Malankazooie, on 14 November 2016 - 03:36 PM, said:
I guess. The extra 30 min. were unnecessary though. Do we really need that much time devoted to the Saviors stealing from Alexandria? The pace at which this show moves can be frustrating as hell at times.
^^This. While a portion of the ep was entertaining...the glacial pace they feel the need to move at in some of these eps is completely at odds with the normal speed other eps move at. But yeah, we did not need a whole ep focused on this. This is the type of ep that REALLY pisses me off about this show, and who is running it. Guess what guys? Your audience has proven (season 2) that they are unwilling to just sit around while you lollygag out plot lines for multiple episodes. Speed it up, or lose viewers.
Is it sadistic of me to wish a slow inexorable ratings drop off due to this nonsense? I want AMC to confront Gimple and Kirkman and be like "you guys need to do better". They won't...but a man can dream.
Mezla PigDog, on 16 November 2016 - 08:18 AM, said:
I'm finding Negan boring. Yes he's the big bad but his speeches are overlong and overused. He bashes people's brains in, he doesn't need to say that much.
Indeed!
Negan is SO over the top with JDM's overacting, that I can't fathom that no one has taken him out internally yet. I mean Dwight is a prime example of someone he COMPLETELY screwed over (stole his wife, held an iron to mangle his face ect.)...and he just bends the knee. I'm sorry, if you have hundreds of people, and you treat them as Negan treats his people...SOMEONE...fucking SOMEONE is going to take that asshole out. The lack of believability of Negan is therefore the bit that urks me most. That no one in his group, or any of the groups the Saviors have "subjugated" has taken a sniper shot at him (I mean he walks around freely without fear or much of a guard)....is completely unbelievable. All you need is someone like Carol (aim wise), and a decent sniper rifle. Bango. Yeah you'd have to deal with a battle with the Saviors...but jeezus, they'd be SO headless after Negan is taken out. No one under him takes initiative as he doesn't allow it (Everyone
Is Negan as he so longwindedly pointed out on the Daryl episode), so no one would be able to lead with any aplomb.
It's just stretched so far beyond credulity for me....and JDM's over the topness just is the icing on that cake. No one so ridiculously grandiose and fond of speeches...is gonna live long. But apparently Kirkman wanted a cartoonish villain that everyone just inexplicably follows....instead of doing the work to show how someone might rise to a dark power spot and hold that VIA tried an tested ways of holding power. Nope.
I would like to note that S.M. Stirling did this VERY WELL in his Emberverse series and his villain for the initial trilogy, Arminger. He had the background, the knowledge, and the forethought of tactics and politics to hold a spot of power and keep people under his sway...when I compare what Kirkman did with Negan...he pales in comparison to a level that makes him nearly invisible. Arminger is the EXACT same concept...executed well. Perhaps I'm holding Negan up to that high bar? I dunno. But yeah, he's boring as a result.
Ugh.
Sidebar: Yes, I AM beginning to hate this show...but no I'm not going to stop watching yet as I bought the seasons pass on iTunes, and I refuse to not get my money's worth. I've never "hate-watched" a show before...as I find that concept ridiculous...but this might be as close as I ever get.
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