[QuickTidal]

Ripley is not brought back to earth though. She's found in-system...but there is no way of telling where she floated in her stasis. So CF is right, the entirety of the prelude scenes to her landing on LV426 in ALIENS happens aboard a deep space station (owned by Weland-Yutani).

All that said, I believe there was a technical manual back in the day that referenced negative time dilation FTL travel in the Alien universe. So I think it's safe to assume that FTL travel exists. Above and beyond that one would assume that at the very least for Weyland-Yutani to be successful even in their mining division (ALIEN), it would make zero sense to travel below FTL speed to get to planets...the ROI for that would be low. So yeah, I'd say safe to assume...but that we may not know how they achieve it...

...but then again PROMETHEUS might (gods willing) be 2 1/2 hours long and tell us that at some point.

Whatever happens I am looking forward to no movie like I am this one. Seriously, the original ALIEN is in my top five films of all time. Ridley Scott is king.

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[A Demon Llama!]

May 20, 2032 - Weyland scientists discover the inverse relationship between velocity and the flow of time making the long sought-after concept of faster than light travel a reality. The search for practical application begins.

January 17, 2034 - Weyland Industries introduces the first FTL-capable SEV (space exploration vehicle).

Source: Weyland Industries

For a bunch of alien nerds im suprised you guys didnt check out the Weyland Industries website (I even posted a link here)

[QuickTidal]

A Demon Llama!, on 13 April 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:

May 20, 2032 - Weyland scientists discover the inverse relationship between velocity and the flow of time making the long sought-after concept of faster than light travel a reality. The search for practical application begins.

January 17, 2034 - Weyland Industries introduces the first FTL-capable SEV (space exploration vehicle).

Source: Weyland Industries

For a bunch of alien nerds im suprised you guys didnt check out the Weyland Industries website (I even posted a link here)

The site was mostly updated (from the original Xenopedia) when the AvP movies were coming out...therefore I don't truly trust anything they say...(since the AvP movies are an abomination that never happened)

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[Deck of Dragons]

I've been following this film for the last several years. The other day Ridley said the name of the planet and it was LV-1?? not 426. So it is not the same planet as the first movie which is surprising because that derelict ship looks exactly the same and you see it crash in the trailers.

Also, in one of the full trailers released a few weeks ago there is a mural of the Xenomorph. I heard that is the only thing Giger designed for this movie. (They literally had him make the mural).

It clearly it is a prequel. But the actual Xenomorph will likely not be in the movie at all. But it seems that its precursor will be.

[QuickTidal]

So here is the actual official spec sheet for the Prometheus which backs up the SEV subtitle...

and I guess we assume the VTOL Engines are its FTL drives, yes?

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Deck of Dragons, on 13 April 2012 - 05:56 PM, said:

I've been following this film for the last several years. The other day Ridley said the name of the planet and it was LV-1?? not 426. So it is not the same planet as the first movie which is surprising because that derelict ship looks exactly the same and you see it crash in the trailers.

A. The planetoid in ALIEN and ALIENS is the same one...though it isn't referred to as LV-426 directly in the first film (it is in the novel IIRC)...it is mentioned in ALIENS that it is the same planetoid.

B. The ship that eventually becomes the derelict ship (the circular one) in ALIEN (and ALIENS Directors Cut) is shown in the PROMETHEUS trailers taking off...it is also shown crashing (thus causing it to be derelict)...the assumption is that the planet they initially go to in PROMETHEUS isn't LV-426, but a subsidiary planetoid in the same system...which Scott has named LV-1. It is the same ship, but the events in PROMETHEUS look to be the reason it crashes on LV-426 to then be found in ALIEN by the Nostromo. This is further evidenced in the trailers by the huge rooms with the monolithic faces in PROMETHEUS...since if it was the same planetoid, then the crew of the Nostromo would have found that...and didn't.

