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Mafia 78 SPOILERS - Rot3K Ch. 6 Opium-rich warfare at its finest

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 04:24 PM

Sorrit, on 04 October 2011 - 03:10 PM, said:

I am guessing that the Usurper now becomes active because 2 civil/military officers are down, I don't know why, or maybe it is just generally because we have reached day 3.



Sorrit, on 04 October 2011 - 03:12 PM, said:

and I have decided at the moment to become the predator, I am going to change into my military uniform tomorrow, move to the same place as day one and kill osseric, none of this whispering malarky, Tennes may want me to give him info but he isn't participating. He says the minimal amount and doesn't give me anything. So at the moment I may just not say anything to him and go and kill Osseric



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Karosis, on 04 October 2011 - 02:38 PM, said:

The reason i am healing myself would be because of the fact that if Korlat dies i still get his ability to kill afterwards so the kill ability will not die with him.
Whereas if i heal him trying to keep the kill ability alive i might get taken out cheaply and then there is no heal and only the kill action available to him.
the way i see it, its playing the odds by healing myself and hoping they dont kill korlat, but if they do I still have the kill option.

or something along those lines.


besides we got BP's now so its less dangerous.


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Posted 04 October 2011 - 06:18 PM

Hood, on 04 October 2011 - 05:33 PM, said:

find - Okaros


Noted.

Hood, on 04 October 2011 - 05:38 PM, said:

Can I post notices as well?



Hood, on 04 October 2011 - 05:40 PM, said:

When Can I move? I think I should be back with my leader. If I remember correctly about having multiple people from the same alliance in a location it can add additional protection to allies at that location.


Notices and Moves are during the Day. They're iron-man so once you submit a day action that's it, so take your time to figure out what you want to do during the day.
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Posted 04 October 2011 - 06:43 PM

Well first night was hopeful with numerous successful finds and Omtose getting ready to assassinate. Night 2... pretty dull but at least there was a recruit in there and a couple more finds.

But here's hoping for night 3! At the very least Sorrit should be whacking Osseric's BP, and if Vengy figures out that the likeliest thing is Karosis moving to LY then he'll whack down that BP, too (or, er, maybe not... heal and all... damn). And also hopefully Galain can make use of having just learned about Okaros. Best thing to do there would be to send a message via Osseric and Thyrllan for Rashan to kill him while Osseric suppresses Tian Shui to guard the Heal.
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Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:20 PM

Barghast, on 04 October 2011 - 06:44 PM, said:

I'll stay where I am for now.

Defender of the Realm: heal my boss, Tennes.

I'll muse a bit over Fearsome Reputation.

But D'rek, seeing how I'm Lu Bu Tu (2), can I trade it in for a superawesome Wei Yan halberd decapitation goes through blocks/ guards kill? Pweeze?


Noted, and of course no.

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Sorrit, on 04 October 2011 - 06:55 PM, said:

Move to Yong An


Succeeds - you are now in Yong An.

Sorrit, on 04 October 2011 - 06:55 PM, said:

Provisional Kill Osseric


noted.

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View PostPath-Shaper, on 04 October 2011 - 06:39 PM, said:

A winged shadow descends upon a deserted village. Is it surprised?


Refers to Vengeance/Omtose expecting to assassinate Karosis but the village Karosis was in is now deserted because he's moved to Luo Yang. (which is exactly how the assassin role was supposed to work out - it is deadly to those who stay still long enough for him to strike, which tends to be warlords and emperors)

View PostPath-Shaper, on 04 October 2011 - 06:39 PM, said:

In the ancient capital, a man swallows and chokes on a phoenix. He dies and is born anew, but perhaps there are some who can tell the difference.


refers to twelve taking over the Hood's Path/Yan Liang role from MTS, but was also a deliberate red herring for some sort of recruitment hint. Ancient capital refers to Chang An (capital of the Western Han, but not the Eastern/Later Han) where Hood's Path is, but I knew it would be taken as referring to any of the three kingdom's capitals.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 04 October 2011 - 06:39 PM, said:

The oxen charge against the wall again and again but they cannot find the door handle."


refers to the Ma Chao faction that keep trying to move to Han Zhong but can't find Thyrllan with their kills to let them :p
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Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:26 PM

Hood, on 04 October 2011 - 07:17 PM, said:

move - Luo Yang
Change - to Miliatry Officer



Both succeed. You are now a Military officer in Luo Yang.

