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Mafia 77 The Family versus the FBI

#621 User is offline   Karosis 

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 08:44 AM

Hrrm. I was hoping for post number, but thanks for that. Strange statement as there are no real noobs or people who I'd think would forget how to play which is indicative there.

Frankly, Ano is one of two I haven't placed in my chart, meaning he could fall anywhere amongst my current pantheon.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 08:56 AM

View PostKarosis, on 15 September 2011 - 08:44 AM, said:

Hrrm. I was hoping for post number, but thanks for that. Strange statement as there are no real noobs or people who I'd think would forget how to play which is indicative there.

Frankly, Ano is one of two I haven't placed in my chart, meaning he could fall anywhere amongst my current pantheon.


Post number is #553 if I'm not mistaken, but there's a linky in the post if you want to know for sure ;). On a gut-level, I think there's a real possibility he's aligned to FBI or Outfit, I have no clue which one, but after lynching Morghy on a text-case, I have something of a trust in my ability to sniff out roles based on off-hand comments :p
I have no clue as to which faction however. Work and life (not to mention the number of players involved) are such that I haven't made a chart of who interacts with whom. Although frankly, Ano interacts with almost no-one... /shrug.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 08:58 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 14 September 2011 - 07:36 PM, said:


8 Votes for Kessobahn ( Tellan, Silanah, Serc, Telas, Korlat, Korbas, Alkend, Anomandaris)

Players not voted: Atrahal, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korabas, Shadow, Tiamatha

Kessobahn (Twelve) was town




so this is okay not unexpected. i don't mind being rid of other town that i don't a read on and that hasn't been voting. maybe tactically he thought he could just jump onto the winning side towards the end, risky and in the end it didn't pay off. where is tulas shorn on this btw?


View PostPath-Shaper, on 14 September 2011 - 10:24 PM, said:


Tulas Shorn (DiBs) is dead. He was a member of the Outfit.

Korlat (DkT) is dead. He was FBI.
Tiamatha (Bent) is dead. He was FBI.


11 Players still alive: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan




so a pretty eventful night time. at first glance this looks as if outfit came on top during the night phase. that is not taking into consideration the fm, now i'm unsure how the fm works to be totally honest. does this mean if ts was fm he jumped to fbi and left a killed outfit behind? and if korlat or tiam was fm then one of them jumped to outfit and left an fbi dead in its wake?

without focusing on that too much we are approaching end game. outfit and fbi are severly decimated so it would be in towns best interest to join one of the factions asap. i could believe tellan and telas are town, but i don't believe serc is. it was easy for him to join the train yesterday as he was under pressure by two votes.

i still believe atrahal slipped up the other day and is being protected by a number of people. therefore, if atrahal is part of a faction then i don't mind voting along with him and becoming a team mate too. i want to be on a faction and help that faction win the game, i just don't have a good read on everyone without having a proper in depth look through

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 09:01 AM

View PostShadow, on 15 September 2011 - 08:56 AM, said:

View PostKarosis, on 15 September 2011 - 08:44 AM, said:

Hrrm. I was hoping for post number, but thanks for that. Strange statement as there are no real noobs or people who I'd think would forget how to play which is indicative there.

Frankly, Ano is one of two I haven't placed in my chart, meaning he could fall anywhere amongst my current pantheon.


Post number is #553 if I'm not mistaken, but there's a linky in the post if you want to know for sure ;). On a gut-level, I think there's a real possibility he's aligned to FBI or Outfit, I have no clue which one, but after lynching Morghy on a text-case, I have something of a trust in my ability to sniff out roles based on off-hand comments :p
I have no clue as to which faction however. Work and life (not to mention the number of players involved) are such that I haven't made a chart of who interacts with whom. Although frankly, Ano interacts with almost no-one... /shrug.


shadow i believe you to be in a faction, i believe you to be in the same faction as the one you voted out at the start of the game the only train you've been on. i think you were in that faction but went quiet afterwards because you got a team member lynched. why else would you be so quiet all game.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 09:01 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 14 September 2011 - 11:33 AM, said:

It is Day 3. 11 hours and 29 minutes remaining
15 Players still alive: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korabas, Korbas, Korlat, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Serc ( Tulas Shorn, Korlat )

Players not voted: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tiamatha


anyone else notice that the two players that were killed were the only ones that voted for serc?

