[Fener]

Tulas Shorn, on 31 January 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:

Fener, on 31 January 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 31 January 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 31 January 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 31 January 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

Fener, on 31 January 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

Wait, what do you mean you had FOUR teammates? That would make yours a five-member team....

No I had 4 to start with. I think. Nobody has really stepped forward to say that they were ever on my team. Shit for all I know Shin made me a team of 1 just to mess with me. le sigh

plus friend stop being obtuse.

No-one from your team died until now?

Yes.. My god your brilliant. Some how I have managed to be on the only team in the entire game that hasn't lost a player. A team that is so powerful that we have not appeared in any scenes. That is my team.

Please connect your brain to you hands before you type. Thanks

If you're lynched, I really will miss you

As well you should. Take a look at what you will have left to talk to.

It isn't to late to take out someone in the alliance.

To be serious for a moment, the way I see it, one of either you or Shadow is definitely in the alliance. Lynching one will let us know where the other stands - and unfortunately for you Shadow hasn't garnered any votes so far. I do not think lynching non-alliance will be the disaster that you prophecy - there will be no big reveal-fest tomorrow because there are just too many unknowns left in this game, *especially* if others suspect that there might also be a recruitment ability within this game such as you yourself suggested.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Tulas Shorn, on 31 January 2012 - 07:14 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 31 January 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 31 January 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 31 January 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 31 January 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

Fener, on 31 January 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

Wait, what do you mean you had FOUR teammates? That would make yours a five-member team....

No I had 4 to start with. I think. Nobody has really stepped forward to say that they were ever on my team. Shit for all I know Shin made me a team of 1 just to mess with me. le sigh

plus friend stop being obtuse.

No-one from your team died until now?

Yes.. My god your brilliant. Some how I have managed to be on the only team in the entire game that hasn't lost a player. A team that is so powerful that we have not appeared in any scenes. That is my team.

Please connect your brain to you hands before you type. Thanks

My question is related to the comment you made that I underline. If you saw someone from your team die, then you should know your not ze special, and wouldn't go around posting emo things like this.

If there was sarcasm in the original post, I missed it.

Did you read any of the above posts between me and Fener. I am starting to think that mentally you are moving into the same territory that I put liosan in. That isn't a good place to be. Right above monkeys but below pigs. So you can type but don't have a very good memory.

And you're moving into Eloth territory with your spamming/insulting comments now that you're getting a few votes.

[Fener]

Sheltatha Lore, on 31 January 2012 - 07:17 PM, said:

This is a slightly modified version of Shadow's great post a few pages back, that I bring back because I'm fed up of looking for it, and also to add Karatallid. I need it to think.


Alliance:

Fujiwari
UNKNOWN LEADER - ALIVE
Lida Gen (UNKNOWN) - ALIVE
UNKNOWN RETAINER - ALIVE
Iwakiri Yoshitora (Merrid/D'rek) - retainer. DEAD

How does Shadow know that the general is called Lida Gen by the way? Were they in one of the scenes?

[Sheltatha Lore]

Fener, on 31 January 2012 - 07:19 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 31 January 2012 - 07:17 PM, said:

This is a slightly modified version of Shadow's great post a few pages back, that I bring back because I'm fed up of looking for it, and also to add Karatallid. I need it to think.


Alliance:

Fujiwari
UNKNOWN LEADER - ALIVE
Lida Gen (UNKNOWN) - ALIVE
UNKNOWN RETAINER - ALIVE
Iwakiri Yoshitora (Merrid/D'rek) - retainer. DEAD

How does Shadow know that the general is called Lida Gen by the way? Were they in one of the scenes?

Good question. I know he was quite motivated with a Wiki of sorts.



From my post I see two teams with 3 players left: Fujiwari and Uesugi. Both lost one player: Eloth and Merrid, respectively.

Those were the two players which were under heat on day 1 for the korean, and were gathering a few votes. That's when Tulas went all defensive even though none of it applied to him. He's then, for me, in either of these two teams.

[Fener]

Sheltatha Lore, on 31 January 2012 - 07:22 PM, said:

Fener, on 31 January 2012 - 07:19 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 31 January 2012 - 07:17 PM, said:

This is a slightly modified version of Shadow's great post a few pages back, that I bring back because I'm fed up of looking for it, and also to add Karatallid. I need it to think.