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Tennes, on 04 October 2011 - 07:21 PM, said:

Do I get my Illumination results?


You targeted Yong An, and you weren't in Yong An, so you would not receive the results whether it succeeded or failed, only players who were in Yong An at night would.

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Emurlahn, on 04 October 2011 - 07:21 PM, said:

hmmm

well



I have a bad feeling that the "ancient Capital" is Lou Yang
meaning, one of my underlings likely got recruited.


am I going to share this info? hell, no. because the second I do, everyone will immidiately jump tp the conclusion that Sima Yi is part of Xia. and the culture hunt will begin.

i'm considering blood-linking Tia and Kesso.it might make our moves on htread more focused.

teams so far:

Lu: 4

Xia: 4

Yan: 7

Sima: 2

Gongsun:3

Ma:3



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Emurlahn, on 04 October 2011 - 08:59 AM, said:

I am getting a bad feeling.

with all this talk of finders, I expect someone to do a find on me tonight.



hopefully Kesso figures this out and does a shielding find.



^^^This was from before night 2 but Emur has a good strategy here that I'm not sure he or anyone else realizes. In order to Block, you need your action to be in range, which is tricky to be sure of. But if you aren't too interested in the result, you just really want the Block, then you could just find someone you already know, ie Kesso could find Emur just to Block incoming finds to Luo Yang.
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Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:46 PM

Emur, re: Kesso's message (saying Tiam is on their team)

Emurlahn, on 04 October 2011 - 07:30 PM, said:

well, no shit, sherlock.

I was well aware of that since she complimented my bandana on day1 (signalling... gotta love it)

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 10:46 PM

Hey D'rek,

Just a suggestion, but if you add the results of the finds, kills, etc. to the daily summaries it makes it easier to follow what's going on with the NAs. I'm having a hard time keeping track (doing my best to follow how the game's going). Not important, because I'd imagine you have many more urgent things to think about in a game this size. I'd be willing to help out, but I'd be afraid of screwing something up - I don't have the topography of the map down in my head well enough to be able to resolve things without triple/quadruple checking everything.


I did quite like Morgy's post yesterday:

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I'm back after a long week end of too much drinking. I am getting too old to stay out drinking until the early hours of the morning.


For being a faction game we're getting a marvelous amount of information in such a short time.

From where I'm standing Tiamatha does make a lot of sense in focusing on the usurper. To be perfectly honest, the whole talking about role equals role mantra has not been applicable for some time, partially I would think because it is accepted as an axiom in most of our games. It's almost comparable to voting for night at this point. However, I don't like Tiamatha's reaction, which seems a little forced in its attempt to be all "I couldn't care less but your stupidity annoys me". In addition, pointless hostility has never been something I condone. One should always be polite and patient, like the way I always play.

Additionally, the amount of support popping up around Tiamatha and Serc, it would seem highly unlikely that either fit the usurper role, which when all and said and done is the one we should be hunting. As it stands though it's pretty clear that a lynch will be one of the two and as such one needs to make a choice. In my opinion the better one is Serc. Especially for the amount of sympage Serc has received from Barghast two days in a row.

Vote Serc

Sorry this didn't get longer. I haven't really gotten into the game properly, not being able to properly participate until now and all.


That's either nicely done or disproving his own point. I'll bet he'll claim the former. :p


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Posted 05 October 2011 - 03:53 AM

View PostSir Thursday, on 04 October 2011 - 10:46 PM, said:

Hey D'rek,

Just a suggestion, but if you add the results of the finds, kills, etc. to the daily summaries it makes it easier to follow what's going on with the NAs. I'm having a hard time keeping track (doing my best to follow how the game's going). Not important, because I'd imagine you have many more urgent things to think about in a game this size. I'd be willing to help out, but I'd be afraid of screwing something up - I don't have the topography of the map down in my head well enough to be able to resolve things without triple/quadruple checking everything.


