[Serc]

I guess, what I'm saying is Kalse is the more lynchable candidate in my view.

However, I think I'd rather lynch someone who never says anything... Like Korlat.

[Telas]

Serc, on 12 September 2011 - 10:36 PM, said:

Tellan, on 12 September 2011 - 10:25 PM, said:

What makes you think Kalse is fishy? I actually just finished going through his posts, and he seems consistently cantankerous and his post style is pretty consistent, so I am retracting my assumption of FM jump. However, I still think he could very well be roled.

It's mostly the way he makes posts without saying anything. He rarely even repeats the arguments of others, to atleast look like he's doing something.

He also seems like he is playing dumb:

Kalse, on 12 September 2011 - 08:34 PM, said:

Tellan, on 12 September 2011 - 05:30 PM, said:

Anthras, on 09 September 2011 - 05:14 PM, said:

Hahaha, sometimes the simplest cases are true

Kalse, on 12 September 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

JA's dead already? :lmao:

Also thought the similarity of the quotes was kind of interesting, but not putting much stock in this observation.... yet.

i'm sorry, are you suggesting I jumped into JA's alt?

What is the point of this post?

Kalse, on 12 September 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:

Tennes, on 12 September 2011 - 07:51 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 12 September 2011 - 07:40 PM, said:

Tennes, on 12 September 2011 - 07:18 PM, said:

Like you say, I am on a train, and if nothing changes and I die I'll get my alignment anyhow.

If people want to vote for weak, near random reasons, they can suit themselves. How you think that's going to give you a better chance of hitting who you want to I don't know but whatever.

The only people who have a problem with hitting at random are roled players, because they can hit a teammate.
Townies, who where on the lynch last day have tendency who they want to hit, but it is still pretty open for them.
And for the townies who where not on the train it doesn't matter at all, the only thing is that they want ot hit roled players to get winning conditions.

So that's a lot of people for whom it doesn't really or only slightly matter who they hit.

But you seem to care, so maybe you are roled?

This is exactly the fucking idiotic idea I've been arguing against.

Town should care who they lynch. Those of us on the train want to maintain our advantage. Those off the train want to gain the same faction as those on the previous train, because they have a significantly better chance of victory that way.

There is the potential for a lot of death at night, and the more lynches we miss the more chance that people won't get aligned.

But since apparently "fuck you, got mine" is the correct way to play.

Vote Tennes

Let's lynch me.

I'm town, and when I die I'll get my alignment. I'm not going to vote on a crap train because I don't want to balance out my alignment by hitting the wrong team. People seem determined to vote randomly anyway, in which case it's going to come down to luck anyhow, and I'd rather trust lucky NAs to keep the outfit at an advantage than randomly lynch one of them so me being lynched is a nice day where you don't hit them for me.

If the town is going to insist on playing shoddily and lynch randomly it's down to luck anyhow.

As well as which, hitting me nicely reduces the chances of a bunch of you managing get aligned.

really?


I mean, SERIOUSLY?

wow

Something seems up. I could be wrong.

I hadn't really considered it from that angle at all but seeing the posts together there is a noticeable lack of content, useful or otherwise. I was more looking at it from strictly the could have have jumped/smiley angle but i'd say this is a stronger case than that, even to guess at him being something like FM, in that case short posts would be a plus since it would be less likely to trip him up.

[Serc]

Telas, on 12 September 2011 - 10:49 PM, said:

Serc, on 12 September 2011 - 10:36 PM, said:

Tellan, on 12 September 2011 - 10:25 PM, said:

What makes you think Kalse is fishy? I actually just finished going through his posts, and he seems consistently cantankerous and his post style is pretty consistent, so I am retracting my assumption of FM jump. However, I still think he could very well be roled.

It's mostly the way he makes posts without saying anything. He rarely even repeats the arguments of others, to atleast look like he's doing something.

