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Galain, on 01 October 2011 - 07:20 AM, said:

That's ... odd. I'm not sure if I trust it, it's exactly the sort of disinformation that I'd set up if I was D'rek - off-thread lies are a lovely twist, if you stop and think about it.

And I think going after Serc is a decent idea - if he's Lu I'll be pissed, but I have a strong feeling he just couldn't make up his mind if Gamelon was on his team or not, and tried to play it safe with flailing around vote-switching. A real noob move, to try to pull a hammer-set-up vote to "give him a chance to speak up," which everyone should recognize as distancing so close to the end of Day.

Oh, and I'm Kurt, I forgot to mention. That should explain why I'm slow-playing so early. I never start off fast, and this game beginning caught me completely by surprise, I wasn't expecting it for a few more days. Guess I should've checked the sign-up thread more often.

Don't worry about being aggressive - it's great having you out there making waves. I can always Heal you if you start taking heat.

Galain, on 01 October 2011 - 07:30 AM, said:

Also, if you're allowed to, go ahead and quote me Thyrllan's entire PM. I want to pick over it, and see how it sounds out.

Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 07:37 AM, said:

Well, besides the original post where he says something like "hello my emperor", I asked him his Chinese name and he just told me this:
***


Lady Zou, so it's not all man. You know the Chinese names of those who are in your team, right?

I can make and break new lover connections each night, and I can have two. And I can send secret messages to non Lu players. But I don't get to find out if they go through or not.

You're the only player that I know is on my team, and I haven't played mafia much, so I figured you'd be a good start. And presumably it's safe for me to tell you this? Not that you'd likely tell me if it wasn't. Argh.


***


Err, I don't see a lady Zou in the names of the report I get from PS with the locations. I'll ask him where he is currently.

Galain, on 01 October 2011 - 07:42 AM, said:

Uh, yeah, something doesn't feel entirely right here. I'll actually be happy if he turns out fake, because that's the sort of twistedness this game deserves. But having a three-person voting block would be damned nice.

On the flip side ... it's way too convenient, as he can pass along to you at some point the names of more Lu players, either in off-thread comms or in a pre-arranged code in the open. If he seems legit, try that out. We might be able to tie five or six of us together knowingly ... if it's not a fake setup.

EDIT: While you still have the connection, pass him a code by which he can identify Lu players. Something he can write in a post while responding to them, perhaps. If someone gets lynched or killed and isn't who Thyrllan claimed he was, we can work from that.

Galain, on 01 October 2011 - 07:46 AM, said:

OK, I can't shut up.

Give him this as a code:

Once you and him are no longer in communication, he can identify Lu players by responding in thread to them with a series of phrases, a different one for each. They should be innocuous phrases, to start his response:

1. "For what it's worth,"
2. "Well, in my opinion,"
3. "I'm not really certain,"
4. "I see what you mean."

I don't think we'll get more than four, and he should use them in that order so that we'll be watching for them.

Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 07:48 AM, said:

Just a question:

My role PM says

Reports from the Field - Every Dawn you receive the role names and locations of all Lu Dynasty Prime Ministers, Civil Officials and Military Officers.


Right now I got three names/location, you and two more. I got four on day 1 before Gamelon was lynched. Is it possible that we have additional members in our team which are not CO/MO?

Galain, on 01 October 2011 - 07:52 AM, said:

Seems likely. We've probably got one or two Roleless peasant types, given the size of the game, even with so many factions. I just hope we have another CO/MO to hand out some kills - this early in such a large game, random NKs are a good idea.

Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 07:57 AM, said:

Right now we have two CO/MO left:

Jia Xu is in Han Zhong
Zhuge Jin is in Han Zhong
Wei Xu is in Yong An


One of them moved with us, I think he might want to switch from CO to MO or vice-versa.


I'll pass your idea to Thyrllan

Galain, on 01 October 2011 - 08:02 AM, said:

Sounds good, but but it's definitely better to have MOs than COs, as I can cover the Guards and Finds and whatnot. We need killers early, when random targeting can be useful in a large game. Finds and Guards are better later.

And I'm out for the real-life night ...

Osseric, on 03 October 2011 - 05:20 AM, said:

Wow, it seems that Kessobahn is laying it a bit thick. Calling my post marvelous stuff then saying he's not signaling, I think we can safely assume he's signaling.

Galain, on 03 October 2011 - 06:23 AM, said:

Yeah, and I'm starting to wonder about Tiamatha. I say just ignore Kesso on the signalling front. There's just no way to tell, and we don't want to gamble on an assumption.

I should probably start posting at some point ...

Galain, on 03 October 2011 - 08:12 AM, said:

A quick note: It seems really unlikely that Serc is on our team, now that I really think about it. I'm not sure if I buy the signalling ... and what are the odds that so many of us know each other? Thyrllan knows you and can communicate with you (for the moment), I know you and can communicate with you in an unlimited fashion, and we can coordinate with Thyrllan to identify more of our team. How likely is it that yet another player on our team knows a team-mate? That's a whole lot of intra-team knowledge.

I'm not saying it's impossible ... but having yet another person on our team know a team-mate, and not just their Emperor (I'm assuming everyone knows who you are), is pretty unlikely.

Also, I don't know if you can still communicate with him, but you should find out how Thyrllan can explain how he chooses who to communicate with.

Osseric, on 03 October 2011 - 09:20 AM, said:

I agree about Serc, he's a good lynch target for us. Gamelon know about me, I fail to see why he would know about someone else. The role PM for civil officier is kinda explained in the OP and there's no mention of knowing anyone else.