Take a look at the "graphic representations" spoilered after each night in the summary posts - only actions that are "in range" are shown, and guarded/blocked actions (haven't had any yet) will be dotted so you can see which succeed and fail.
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Posted 05 October 2011 - 12:01 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 05 October 2011 - 03:53 AM, said:

View PostSir Thursday, on 04 October 2011 - 10:46 PM, said:

Hey D'rek,

Just a suggestion, but if you add the results of the finds, kills, etc. to the daily summaries it makes it easier to follow what's going on with the NAs. I'm having a hard time keeping track (doing my best to follow how the game's going). Not important, because I'd imagine you have many more urgent things to think about in a game this size. I'd be willing to help out, but I'd be afraid of screwing something up - I don't have the topography of the map down in my head well enough to be able to resolve things without triple/quadruple checking everything.


Take a look at the "graphic representations" spoilered after each night in the summary posts - only actions that are "in range" are shown, and guarded/blocked actions (haven't had any yet) will be dotted so you can see which succeed and fail.


Ah yeah, that's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
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Posted 05 October 2011 - 01:32 PM

OK, those diagrams have really helped me visualise how the game is going :p.

The way I see it, the Xia are in pole position if they play competently. They may have members under attack on thread (Emurlahn and Tiamatha are the top two targets at the moment), but their empty borders mean they could quite easily infiltrate Lu or Yan territory if they had the wherewithal to try it. The only downside for them is that the Gongsun rebels are in their base (I can't quite figure out how they got there, because I thought Omtose moved to Xin Du before Korlat moved to Luo Yang on Day 1. Can someone only block another player's movement if he hasn't moved that Day?). But I guess to counter that they've got a lot of people healing their leader.

The Yan are going to suffer because of Sima Yi. Morgy looks switched on and I would back him to pick up at least one more recruit before he's done. Picking up Silanah is a huge bonus because he knows that Barghast is the Yan PM. What happens if Mockra/Meanas is recruited, by the way?

The lover connections are going to be really helpful for the Lu. Provided Thyrllan stays in place, they'll be in good stead for keeping the rebels couped up in Tlan Shui as well. They just need to shore up the defences in Chang An. If I were Osseric, one of my top priorities would be making sure that a Lu player ends up in Chang An. Hopefully after being targetted by Sorrit's Kill attempt tomorrow he'll move there himself. Of course, I could see Sorrit making a stink about how Osseric must be the emperor after hitting his BP tonight...

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 02:09 PM

Ruse, on 05 October 2011 - 04:10 AM, said:

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Illumination - on Night 2, the following alts were in Yong An:

Barghast
Mockra
Ruse
Silanah

Given the voting patterns in Day 2, I would hazard Barghast is most likely of those 3 to be on my team, while the other two are Serc (Yan) people. I see my options as 3:

Conservative: Use a find on Sil/Mockra to confirm this theory.
Gutsy: Keep pushing finds on other targets in hopes of finding the Yan emperor or at least someone in Jiang Xia.
Ballsy: Head to the capital, change to a killer and try to knock off Mockra or Silanah.

What to do, what to do.


Ruse, on 05 October 2011 - 04:12 AM, said:

If I move now (day 3) can I change to a killer Day 3 and use a kill as a night action right away Night 3?


Yes.

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Omtose, on 05 October 2011 - 06:01 AM, said:

I have the sneaky suspicion that Antrahal is either mocking me (he alted me) or is trying to signal me (he alted me). Regardless I think that I might have to kill him. Just to be safe. If I am the last man standing then do I become emperor.


You mean if everyone else in the game dies but you? Sure, why not.

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Barghast, on 05 October 2011 - 08:18 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 04 October 2011 - 06:58 PM, said:

Illumination - on Night 2, the following alts were in Yong An:

Barghast
Mockra
Ruse
Silanah


I assume this is not my ability, considering the name is different, and it does not seem to be a notice as it is too long a message.

This is interesting info. I guess there is an even split between my faction and Lu, considering how I was able to move there, meaning that (at least) 1 of those 3 is on my side.... perhaps even 2 if Gamelon was Yong An based. Unless Serc was the guy that allowed me to move into Yong An, of course... my head starts to hurt.

Seeing how I already submitted my heal on Tennes, I don't want anyone to get the jump on me, and therefore I shall endeavour to block their attempts at info-gathering (and killing).
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Fearsome Reputation: I'd like to block kills and finds tonight, please, D'rek.