Lastly, in ALIEN the crew is responding to a distress signal (given out presumably by the derelict craft), which further seems to indicate a crash...when the Prometheus finds her initially she is right side up and in fine enough shape to have that hologram map room in it (a shape she is no longer in during the events of ALIEN)



Also, Giger designed much more than one mural. Not sure where you got that info. He designed basically everything that looks remotely like his work in the film, up to and including the giant monolithic head. He's been on the film since the get-go which was why it became so hard for Ridley to keep its relation to ALIEN under wraps.

Lastly, DoD...(not trying to sound like a dick here), please read the whole thread first...we've already discussed the relation to the ALIEN series and the notion of how much of a prequel it is and which way. sorry, you just seem to be presenting it like it;'s info we don't have. No offense, but that's how it appeared.

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[dktorode]

I bet you 100 bucks this movie ends with an alien egg opening....

[QuickTidal]

Deck of Dragons, on 13 April 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 13 April 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

Lastly, DoD...(not trying to sound like a dick here), please read the whole thread first...we've already discussed the relation to the ALIEN series and the notion of how much of a prequel it is and which way. sorry, you just seem to be presenting it like it;'s info we don't have. No offense, but that's how it appeared.

I read the thread. No where did you mention the Giger mural that is in the trailer.

You just responed and made it sound like the ship in the trailer will crash on LV-426. I said that Ridley stated the planet is not in the film period. Why would it crash on LV1?? and then later crash on LV426? It probably does not and thus that ship is just the same class of ship.

But yea, you did come off like a dick. lol

No we didn't discuss Giger's involvement...I said we discussed how the film will tie to the ALIEN universe and how much of a prequel it is (pay attention).

Your "same class of ship" analogy doesn't hold water. The whole point of PROMETHEUS is that Ridley said he always wanted to know about the Space Jockey (a scene that is kind of glossed over) in ALIEN, thus the ring ship/derelict ship MUST be the one that is found on LV-426...The only way your analogy works is if there is more than one space jockey...which doesn't computer in my head since it removes this ring ship from the ALIEN films for no real reason.

Lastly, you also assume that LV-1 isn't LV-426 which could actually be the case...as Weyland-Yutani hides pretty much everything they do under bureaucratic red tape like that.

Oh, and Ridley is nothing if not notorious for telling you one thing and have it be another. He's one of the most secretive directors working today...if that means he'd lie about what is what...he will. He likes to preserve surprise in his films.

Oh, does anyone else want the computer system aboard the Prometheus to be named Father?

[Deck of Dragons]

QuickTidal, on 13 April 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

B. The ship that eventually becomes the derelict ship (the circular one) in ALIEN (and ALIENS Directors Cut) is shown in the PROMETHEUS trailers taking off...it is also shown crashing (thus causing it to be derelict)...the assumption is that the planet they initially go to in PROMETHEUS isn't LV-426, but a subsidiary planetoid in the same system...which Scott has named LV-1. It is the same ship, but the events in PROMETHEUS look to be the reason it crashes on LV-426 to then be found in ALIEN by the Nostromo. This is further evidenced in the trailers by the huge rooms with the monolithic faces in PROMETHEUS...since if it was the same planetoid, then the crew of the Nostromo would have found that...and didn't.

How is it going to be the same ship? You think it is going to crash twice? Ridley said LV426 is not in the film. So how is the same craft going to end up there after crashing?

I think it is just the same class of ship. Not the same ship that ends up on LV-426. I guess they could rename the planet later maybe? Companies do that kind of stuff all the time! I was dissapointed knowing that planet was not the same one.

But yea, I'm sure that computer will be called Father.

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dktorode, on 13 April 2012 - 06:22 PM, said:

I bet you 100 bucks this movie ends with an alien egg opening....

I wager it will be more obscure than that like perhaps the camera panning through the derelict ring ship and passing by (but not stopping at) the room John Hurt stumbled into with the eggs. I can't see them actually pointing at a link to ALIEN so blatantly, but it will be more like a subtle, hushed easter egg for fans to see...that's more Ridley's style.