Basically Thyrllan can pair with anyone, he just has to send the mods the alt he wants to pair with (he can have only 2 pairs going on at the same time, he can sever them if he wants). Even if they're in the other team apparently. He can also send anonymous messages, one per day, to the alt of his choice.

It's quite of an interesting role. I don't see any reason to think he's lying (he started the convo by saying "hello my Emperor" so I doubt he would be so lucky). Still, with the recruitment and such, I didn't tell him who you were in case.

In the WE we came up with a fun way to use his powers: he will send today a message to someone that says "Good job staying low so far. I have the ability to pair my followers for a day, I'll pair you with Thyrllan tomorrow". Then Thyrllan will ask to be paired with the same person, and try to act all innocent and confused and see if he can get that other person to reveal information on his Emperor.

It's not fool-proof but we think it's better than just pairing and say "yo wassap? Who's your boss?"

Osseric, on 03 October 2011 - 10:11 AM, said:

There's really something bugging me about Tiamantha. I'm playing now like I would if I was not an Emperor, I guess the best way to play being one.

I just hope that she's not with us also that "£$& Gamelon thing freaked me out. If she is I think the rest of my team will vote me off next just for being a liability

Osseric, on 03 October 2011 - 07:20 PM, said:

Man I'm really nasty with Tiam...

I would just like to keep Serc around longer, it's good to have him spotted as the Emperor

Galain, on 04 October 2011 - 03:21 AM, said:

Note that Kesso just pointed out that Serc is fairly likely lying about his reveal, first claiming that he thinks Tiamath is the Usurper, and then revealing the wrong name for the Usurper as his find. I don't see any point in keeping him around, especially if he's an Emperor. I'll wait to drop the hammer, though.

Also, did you get a note saying that Rashan is Zh-J? It's from P-S, so I'm not sure if it's disinformation or not. I'm inclined to simply ignore it.

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Osseric, on 04 October 2011 - 06:34 AM, said:

I did get it. Not sure either what to make of it though.

Osseric, on 04 October 2011 - 06:54 AM, said:

OK, I REALLY don't want Serc to be with us. No way he can be saved now.

FUCK

Galain, on 04 October 2011 - 07:14 AM, said:

That reveal on their part wasn't particularly well handled. The gaffe with the names still has me thinking it's fake.

I'm putting a Find in on Okaros, just as a random shot. No one really stands out as needing to be investigated - or, rather, the obvious ones probably are already being Found, and I'll be blocked. I've got a power called Augment which I can use on a team-mate, which means their NAs can't be blocked, and I'm using it on Thyrllan to ensure his Find goes through, since I don't know what your actions are.

Osseric, on 04 October 2011 - 07:24 AM, said:

Sorry i never told you.

My main action is that i select a site, and if someone from Lu is there, everyone there gets guarded.

It can't be blocked, so don't worry about helping me.

I also have an intact bulletproof, so if you can do it at the same time you can protect Thyrllan instead

Osseric, on 04 October 2011 - 07:52 AM, said:

Last night i blocked where we are.

This morning i found out that one of our two CO came here too, that means he came yesterday and so was blocked too, right?

The second CO we have was this morning in Yon Am, so far from Xia territory. I think Serc is a finder of the third empire.

Osseric, on 04 October 2011 - 07:53 AM, said:

Sorry i mean Yong An. Not good with chinese names

Galain, on 04 October 2011 - 08:02 AM, said:

Uh, if you Guard where I'm at - the same place as you - my Finds don't work ...

Osseric, on 04 October 2011 - 08:23 AM, said:

Yes, sorry, tonight i'm guarding Jiang Xia, in case our guy moved there today.

I'm having some strtegic issues in this game, it my first Rotk and there's a lot i don't get or took me time to assimilate

Osseric, on 04 October 2011 - 09:10 AM, said:

By the way, did you see the Notice rule?

It seems one can send a message to all players in the same Location. We know one of our co came here and is with us. Could it come from him?

Osseric, on 04 October 2011 - 09:13 AM, said:

The only zh j i see is zhang ji in the Ma Chao faction description, but who the hell is that?

Osseric, on 04 October 2011 - 09:20 AM, said:

Ah, zhang ji is Xiu. Hmmm.

Osseric, on 04 October 2011 - 12:46 PM, said:

One of these days, make a find on Karosis. I always like to know what team dktorode is in

Galain, on 04 October 2011 - 06:48 PM, said:

Find result: Okaros is Ma Chao, of Ma Chao's faction. So, we know a faction leader. If we've got NKs, there's a target.

Also, Barghast just put out a "theory" that Emperor's have a blanket guard on a location. That's an awful fucking accurate random guess ... which means it isn't a guess. He's either a PM or an Emperor, but only other PMs and Emperors would likely catch that.

Osseric, on 04 October 2011 - 06:53 PM, said:

good job

Osseric, on 04 October 2011 - 06:56 PM, said:

Should we send a Notice? We have a CO still here with us

Osseric, on 05 October 2011 - 04:59 AM, said:

Thyrllan paired with Rashan and he is the first message he received from him :

Hey Thyrllan, so what are you? I am currently a Lu Civil Officer in Han Zhong, present with our emperor Osseric. I can switch today to kill mode as a result if you think it is a good idea. Oh, and if you haven't guessed yet, I'm Gust Hubb . Nice meeting you love.


Well, either we found the CO that moved with us, or he's got way too much information


I think we should play along, and ask him to become MO and vig Okaros for all he gets.