He also seems like he is playing dumb:

Kalse, on 12 September 2011 - 08:34 PM, said:

Tellan, on 12 September 2011 - 05:30 PM, said:

Anthras, on 09 September 2011 - 05:14 PM, said:

Hahaha, sometimes the simplest cases are true

Kalse, on 12 September 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

JA's dead already? :lmao:

Also thought the similarity of the quotes was kind of interesting, but not putting much stock in this observation.... yet.

i'm sorry, are you suggesting I jumped into JA's alt?

What is the point of this post?

Kalse, on 12 September 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:

Tennes, on 12 September 2011 - 07:51 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 12 September 2011 - 07:40 PM, said:

Tennes, on 12 September 2011 - 07:18 PM, said:

Like you say, I am on a train, and if nothing changes and I die I'll get my alignment anyhow.

If people want to vote for weak, near random reasons, they can suit themselves. How you think that's going to give you a better chance of hitting who you want to I don't know but whatever.

The only people who have a problem with hitting at random are roled players, because they can hit a teammate.
Townies, who where on the lynch last day have tendency who they want to hit, but it is still pretty open for them.
And for the townies who where not on the train it doesn't matter at all, the only thing is that they want ot hit roled players to get winning conditions.

So that's a lot of people for whom it doesn't really or only slightly matter who they hit.

But you seem to care, so maybe you are roled?

This is exactly the fucking idiotic idea I've been arguing against.

Town should care who they lynch. Those of us on the train want to maintain our advantage. Those off the train want to gain the same faction as those on the previous train, because they have a significantly better chance of victory that way.

There is the potential for a lot of death at night, and the more lynches we miss the more chance that people won't get aligned.

But since apparently "fuck you, got mine" is the correct way to play.

Vote Tennes

Let's lynch me.

I'm town, and when I die I'll get my alignment. I'm not going to vote on a crap train because I don't want to balance out my alignment by hitting the wrong team. People seem determined to vote randomly anyway, in which case it's going to come down to luck anyhow, and I'd rather trust lucky NAs to keep the outfit at an advantage than randomly lynch one of them so me being lynched is a nice day where you don't hit them for me.

If the town is going to insist on playing shoddily and lynch randomly it's down to luck anyhow.

As well as which, hitting me nicely reduces the chances of a bunch of you managing get aligned.

really?


I mean, SERIOUSLY?

wow

Something seems up. I could be wrong.

I hadn't really considered it from that angle at all but seeing the posts together there is a noticeable lack of content, useful or otherwise. I was more looking at it from strictly the could have have jumped/smiley angle but i'd say this is a stronger case than that, even to guess at him being something like FM, in that case short posts would be a plus since it would be less likely to trip him up.

Kalse seems like a logical choice for an FM jump. Regardless, he isn't helping us much with the pointless posts. That alone, right now, seems to make him a high lynch target. Add the tiniest bit of suspicion for an FM jump, and we may have our lynch target for today.

[Karosis]

Alright, the zero content plus the inaccuracy with the FM mechanics when it is pretty plain as day in the OP:

Vote Kalse

If something better comes along I'm not unwilling to switch.

[Serc]

Karosis, on 12 September 2011 - 10:58 PM, said:

Alright, the zero content plus the inaccuracy with the FM mechanics when it is pretty plain as day in the OP:

Vote Kalse

If something better comes along I'm not unwilling to switch.

I'd love for Kalse to come defend himself, before I vote.

But if you insist on lurking, that won't save you.

[Tennes]

Tellan, on 12 September 2011 - 09:57 PM, said:

Ok Tennes, time for the age old question: who would you like to vote for? Put your money where your mouth is. You talk ad nauseam about how town is stupid letting the low posters slide, how there is little content and lynch trains allow people to ride free and clear. You want more discussion so as to get a read on people, but you spend more time arguing your myopic points than actually pointing fingers and seeing if the shit sticks.

I currently think Kalse is a good lynch candidate. If you look here:

http://forum.malazan...878ce4e33907abe

at all his posts up to this point, you will see almost nothing but blank space. Perfect FM candidate for one. Even if the FM did not get him, he is lying too low for a townie, who at this point has two objectives: identify the roled players and lynch them.