Noted

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Mockra, on 05 October 2011 - 09:00 AM, said:

Ok, so what does this tell me? That one or both of Ruse and Silanah are enemy players, and that I have no allies any further north than I am now. This is one crowded location now. I reckon both Silanah and Ruse are likely Lu faction, so what to do.....

They, hopefully, don't know Meanas has moved there, so Meanas can do the healing, because they might know Mockra is there. So:

Night actions:

Meanas: Heal Mockra

Mockra: Kill Ruse

I think there might be a distinct possibility of a duel to come...ah well. By the way, the scenes you've been writing are fantastic.


Thanks! Actions noted.

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Rashan, on 05 October 2011 - 10:38 AM, said:

Multi action post.

Switch to Military Officer


Succeeds - you are now a MO.

Rashan, on 05 October 2011 - 10:38 AM, said:

Kill Okaros, and if lynched kill Emur.


Noted.

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Osseric, on 05 October 2011 - 11:40 AM, said:

Tell me, how many times have I been investigated so far? :p I have a feeling half the players know who I am. I'll start to worry when I'll lose my BP.

suppress Yong An tonight.

Wei Xu is there, but I need someone to be there for it to work. He's not going anywhere, including to Han Zhong, so I don't think his finds so far have had much success :p


Noted

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Telas, on 05 October 2011 - 11:22 AM, said:

Anyways, as you sit up there in SH hanging onto my every word and action it is only proper that I explain what I'm doing.

I went for Silanah because out of all the players she was the one who became most reluctant to vote for Serc once it was revealed that Serc could be a Yan. As she showed less interest in the whole thing when it was assumed that Serc was of the Lu faction it seemed logical that she would be located within, or bordering on Yan land. Ergo the recruit.

Sadly, there's less info to be had now. Another player who acted somewhat within the Silanah mold was Mockra, but for some reason I am loath to try a recruit there. Maybe because Mockra so far seems a little bumbling. Karosis didn't vote day 2, which implies (I think) that he's not a barbarian. Furthermore, I've written in my notes that he's "not voting Serc", referring not to the fact that he didn't vote for Serc but rather that his whole stance at the time gave the impression that voting Serc was not an option. So in that regard he falls within the same category as Silanah. Now, considering the amount of information we've got, this is all guesswork, but at least you can see what I'm basing it on, wrong though it may be.

As for the thread. I have no idea what I'm doing and it shows I think. I'll be connected to the Xia faction at this point I guess, which may or may not be a good thing.


Thanks for sharing, keep it up!

Telas, on 05 October 2011 - 01:21 PM, said:

Gah, I was hoping Silanah would provide me with some sort of information when logging on. If she'd known someone else in the same area as her for instance. Ah well.


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Silanah, on 05 October 2011 - 12:48 PM, said:

Kill Ruse


Noted

(Really a bad move, Sil should be pointing out potential recruit targets to Sima Yi, not killing them!)

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Kaschan, on 05 October 2011 - 01:57 PM, said:

Kill Rashan tonight


Noted.

(ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh this is getting GOOOOOD)

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Ruse, on 05 October 2011 - 02:01 PM, said:

Oh no...so tempting.

Problem is, my history with this sort of ballsy move isn't good - even single-handedly losing some games by being bold like that.

Leaning towards working one more find, and then doing the move/kill combo tomorrow. Probably confirm that Barghast is on my team (I hope so, I like his posting - pretty smart IMO). If not on my team, a good kill for the same reason.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 03:04 PM

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 October 2011 - 02:49 PM, said:

Day 3 Action

Move to Han Zhong

probably waited too late, or something equally counterproductive


Fails, still in Tian Shui
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Posted 05 October 2011 - 03:21 PM

Ruse, on 05 October 2011 - 03:18 PM, said:

Wei Xu would sleep on it.

I'll put a conservative provisional in just in case, and see how I feel in the morning.

The wiki and past info doesn't really answer "what would wei xu do", although I had forgotten that I have actually PLAYED this character before. :p If the past is any indication, I would continue to play him as a finder.

I'm a conservative player by nature, and two massive blunders on the rare occasions I've played aggressively have kept me that way for the most part.

Right now though, I'm leaning towards trying to kill. (Silanah specifically) Maybe three times is the charm and I might give our team a better chance to pull this off.