Osseric, on 05 October 2011 - 05:07 AM, said:

I think the faction is taking shape.

You, me, Thyrllan and Rashan, we miss only the MO in Yong An (and maybe someone else? not impossible but since we lost Gamelon I'm not certain we would be more than 6 to start with)

And we can basically all talk to each other off-thread.

Galain, on 05 October 2011 - 05:21 AM, said:

I'm not entirely sure I trust the Rashan business ... but I don't entirely discount it. Don't block our location, I'll go ahead and Find on him next - and tell Thyrllan if you still can, to not Find on Rashan. Pick someone like Meanas or Barghast, especially the latter since I'm pretty sure he's an Emperor or PM. I'll augment him so he can't be blocked. If he's an MO, NK Okaros or someone random, if only to use up possible BPs.

In the meantime, I've got to figure out something to say in thread - I'm running way too far below the radar, but everyone else is saying all the interesting stuff, and I can't think of anything to add yet.

Osseric, on 05 October 2011 - 05:28 AM, said:

Actually I don't think Thyrllan can find, he's not a MO, he's a lover. He can choose people to communicate off-thread with. We devised a plan on how he could approach an unknown in a way to make him reveal information, and it seems to have worked with Rashan

For Rashan, if he's not honest, he already knows way too much about me, so whatever damage is already done. I will ask Thyrllan to ask Rashan to become MO and vig Okaros, who should be stuck close to us. Even if Rashan is not honest, giving him that information doesn't hurt us.

Osseric, on 05 October 2011 - 07:04 AM, said:

Actually, I'm such an ass. I realized that the Lu CO which I know moved to Han Zhong is called Zhuge Jin. So the Notice came from Rashan.

Major facepalm

I assumed it meant that someone was telling us that Rashan is Zhang Ji, which is the other name for Xiu. It was actually Rashan telling us who he is.

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Thyrllan's lover bond with Osseric, started Night 1:

Thyrllan, on 30 September 2011 - 09:21 PM, said:

Oh goody.

Hello lover

Osseric, on 30 September 2011 - 09:23 PM, said:

Err...

Was that an action from you or did it happen by itself?

Not that I don't find you sexy and all...

Thyrllan, on 30 September 2011 - 09:46 PM, said:

Action from me, oh Emperor mine

Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 07:04 AM, said:

Out of curiosity, what is your (Chinese) name? And do you have other possible actions that don't involve rubbing fu manchus in the dark?

Thyrllan, on 01 October 2011 - 07:32 AM, said:

Lady Zou, so it's not all man. You know the Chinese names of those who are in your team, right?

I can make and break new lover connections each night, and I can have two. And I can send secret messages to non Lu players. But I don't get to find out if they go through or not.

You're the only player that I know is on my team, and I haven't played mafia much, so I figured you'd be a good start. And presumably it's safe for me to tell you this? Not that you'd likely tell me if it wasn't. Argh.

Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 07:39 AM, said:

Sorry, lots of information for me to assimilate just another detail if you don't mind:

Where are you currently? (I mean in the game, which city?)

Thyrllan, on 01 October 2011 - 07:48 AM, said:

Tian Shui

Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 07:55 AM, said:

Well, I guess I'll trust you for now.

The problem I have is that I indeed know the names and locations of those on my team, and you're not there

But then I realized that it says that I know the names and locations of the Civil Officers/Military Officers of my team, which means that it is possible, I just didn't know my team was bigger than I knew...

Anyways, sorry for the paranoia, but for now I'll trust you. I know the alt of the Prime Minister, but I'll keep this information for now. He's not under any pressure right now, if he ever does I'll tell you. Please tell me in advance if you ever plan to cut the lover bond.

I don't know the alt of anyone else in the team, as you might have guessed from my attacks on Gamelon

Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 07:59 AM, said:

The PM and I came up with an idea on how you could help us.

Your lover bonds, do they only work with members of the Lu faction? If so, how does it work, you give a name, and if it's Lu, it succeeds, otherwise it fails?

Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 08:13 AM, said:

I'm Jump Around by the way

Thyrllan, on 01 October 2011 - 08:25 AM, said:

Really? Ooh I am special then. Or maybe there are more people in our team... The thing with Gamelon was unfortunate

Isn't paranoia fun? I've been panicking slightly about telling you the details of my role and I know you're on my team.

I'll definitely let you know if I need to cut the bond.

Let me know if you have any ideas for the secret messages, there's an opportunity to create havoc there, I think.

The lover bonds can be formed with anyone at all. I don't know if they're affected by where I am on the map, but nothing was said about that so I don't think so.

I'm King Lear

Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 08:44 AM, said:

Well, interesting.

The fact that you could pair with me then does not guarantee you're with me but you started by saying "my emperor", either you're as lucky as you are ballsy, I think I can trust you.

The problem I have is that there's so many unknowns in this game, including some recruiting apparently, so you'll excuse me if I try to figure out how much information I can share.

In any case, my strategy for now is not about lynching a particular target or faction, anyone will do, as long as they are not Lu I'm happy. I've been trying to be quite active in order to attract some heat and/or votes, or at least to give a chance for my team to see how others interact with me. I hate not knowing who is with me.

Your role is interesting, I'll try to think if there is a way to use it well. You obviously can't pair with someone and say "yo, what's your faction?". Have you given some thoughts about the kind of things you can do with your power?

Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 08:47 AM, said:

I can share some thoughts that I don't feel like putting on thread:

What happened yesterday:

1) Gamelon voted Emurlahn on the first serious vote of the game I think
2) Gamelon receives a world of pain
3) Gamelon ends up lynched

1) Meneas attacks Emurlahn because of a come in ga,me
2) Emurlahn spazzes and leaves
3) A few players point out that , and m are close on the keyboard
4) Emurlahn comes back and says that , and m are close on the keyboard

1) Gamelon says he voted Emurlahn because his civil servant comment was so obvious it must have been a lame attempt by a powerful role to sound like a smaller one
2) ???
3) A current version, repeated by many players, is that Gamelon voted Emurlahn because he thought he (Emur) was a civil servant, thus if Gamelon is also a civil servant, not in his team.

I think it might be Emurlahn who is a leader of a faction.
It could be funny for you to pair with him and start with "Hello boss" like you did with me. However, if he's not a leader, or if the Warlords know all their followers, you might end up in a tight spot

Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 08:54 AM, said:

Also, when you send a message to a non-Lu player, do they know it comes from you? (i.e. what does "secret" mean?)

If not it could be a good way to mess with their minds
"This is your Leader speaking, good job so far. If you can kill, target XX"

Thyrllan, on 01 October 2011 - 09:59 AM, said:

That's true. I don't mind if you're a bit cagey about telling me stuff, I'm just glad to have someone to talk to I figured you wouldn't want to tell me too much in case of recruiting.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels a wee bit lost. I know I need to be more active than I am else I'm liable to get lynched for not posting, though there's so many of us I'll be all right for now. I wish I knew if there were other Lover roles like mine. Because that would make a difference to the Forgeries I can do.

I think the Forgeries are going to depend what's happening in the game. Because they're anonymous I can say anything, except that the message is from PS, and that's a fair bit of leeway.

I've been trying to think of ways to use them, but like I said, I haven't really played much. The real problem the Forgeries is making them believable. And giving them some sort of authority. Although, given the nature of Mafia, just a suggestion can be enough to cause trouble. So I figured that's worth thinking about at least. Other than that I'm adopting a wait and see approach I guess. And hoping to pick your brains

If I can get a good educated guess at who someone is, I can probably try and wing it as a sympathetic partner for other people. Just a bit of a problem if I get it wrong...

Thyrllan, on 01 October 2011 - 11:03 AM, said:

Ooops just got your other two messages. The other thing I thought of was that I can do a Lover's Bond with other team members who may not know about us. But that will involve you telling me who they are. That's assuming you can't contact them. On the other hand, if we have the usurper in our team, I put distance between him and you. But I doubt it'll be helpful if he knows who I am either.

Pairing with Em might be an idea actually. Maybe it might be worth seeing what comes out of the next day and keep an eye on him and then see. Though if he does have a large role wouldn't he have been better off trying to make it look as if he had non at all.

The messages come from PS, and I can say anything because there's no indication of who it's from. So potentially I could say exactly what you suggested I can only send one per day. And it only fails if I send it to a Lu player. I'm still trying to figure out if there's a way that I can use that to try and find our players. It's limited to 100 characters, but it won't necessarily look like a notice or anything. How do those work anyway, do you know?

Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 11:55 AM, said:

One idea is that you could send an anonymous message tonight to someone that says:

"Good job staying low so far. I'm sending this message through P.S. I have the possibility to pair my followers for a day, I will put you with Thyrllan tomorrow"

Then ask to pair with the same person. And you can start with saying "Yo X, did you get the same message that I got about us getting paired"?

If he says no, you know he is on our team. If he says yes, try to play it very smooth and see if you can figure out a way of who the leader of the guy's team is. Then disconnect next night and repeat.

That could be a fun mole-like type of play. Like most of my plans, there's a good chance it will back-fire humorously but it could be awesome if it works

Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 11:59 AM, said:

Also, besides you and the PM, to which I can already speak off-thread, I don't know of any other alts in the Lu faction, so I can't really help you.

Thyrllan, on 01 October 2011 - 12:34 PM, said:

I'm quite keen to try that actually. If it backfires, what's the worst that can happen? I'll deny all knowledge. They'd get the same message from PS as you did, wouldn't they? So if worst comes to worst I can be just as confused as they are.

Any suggestions where to start? We've the weekend to think about it, because it won't go through until day starts up again, and I can only pair up at night. And then breaking the pairing takes another night, I think. I'll double check that actually.

Because the night belongs to lovers...

Yeah that's right, I run around inflicting Patti Smith on people.

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cont`d

Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 12:40 PM, said:

I actually didn't get any message from PS about the pairing, only this thread appeared in my messenger folder.

So feel free to try, it could be fun Can you send the anonymous message and pair in the same night?

I would try someone who is not posting too much, maybe they are confused/overwhelmed, they might be talkative once you pair with them. Maybe Mockra or Tellan?

The problem is that those that they low might also have power roles, but odds are low.

Thyrllan, on 01 October 2011 - 01:00 PM, said:

Nah, the messages have to be during the day. But I can do it before the next night, so it's not too much of a gap. Provided they're not able to murder me, I should be safe.
I'll do a read through and see who I want to pick on
I'm quite excited to try this!

Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 03:08 PM, said:

Have fun

If you want to make sure you don't chose our Prime Minister, you can run your choice by me first.

Thyrllan, on 01 October 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:

Will do. I'll make a decision tonight

Thyrllan, on 03 October 2011 - 09:45 AM, said:

So I'm thinking either Telas or Rashan? So hard to keep track of everyone

Osseric, on 03 October 2011 - 10:10 AM, said:

Either one sound good to me.

