not only did Tiam throw out viable alternatives he also posted this pages before and well before we had the result. After the result the only people that are going to be angry are those who have been disadvantaged by the lynch, so either Uesugi or the team allied with them at the time (who are also now a player down).

Day 1 is never perfect case wise but for a lot of players that was a result for their team and people have been lynched on day 1 for flimsier reasons, having a certain alt for example. Plus again it was less to do with the RP and more to do with the reaction to the questions and accusations.


Edit: spelling and grammar, must avoid posting on phone in future, added 'at the time' to allied with.

This post has been edited by Omtose: 25 January 2012 - 11:26 PM

[Galayn Lord]

 Fener, on 25 January 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

First off, pursuing the connections to Eloth seems like the best idea to me for today. It's the most concrete course of action I reckon.

But I do want to just to add a bit more meat on to why I put GL's name out there. Basically, it's the way in which he brought up the idea of other, off-thread, alliances being possible which struck me as reading like someone who already knew this was the case but was trying to put it across like a question. So in the post below GL does everything but say what he's thinking - instead he does that .... question mark tactic of leading others to the idea. Karatallid then obligingly does just that, saying openly what GL was suggesting, before GL confirms it. The manner in which he put this across here just seems so careful, like someone dying to say something but somewhat afraid of the consequences.

I know the above could very well be paranoia reading too much into it. However, the thing that struck me the strangest was that when he brought up the possibility of off-thread alliances, he didn't point to PS' post:

 Path-Shaper, on 25 January 2012 - 05:04 AM, said:

The war that had ignited first with the burning of forts along the contested lands between the Uesugi, Takeda and Miura was also waged in quiet rooms, far from any battlefield. The possibility of enemies becoming allies, or even vassals, kept many a spy and messenger in daily rice. There were some, however, who chose to honor their Allies even unto death.

Does the bolded part not suggest what GL hinted at more strongly than an interpretation of what 'Open Alliance' could mean? As several have already pointed out, they did not jump to the same conclusion as GL. But then, why did GL not use this as part of his argument? My instinctive answer is to say because he had already come up with a way of putting out there the suggestion of off-thread alliances using the 'Open Alliance' terminology. Meaning he had thought about how to do it. Meaning there is intent (other than innocent contribution) behind it.


Having said all that, GL has already, in my mind, responded very well to Liosan's vote on him. Despite the somewhat OMGUS vote back on Liosan, I think his points have merit - Liosan jumped on this as soon as I mentioned it (and has now just as eagerly jumped off) without elucidating on his thinking process, as I just have above. It struck me that, with his jumping on GL and subsequently Silanah, Liosan looks very eager to start a train on anyone other than himself.

So this post might have started off about GL, but right now Liosan looks mighty like someone who is sweating profusely.

Frankly, you give me too much credit in the underlined because I hadn't considered P-S's post as such, although I did notice the absence of Ashikaga and Fujiwara there (and the emergence of the Miura), which made me wonder what this was about. My own thought was that it might be more of a geographical illustration than anything else. The far from any battlefield in my mind was about the Shogunate, which resides in Kyoto and it therefore makes sense to leave them out of burning fortresses along a border, since they're nowhere near there. I hadn't attached it to off-thread alliances, which is remarkably naive now that you point it out, as it would have saved me some hassle.



As for the way I put it on thread, well, I once again agree with you. There is a method to the madness there:

I decided a question would result in more people thinking along than a hypothesis, which is usually just gunned down and quite often, the messenger along with it. So I went for something more careful and tried to sound out if people had had the same thought process as I have had - also because as I say, it is a theory. Nowhere near fact. In fact, it is based on one (1) word: Open (and yeah, I have had this thought since reading the OP the first time, but this is not something to put on thread day 1, is it? Hence why I waited a bit and that may have given the impression you mention of "dying to mention it". I much prefer "living to mention some other brain waves I may get", by the by. )

Better to see if I'm not overthinking stuff in the minds of others, right? I'm OK with putting thoughts on thread, but I'm not going to be suicidal, doesn't help my team in the slightest.

It didn't go exactly as I hoped, but I still think the result is likely more positive than a "hey guys, shin mentions open alliances, I think there are hidden alliances too!" would have done. And it has the side effect of snaring Liosan, too.


So if anything, my "crime" is seeing something (an adjective: open) very early day 1, thinking on it, then waiting to see if someone else forwards the same observation, and when it doesn't, mention it myself in a way that I judge to be not 100% suicidal. It isn't knowledge or a role PM. As I said earlier, info is power and correct information is to be hoarded. Theories and thoughts however, well, that's a different thing.