It can't hurt to have another 6 hours of posts to sift through before deciding for realz though, so I'm off to bed for now.



Ruse, on 05 October 2011 - 03:19 PM, said:

Prov

Find Barghast


Noted.
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Posted 05 October 2011 - 05:04 PM

Sorrit, on 05 October 2011 - 04:18 PM, said:

Right now I think most players are trying to play for their own faction rather than find the Usurper, I don't mind lynching Tiamatha because I think he is not in my faction, Tennes has had no heat although he did say he'll participate a lot more Wednesday which could see him scrutinized tomorrow as the low posters may be looked at. In terms of play I don't want to draw too much attention my way and I know if I go post crazy I will stand out like Gamelon did, and like Tiamatha is doing. So i'm trying to contribute and lynch but as little as possible. I also hope my kill on Osseric goes through tonight, the sneaky little fucker needs to die, he has been rather kind to me on thread and I don't like it. I do have my plans, in the daytime I have been here at all hours, I can comment at anytime yet I choose not too, although sometimes i'm itching to write something controversial. I guess many of us like this game behind the scenes. If we could off Tapper that would be great, Osseric could have moved since my find so if I don't kill him tonight and my emperor doesn't move i'll whisper to Tennes tomorrow, if he does move then I'll have to move with him therefore eliminating my chance at whisper/notice.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 05:17 PM

Tennes, on 05 October 2011 - 04:26 PM, said:

Ok ... thought I would try. Though if he did follow my team after his transformation..I might argue that my team was doomed from the start, as Yan would be prime picking grounds for him.


What, Xia and Lu somehow aren't prime picking grounds for him? Conversely, what if he was a Yan high official, but because your troops are loyal to you he was only able to recruit non-Yan? Or maybe he's in a hidden location in the middle of the hexagon where he can do actions on everywhere but the barbarian lands. Also he poops unicorns.

Tennes, on 05 October 2011 - 04:26 PM, said:

Provisional:

Illumination

Yong An


Noted

Tennes, on 05 October 2011 - 04:29 PM, said:

Dammit...Serc being on my Team really threw me. I didn't see that coming. Plans must be modified!


But sir! Our plans are already in motion! Modifying the plans at this late juncture could cause the scumdar to implode!


Telas, on 05 October 2011 - 04:57 PM, said:

Did I mention I am thoroughly enjoying the added complexity provided by the whole location system?


No, I don't believe you did, and if serious then YAAAAYYY!!!

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 05:56 PM

Okaros, on 05 October 2011 - 05:35 PM, said:

Brought my laptop to school, but I won't be able to take into the next class (the fan is broken; it makes an embarrassing amount of noise). So I'd like to put down a provisional in case of emergency.

Heals myself, night 3 action I am so very selfish.

I would also like to move to Han Zhong, or at least try to (not like many people are succeeding

day 3 action, Move to Han Zhong.


Heal noted.

Move fails - you stay in Tian Shui

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Galain, on 05 October 2011 - 05:53 PM, said:

Provisional: Find Hood's Path

Augment Thyrllan


Noted
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Posted 05 October 2011 - 07:50 PM

Telas, on 05 October 2011 - 06:25 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 05 October 2011 - 05:18 PM, said:

Telas, on 05 October 2011 - 04:57 PM, said:

Did I mention I am thoroughly enjoying the added complexity provided by the whole location system?


No, I don't believe you did, and if serious then YAAAAYYY!!!


No, I'm serious. The added strategy of movement is really neat. It remains to be seen how it holds up of course, but as of now it's really fun. That thing with the deserted village for instance was quite neat.


Well then thank you!

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Sheltatha Lore, on 05 October 2011 - 06:03 PM, said:

Let me out of here!!! I must kill


Maybe you'll be able to tomorrow when you get your nest kill [/optimism]

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Hood, on 05 October 2011 - 06:50 PM, said:

I think that the alt pictures are clues in themselves. I think Barghast and Tennes must be either Ma Choa or GongSun Zan members. If I'm right I hope I pick the correct one to attack.


Provisional- Heal Tiamatha, if lynched Kill Barghast


There haven't been nearly enough female characters in the games so far/char thread for that to be true...