Kalse is low on content, but hardly alone there. Let's look at my opinion of everyone elses content:

Thyrllan: 5 posts. Has two posts of content. The first is asking why I care who we lynched (I'd already covered this), the second barely qualifies as content. Starts by talking about mechanics, a bit saying he thinks it's still open in regards to siding with a faction (again, this has come up before), and a vague "I'm not sure you are RI"

Korlat: 6 posts. Next to zero content. 4 are completely without content. 1 is about starting on a friday. 3 are pointless questions, look pretty dodgy. "what did I miss?" ""That's 2 FBI down already right" and "Night actions still not in?...wow". The latter two completely state the obvious. His other two posts are agreeing about sorrit and voting. Says "although....there are a few people here that are claiming to be town that are laying it on a bit thick aswell....maybe a bit too thick.if you catch my drift." but doesn't follow it up with say, who those people are and examples of where they lay it on thick.

Atrahal: 6 posts. Zero content. Signs in, makes a post about one of the avatars. Celebrates lynching morgy. Comments on the speed of the lynch, suggests it might be worth keeping an eye 5 people who may be signalling, which seems unlikely given that the teams don't ave a high level of cohesion. Joke votes me for posting a long post and tells me not to be so serious. Oh, and a post that is "Boooo! "

Shadow: 6 posts. Next to zero content. Signs in, votes sorrit, re-iterates his point about sorrit. Post about being right, post explaining why there may be a lack of content at night, post responding to anthras' chatter during the night. Starts "you're safe" which is ironic in hindsight.

Korabas: 7 posts. A bit more content. Signs in. Comments he liked the ano train but votes for sorrit due to inevitability. Comments on Tellans point about me removing me vote, agreeing with him. On the other hand, also thinks I had a point about the train pileup looking dodgy, which is a bit middle of the road. Also treats the Telas case as serious. Next couple of posts are filler about the level of discussion over the break. Final post is meta looking at timings of people being on over the night.

Tulas Shorn: Very little content. Chats a bit about mechanics, votes sorrit. Doesn't seem to like the vote on Kess, nor me removing my vote. Post about how it's not worth posting at night and one complaining that it's still night.

Telas: 9 posts. More content. Not much contribution to start but picks up. Checks in, posts the gun comment, votes sorrit and leaves. Post about the length of the night. Long defence of the gun post. Short reply to me pointing my posts regarding it weren't serious. Agrees with serc that we should try to have more info today, and about me. Thinks case on Kalse is weak. Some thoughts on me voting myself, which he isn't very fond of, and again back to the gun comment. He quotes a lot which makes his posts seem a lot longer than they are.

Kalse: 11 posts. As Tellan points out, little content. Lots of chat, dismisses the smiley case.

Alkend: 13 posts. Not much content. Votes silanah early, supposedly an avatar grudge. Thinks kalse is worth watching over the smiley thing. Votes him. Argues with me that town should be playing self interestedly.

Serc: 14 posts. Decent level of content. Checks in, votes shadow for how shadow checked in. Votes sorrit to see where it goes. Doesn't react strongly to things like Telas' gun comment, or Alkend saying "bam". Seems to think they're worth bearing in mind but not focussing on too much, pretty reasonable. He's pretty agreeable and reasonable throughout. For example mentions "no town deaths" as a good thing when actually when you think about it, it shouldn't really matter to him, like he's trying to say the kind of thing usually expect of town etc. Again agreeable, calls the smiley thing a "fantastic catch". Ponders about possible anth/ano distancing which seems rather unlikely as someone else pointed out, seems like filler. Asks others for opinion. Cautious about voting early, can see where people are coming from, continues being agreeable. Doesn't like my self vote but doesn't vote. Comments like this "Think your votes through. I don't want to come back to a town death. " just seem like someone trying too hard to seem town. Agrees that low posters are irritating, and that kalse seems fishy. Agrees with Telas about me and Thyr. Before this I had a fairly good gut feeling about serc, but now think he seems fairly dodgy.