Thyrllan, on 03 October 2011 - 10:26 AM, said:

Hmm, well Telas hasn't posted much, but I'm curious to see if Rashan was actually being signalled by Gamelon. Though I doubt it. So much "signalling". Still, might be worth a go.

Thyrllan, on 03 October 2011 - 11:51 PM, said:

I hope this works!

Osseric, on 04 October 2011 - 09:16 AM, said:

Just so you know,

We at our location received a notice that said "Rashan is Zh J"

No idea what it means and who sent it, but keep it in mind

Osseric, on 04 October 2011 - 09:20 AM, said:

Ah, zhanG ji is Xiu!

I don't know if the info is true, but i think it might be

Thyrllan, on 04 October 2011 - 09:44 AM, said:

Cheers, I'll keep that in mind. I'll go ahead with the lover connection and see what happens

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 01:04 AM, said:

Message from Rashan:

Hey Thyrllan, so what are you? I am currently a Lu Civil Officer in Han Zhong, present with our emperor Osseric. I can switch today to kill mode as a result if you think it is a good idea. Oh, and if you haven't guessed yet, I'm Gust Hubb . Nice meeting you love.

O.o

I've replied asking about the forgery message, because if he's telling the truth, he shouldn't have got it.

Osseric, on 05 October 2011 - 04:44 AM, said:

Well, we do have a civil officer in Han Zhong, so it is possible. Strange, then, what the hell was that notice? I thought it came from him!

Maybe there's someone else here messing with our minds. Be careful, but he seems to already know a lot anyways.

Osseric, on 05 October 2011 - 04:51 AM, said:

It also shows the trick works perfectly, now if we can only find someone NOT with us

By the way, our PM made a find last night, Okaros is Ma Chao, the warlord.

About Rashan, if he was in the same city as us, he should indeed the Notice I mentioned ("Rash is Zh J")

Osseric, on 05 October 2011 - 05:02 AM, said:

So, assuming this is all true, ask him to become a MO and to vig the £&"$ out of Okaros. Ma Chao is either still in Tian Shui, or with us in Han Zhong, so within his range.

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 05:32 AM, said:

Right, I shall wait for him to reply and say that he didn't get the Forgery just to make sure.

And then death to Okaros!

Quote

About Rashan, if he was in the same city as us, he should indeed the Notice I mentioned ("Rash is Zh J")

Sorry, you've missed out a word methinks and I can't figure out what you mean. He should have gotten the notice too?

Osseric, on 05 October 2011 - 07:03 AM, said:

Sorry, indeed I messed up my sentence.

Yesterday the PM and I received the same notice. My point was that if Rashan is indeed in the same city as us, he should have received it too.

Actually, I'm such an ass. I realized that the Lu CO which I know moved to Han Zhong is called Zhuge Jin. So the Notice came from him.

Major facepalm

I assumed it meant that someone was telling us that Rashan is Zhang Ji, which is the other name for Xiu. It was actually Rashan telling us who he is.


... I think you can trust him.

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 07:11 AM, said:

Hahahaha oh dear! Right, we'll go with trusting him then, and I'll let him know about Okaros. That explains why he was immediately trusting of the lover bond. Right ho!

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 11:08 AM, said:

Hey, just thought I'd let you know, Rashan says he has done finds on Tiam and Omtose, but is probably out of range/being blocked. And the notice did indeed come from him. He's also wondering about a second target, and has suggested Emur.

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cont`d

Osseric, on 05 October 2011 - 11:27 AM, said:

Emur is good, in particular for a find, but for a kill, definitively Okaros should be his first choice.

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 02:11 PM, said:

I let him know.

By the way, any thoughts on choices of targets for the lovers bond for night?

Osseric, on 05 October 2011 - 02:19 PM, said:

Can you bond again tonight directly, or do you have a time penalty to break the one with Rashan?

In any case, tell him to try and vig Okaros, maybe he has a bulletproof, so he should keep trying unless a better target appears.

Tell him that if I even send him a notice, it will start with a small "z". If anything big happens, he can send a notice that starts with the letter "x" (the x doesn't have to make sense, it can be " xKarosis smells bad ") so I know it's from him.

As for the targets, I will check if anything comes to mind. We should decide quickly so that you can send the message, or is that at night also?

Osseric, on 05 October 2011 - 02:23 PM, said:

I have a feeling that Kessobahn is with us, he made a pretty cringe-worthy signaling to me at some point.

To me, Silanah, Kaschan and Telas are big question marks.

Problem with question marks, is that they might be power roles

Ruse is very agreeable, I think he's afraid of getting attention. Barghast plays with a bit more abandon and aggressivity, maybe he's a minion. You could try him if you feel like.

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 02:38 PM, said:

I can make and break one per night. Tap and gap, that's me!
I've told Rashan that I'll be breaking the bond tonight anyway and I'll pass on info to him.

I've got Kess down with us for some reason too...
Barghy sounds like fun, I'll go pick on him. I'll just use the same line for the forgery at this point. I need to do it during the day so I'll get onto it when I get up in the morning.

[Path-Shaper]

Thyrllan / Rashan lover convo (starts night 2):

Rashan, on 04 October 2011 - 10:10 PM, said:

Hey Thyrllan, so what are you? I am currently a Lu Civil Officer in Han Zhong, present with our emperor Osseric. I can switch today to kill mode as a result if you think it is a good idea. Oh, and if you haven't guessed yet, I'm Gust Hubb . Nice meeting you love.