Action noted.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 08:55 PM

Rashan, on 05 October 2011 - 08:39 PM, said:

Move to Tlan Shui


Succeeds - you are now in Tian Shui

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Barghast, on 05 October 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

Dear Tiam,

Whoever you are, may I give you my congratulations on keeping the whole thread focused on you for as long as you did.
I haven't alted you (I've given up on doing that), but I want you to know that I think your performance was good. You're capable of making the thread listen to you. Assuming you have a role that is not Jester-like, it really is a pity you dcided to use the tone you did as with less condescending posting, a bit more carrot and honey and a whole lot less of a stick and an added whiff of a weaselly survival instinct, you'd have had a chance of running the thread for a few days. You could have pointed people in any direction you like and they'd given thought to it and perhaps follow it up - and then, do it again, and again, because whomever would be lynched as a result, the majority of players would have been happy with the result.

Yet, twice, you didn't grasp that opportunity. When you made your case on me (for missing a single word, no less - in a faction game, where the only important slip is the slip that gives away your faction, in a game where posts pile up at a rate we haven't seen for a long time), you were too late and the only target around. Pity, because it never forced me to spar with you, which I would have enjoyed - and might have lost.

It really is a sad thing, and personally, I think people were so annoyed with your tone that they did indeed vote you, and damned the consequences: as a result, I guess a large part of Lu, Yan and the warlords are outed as being in that camp (and by extension, the Xia as well as non-voters), assuming you are Xia, of course, so your lynch definately has an effect. Now, one last word. You leashed out at me, fair enough. All in the game, and the case wasn't actually that bad - would have gotten me lynched day 1, now I'll be able to present it as your last gasp and an inability to focus anywhere but the guy you butted heads with, a simple attempt to drag me with you. I may actually get away with it, especially once people focus on Emurlahn again. Which is a good thing for my faction.

But to ask a question of my own: did you notice how I didn't vote you at all on day 3 (at the least until the time of writing), when I have been on several times, having had the opportunity several times, and being the main guy pushing your lynch on day 2, before switching to Serc? I don't think you did, or you knew I am not on your faction, in which case, you were someone fairly important who knew his own faction so you could disregard maneuvering on thread, or you've done a find on me, which is imho impossible if you are in Xia.

If you didn't notice: when you are collecting a shit storm of votes and the guy who you pick on and who picks on you in previous days does not vote you, you *might* have concluded I was on your side after you were revealed as a Xia, and if not, you might have tried to coerce me. Pity you missed it (at least at the time of writing), I just couldn't credibly make a 180 degree in play direction or I might even have defended you, since I don't want to be a guy who has voted for Serc convinced he's a Lu, and now voting you, convinced you're Xia, thereby outing myself as a Yan (or warlord).

Of course, now you know I tried to dupe you, but next time, don't bite the hand that doesn't try to kill you (as hard as some others do) :p

Cheers,

- Tapper, a weaselly clungy pearl of a player to the bitter (or sweet) end.

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 05 October 2011 - 09:10 PM

Okay, time for some lover convos!!!

Here's Gonsgsun Zan (Karosis) and Zhao Yun (Korlat) from day 1 to now:


Karosis, on 29 September 2011 - 07:35 AM, said:

i need to make a poop



Karosis, on 01 October 2011 - 10:48 AM, said:

alright...im finally here and able to put effort in.

so... korlat... where are you situated geographically..

apparently (i just found out because i only just read the game rules :p) we are supposed to move across the map and it occurs to me that since we can talk we should be coordinating our movements accordingly,


...no? :p


-dkt



Korlat, on 01 October 2011 - 05:04 PM, said:

Sorry to hear things haven't been great with you, I hope you're holding up as well as you can.

Yeah I think that is a good idea, I have moved to Luo Yang and received a one time BP, my thoughts were to next move either to Chang An or He Fei, the good thing about Chang An is it is on the border of the Lu's and they are already down a player so more chance to NK one of them, although by now they may have moved quite a bit so i'm not sure, it depends on where people are moving i suppose because He Fei is on the Yan's border and they seem like they'd be the largest faction at the moment so I suppose getting into their territory would have advantages as well.



-Mott



Karosis, on 02 October 2011 - 09:23 AM, said:

ok im going to try and move to Luo Yang now.

i think we need to move together as there is an advantage to being on the same place i think.

im not too sure how actions work i belive if i heal you then we are all covered or something...its rather complicated innit?