Anomandaris: 15 posts. Very little content. Signs in, points out the thing about the FM can't jump to healers and draws some heat. Gets some clarification about day length from PS. Jokey votes and chat about name confusion. Defends himself a bit for his comment and the idea that sorrit got de-railed onto. A little speculation about silanah and the scene.

That took a long time, I'm going to take a break from summarizing for a bit, hopefully will do the rest later.

Anyway Tellan, as you can see, Kalse is hardly alone on having low content. His style seems a bit different than others. What seems off to me is that they imply he has opinions that he doesn't expand on (his wallbash at my self vote for example). Also, some of the low posters haven't really been on while there was much discussion, while kalse has been on recently, and defends from the smiley thing, but doesn't give further comment. Most of his comments are short and innocuous, and he disappears shortly thereafter.

Edited for colour.

This post has been edited by Tennes: 13 September 2011 - 12:44 AM

[Karosis]

Zero content in very few posts might just be extremely bored town. Wouldn't be the first time that has happened.

I'd lynch just about anybody right now. I'd prefer it be FBI as they are down two already, but any roled player is fine by me.

[Serc]

Tennes, on 12 September 2011 - 11:17 PM, said:

Tellan, on 12 September 2011 - 09:57 PM, said:

Ok Tennes, time for the age old question: who would you like to vote for? Put your money where your mouth is. You talk ad nauseam about how town is stupid letting the low posters slide, how there is little content and lynch trains allow people to ride free and clear. You want more discussion so as to get a read on people, but you spend more time arguing your myopic points than actually pointing fingers and seeing if the shit sticks.

I currently think Kalse is a good lynch candidate. If you look here:

http://forum.malazan...878ce4e33907abe

at all his posts up to this point, you will see almost nothing but blank space. Perfect FM candidate for one. Even if the FM did not get him, he is lying too low for a townie, who at this point has two objectives: identify the roled players and lynch them.

Kalse is low on content, but hardly alone there. Let's look at my opinion of everyone elses content:

Thyrllan: 5 posts. Has two posts of content. The first is asking why I care who we lynched (I'd already covered this), the second barely qualifies as content. Starts by talking about mechanics, a bit saying he thinks it's still open in regards to siding with a faction (again, this has come up before), and a vague "I'm not sure you are RI"

Korlat: 6 posts. Next to zero content. 4 are completely without content. 1 is about starting on a friday. 3 are pointless questions, look pretty dodgy. "what did I miss?" ""That's 2 FBI down already right" and "Night actions still not in?...wow". The latter two completely state the obvious. His other two posts are agreeing about sorrit and voting. Says "although....there are a few people here that are claiming to be town that are laying it on a bit thick aswell....maybe a bit too thick.if you catch my drift." but doesn't follow it up with say, who those people are and examples of where they lay it on thick.


Atrahal: 6 posts. Zero content. Signs in, makes a post about one of the avatars. Celebrates lynching morgy. Comments on the speed of the lynch, suggests it might be worth keeping an eye 5 people who may be signalling, which seems unlikely given that the teams don't ave a high level of cohesion. Joke votes me for posting a long post and tells me not to be so serious. Oh, and a post that is "Boooo! "


Shadow: 6 posts. Next to zero content. Signs in, votes sorrit, re-iterates his point about sorrit. Post about being right, post explaining why there may be a lack of content at night, post responding to anthras' chatter during the night. Starts "you're safe" which is ironic in hindsight.


Korabas: 7 posts. A bit more content. Signs in. Comments he liked the ano train but votes for sorrit due to inevitability. Comments on Tellans point about me removing me vote, agreeing with him. On the other hand, also thinks I had a point about the train pileup looking dodgy, which is a bit middle of the road. Also treats the Telas case as serious. Next couple of posts are filler about the level of discussion over the break. Final post is meta looking at timings of people being on over the night.


Tulas Shorn: Very little content. Chats a bit about mechanics, votes sorrit. Doesn't seem to like the vote on Kess, nor me removing my vote. Post about how it's not worth posting at night and one complaining that it's still night.