[Galayn Lord]

BTW, Liosan's post (#529) in which he votes for Silanah really strikes me as a blatant attempt to get on a train, any train, and so be seen as a good Culture hunting person. There is some despair there that either screams 'power-roled' or 'in a team with a man down', or perhaps both.

As such, I am going to leave my vote on him. Bed time now, see you in the morning.

edited to clarify 'roled' by adding power- in front of it.

This post has been edited by Galayn Lord: 25 January 2012 - 11:33 PM

[Kessobahn]

I have just a minute, it's been ugly and I'm not done yet here.

The faction hunt is underway, several people are ready to claim that they're not in the weakened Uesugi faction by seeking to lynch those who can be tied to its confirmed member. Not sure if any are trying to get some distance, though, or throw distractions. I will look for that.

My thoughts on the lynch scenario: I think there may be 2 double voters, a triple vote seems out of balance, but I will allow there could be other things at work we haven't guessed at yet. I don't think another clan has become active, I thought it was common opinion that the factions were equal size & 4 in number. Was that number assumed from the list of Alliances? possible (I did assume that) Can anyone comment on this? I know the OP says equal size, so quantity only. It will affect everyone if there is a faction we're not looking for, though I suppose CF will eventually show us the right of it.

With Uesugi & Ashikagi both down, the balance of power had already shifted. Someone mentioned that the Alliance broke down because the weakened factions could be moving to the stronger for support. Whoever that was may know something that isn't general knowledge, although I can't find a post to quote now. I assumed the Alliance broke because either a Askigaki was on the train or a Uesugi killed Osseric in the night.

I think Open Alliance simply means it is public knowledge on thread for us to see.

[Liosan]

My thinking process from my vote on GL to vote on silanah
1. GL seems to know a lot, but in mafia you hoard info. But then again, thats what we expect, so maybe, hes giving correct info out as a "guess" to get us talking. Then it backfired and got Fener and korlat on a trail towards him. I agree with them, so maybe we can get him lynched, getting us info via CF and lynch scene.
2. Crap, that vote backfired on me, and there seems to be no possibility for a lynch on GL, but silanah, who had a few posts with no content then an explosive reaction to the lynch, may be in trouble. Maybe, like GH, the signaller is the leader, but he didnt expect someone to reply in a way so obvious to everyone as a signal. (mind you, it was nothing of the kind) Maybe Ill vote for him instead.

[Galayn Lord]

 Liosan, on 25 January 2012 - 11:35 PM, said:

My thinking process from my vote on GL to vote on silanah
1. GL seems to know a lot, but in mafia you hoard info. But then again, thats what we expect, so maybe, hes giving correct info out as a "guess" to get us talking. Then it backfired and got Fener and korlat on a trail towards him. I agree with them, so maybe we can get him lynched, getting us info via CF and lynch scene.
2. Crap, that vote backfired on me, and there seems to be no possibility for a lynch on GL, but silanah, who had a few posts with no content then an explosive reaction to the lynch, may be in trouble. Maybe, like GH, the signaller is the leader, but he didnt expect someone to reply in a way so obvious to everyone as a signal. (mind you, it was nothing of the kind) Maybe Ill vote for him instead.

Fun times that I was still around checking other parts of the forum.

So, Lio, on no account did you think that either myself or Silanah can be on your team, seeing how eagerly you are vote-hopping around? Well, well, well, well, well... Interesting.
It is also great to see how soon you're scrambling away from anything looking like negative attention to your person. This post really does nothing to improve your position, you know.

And with that, I really am out.

[Omtose]

 Kessobahn, on 25 January 2012 - 11:34 PM, said:

I have just a minute, it's been ugly and I'm not done yet here.

The faction hunt is underway, several people are ready to claim that they're not in the weakened Uesugi faction by seeking to lynch those who can be tied to its confirmed member. Not sure if any are trying to get some distance, though, or throw distractions. I will look for that.

My thoughts on the lynch scenario: I think there may be 2 double voters, a triple vote seems out of balance, but I will allow there could be other things at work we haven't guessed at yet. I don't think another clan has become active, I thought it was common opinion that the factions were equal size & 4 in number. Was that number assumed from the list of Alliances? possible (I did assume that) Can anyone comment on this? I know the OP says equal size, so quantity only. It will affect everyone if there is a faction we're not looking for, though I suppose CF will eventually show us the right of it.

With Uesugi & Ashikagi both down, the balance of power had already shifted. Someone mentioned that the Alliance broke down because the weakened factions could be moving to the stronger for support. Whoever that was may know something that isn't general knowledge, although I can't find a post to quote now. I assumed the Alliance broke because either a Askigaki was on the train or a Uesugi killed Osseric in the night.