Karosis, on 02 October 2011 - 09:25 AM, said:

i missed the chance to move yesterday.
i dunno might be best for you to wait for me so that we can synchronize our jumps so we stay together?



Korlat, on 03 October 2011 - 10:55 AM, said:

Very complicated hahah. I'll not get a chance to post on thread till later but this notice was circulated in my area 'It's in the fifth.
大禹治水 297/10-35'



I think the chinese means Dayu and it has something to do with a legendary monarch of the Xia dynasty, the number bit at the end seemed to equate -5.3 but I am baffled past this.


Also Night one I attempted to kill Sheltatha Lore, which obviously failed so either she was being guarded or, possibly she was in a non adjacent location, I had submitted my move before my night action. Shall post later today.



Karosis, on 05 October 2011 - 09:33 AM, said:

You still in luo Yang korlat?



Karosis, on 05 October 2011 - 09:38 AM, said:

oh yea....and the 大禹治水 297/10-35'


numbers could be dates perhap?

between years 210-235 or something?



Korlat, on 05 October 2011 - 03:25 PM, said:

Yeah I am, I'm awaiting orders for our next move Posted Image

Sorry i've been a bit missing the last day, fell asleep trying to review the thread.

It could be yeah, never thought of that.

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 05 October 2011 - 09:15 PM

and here's Zhang Xiu (Osseric) and Jia Xu (Galain). They can only talk when osseric is in Han Zhong, which so far has been always:

Path-Shaper, on 28 September 2011 - 06:48 PM, said:

You may communicate off-thread in this PM convo (and only in this PM convo).

You may only communicate while you are both in Han Zhong. As soon as one of you leaves Han Zhong I will post here indicating so, after which point absolutely no posts whatsoever are allowed until I declare you are both in Han Zhong once again.

You are currently both in Han Zhong and may post.



Osseric, on 29 September 2011 - 07:07 AM, said:

Are you f-ing kidding me?

I was promised a simple role!!!

Hi Galain, this is JA and I'm soiling my underpants right now. I'll have to read the rules a few more time before I make an ass of myself and my team.



Osseric, on 29 September 2011 - 07:49 AM, said:

Well, whenever I'm a leader at a faction game, my strategy is always to stand out, for better or worse :p it's a good place to hide, and getting votes and attacks will clarify for my team who's not with us.

Sadly, it has back-fired miserably a few times...

For now, I'm thinking of not moving, and blocking Tlan Shui. The warlords start from the edges, if I understood, so there's a chance he's there tonight.

What do you think Galain, does that make sense? I have to read again the rules for actions and moving, it's quite a lot to assimilate at once.



Galain, on 29 September 2011 - 08:07 AM, said:

I don't have the ability to move, so it might be best if you stayed put, so that we could communicate. I'm thinking of making my first action a Find. For the record: I'm the Prime Minister. I have the option of Finding, Guarding, or Healing each Night. I'm old, so I can't move.

In all honesty, I just don't see that the complex rules should govern our behavior so early in the game. We don't know who's located where, or who might be taking what action, so it's pointless to worry about blocking or Duels or whatever else. That'll come into play later - it's just not worth worrying about so early, when everyone's anonymous. Just hit whoever with whatever action you feel is appropriate.

I'll definitely distance myself on the Gamelon vote and wait a bit - I don't think it's a bad idea, the guy's a walking dead man already, this early on Day One. Probably an intentional sabotage signal by Emur, but I'm up for an easy lynch. And Gamelon is being pretty defensive about it. I'll probably do a Find on Meanas.



Galain, on 29 September 2011 - 08:12 AM, said:

Note: I have no idea if I'm breaking rules by quoting a PM from the mod in off-thread communications, but it would seem silly to restrict the information we pass along to each other, if we already can talk.

So, my other ability:

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Augment - Each night you may target a player. If they are a member of the Lu faction, any standard Night Actions they perform that night cannot be Blocked. You may not target yourself.


Make of that what you will. It's essentially an anti-Guard, and might come in hand if you have a Kill - I can Heal you, and you can NK without worrying about being Guarded. But that's for much later, I think.



Osseric, on 29 September 2011 - 08:24 AM, said:

I voted Gamelon to be active and see what happens.

