Mafia 77 The Family versus the FBI
#581
Posted 14 September 2011 - 10:24 PM
I hear you and your friends are stealing goods. But you don't even send a dress to my house. No respect! You know I've got three daughters. This is my neighborhood. You and your friends should show me some respect. You should let me wet my beak a little. I hear you and your friends cleared $600 each. Give me $200 each, for your own protection. And I'll forget the insult. You young punks have to learn to respect a man like me! Otherwise the cops will come to your house. And your family will be ruined. Of course, if I'm wrong about how much you stole, I'll take a little less. And by less, I only mean - a hundred bucks less. Now don't refuse me. Understand, paisan? Understand, paisan?...
Tulas Shorn (DiBs) is dead. He was a member of the Outfit.
Chief, and various brother agents. I owe all of you a huge apology. I just watched a show, ummm, Roots, maybe you've heard of it? It taught me such a profound lesson about bigotry. I have stood on the sidelines of race relations long enough! I want to march down that field of oppression and kick that ball of bigotry right over the goalpost of intolerance!
Korlat (DkT) is dead. He was FBI.
Tiamatha (Bent) is dead. He was FBI.
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11 Players still alive: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.
Players not voted: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
Tulas Shorn (DiBs) is dead. He was a member of the Outfit.
Chief, and various brother agents. I owe all of you a huge apology. I just watched a show, ummm, Roots, maybe you've heard of it? It taught me such a profound lesson about bigotry. I have stood on the sidelines of race relations long enough! I want to march down that field of oppression and kick that ball of bigotry right over the goalpost of intolerance!
Korlat (DkT) is dead. He was FBI.
Tiamatha (Bent) is dead. He was FBI.
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11 Players still alive: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.
Players not voted: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
#583
Posted 14 September 2011 - 10:30 PM
So, if my math is right there's 6 town and 5 role players left with 3 being Outfit and 2 being FBI?
Muy interesante.
Muy interesante.
#584
Posted 14 September 2011 - 10:32 PM
Seriously, who's for just forming a town faction? It's murder to be in Outfit or FBI!
#585
Posted 14 September 2011 - 10:33 PM
To be fair, they shouldn't be aiming for us, rather they should be trying to win us over, so it's easier for town in that aspect. Secondly, they have faction specific abilities and stuff besides the two NKs.
#586
Posted 14 September 2011 - 10:33 PM
Wait, wait! Hold on! 3 kills? Methinks the FM has moved!
#587
Posted 14 September 2011 - 10:40 PM
2 kills on the FBI side means that one of Korlat or Tiamatha was the FM, right, whilst the other was NKed? And now someone else is the FM.
Which means it's actually FBI who have 3 members left, and Outfit 2, because the FM can only jump into the opposing faction.
Which means it's actually FBI who have 3 members left, and Outfit 2, because the FM can only jump into the opposing faction.
#588
Posted 14 September 2011 - 10:41 PM
#589
Posted 14 September 2011 - 10:42 PM
Wow... I really don't even know what to do at this point. I need winning conditions. I feel like an idiot, I shouldn't have followed Tellan, but I didn't want to get left behind the train. I felt rushed.
Did anyone else notice that all those deaths were low content posters? I literally can't get a feel on anyone left alive except Tellan.
Path-Shaper, on 14 September 2011 - 10:24 PM, said:
I hear you and your friends are stealing goods. But you don't even send a dress to my house. No respect! You know I've got three daughters. This is my neighborhood. You and your friends should show me some respect. You should let me wet my beak a little. I hear you and your friends cleared $600 each. Give me $200 each, for your own protection. And I'll forget the insult. You young punks have to learn to respect a man like me! Otherwise the cops will come to your house. And your family will be ruined. Of course, if I'm wrong about how much you stole, I'll take a little less. And by less, I only mean - a hundred bucks less. Now don't refuse me. Understand, paisan? Understand, paisan?...
Tulas Shorn (DiBs) is dead. He was a member of the Outfit.
Chief, and various brother agents. I owe all of you a huge apology. I just watched a show, ummm, Roots, maybe you've heard of it? It taught me such a profound lesson about bigotry. I have stood on the sidelines of race relations long enough! I want to march down that field of oppression and kick that ball of bigotry right over the goalpost of intolerance!
Korlat (DkT) is dead. He was FBI.
Tiamatha (Bent) is dead. He was FBI.
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11 Players still alive: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.
Players not voted: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
Tulas Shorn (DiBs) is dead. He was a member of the Outfit.
Chief, and various brother agents. I owe all of you a huge apology. I just watched a show, ummm, Roots, maybe you've heard of it? It taught me such a profound lesson about bigotry. I have stood on the sidelines of race relations long enough! I want to march down that field of oppression and kick that ball of bigotry right over the goalpost of intolerance!