Telas: 9 posts. More content. Not much contribution to start but picks up. Checks in, posts the gun comment, votes sorrit and leaves. Post about the length of the night. Long defence of the gun post. Short reply to me pointing my posts regarding it weren't serious. Agrees with serc that we should try to have more info today, and about me. Thinks case on Kalse is weak. Some thoughts on me voting myself, which he isn't very fond of, and again back to the gun comment. He quotes a lot which makes his posts seem a lot longer than they are.


Kalse: 11 posts. As Tellan points out, little content. Lots of chat, dismisses the smiley case.


Alkend: 13 posts. Not much content. Votes silanah early, supposedly an avatar grudge. Thinks kalse is worth watching over the smiley thing. Votes him. Argues with me that town should be playing self interestedly.


Serc: 14 posts. Decent level of content. Checks in, votes shadow for how shadow checked in. Votes sorrit to see where it goes. Doesn't react strongly to things like Telas' gun comment, or Alkend saying "bam". Seems to think they're worth bearing in mind but not focussing on too much, pretty reasonable. He's pretty agreeable and reasonable throughout. For example mentions "no town deaths" as a good thing when actually when you think about it, it shouldn't really matter to him, like he's trying to say the kind of thing usually expect of town etc. Again agreeable, calls the smiley thing a "fantastic catch". Ponders about possible anth/ano distancing which seems rather unlikely as someone else pointed out, seems like filler. Asks others for opinion. Cautious about voting early, can see where people are coming from, continues being agreeable. Doesn't like my self vote but doesn't vote. Comments like this "Think your votes through. I don't want to come back to a town death. " just seem like someone trying too hard to seem town. Agrees that low posters are irritating, and that kalse seems fishy. Agrees with Telas about me and Thyr. Before this I had a fairly good gut feeling about serc, but now think he seems fairly dodgy.


Anomandaris: 15 posts. Very little content. Signs in, points out the thing about the FM can't jump to healers and draws some heat. Gets some clarification about day length from PS. Jokey votes and chat about name confusion. Defends himself a bit for his comment and the idea that sorrit got de-railed onto. A little speculation about silanah and the scene.


That took a long time, I'm going to take a break from summarizing for a bit, hopefully will do the rest later.

Anyway Tellan, as you can see, Kalse is hardly alone on having low content. His style seems a bit different than others. What seems off to me is that they imply he has opinions that he doesn't expand on (his wallbash at my self vote for example). Also, some of the low posters haven't really been on while there was much discussion, while kalse has been on recently, and defends from the smiley thing, but doesn't give further comment. Most of his comments are short and innocuous, and he disappears shortly thereafter.

I didn't realize there were so many low posters.

The things that struck me the most from this post are that I need to be more of an asshole, clearly. In all seriousness, why would I ever want a town lynch? The more town that remain alive (and with the same winning conditions as me) the better chance we have of winning. The town is a collective, we decide this game, not the roled players. I don't see why I made you suspicious.

Regardless, another thing that caught me is that Anomandaris has so many posts but so little content. I knew he wasn't helping much, but I didn't realized he spammed like that.

Finally, I want to make it clear that Kalse still seems like the lynchable target today, even after this post. What seperates him from the other posters with no content? He pops up when mentioned, and briefly defends himself (if you can call it that). He plays dumb, and he is a possible FM jump. This makes him a better target to lynch that any of the other low contributors, yes?

[Telas]

It's less just the low posting with Kalse and more the content and style of his post. They are very uninformative, add next to nothing to the discussion and on the whole are doing nothing to help town. It is my bed time now, I hope to be able to get back on before time runs out but depending on how rushed the morning is I don't know how likely this is.

So for the reasons started above and in the last couple of posts I made I shall for now

Vote Kalse

I still feel uncomfortable about the whole self-vote issue and Thyrillan's disregard for town as a collective but certainly Tennes at this point is at least musing over ideas and posting his thoughts even if he has a flair for the dramatic running through them all.