Also, if something happens to me, with the CF it will put pressure on Emurlahn as if I defended him or something.
I'm a bit afraid that some from our team (they all know me I think) will think that Emurlahn migth be my prime minister, but I hope they won't think I could be so obvious. In any case, that's a minor concern for now.



Osseric, on 29 September 2011 - 08:48 AM, said:

As for my actions, I'm only some sort of uber-guard, i.e. I target a location, and if there is at least one of our team there, everyone is blocked at that place.

I also know where everyone from our faction is, I'm wondering if the mods will allow me to share this with Galain so we can do some planning?



Osseric, on 29 September 2011 - 09:29 AM, said:

I put the post "Is Osseric bored and lonely?" as a way to give the opportunity for at least one of our team to signal me in a way that should be reasonably subtle and safe.

Let's see if anyone answers that post.



Path-Shaper, on 29 September 2011 - 11:48 AM, said:

Quoting PMs is allowed, sharing information is allowed, the only thing you can't do is claim some information is from PS or not from PS, and I'm pretty lax about that in the off-thread convo anyways.



Osseric, on 29 September 2011 - 12:16 PM, said:

Hmm, normally when I have my raise hell/leader strategy, I know who are my minions.

I dare hope Gamelon is not :p



Osseric, on 29 September 2011 - 01:22 PM, said:

Gamelon is really getting a lot of heat, more than his posts should deserve. I'm wondering if he didn't hit an Emperor with his Serc-Hood's Path-Emurlahn votes.

Of the three, if this is the case, I would think Hood's Path.



Osseric, on 30 September 2011 - 06:12 AM, said:

Galain, are you around?



Galain, on 30 September 2011 - 06:18 AM, said:

Yeah, but not for much longer.

I'm not sold on Serc's voting against Gamelon. Especially how he pulled his vote, and then put it back on. It felt a lot like someone who realized his team-mate was inevitably going to be lynched, so put in a late vote. Then realized maybe it wasn't inevitable, so pulled the vote in the hopes of a no-lynch. Then saw it was inevitable, and put the vote back on to gain cred and distance by being the hammer.

That whole group stinks - Meanas, Emurlahn, Serc, and Gamelon. I suspect two or more are on the same team, and know it.



Osseric, on 30 September 2011 - 08:18 AM, said:

I agree, let's just hope they are not with us :p Although the only one they should know about is me, I think, so if the signaling and distancing is true, it should not be a problem.

Maybe you can state your case on Serc on thread at some point, after the CF for Gamelon.



Osseric, on 30 September 2011 - 12:33 PM, said:

Well, I started to push it a bit on Serc.

If Serc and/or Emurlahn is also Lu Dinasty, I'm going to start poppin' pills.



Galain, on 30 September 2011 - 05:48 PM, said:

Yeah, that was unfortunate. Good thing the teams are fairly large.

I think Serc didn't know whether or not Gamelon was on his team, thus the voting-unvoting-voting thing that looked suspicious to me, especially so late in the Day.

I did a Find on Meanas last Night, but got no result. Given the complexity of the rules, who knows what may have stopped it from going through, could be a number of things.



Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 07:02 AM, said:

What happened yesterday:

1) Gamelon voted Emurlahn on the first serious vote of the game I think
2) Gamelon receives a world of pain
3) Gamelon ends up lynched

1) Meneas attacks Emurlahn because of a come in ga,me
2) Emurlahn spazzes and leaves
3) A few players point out that , and m are close on the keyboard
4) Emurlahn comes back and says that , and m are close on the keyboard

1) Gamelon says he voted Emurlahn because his civil servant comment was so obvious it must have been a lame attempt by a powerful role to sound like a smaller one
2) ???
3) A current version, repeated by many players, is that Gamelon voted Emurlahn because he thought he (Emur) was a civil servant, thus if Gamelon is also a civil servant, not in his team.

I think it might be Emurlahn who is a leader of a faction. I'll check if the comma people are the same as the civil servant ones.



Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 07:06 AM, said:

Well, that's interesting, I have a new off-thread communication channel with Thyrllan.

He claims it was his action and that he is with us. I'm a bit paranoid, I'm not sure if there's something fishy going on, but just in case don't attack him for now!

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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