Korlat (DkT) is dead. He was FBI.
Tiamatha (Bent) is dead. He was FBI.
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11 Players still alive: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.
Players not voted: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
Did anyone else notice that all those deaths were low content posters? I literally can't get a feel on anyone left alive except Tellan.
#590
#591
Posted 14 September 2011 - 10:45 PM
Serc, on 14 September 2011 - 10:42 PM, said:
Wow... I really don't even know what to do at this point. I need winning conditions. I feel like an idiot, I shouldn't have followed Tellan, but I didn't want to get left behind the train. I felt rushed.
Did anyone else notice that all those deaths were low content posters? I literally can't get a feel on anyone left alive except Tellan.
Path-Shaper, on 14 September 2011 - 10:24 PM, said:
I hear you and your friends are stealing goods. But you don't even send a dress to my house. No respect! You know I've got three daughters. This is my neighborhood. You and your friends should show me some respect. You should let me wet my beak a little. I hear you and your friends cleared $600 each. Give me $200 each, for your own protection. And I'll forget the insult. You young punks have to learn to respect a man like me! Otherwise the cops will come to your house. And your family will be ruined. Of course, if I'm wrong about how much you stole, I'll take a little less. And by less, I only mean - a hundred bucks less. Now don't refuse me. Understand, paisan? Understand, paisan?...
Tulas Shorn (DiBs) is dead. He was a member of the Outfit.
Chief, and various brother agents. I owe all of you a huge apology. I just watched a show, ummm, Roots, maybe you've heard of it? It taught me such a profound lesson about bigotry. I have stood on the sidelines of race relations long enough! I want to march down that field of oppression and kick that ball of bigotry right over the goalpost of intolerance!
Korlat (DkT) is dead. He was FBI.
Tiamatha (Bent) is dead. He was FBI.
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11 Players still alive: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.
Players not voted: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
Tulas Shorn (DiBs) is dead. He was a member of the Outfit.
Chief, and various brother agents. I owe all of you a huge apology. I just watched a show, ummm, Roots, maybe you've heard of it? It taught me such a profound lesson about bigotry. I have stood on the sidelines of race relations long enough! I want to march down that field of oppression and kick that ball of bigotry right over the goalpost of intolerance!
Korlat (DkT) is dead. He was FBI.
Tiamatha (Bent) is dead. He was FBI.
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11 Players still alive: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.
Players not voted: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
Did anyone else notice that all those deaths were low content posters? I literally can't get a feel on anyone left alive except Tellan.
Not sure Korlat fits into that - they were quite active during the last day. But I agree with your general summary - it's been extremely hard to get a read on anyone for me. In fact, the only ones who stand out are Anomandaris and, erm, you

#592
Posted 14 September 2011 - 10:50 PM
I'm off to bed. Tomorrow, with more free time now available to me, I'm making cases on Serc and Anomandaris. No goddamn lynching without me this time!
#593
Posted 14 September 2011 - 10:52 PM
Korabas, on 14 September 2011 - 10:45 PM, said:
Serc, on 14 September 2011 - 10:42 PM, said:
Wow... I really don't even know what to do at this point. I need winning conditions. I feel like an idiot, I shouldn't have followed Tellan, but I didn't want to get left behind the train. I felt rushed.
Did anyone else notice that all those deaths were low content posters? I literally can't get a feel on anyone left alive except Tellan.
Path-Shaper, on 14 September 2011 - 10:24 PM, said:
I hear you and your friends are stealing goods. But you don't even send a dress to my house. No respect! You know I've got three daughters. This is my neighborhood. You and your friends should show me some respect. You should let me wet my beak a little. I hear you and your friends cleared $600 each. Give me $200 each, for your own protection. And I'll forget the insult. You young punks have to learn to respect a man like me! Otherwise the cops will come to your house. And your family will be ruined. Of course, if I'm wrong about how much you stole, I'll take a little less. And by less, I only mean - a hundred bucks less. Now don't refuse me. Understand, paisan? Understand, paisan?...
Tulas Shorn (DiBs) is dead. He was a member of the Outfit.
Chief, and various brother agents. I owe all of you a huge apology. I just watched a show, ummm, Roots, maybe you've heard of it? It taught me such a profound lesson about bigotry. I have stood on the sidelines of race relations long enough! I want to march down that field of oppression and kick that ball of bigotry right over the goalpost of intolerance!
Korlat (DkT) is dead. He was FBI.
Tiamatha (Bent) is dead. He was FBI.
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11 Players still alive: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.
Players not voted: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
Tulas Shorn (DiBs) is dead. He was a member of the Outfit.