Either way, there will be a nod in there somehow.

I also have a feeling that the Japanese company Yutani will merge with Weyland in this film and that may happen at the end.

[Deck of Dragons]

QuickTidal, on 13 April 2012 - 06:33 PM, said:

The only way your analogy works is if there is more than one space jockey...

I've actually assumed that there will be more than one Space Jockey in this for quite awhile. I think some of the old interviews with Ridley might have mentioned them as plural and that he wanted to explore them.

I've actually tried to stay in the dark as much as I can because I am an Alien fanatic. But, I can't help but occasionally read snippets here and there. I've already spoiled to much of the film for myself already. Really, I just need to have media blackout until the film hits. Hopefully the soundtrack goes up for sale and is actually good like Alien/Aliens!

[QuickTidal]

Deck of Dragons, on 13 April 2012 - 06:33 PM, said:

How is it going to be the same ship? You think it is going to crash twice? Ridley said LV426 is not in the film. So how is the same craft going to end up there after crashing?

A. Just Read the interview. It's LV-223 (not LV-1) in Prometheus.

B. You assume that that ship that crashes and the ship that takes off are one and the same (I realize I eluded to this as well ...stop bringing logic!)

C. Don't assume.

D. I'm pretty sure that the derelict ship and space jockey from ALIEN are in PROMETHEUS. It makes no sense to have it be otherwise. None whatsoever.

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Deck of Dragons, on 13 April 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:

Hopefully the soundtrack goes up for sale and is actually good like Alien/Aliens!

The soundtrack to ALIEN is one of the greatest and most subtle scores in the history of cinema.

I'd love for PROMETHEUS to have a similar score.

[Deck of Dragons]

True. The ship that takes off may not be the one that crashes. I can handle that. Multiple ships of that class and one that eventually ends up on LV426. I see the Space Jockeys as the pilots for these things. That is why I think there will be more than one Space Jockey if their are multiple ships like that.

As awesome as this film is looking, I just worry that they may destroy the mystique of the Space Jockey.

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[QuickTidal]

I have faith in Ridley.

And I'm also of the mind that he'll raise more questions than he answers.

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[Deck of Dragons]

Soundtrack is up for pre-order...

Prometheus Soundtrack

[QuickTidal]

Deck of Dragons, on 13 April 2012 - 07:19 PM, said:

Soundtrack is up for pre-order...

Prometheus Soundtrack

I'll pre-order it at iTunes once I've heard it (closer to release).

Marc Streitenfeld is decent enough, but can be hit and miss...but my HOPE is that he apes Jerry Goldsmith's ALIEN score in at the very least tone and style...as I'm sure if Jerry were still with us, Ridley would have had him score it.

I'm just glad it's not someone as typically bombastic as James Horner or Hanz Zimmer. Both of them are great composers, but I think this film requires something more subtle and less in your face.

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[dktorode]

QuickTidal, on 13 April 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

dktorode, on 13 April 2012 - 06:22 PM, said:

I bet you 100 bucks this movie ends with an alien egg opening....

I wager it will be more obscure than that like perhaps the camera panning through the derelict ring ship and passing by (but not stopping at) the room John Hurt stumbled into with the eggs. I can't see them actually pointing at a link to ALIEN so blatantly, but it will be more like a subtle, hushed easter egg for fans to see...that's more Ridley's style.

Either way, there will be a nod in there somehow.

I also have a feeling that the Japanese company Yutani will merge with Weyland in this film and that may happen at the end.

well yea.... you get what i mean.


the point being the nod will be the last shot....

[worry]

Actually, from what I hear from industry insiders, the aliens in this movie will be revealed to not be aliens at all, but rather teenage mutants.

[dktorode]

worrywort, on 13 April 2012 - 09:55 PM, said:

Actually, from what I hear from industry insiders, the aliens in this movie will be revealed to not be aliens at all, but rather teenage mutants.

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