[Anomandaris]

Bad day folks and I don't have any time to do anything. I Read up from last night, and yes I did miss that post(more rusty than I care to admit). I see a lot of just repeating the same post over and over so I'm going to jump on the Kalse train because I don't have time to do any work myself.

vote Kalse

[Tennes]

Serc, on 12 September 2011 - 11:38 PM, said:

The things that struck me the most from this post are that I need to be more of an asshole, clearly.

Not being an asshole and agreeing with everything are rather different.

Serc, on 12 September 2011 - 11:38 PM, said:

In all seriousness, why would I ever want a town lynch?

You said town death, not lynch. Why would you care if another town player got NK'd?

Serc, on 12 September 2011 - 11:38 PM, said:

The more town that remain alive (and with the same winning conditions as me) the better chance we have of winning.

What gives you that impression? Seriously, I can't really think why it matters, certainly with so many town to start. Later in the game it may matter how many people each faction has gained, but at this stage a town loss doesn't seem to make a difference (except if it's a wasted lynch).

Serc, on 12 September 2011 - 11:38 PM, said:

I don't see why I made you suspicious.

Because you have been very non controversial, and very agreeable, which keeps you in a position to have influence without getting dragged too much into conflict.

Serc, on 12 September 2011 - 11:38 PM, said:

Finally, I want to make it clear that Kalse still seems like the lynchable target today, even after this post. What seperates him from the other posters with no content? He pops up when mentioned, and briefly defends himself (if you can call it that). He plays dumb, and he is a possible FM jump. This makes him a better target to lynch that any of the other low contributors, yes?

Hard to call really. There are people who have really posted utterly nothing, and I'm not really if he's worse than them or they're worse than him.

[Serc]

Tennes, on 13 September 2011 - 12:00 AM, said:

Serc, on 12 September 2011 - 11:38 PM, said:

The things that struck me the most from this post are that I need to be more of an asshole, clearly.

Not being an asshole and agreeing with everything are rather different.

Serc, on 12 September 2011 - 11:38 PM, said:

In all seriousness, why would I ever want a town lynch?

You said town death, not lynch. Why would you care if another town player got NK'd?

Serc, on 12 September 2011 - 11:38 PM, said:

The more town that remain alive (and with the same winning conditions as me) the better chance we have of winning.

What gives you that impression? Seriously, I can't really think why it matters, certainly with so many town to start. Later in the game it may matter how many people each faction has gained, but at this stage a town loss doesn't seem to make a difference (except if it's a wasted lynch).

Serc, on 12 September 2011 - 11:38 PM, said:

I don't see why I made you suspicious.

Because you have been very non controversial, and very agreeable, which keeps you in a position to have influence without getting dragged too much into conflict.

Serc, on 12 September 2011 - 11:38 PM, said:

Finally, I want to make it clear that Kalse still seems like the lynchable target today, even after this post. What seperates him from the other posters with no content? He pops up when mentioned, and briefly defends himself (if you can call it that). He plays dumb, and he is a possible FM jump. This makes him a better target to lynch that any of the other low contributors, yes?

Hard to call really. There are people who have really posted utterly nothing, and I'm not really if he's worse than them or they're worse than him.

Alright, fair enough, you caught me. I need to stop agreeing with things I agree with.

Anyway

Vote Kalse

For all the previously mentioned reasons.

[Atrahal]

Alright asshats, I am here and can finally get my head in the game. I read the whole thread and I cant tell filler from actual information. Lots of finger pointing, but no real meat to the "cases" Mainly because as was stated above many people (including myself to this point) have not had shit to say

I will agree with one person though, Thyrllan I believe said he is playing for himself. I think thats a smart move, however, I don't believe that we can just vote off people at random and hope for the best. I think if you are playing for yourself you have to keep your mind on the game, not looking for scum, per se, but looking for the FM's would be useful. Keeping an eye out for signalling, etc, might help us work out a team.