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 09:02 AM

To be honest, I have Serc as town right now, so I'm less likely to vote for him, Silanah. And, I've pretty much designated you as town so I won't be voting you.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 09:06 AM

Would you consider a Korbas vote, Silanah?

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 09:21 AM

View PostSilanah, on 15 September 2011 - 09:01 AM, said:

View PostShadow, on 15 September 2011 - 08:56 AM, said:

View PostKarosis, on 15 September 2011 - 08:44 AM, said:

Hrrm. I was hoping for post number, but thanks for that. Strange statement as there are no real noobs or people who I'd think would forget how to play which is indicative there.

Frankly, Ano is one of two I haven't placed in my chart, meaning he could fall anywhere amongst my current pantheon.


Post number is #553 if I'm not mistaken, but there's a linky in the post if you want to know for sure ;). On a gut-level, I think there's a real possibility he's aligned to FBI or Outfit, I have no clue which one, but after lynching Morghy on a text-case, I have something of a trust in my ability to sniff out roles based on off-hand comments :p
I have no clue as to which faction however. Work and life (not to mention the number of players involved) are such that I haven't made a chart of who interacts with whom. Although frankly, Ano interacts with almost no-one... /shrug.


shadow i believe you to be in a faction, i believe you to be in the same faction as the one you voted out at the start of the game the only train you've been on. i think you were in that faction but went quiet afterwards because you got a team member lynched. why else would you be so quiet all game.


I was quiet because I said beforehand I'd be low-posting. Then thanks to you guys fucking speedlynching I had no chance to log on during day or place a vote or point something out. I logged on twice at night and I don't make cases at night and I can;t vote then, so I made a post to avoid modkill and logged out to watch the footie, hoping the next day would be better.
If you want involvement, give people a chance to post.

Now, let's roll with the hypothetical idea that I'm in a faction:
1) unless I am the head honcho, I don't know other faction members so lynching someone in my own faction is regrettable but not something I can personally avoid.
2) unless I am a killer/fm who can deal with a faction member at night, why NOT post it? Morghy was stupid enough to give himself away, that deserves punishment. So why would I go on a quiet guildtrip out of fear of repeating that performance?
3) Unfortunate as it is if he was on my side, why would I change my behavior and posting style after that? It would make me stand out, and it wouldn't undo the damage anyway.
4) If I now come out of the woodwork to save Korbas' ass, meh. Why? Simply put: it makes very little difference for trains and in addition I'd out myself. Not a smart play with FMs, NKs and a role hunting town around, now is it?

I;d say that's 4 fairly good reasons why it's much more logical to me that I'm not roled but merely being pissed off that I have been on one train only, and have enough confidence in letting my own judgment on who i think is roled prevail, instead of jumping on randomly when i have no read on whomever it is you're lynching now according to your random method X.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 09:23 AM

View PostSilanah, on 15 September 2011 - 09:01 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 14 September 2011 - 11:33 AM, said:

It is Day 3. 11 hours and 29 minutes remaining
15 Players still alive: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korabas, Korbas, Korlat, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Serc ( Tulas Shorn, Korlat )

Players not voted: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tiamatha


anyone else notice that the two players that were killed were the only ones that voted for serc?


You realize unless two dumbass members of the same team (FM, NK) hit correctly that the odds of this are pretty low? Unless Serc convinced both teams he was a part of them, this line of inquiry is MEH.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 09:27 AM

Choosing not to post at night is a choice, obviously if it is the only choice you have. Better to post at night random bullshit, which you easily could have, than pretend that it is dire straights to not do so.