I think Open Alliance simply means it is public knowledge on thread for us to see.

It is a sensible move for clans outside of the Uesugi and Ashakagi as the numbers are there to do so and it strengthens their advantage and position but yes I suppose this could be the perfect cover for diverting attention, though after re-reading i'm not seeing anything personally.


I agree that a triple vote seems very unfair and would give whoever had it a great advantage unless it is restricted in some manner, two double votes seem much more likely though and it would suggest there might be a parallels amongst the teams, teams are evenly numbered so it would make sense if it was an ability that certain roles had.

I assumed four clans as well but there has been speculation of a fifth going on PS's post, which he said there would be clues in. I'm not so sure over it really, it could be something meant to throw us off or added for extra detail but it was mentioned in amongst the active clans in the game so there is the possibility there is a fifth clan which would make some sense alliance wise as well as it makes them more liable to change.

[Liosan]

I never said this was to improve my position. Actually, I only wrote that post to answer the questions people had about my thought process. I agree with them that I was not elaborating, and so I posted that to explain why I did what i did.

[Korlat]

 Omtose, on 25 January 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

 Kessobahn, on 25 January 2012 - 11:34 PM, said:

I have just a minute, it's been ugly and I'm not done yet here.

The faction hunt is underway, several people are ready to claim that they're not in the weakened Uesugi faction by seeking to lynch those who can be tied to its confirmed member. Not sure if any are trying to get some distance, though, or throw distractions. I will look for that.

My thoughts on the lynch scenario: I think there may be 2 double voters, a triple vote seems out of balance, but I will allow there could be other things at work we haven't guessed at yet. I don't think another clan has become active, I thought it was common opinion that the factions were equal size & 4 in number. Was that number assumed from the list of Alliances? possible (I did assume that) Can anyone comment on this? I know the OP says equal size, so quantity only. It will affect everyone if there is a faction we're not looking for, though I suppose CF will eventually show us the right of it.

With Uesugi & Ashikagi both down, the balance of power had already shifted. Someone mentioned that the Alliance broke down because the weakened factions could be moving to the stronger for support. Whoever that was may know something that isn't general knowledge, although I can't find a post to quote now. I assumed the Alliance broke because either a Askigaki was on the train or a Uesugi killed Osseric in the night.

I think Open Alliance simply means it is public knowledge on thread for us to see.

It is a sensible move for clans outside of the Uesugi and Ashakagi as the numbers are there to do so and it strengthens their advantage and position but yes I suppose this could be the perfect cover for diverting attention, though after re-reading i'm not seeing anything personally.


I agree that a triple vote seems very unfair and would give whoever had it a great advantage unless it is restricted in some manner, two double votes seem much more likely though and it would suggest there might be a parallels amongst the teams, teams are evenly numbered so it would make sense if it was an ability that certain roles had.

I assumed four clans as well but there has been speculation of a fifth going on PS's post, which he said there would be clues in. I'm not so sure over it really, it could be something meant to throw us off or added for extra detail but it was mentioned in amongst the active clans in the game so there is the possibility there is a fifth clan which would make some sense alliance wise as well as it makes them more liable to change.

Wait, why are we talking about teams being evenly numbered?

[Fener]

Ok, as I may not be around close to deadline, I'm going to vote now.

Tulas' RP speeches could be cleverly disguised attempts to stave off an Eloth lynch (we haven't heard from Tulas yet have we?); Silanah's reaction to the lynch is decidedly strange for a non town vs. scum game (and the explanation doesn't really convince me); Galayn Lord may still know far more than he's letting on but man is he answering questions well at the moment; and Liosan has now as much as admitted that he 1) voted GL because he thought he could be an easy target to lynch, and 2) changed to Silanah because he was afraid he (Liosan) might be lynched. As someone's already pointed out, is Liosan not afraid of hitting one his own team if his sole reasoning is, 'easy lynch'?

The thought that has just struck me is that either 1) Liosan knows some of his faction, or 2) Liosan is one of our less experienced players, hence the itchy trigger-finger.

Hmmmm. Very tricky. I wish I had more time but I just don't know if I'll be able to get on again yet due to work.

Vote Liosan

Because, on top of everything outlined above, early on I spotted what I thought was an attempt to defend/divert attention from Eloth during day 1 by Liosan. It is in one of my earlier posts, and Shadow also pointed it out in his "3 Uesagi suspects" post.

[Fener]

 Korlat, on 26 January 2012 - 01:03 AM, said:

 Omtose, on 25 January 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

 Kessobahn, on 25 January 2012 - 11:34 PM, said:

I have just a minute, it's been ugly and I'm not done yet here.