Chief, and various brother agents. I owe all of you a huge apology. I just watched a show, ummm, Roots, maybe you've heard of it? It taught me such a profound lesson about bigotry. I have stood on the sidelines of race relations long enough! I want to march down that field of oppression and kick that ball of bigotry right over the goalpost of intolerance!
Korlat (DkT) is dead. He was FBI.
Tiamatha (Bent) is dead. He was FBI.
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11 Players still alive: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.
Players not voted: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
Did anyone else notice that all those deaths were low content posters? I literally can't get a feel on anyone left alive except Tellan.
Not sure Korlat fits into that - they were quite active during the last day. But I agree with your general summary - it's been extremely hard to get a read on anyone for me. In fact, the only ones who stand out are Anomandaris and, erm, you

Korlat was very nonexistant until I brought him up, then he went on the offensive. Now I'm confused why Tellan is not on your ending list there. He seems to have led us down the wrong lynching path (Unless we got one of the leaders). He is the final extremely active player.
#594
Posted 14 September 2011 - 10:55 PM
Shadow's still alive with 9 posts? That's kind of surprising.
#595
Posted 14 September 2011 - 11:01 PM
Serc, on 14 September 2011 - 10:52 PM, said:
Korabas, on 14 September 2011 - 10:45 PM, said:
Serc, on 14 September 2011 - 10:42 PM, said:
Wow... I really don't even know what to do at this point. I need winning conditions. I feel like an idiot, I shouldn't have followed Tellan, but I didn't want to get left behind the train. I felt rushed.
Did anyone else notice that all those deaths were low content posters? I literally can't get a feel on anyone left alive except Tellan.
Path-Shaper, on 14 September 2011 - 10:24 PM, said:
I hear you and your friends are stealing goods. But you don't even send a dress to my house. No respect! You know I've got three daughters. This is my neighborhood. You and your friends should show me some respect. You should let me wet my beak a little. I hear you and your friends cleared $600 each. Give me $200 each, for your own protection. And I'll forget the insult. You young punks have to learn to respect a man like me! Otherwise the cops will come to your house. And your family will be ruined. Of course, if I'm wrong about how much you stole, I'll take a little less. And by less, I only mean - a hundred bucks less. Now don't refuse me. Understand, paisan? Understand, paisan?...
Tulas Shorn (DiBs) is dead. He was a member of the Outfit.
Chief, and various brother agents. I owe all of you a huge apology. I just watched a show, ummm, Roots, maybe you've heard of it? It taught me such a profound lesson about bigotry. I have stood on the sidelines of race relations long enough! I want to march down that field of oppression and kick that ball of bigotry right over the goalpost of intolerance!
Korlat (DkT) is dead. He was FBI.
Tiamatha (Bent) is dead. He was FBI.
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11 Players still alive: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.
Players not voted: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
Tulas Shorn (DiBs) is dead. He was a member of the Outfit.
Chief, and various brother agents. I owe all of you a huge apology. I just watched a show, ummm, Roots, maybe you've heard of it? It taught me such a profound lesson about bigotry. I have stood on the sidelines of race relations long enough! I want to march down that field of oppression and kick that ball of bigotry right over the goalpost of intolerance!
Korlat (DkT) is dead. He was FBI.
Tiamatha (Bent) is dead. He was FBI.
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11 Players still alive: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.
Players not voted: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Karosis, Korabas, Korbas, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan
Did anyone else notice that all those deaths were low content posters? I literally can't get a feel on anyone left alive except Tellan.
Not sure Korlat fits into that - they were quite active during the last day. But I agree with your general summary - it's been extremely hard to get a read on anyone for me. In fact, the only ones who stand out are Anomandaris and, erm, you

Korlat was very nonexistant until I brought him up, then he went on the offensive. Now I'm confused why Tellan is not on your ending list there. He seems to have led us down the wrong lynching path (Unless we got one of the leaders). He is the final extremely active player.
This is what happens when you have one last look at the thread before going to bed - you always find you need to respond to something!


In all seriousness, you raise an interesting issue in how Tellann went very quiet once the train on Kess became unstoppable. However, on the other hand, your suspicion suggests that Tellann also had an agenda against Kesso over all the others, which presumably would mean that they were fairly convinced that Kesso was in the other faction to them. But Kesso was not. And the only way a faction member could be completely convinced that another is on the other faction is if they knew the result of a find. But again, Kesso was not Outfit or FBI from his CF. So Tellan could not have been convinced and so either had a strong suspicion, or just wanted a lynch. Tricky, tricky.
#596
Posted 14 September 2011 - 11:37 PM
Alright. I'm not sure what you all will make of this, but I'm posting anyway. I decided to look back at the posts of those who seem to be around right after night. Korabas and Karosis came up clean. According to their previous posts (mostly in the beginning, I stopped once I found major time similarities), they are posting at a time that is normal to them. Korbas, however, seems slightly off. Here is a list of his posting times (according to my time zone).