The more you talk, the more I want you dead.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 09:29 AM

I currently have you as Outfit, so that's not a bad lynch for me. But, it'd out my winning condition pretty heavily. So.... We'll wait.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 09:32 AM

View PostKarosis, on 15 September 2011 - 09:27 AM, said:

Choosing not to post at night is a choice, obviously if it is the only choice you have. Better to post at night random bullshit, which you easily could have, than pretend that it is dire straights to not do so.

The more you talk, the more I want you dead.


Blahblah. As if there is a reason or need for bullshit on thread, or a need for a roled player to post a case if he's not under attack himself. I wasn't, when I logged in today. You're pretty blatant in your attempts to not get people to follow an Ano vote, mate, and the sudden hostility is telling me something and that is that there's a sniff of shit between you two.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 09:33 AM

Vote Ano then. Have at it. I might follow you depending upon how my views are changed by the votes.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 09:37 AM

I do recognize your sudden presence out of the blue though, again. It's a habit of yours that you might want to break when you are low-posting.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 09:55 AM

View PostShadow, on 15 September 2011 - 09:32 AM, said:

View PostKarosis, on 15 September 2011 - 09:27 AM, said:

Choosing not to post at night is a choice, obviously if it is the only choice you have. Better to post at night random bullshit, which you easily could have, than pretend that it is dire straights to not do so.

The more you talk, the more I want you dead.


Blahblah. As if there is a reason or need for bullshit on thread, or a need for a roled player to post a case if he's not under attack himself. I wasn't, when I logged in today. You're pretty blatant in your attempts to not get people to follow an Ano vote, mate, and the sudden hostility is telling me something and that is that there's a sniff of shit between you two.


If this was a misdirection of Ano, then well done. As of now, this completes my most likely terribly shoddy faction chart.

I like "Blahblah" as a sentence starter, by the way. For real. Reminds me of my own bullshit starters.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 10:03 AM

I'm thinking we were witness to overkiill, purposefully or not (and they are sneaky bastards which is why I've waited this long)....

Vote Korbas


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Posted 15 September 2011 - 10:09 AM

View PostKarosis, on 15 September 2011 - 09:37 AM, said:

I do recognize your sudden presence out of the blue though, again. It's a habit of yours that you might want to break when you are low-posting.


Or maybe it has to do that I'm always at work at thursday morning and there's usually only administration for me to do then as most meetings have taken place earlier in the week. The interval between posts you just witnessed was my lunch break, by the by. I had some pretty good pepper paté and a filet américain, with onions, if you really want to know what I spent it on.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 10:17 AM

Sounds yummy. And makes me hungry. Jerk.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 10:27 AM

View PostKarosis, on 15 September 2011 - 09:06 AM, said:

Would you consider a Korbas vote, Silanah?



yeah probably, i'm just going through theories and wild thoughts right now. here's one for you, tennes finder, kesso head prosecutor or don. i'm just getting the game together in my messenger. i'm trying to look at voting patterns, interactions and what we have left. what is your thought on korbas? if you think he is killer then that would be great, we take out the killer and become part of the team with a killer!

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 10:40 AM

game so far.

fbi - (don, cons, mole, inf, cap, doc) outfit - (hp, sa, mole, inf, cop, doc)

so out of the 12 roled so far, 7 have snuffed it.
out of the remaining 9 town, 3 have snuffed it.

day one - sorrit (fbi) shadow, serc, korabas, tennes (town), korlat (fbi), tulas shorn (outfit), telas, tellan, tiam (fbi), me (town), anthras (fbi)

night one - ampelas (outfit) and anthras (fbi)

day two kalse (outfit) - alkend, tellan, karosis, telas, anomandaris, serc, tennes (town), atrahal, korbas, me (town)

night two - tennes and thyrllan (town)

day 3 - kessobahn (town) - tellan, me (town), serc, telas, korlat (fbi), korbas, alkend, ano

night 3 - tulas shorn (outfit), korlat (fbi) tiamatha (fbi)


correct me if i'm wrong about anything.

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