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

Hmm, our own private conversation? We could get up to all kinds of kinky

Did you get a message from P-S?

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 07:22 AM, said:

I've got the confirmation I needed about from Osseric, so never mind about the message.

Changing to kill mode would be a great idea, since our PM made a find, and it turns out Okaros is Ma Chao the warlord. So turn into an MO and vig the bastard!

I be Lady Zou, who is apparently a bit of a ho
And I'm KL. Hi!!!

Rashan, on 05 October 2011 - 10:21 AM, said:

KL!!! I didn't know you played Mafia. Awesome. So what is your role and powers? And who is Osseric (which forumite?) I assume you are the PM since you are in contact with Osseric? And which tile are you on?

Ok, so just to let you know, I've done finds on both Tiam and Omtose, both of which were unsuccessful. I believe that most likely they were out of range, but with everyone in finder mode (as we've seen from the two lynches) I maybe am being blocked.

So Lady Zou, can you give me any other intel? Do we know any other team mates? And does Osseric know who I am now, did he get the notice I sent out?

Is there another notice he or you would like me to send out?

I am switching over to kill mode and striking out at Okaros (do we have a second target?). Good to have you as a lover KL (I'm not sure how Wolfy will feel about this and I fear long tongue...).

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 10:59 AM, said:

Haha I am sneaky or you just didn't pay attention. My role type is lover, hence our current bond. don't know who our PM is, but Osseric does (Osseric is JA btw). I'm currently on Tian Shui. I can send 100 character forgeries to people who are not Lu (hence why I asked you if you got a message from P-S). And I can create Lover bonds, but only two at a time. So I'll need to cut this one when Night rolls around. But we can chat though today and communicate through notes after, if we need to, yes?

Osseric knows who you are now, and he got the notice. Sorry I don't have more info No notices necessary at this stage at least. There's no second target that I know of.

Rashan, on 05 October 2011 - 11:05 AM, said:

Ok, well since I'm in kill mode, how would you feel about me putting Emur as a second choice?

And what is that 100 misdirections thing? What does it do? I really want to know the nitty gritty just in case other teams have the same role in place and try to mislead me. Thanks.

Ah, I thought the lover bond was just an extra KL. I didn't realize it was your whole role. Thanks . I'll miss you .

Rashan, on 05 October 2011 - 11:07 AM, said:

And wait, one other question. Can you only form lover bonds with team mates? I guess I should have asked this first, but I was assuming (damn, I get too eager sometimes...)

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 11:19 AM, said:

I'd say go for it, he's still a bit dodgy to me I hope he's not on our team, that's all
Okaros should be in range though.

It's just a message that I can send out through P-S, saying almost anything, up to 100 characters long. If I have to send you one, I'll sign it KL or something.

Awww, at least we got to be lovers for a little while
But I'm afraid there are just so many more waiting out there for me *strikes heroic pose*
Seriously though, I'm such a tart. I love this role

And no, I can form lover bonds with anyone. But I figure you can trust me anyway, since I could have just said I can only form them with team mates. You surprised me with your outpouring of information though! Although I suppose the fact that you'd just sent a note to Osseric must have figured into it Perhaps be a little more suspicious next time?

Rashan, on 05 October 2011 - 11:21 AM, said:

Yeah, yeah, will do.... thanks KL.

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 11:24 AM, said:

Hey, random thought, do you think there's anything in the avatars that would hint to their roles? I mean yours is rather military (And so was Serc's, for that matter), Osseric has lots of gold shiny things and I'm a suave, sexy beast. Maybe I'm reading too much into this though

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 11:30 AM, said:

Btw, just heard from Osseric, he says Emur is all good, especially for a find, but Okaros should be your first choice.

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 02:49 PM, said:

Right, more stuff for you.
(I'm a postman apparently )

Osseric reckons that Kessobahn may be with us, on the basis of some signalling earlier, so you may want to watch out for that.

And he reckons you should keep trying to vig Okaros unless someone better turns up.

If Osseric sends you a notice, it will start with a small "z". If anything big happens, you can send a notice that starts with the letter "x" (the x doesn't have to make sense, it can be " xKarosis smells bad "

I'll let you know if anything else comes up

Rashan, on 05 October 2011 - 08:41 PM, said:

Quick note, I have attempted a move back into Tlan Shui to eliminate Okaros (I can get him without being blocked if I am on the same tile). I will keep in mind that Kesso is a potential team mate.

As for the avatars, red herrring. Look up one of the names (your own for instance) on Google images and you will see all of these images come from Rot3K video game. They are not matched with their correct persons unfortunately. Hey, maybe a way to rule out what one person a play is NOT

Rashan, on 05 October 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:

KL, another couple of things:

1) Let JA know that if he needs healing support, send out the message "xToes" (heel and toe) and I will begin healing him each night to protect his BPs (if he has any).

2) If JA can describe his powers, that would help me understand what our enemies are capable of.

3) What are your own personal thoughts KL on the game?

Rashan, on 05 October 2011 - 09:22 PM, said:

Did Osseric mean this?


" Hugin told me to say 'the komodo bites the dynasty at sunrise!' "


Cause, the first emperor of the Han Dynasty was considered to look like a dragon, and I would say this makes me more suspicious of Kesso being in the Usurper domain...

Rashan, on 05 October 2011 - 09:26 PM, said:

or this?

5) Osseric's post 321. Marvelous stuff. (Look I'm signaling!)