Keep in mind that its possible that after tonights lynch, several peoples game plans will change. I missed the vote last time, Im not sure if that helps me, or hurts me, because I may have different winning conditions than most of you. ANyway, thats my thoughts so far. I will hold off on voting for a little while, at least until A. a decent case is presented or B. I present a decent case. Back in a few.

[Tennes]

Karosis, on 12 September 2011 - 11:32 PM, said:

Zero content in very few posts might just be extremely bored town. Wouldn't be the first time that has happened.

I'd lynch just about anybody right now. I'd prefer it be FBI as they are down two already, but any roled player is fine by me.

Why?

If we hit FBI the game seems like it'd be really in our favour.

I know people want to be on a train, but I don't see why that should preclude thinking about the long term.

[Karosis]

Tennes, on 13 September 2011 - 12:04 AM, said:

Karosis, on 12 September 2011 - 11:32 PM, said:

Zero content in very few posts might just be extremely bored town. Wouldn't be the first time that has happened.

I'd lynch just about anybody right now. I'd prefer it be FBI as they are down two already, but any roled player is fine by me.

Why?

If we hit FBI the game seems like it'd be really in our favour.

I know people want to be on a train, but I don't see why that should preclude thinking about the long term.

I said I'd prefer FBI. But, then again, spotting differences amongst the two factions at this point would be pretty damned difficult. Thus, I'll vote for someone I think is roled and hope it's FBI. However, there is now a lower chance of lynching them than Outfit because there is one less.

So, identifying role players is I think the way to go.

[Karosis]

Also, for all we know we could have hit a Mole and our numbers are fucked at this point due to that CF. Now, I'll assume we haven't due to sheer probability, but I won't simply ignore the possibility that it's 2-1 the other way.

[Tennes]

Serc, on 13 September 2011 - 12:02 AM, said:

Alright, fair enough, you caught me. I need to stop agreeing with things I agree with.

Please quote one time you outright disagree with something?

Every you state an opinion you qualify it to be more middle of the road. Let's take a look:

"I'm not certain that the comment should result in a Telas lynch, but I think it should be filed away in the "suspicious statements" file. "

"This is all I have on Alkend. The "bam" thing seems strange, but I'm stretching."

"Do the quotes above lead anyone else to the idea of Anthras distancing himself from Anomandaris? It seems risky, yes, but during the second quote he seems to deny a derailment happening. I see Anthras as being Special Agent In charge and Anomandaris as Head Prosecutor. Anyone else have an opinion here? "

Here you start of seeming like you might not be middle of the road:

"Voting for yourself does nothing. It doesn't prove any point beyond the fact that you enjoy being dramatic."

But then in kicks the disclaimer "I get the sense that you're bluffing. But not enough to cast a vote. "

Then later "I'm not saying I disagree with a lot of what you're saying" and "It's probably safe to assume that there are plenty of people like me that agree with your points, if not your approach."

"I don't actually have a huge problem with any of these votes. "

"I don't know. No evidence is particularly solid. "

"Something seems up. I could be wrong. "

You switch from "but" to "however" after a bit.

"I actually agree with you about both of them.
However, it would be more in our interest to lynch someone who is contributing little"

"I guess, what I'm saying is Kalse is the more lynchable candidate in my view. However, I think I'd rather lynch someone who never says anything... Like Korlat."

You are extremely middle of the road, in all your posting. And your vote as well. You have been talking about how Kalse seems dodgy, pushing for his lynch, and yet you do not vote until it is a safe bet with plenty of others going first.

Edited for colour.

This post has been edited by Tennes: 13 September 2011 - 12:44 AM

[Atrahal]

Karosis, on 13 September 2011 - 12:11 AM, said:

So, identifying role players is I think the way to go.

See, smart play. However inconsistent, because you are voting Kalse for other reasons. You did say u were willing to switch though, which gives you wiggle room, but just.

[Tennes]

Remove vote

Vote Serc

[Karosis]

I'm voting Kalse because of little content and possibly trying to mask FM abilities, which is a typical roled player move. It's not much, but it's enough for me for now.

Edit: x-post with vote.

This post has been edited by Karosis: 13 September 2011 - 12:22 AM