The faction hunt is underway, several people are ready to claim that they're not in the weakened Uesugi faction by seeking to lynch those who can be tied to its confirmed member. Not sure if any are trying to get some distance, though, or throw distractions. I will look for that.

My thoughts on the lynch scenario: I think there may be 2 double voters, a triple vote seems out of balance, but I will allow there could be other things at work we haven't guessed at yet. I don't think another clan has become active, I thought it was common opinion that the factions were equal size & 4 in number. Was that number assumed from the list of Alliances? possible (I did assume that) Can anyone comment on this? I know the OP says equal size, so quantity only. It will affect everyone if there is a faction we're not looking for, though I suppose CF will eventually show us the right of it.

With Uesugi & Ashikagi both down, the balance of power had already shifted. Someone mentioned that the Alliance broke down because the weakened factions could be moving to the stronger for support. Whoever that was may know something that isn't general knowledge, although I can't find a post to quote now. I assumed the Alliance broke because either a Askigaki was on the train or a Uesugi killed Osseric in the night.

I think Open Alliance simply means it is public knowledge on thread for us to see.

It is a sensible move for clans outside of the Uesugi and Ashakagi as the numbers are there to do so and it strengthens their advantage and position but yes I suppose this could be the perfect cover for diverting attention, though after re-reading i'm not seeing anything personally.


I agree that a triple vote seems very unfair and would give whoever had it a great advantage unless it is restricted in some manner, two double votes seem much more likely though and it would suggest there might be a parallels amongst the teams, teams are evenly numbered so it would make sense if it was an ability that certain roles had.

I assumed four clans as well but there has been speculation of a fifth going on PS's post, which he said there would be clues in. I'm not so sure over it really, it could be something meant to throw us off or added for extra detail but it was mentioned in amongst the active clans in the game so there is the possibility there is a fifth clan which would make some sense alliance wise as well as it makes them more liable to change.

Wait, why are we talking about teams being evenly numbered?

Because Shin said they would be.

[Omtose]

 Shinrei, on 21 January 2012 - 08:06 AM, said:

...

General Thread Announcement in regards to Game Mechanics
This is a faction game with players divided onto teams. Teams will be referred to as “clans”. All clans start evenly in terms of numbers. All players will have a unique name, and will also be provided with the name of their clan.
There is a system of wounding in place for this game. Some actions present can kill and/or wound. A player wounded 3 times is dead.

All actions performed are subject to appearing in scenes in some manner. There is a system of “Open Alliance” in effect between clans, and those alliances as they happen will be announced on the game thread for all to see.

I am not following D’rek’s RO3K fashion of giving people roles held previously. I don’t want alt-guessing to be a factor in games, which is why I am doing this. There are some roles present from Chapter 1, but they are being rewarded to players by “luck of the draw”.

Brief Explanation of Names
The Shogun rules Japan. He is of House Ashikaga. Ashikaga Masamoto, in the scene above, is the current kamakura kubo and was one of the main roles in Chapter 1. Kamakura kubo means he is the Shogun’s minister in charge of the area in which this Chapter takes place.

That is why, so if there were four teams, four teams of five and if there were five teams, five teams of four.

[Fener]

 Shinrei, on 21 January 2012 - 08:06 AM, said:

General Thread Announcement in regards to Game Mechanics
This is a faction game with players divided onto teams. Teams will be referred to as “clans”. All clans start evenly in terms of numbers. All players will have a unique name, and will also be provided with the name of their clan.

[Liosan]

Wait, also, what is this system of wounding he mentioned? Nothing has been mentioned since the beginning post?

[Fener]

Snap.

[Kessobahn]

It's finally time for me to go home

I will mention these things I noticed in the last few pages.

Shelly is after TS, whether to hurt suspected Uesugi, or just on earlier suspicion I'm not sure. - association w/ Eloth
I think I saw GL defending Sil, and now he's voting Lio
Kara was fishing for some role speculations I believe, maybe to catch someone knowing too much?
Fener was thinking GL knew too much himself, but now Lio looks suspect
Shadow is pointing at TS, Sil, & Lio as Uesugi - created the list
Merrid is interested in clans &names (aren;t we all)
Korv thinks Silanah is Uesugi, but not Lio, TS or Shadow


Boy, it's a bad time to stand too close to anybody with too many U's in their name.
I'm not going to make it back before end of day, so I'm going to leave a vote now.

Vote Silanah

I don't think she's on my team at this point. I am having a rough time figuring some people out, maybe tomorrow will work out better for me to play and have some inspirations.