[Sir Thursday]

The lover convos really do give the Lu a huge advantage in terms of organisation. It's just a shame that I died, because they don't have anyone to try probing North towards the Xia. They don't seem to be thinking about movement too much, which is a shame. Getting rid of Ma Chao is a start, but currently the only thing stopping them from being buried in a horde of advancing Yan is Ruse being in Yong An. JA/Osseric really needs to be using his supression ability on Yong An. He knows he has a Lu player there, and should realise that it's likely that there are plenty of Yan players around.


ST

[Path-Shaper]

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 11:52 PM, said:

Forgery to Barghast:
You are doing well staying fairly under the radar so far. This is being sent through P-S. I have a possibility of pairing my followers for a day, I will connect you with Thyrllan tomorrow.

Noted

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Korlat, on 06 October 2011 - 01:15 AM, said:

Move to He Fei

Fails - you remain in Luo Yang.

Korlat, on 06 October 2011 - 01:23 AM, said:

I've already fallen asleep once so I am going to submit my night actions in case I am not back in good time.

Tonight PS I have a plan...a diabolical plan! My plan is to actually kill someone and third time lucky right? Sounds enough like strategy to me. I want to NK Barghast but I fear that would leave me open to suspicion if it actually hit him since I have mentioned him on thread a few times, I was hoping to get someone Yannish if possible because I hold a grudge for my school days against the Yan dynasty, kind of.

Kill Ruse

It is a suspicious sounding name and he was on the Tiam train so a possible Yanite.

NA noted

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Kaschan, on 06 October 2011 - 02:53 AM, said:

I figure I've been going about this all wrong now. It will likely take a few more days before any of us can move and chances are that nobody else can move to my tile or started there. So, a message or two trying to coordinate on thread activities would have been far more benificial. I'll have to give some thought about that for tomorow. I'm starting to think that one of the other factions has been doing this from day one.

[Path-Shaper]

Osseric, on 06 October 2011 - 05:08 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 05 October 2011 - 06:49 PM, said:

secondly: a lot of you seem to think i'm Xia. more power to you. since you do think that, i'll play along and tell you why it's a bad idea to vote Xia.

the game had 25 players.

3 families, 2 warlords, and the usurper.


now, keep in mind, this game was designed a while ago, before we played the tales. so, the final showdown was always going to feature 3 kingdoms + the usurper.
if the usurper is a 1 man faction, we would be looking at 3 families, 8 man strong.

however, the warlords were added, because the Xia and the Lu lost their minis. thus, the warlord factions were "carved out" of their allotment of players. meaning, they started out with 5-6 players each. let's assume (WCS for me, since i'm supposedly Xia) that the northern kingdoms have 5 each, and hte warlords each have 3 (warlord, champion and someone we don't know yet). that leaves yan with 8. minus Sima Yi. still 7

now, lu lost one, yan lost one. no guarantees that last night's recruit was Yan. no matter how you put it, Yan has plurality at this point.

since all of you assume i'm xia, i'm gonna do what a xia would do in this situation--that is, look for more Yan.

When did anyone called you Xia? What an emo post.

I just accused you of not confronting anyone, repeating the same thing (Yan iz big!) without going anywhere with this idea (and getting annoyed when others didn't either)

About the Yan: Maybe I don't put enough importance to the influence of previous games, but if Lu and Xia have to deal with the warlords and not Yan, then balance rules would actually tell me that Yan would be smaller than the others, since they already have a "geographical" advantage. It's not like D'rek would double-punish two factions in a game just because the way other players played in previous ones. To me, if the Usurper is in the Yan, then the geographical advantage might be balanced, so I feel everyone is equal in size.

Then saw your mega-posts, but I'm not certain if you accuse me or Meanas there (or everyone else that you mention in there). I just like how you read into the fact that after you spazzed out (you can't defend from a typo? how about just saying " , and m are next to each other on the keyboard " instead of freaking out like a vampire in a garlic factory?) those that attacked you were "zombies". Maybe many people say you just acted strange, you know?

...I wouldn't? Ooops

[Path-Shaper]

Kessobahn, on 06 October 2011 - 05:23 AM, said:

Tonight for my Defence of the Realm I wish to find Kaschan

For my Spy Network I wish to say to Emurlahn: "I don't have anything to say. Keep making random cases."

Noted.

Emurlahn, on 06 October 2011 - 04:27 AM, said:

sigh

well, so much for that.

it was a neccessary move. at least, Kesso is well hidden.
it would appear Tia had some neat power.


that, or we've had a non-voter on board.

maybe the usurper? hmm.

Emurlahn, on 06 October 2011 - 04:53 AM, said:

if we assume that Sima recruited from Yan

Ma-3
gongsun-3
Sima-2
Yan-6
Lu-4
Xia-4

Emurlahn, on 06 October 2011 - 05:43 AM, said:

i just got a horrible feeling



Osseric is JA!!!

Thyrllan, on 06 October 2011 - 08:58 AM, said:

Break Lover Connection to Rashan

Create Lover Connection to Barghast

Cheers P-S

Noted

Karosis, on 06 October 2011 - 11:33 AM, said:

move to He Fei

You cannot move at Night.

[Edrigan]

Hot damn!!!

Props to you D'rek, I knew this game would be full of awesomeness --- I just wished I could have lasted longer innit!!