Alliance:

Fujiwari
UNKNOWN LEADER - ALIVE
Lida Gen (UNKNOWN) - ALIVE
UNKNOWN RETAINER - ALIVE
Iwakiri Yoshitora (Merrid/D'rek) - retainer. DEAD

How does Shadow know that the general is called Lida Gen by the way? Were they in one of the scenes?

Good question. I know he was quite motivated with a Wiki of sorts.



From my post I see two teams with 3 players left: Fujiwari and Uesugi. Both lost one player: Eloth and Merrid, respectively.

Those were the two players which were under heat on day 1 for the korean, and were gathering a few votes. That's when Tulas went all defensive even though none of it applied to him. He's then, for me, in either of these two teams.

Just checked and yep, Iida Gen is mentioned in relation to Sorrit's death as a Fujiwari general.

[Korvalain]

Tulas Shorn, on 31 January 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 31 January 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

Alright it's time.

Looks like Kara isn't going to happen.

vote Tulas Shorn

Korvalain; Unsuccessfully rolling the dice in Mafia since 2006.

EDIT: Corrected my vote.

Why are you against a shelly vote. Are you a member of the alliance. There is still 12 hours or so left in the day. Are you in some kind of rush? Is shelly your team mate? Thank you for coming on and contributing to some of the discussions from the last page or so. Is there a reason you don't want to talk about the alliances. Why are you in a rush to lynch. Is it because you can see victory because you have a leader left alive, or are a leader.

I am actually wanting to make the teams as even as possible going into night tonight. That should give my team the best chance of winning. If I were to guess, I would put you as U or F 2nd. Back when Merrid and Eloth were under fire you came on with some huge RP posts and tried to steer the conversation. Eloth and Merrid were U and F respectively. Thats why I am voting you. Either way, it's a win and either way a team with 3 gets brought down to 2.

EDIT: Double posted the Tulas Quote

This post has been edited by Korvalain: 31 January 2012 - 07:33 PM

[Korvalain]

i'm out for a bit. Back before lynch for sure.

[Shadow]

I'm finally home, ready to start my reread, and I read this:

Korvalain, on 31 January 2012 - 07:32 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 31 January 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 31 January 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

Alright it's time.

Looks like Kara isn't going to happen.

vote Tulas Shorn

Korvalain; Unsuccessfully rolling the dice in Mafia since 2006.

EDIT: Corrected my vote.

Why are you against a shelly vote. Are you a member of the alliance. There is still 12 hours or so left in the day. Are you in some kind of rush? Is shelly your team mate? Thank you for coming on and contributing to some of the discussions from the last page or so. Is there a reason you don't want to talk about the alliances. Why are you in a rush to lynch. Is it because you can see victory because you have a leader left alive, or are a leader.

I am actually wanting to make the 1.teams as even as possible going into night tonight. That should give my team the best chance of winning. If I were to guess, 2.I would put you as U or F 2nd. Back when Merrid and Eloth were under fire you came on with some huge RP posts and tried to steer the conversation. Eloth and Merrid were U and F respectively. Thats why I am voting you. Either way, it's a win and either way a team with 3 gets brought down to 2.

EDIT: Double posted the Tulas Quote

Holy goldmine.

1. The only teams with a chance of winning at night are Uesugi, Ashikaga, and Fujiwari. You can't be Miura, and Takeda most likely do not have a kill. All of the first 3 factions I mentioned have generals that are alive.

2. You place the person you are voting for as Uesugi or Fujiwari. That leaves the Ashikaga as your faction.

Vote Korvalain

Time to go reread.

[Shadow]

I hate to point out an Ashikaga, but someone else would have done it anyway. Way too easy.

Can anyone argue with that?

[Sheltatha Lore]

Shadow, on 31 January 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

I hate to point out an Ashikaga, but someone else would have done it anyway. Way too easy.

Can anyone argue with that?

Just not sure what you meant by "Takeda most likely do not have a kill" and why that eliminates him from the Takeda

[Fener]

Shadow, on 31 January 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

I hate to point out an Ashikaga, but someone else would have done it anyway. Way too easy.

Can anyone argue with that?

