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Eastern Wolves : Chapter 2 of Sengoku Jidai Series Warring States Mafia

#1001 User is offline   Fener 

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 05:30 PM

Don't all speak at once.

As I said before, I think at least one of Shadow and Tulas is pretending when it comes to which side of the alliance they're actually on. Shelly may perhaps be most obviously alliance (though I'm not even entirely sure about that even), but I do agree with them that it still comes down to voting out anyone who you believe is not in your faction. Which brings me back to Tulas, though part of me prefers another target just to shake things up - as it seems to me we're still just following Shadow's list.

I could get behind the lynches of Tiam and Korlat, though like with a Kara lynch, I'm not sure how many other leads that would leave us with, unfortunately.

I'll be back to vote in a while.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 05:36 PM

I'm here. Catching up. Should have time to post today.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 05:57 PM

View PostFener, on 31 January 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:

Don't all speak at once.

As I said before, I think at least one of Shadow and Tulas is pretending when it comes to which side of the alliance they're actually on. Shelly may perhaps be most obviously alliance (though I'm not even entirely sure about that even), but I do agree with them that it still comes down to voting out anyone who you believe is not in your faction. Which brings me back to Tulas, though part of me prefers another target just to shake things up - as it seems to me we're still just following Shadow's list.

I could get behind the lynches of Tiam and Korlat, though like with a Kara lynch, I'm not sure how many other leads that would leave us with, unfortunately.

I'll be back to vote in a while.


Of the two of us I suspect that Shadow is alliance. :)

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:02 PM

I had skimmed up till now.. but it seems that everyone is holding their cards pretty close to the vest. If my count is correct its 3U vs. 2A vs. 3F vs. 2T vs. 1M. Fener had mentioned a possible alliance mechanic that, i believe, said alliance mates can't kill each other. In a Mafia context, I believe this makes a lot of sense. In which case, the Fuji and Ashi can't kill each other. At this point in the game, I'm not sure if that is a benefit or hinderance to those teams. As they probably have no idea who is on the others teams... it could result in a wasted NA. As it stands, I think this is anyone, but M's game. They have no leader, and only have 1 2nd.

Quick Side note- Kara says he is just a minion... but he knew Okaros, who was a leader, That makes him the M. Second in command. I have been going along this game assuming that the 2nd's have the killing powers, and as such know their leaders. So before we go giving Kara a free pass... know, that he likely has killing powers and as he is in nobodys alliance, it might behoove us to take him out. I am not necessarly advocating a Karatallid lynch... but I am so unsure who is on my team, I am heasitant to vote.

On Tiam and Korlat- I think it's likely that either both are high command (1st or second), or that 1 is high command and one is RI. This would account for low lying play on both accounts. It's my suspicion that one of those 2 is a Fuji or Ashikage leader. My personal hunch is that Korlat is the more likely of the 2 to be leader, he has seemed to pay a little more attention to the game.

On Shelatha- He has openly stated that he has knowledge of the person ahead of him. With 4 of the5 2nd's still around, this makes me believe he is the 2nd of one of the teams. Whose... not sure.

TS- most of you seem to have a better read on him than me. I am honestly not sure whose team he is on.

Kesso- no idea

Fener- not sure, though the way he has really picked up suggests a leader of some sort.

Shadow states he is RI... with the way he has played, and the attention and effort he has put into the game... I find it hard to believe he is simple RI. Good acting job though because he really has me unsure.

Omtose- Been a low but content filled poster. Tough to get a read on position, let alone team, though because he is the one who came up with the Korean connection suggestd he isn't Ue.

Olar E- no idea. he has really stopped posting much since day 2.


Conclusion- I am not sure how this makes me look, pro or anti alliance, I really don't care. I am more partial to a Karatallid vote. it would remove a wild-cannon killer from the game ( which he has no chance to win), and would leave the teams going into night at: 3v2v3v2. I am content to let the big-wigs settle this with NA's

I WILL be around till lynch. I guess if it came too it I would lynch Tulas. But I would be rolling the dice as I have no idea what team he is on.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:14 PM

I think a Kara lynch would be pretty pointless really. While it's the safest in terms of no one lynching their own, I just can't see how Kara will survive night anyway for that very same reason.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:15 PM

And I've picked up? I've been one of the highest posters all game.... :/

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:25 PM

I felt you lulled around day 2-3 ( I don't count RP/spam posts) the last 2 days it seems, my perception, that you have really gotten down to brass tacks.

I am curious as to why you see Shelly as "Alliance" in my notes I have him as "probably Uesugi 2nd" not sure what spurred me to write that as I made no quote # notation. This is why I am more comfortable with a Kara lynch. My team make-ups, i think, are way off. Granted, I haven't been able to give the game my full attention for a few days, so I am a bit out of the loop.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:27 PM

View PostFener, on 31 January 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

And I've picked up? I've been one of the highest posters all game.... :/


Imagine how I feel. He has no read on me. But everyone else seems to think that I am not on their team. I am on a team people and some of you are on my team.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:29 PM

View PostKorvalain, on 31 January 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

I felt you lulled around day 2-3 ( I don't count RP/spam posts) the last 2 days it seems, my perception, that you have really gotten down to brass tacks.