September 8 - We see a regular pattern here.
2:44 PM
2:45 PM
3:58 PM
September 9 - We see 1-1:30 AM (Before bed?) Then 11-12:30 (Next day)
1:00 AM
1:05 AM
1:23 AM
1:33 AM
11:00 AM
11:35 AM
11:48 AM
11:50 AM
11:51 AM
11:58 AM
12:29 PM
September 12 (Didn't post during weekend freeze) 11:11 AM is normal, then the two 10 PM posts seem different, earlier than previous "night" posts above (1-1:30 AM). Maybe just had an oportunity to post that wasnt typical.
11:11 AM
10:22 PM
10:26 PM
September 14 (Today) (Didn't post on September 13) 2:34 AM seems "late". There are other posts at similar times as the 12:07-1:52 PM times (1:52 may be stretching it).
2:34 AM
2:42 AM
12:07 PM
12:49 PM
1:52 PM
NIGHT ENDS AT 6:24 PM --------There is NO information that leads to the belief that this 6:41 PM post is a normal post. Korbas has never posted close to then.
6:41 PM
Keep in mind this was all done in my time zone.
My theory: Either Korbas is the FM, or Korbas has a night action that lead him to want to stick around as night was resolving. 20 minutes after night resolves, Korbas posts this:
Talking about the FM? Hmm....
September 8 - We see a regular pattern here.
2:44 PM
2:45 PM
3:58 PM
September 9 - We see 1-1:30 AM (Before bed?) Then 11-12:30 (Next day)
1:00 AM
1:05 AM
1:23 AM
1:33 AM
11:00 AM
11:35 AM
11:48 AM
11:50 AM
11:51 AM
11:58 AM
12:29 PM
September 12 (Didn't post during weekend freeze) 11:11 AM is normal, then the two 10 PM posts seem different, earlier than previous "night" posts above (1-1:30 AM). Maybe just had an oportunity to post that wasnt typical.
11:11 AM
10:22 PM
10:26 PM
September 14 (Today) (Didn't post on September 13) 2:34 AM seems "late". There are other posts at similar times as the 12:07-1:52 PM times (1:52 may be stretching it).
2:34 AM
2:42 AM
12:07 PM
12:49 PM
1:52 PM
NIGHT ENDS AT 6:24 PM --------There is NO information that leads to the belief that this 6:41 PM post is a normal post. Korbas has never posted close to then.
6:41 PM
Keep in mind this was all done in my time zone.
My theory: Either Korbas is the FM, or Korbas has a night action that lead him to want to stick around as night was resolving. 20 minutes after night resolves, Korbas posts this:
Korbas, on 14 September 2011 - 10:41 PM, said:
Talking about the FM? Hmm....
#597
Posted 14 September 2011 - 11:44 PM
OK, so I'm going to go to bed. Can I trust you lot not to lynch someone in the next 10 seconds?
ST

ST
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
#598
Posted 14 September 2011 - 11:49 PM
Alright, you bastards are suposed to wait for the rest of us. And you should get the roled players, but I would have joined the train, too.
Serc is using meta, but he may be right, I've been looking and don't have a better guess. The town voting block shit works for me as long as the right assholes get lynched.
Korbas have you got any thing to say about the FM thing?
Serc is using meta, but he may be right, I've been looking and don't have a better guess. The town voting block shit works for me as long as the right assholes get lynched.
Korbas have you got any thing to say about the FM thing?
#599
Posted 14 September 2011 - 11:49 PM
Path-Shaper, on 14 September 2011 - 11:44 PM, said:
OK, so I'm going to go to bed. Can I trust you lot not to lynch someone in the next 10 seconds?
ST

ST
Vote Path-Shaper!
Nah, but I'm gonna go ahead and
Vote Korbas
Early Vote. Will change it if something better comes up, but I'm backing this one up.
#600
Posted 14 September 2011 - 11:51 PM
Atrahal, on 14 September 2011 - 11:49 PM, said:
Alright, you bastards are suposed to wait for the rest of us. And you should get the roled players, but I would have joined the train, too.
Serc is using meta, but he may be right, I've been looking and don't have a better guess. The town voting block shit works for me as long as the right assholes get lynched.
Korbas have you got any thing to say about the FM thing?
Serc is using meta, but he may be right, I've been looking and don't have a better guess. The town voting block shit works for me as long as the right assholes get lynched.
Korbas have you got any thing to say about the FM thing?
It's not technically meta, I'm not speculating about who Korbas is or what time zone he's in or anything.
I'm just saying he posted way out of his normal posting times.