I'd noticed it, but thought it meant he could be either Ashi or Takeda, as both would have most to gain from an evening of the numbers. I know Takeda have no major roles left (in theory anyway) but it doesn't mean they're out of it so long as they continue to get non-Takeda lynched.

You know Shadow, I just can't place you. I was thinking you were Ashikaga after your comments that Tulas might be Fujiwari.

[Fener]

And why do you "hate to point out an Ashikaga"?

[Omtose]

Maybe he thinks he shouldn't if he is in alliance with them.

Back and catching up.

[Shadow]

He is not Takeda because I'm 90% certain they have no kill. Killers are theorized to be the generals, yeah? So why would he think he could win going into night, then? He voted TS based on him being "U or F" so that leaves Ashikaga.

[Omtose]

TS you seem determined to call anyone who wants to vote you alliance, I get that we shouldn't rush while we still have some time left to see what information we can acquire or if anything from further back clicks with us but some people will think you yourself are alliance and want to vote for you on that basis. For the majority of the game I had you down as a possible Uesugi or Ashikagawa, mainly based on day one, about a day or so back I was unsure about this and have been changing my mind since, i still don't feel comfortable trusting you or your proposed strategies and think you are possibly not on my team though again I can't be certain.

I can see why Korv could possibly want the teams to be even and I now suspect he is A or T, if he is T and doesn't have much of a power role it still makes sense why he would want to push to give his team a better chance of winning though it could be a bold move by a member of the A.

Shadows 'hat to think' comment regarding the A does make me think that he could possibly be an F after all, i'd had more of a leaning towards him being non-alliance but the wording has definitely made me stop and think.

[Korvalain]

Back from lunch, here off and on.

[Korvalain]

Shadow, on 31 January 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

He is not Takeda because I'm 90% certain they have no kill. Killers are theorized to be the generals, yeah? So why would he think he could win going into night, then? He voted TS based on him being "U or F" so that leaves Ashikaga.

How then, would you suggest a Takeda go about winning? (not saying I am or am not) . IMO the best bet is to let the big dogs kill each other at night ( because who are they worried about, other killers? or a RI? )hopefully bringing the numbers to around even, hope a takeda don't get hit in the cross fire, and go into day 2 with a team of 2 people that can have as much sway as another team, during the voting period. Why is this hard to see? Regardless, I still think Tulas is the best lynch. He brings one of the teams of 3 down to 2. and we go into tomorrow 3v 2v 2v 2v 1. (though that numbering is off because there will likely be a NK or 2 tonight).

For argument, say I am Ashikage( not saying I am or am not)... how is lynching me helping team Takeda? It doesn't, it just gives more power to the people that already have it. The Fuji's and the Uesugi with their superior numbers to vote ppl off tomorrow.

How does it help team Fuji? It doesn't, they want to keep their alliance strong.

How does it help team M. It doesn't really matter to them, they are doomed, so kara really doesn't care who gets lynched as long as its not him.

How does it help team Ashikage? Obviously, it doesn't.


The only team that is helped by a Ashikage lynch is team Uesugi.


I respect your vigor, but the basis for your theory is wrong. So why don't you put your double vote where it will do the most good, on TS. Your behavior is very odd shadow... The way you are acting makes me think you are Uesugi... but everything posted up to today led me to believe thats the LAST team you'd be on.

[Korvalain]

Alright, I have a 1 hr Meeting I will be back in an hr, which should be 30 min before lynch if my timing is correct.

[Kessobahn]

Ok, checking back - I only have about 45 minutes before I have to go to the doctor for a physical (yay!)
I will vote before I go

[Shadow]

An Ashikaga lynch (as I'm sure you are) helps the Uesugi, because it breaks up the alliance and brings the playing field much more even between the 3 big powers.

The Fujiwari are both helped and hindered. I'm sure they would like to continue the alliance as long as possible, but they would benefit in the long run as well from the Ashikaga losing a member.

The Takeda and Miura benefit because the alliance will be weaker. If you happen to be a leader, it will be broken and the NKs will increase between the 3 power players.

And I don't have a double vote. That would allow me far too much fun.

I see no point in lynching Miura or Takeda today. Barely a point in lynching Uesugi. I'd much rather lynch Ashikaga or Fujiwari today. You outed yourself as an Ashikaga, and even better, people seem hesitant to vote for you. You might be important.

Vote Korvalain

Hardy har double vote.