I am curious as to why you see Shelly as "Alliance" in my notes I have him as "probably Uesugi 2nd" not sure what spurred me to write that as I made no quote # notation. This is why I am more comfortable with a Kara lynch. My team make-ups, i think, are way off. Granted, I haven't been able to give the game my full attention for a few days, so I am a bit out of the loop.


Erm, mostly because other people said so [embarrassed face]. I've had Shelly floating between Miura, Uesugi, and Fuji-Ashi (who I've come dangerously to think of as one entity). Actually, until Kara revealed as last Miura, I was pretty set on Shelly being the last Miura. Why do you have them as "probably Uesugi 2nd"?

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:30 PM

View PostTulas Shorn, on 31 January 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 31 January 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

And I've picked up? I've been one of the highest posters all game.... :/


Imagine how I feel. He has no read on me. But everyone else seems to think that I am not on their team. I am on a team people and some of you are on my team.



"I'm not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me, Superman!" :)

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:30 PM

View PostKorvalain, on 31 January 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

I felt you lulled around day 2-3 ( I don't count RP/spam posts) the last 2 days it seems, my perception, that you have really gotten down to brass tacks.

I am curious as to why you see Shelly as "Alliance" in my notes I have him as "probably Uesugi 2nd" not sure what spurred me to write that as I made no quote # notation. This is why I am more comfortable with a Kara lynch. My team make-ups, i think, are way off. Granted, I haven't been able to give the game my full attention for a few days, so I am a bit out of the loop.


I think that because Fener and Shadow think that I am U then shelly must not be because he keeps wanting to lynch me. :)

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:32 PM

View PostFener, on 31 January 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

View PostTulas Shorn, on 31 January 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 31 January 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

And I've picked up? I've been one of the highest posters all game.... :/


Imagine how I feel. He has no read on me. But everyone else seems to think that I am not on their team. I am on a team people and some of you are on my team.


"I'm not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me, Superman!" :)


:)

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:36 PM

Tulas! I think I've found your teammates! There's two people who have never attacked you:

Korlat and Tiamatha.


:)

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:49 PM

View PostFener, on 31 January 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

Tulas! I think I've found your teammates! There's two people who have never attacked you:

Korlat and Tiamatha.


:)


Please lord in heaven let them not be mine. :)

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:53 PM

View PostTulas Shorn, on 31 January 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 31 January 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

Tulas! I think I've found your teammates! There's two people who have never attacked you:

Korlat and Tiamatha.


:)


Please lord in heaven let them not be mine. :)


Aha! So you admit you have two teammates! So you must be either Uesugi or Fujiwari!

Fener - desperately reaching.

Fener - overusing the Fener - thing.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:55 PM

View PostFener, on 31 January 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

View PostTulas Shorn, on 31 January 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 31 January 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

Tulas! I think I've found your teammates! There's two people who have never attacked you:

Korlat and Tiamatha.


:)


Please lord in heaven let them not be mine. :)


Aha! So you admit you have two teammates! So you must be either Uesugi or Fujiwari!

Fener - desperately reaching.

Fener - overusing the Fener - thing.


Well I had 4 team mates. I have lost several. I suspect that there is a recruiting ability . So really I trust and know no one on my team.

But I like friends.

Fener would you be my friend. :p

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:56 PM

I'm around for a little while, should be able to vote later


I'd love to be able the garner some truth out of the last 2 pages, I'm sure most of its there...

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:58 PM

View PostTulas Shorn, on 31 January 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 31 January 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

View PostTulas Shorn, on 31 January 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 31 January 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

Tulas! I think I've found your teammates! There's two people who have never attacked you:

Korlat and Tiamatha.


:)


Please lord in heaven let them not be mine. :)


Aha! So you admit you have two teammates! So you must be either Uesugi or Fujiwari!

Fener - desperately reaching.

Fener - overusing the Fener - thing.


Well I had 4 team mates. I have lost several. I suspect that there is a recruiting ability . So really I trust and know no one on my team.

But I like friends.

Fener would you be my friend. :p


Of course I'll be your friend! I've enjoyed your company here very much! But sometimes even friends have to be set aside for the greater good, just so you know.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 07:00 PM

View PostKessobahn, on 31 January 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:

I'm around for a little while, should be able to vote later


I'd love to be able the garner some truth out of the last 2 pages, I'm sure most of its there...


If you do do please share the truth.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 07:00 PM

Wait, what do you mean you had FOUR teammates? That would make yours a five-member team....

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