Cen Pi is probably disappointed in me, since I managed to live up to his name in "Lu Bei's Conspiracy" but I really did a major mistake initially in this here game. I had the Chinese map open so I could be checking it while doing my research, and I missed the blatant obvious fact that the Gongsuns start into the same tile as myself. I should have stayed there to deny them movement further down into Xia territory, and probably do Finds on Emur to block other Find NA's. But when I realized my mistake, it was already a bit too late, plus I was pretty much toasted on thread as well since my faction and role were already out in the open.

I placed Xia in a tough spot -- Really hope they will recover, pick up, and eventually get through it.

[Path-Shaper]

(after finding out recruit Karosis failed)

Telas, on 06 October 2011 - 01:04 PM, said:

ah fuck. Well, I was wrong then. Alas. Even my great intellect must fail occasionally in order to retain balance in the world.

Ah, now I have material for the next scene

[Path-Shaper]

Night 3 NA graph now up and is a great example of how one Emperor can change EVERYTHING. I always wanted the Emperors to be at a sort of high, world-shaping position where they might not know the effects of their actions but a little whiff of their hand can change the course of history, again and again. Night 3 demonstrates this nicely - Osseric uses Suppress on Yong An, guarding the entire Yan dynasty, including 2 kills on Ruse and a kill towards Osseric himself, plus Tennes' illumination (and also Ruse's find). Love it.

[Path-Shaper]

Ruse, on 06 October 2011 - 01:05 PM, said:

I would like to move to Han Zhong and change to into the Military Role

I shall call this a "tactical retreat"

Advantages
Potentially avoid my own NK, Protect Osseric from NK, My find isn't working worth a damn anyways.

Disadvantages
Possibly lose Yong An, Potentially alert Barghast/Sil to my alignment, although I thinkit might be too late for that anyways.

Dammit, I'm pissed about my own hesitancy. Maybe I have no cause to be, but I'm really angry with myself at the moment. I don't think I have a good choice to make here...

Move and change succeed, you're now an MO in Han Zhong.

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Telas, on 06 October 2011 - 01:06 PM, said:

well then, make my provisional for recruit night 4 to be Mockra. Quite possible open for change later.

Okay.

(Note: if he succeeds he gets Mockra AND Meanas!)

[Path-Shaper]

Sorrit, on 06 October 2011 - 01:16 PM, said:

Notice - Osseric is Zhang Xiu, Emperor

Will do.

(and some very good timing, right after Ruse leaves so this goes to all, and only all the Yan.)

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Sheltatha Lore, on 06 October 2011 - 01:19 PM, said:

CURSES!!! Are you laughing at me now?? I hope I'm not alone in my inability to move

I would never laugh at you for being the victim of abuse of some of my mechanics. I am definitely laughing *with* the one abusing you with them, though

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 06 October 2011 - 01:21 PM

[Sir Thursday]

Path-Shaper, on 06 October 2011 - 01:16 PM, said:

Ruse, on 06 October 2011 - 01:05 PM, said:

I would like to move to Han Zhong and change to into the Military Role

I shall call this a "tactical retreat"

Advantages
Potentially avoid my own NK, Protect Osseric from NK, My find isn't working worth a damn anyways.

Disadvantages
Possibly lose Yong An, Potentially alert Barghast/Sil to my alignment, although I thinkit might be too late for that anyways.

Dammit, I'm pissed about my own hesitancy. Maybe I have no cause to be, but I'm really angry with myself at the moment. I don't think I have a good choice to make here...

Move and change succeed, you're now an MO in Han Zhong.

Oh dear, I think this was a huge mistake. Now the looming mass of Yan players can swarm on Han Zhong, and there's nothing the Lu players can do about it. The Ma Chao are making themselves felt at our back as well. Don't see this ending well for the Lu, especially since Osseric is going to have a ton of heat coming his way today.

ST

[Path-Shaper]

Sir Thursday, on 06 October 2011 - 02:05 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 October 2011 - 01:16 PM, said:

Ruse, on 06 October 2011 - 01:05 PM, said:

I would like to move to Han Zhong and change to into the Military Role

I shall call this a "tactical retreat"

Advantages
Potentially avoid my own NK, Protect Osseric from NK, My find isn't working worth a damn anyways.

Disadvantages
Possibly lose Yong An, Potentially alert Barghast/Sil to my alignment, although I thinkit might be too late for that anyways.

Dammit, I'm pissed about my own hesitancy. Maybe I have no cause to be, but I'm really angry with myself at the moment. I don't think I have a good choice to make here...

Move and change succeed, you're now an MO in Han Zhong.

Oh dear, I think this was a huge mistake. Now the looming mass of Yan players can swarm on Han Zhong, and there's nothing the Lu players can do about it. The Ma Chao are making themselves felt at our back as well. Don't see this ending well for the Lu, especially since Osseric is going to have a ton of heat coming his way today.

ST

Yup, not looking good for Lu. I would've said that they have a chance of getting lucky with Yan and Ma Chao forces killing each other once the Yans get to Han Zhong, but that's not very likely since the Yans ALL know Osseric is Zhang Xiu. Ouch.

[Path-Shaper]

Barghast, on 06 October 2011 - 02:03 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 October 2011 - 12:02 PM, said:

You're not reading those quotes very thoroughly are you...?

Perhaps not, but I have no clue what I miss. They're 4 minutes apart, both on night 2?

Path-Shaper, on 06 October 2011 - 04:47 PM, said:

ahem

Barghast, on 06 October 2011 - 09:12 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 04 October 2011 - 06:58 PM, said:

Illumination - on Night 2, the following alts were in Yong An:

Barghast
Mockra
Ruse
Silanah

4 minutes before that:

Quote

Report from the Throne - Huang Zhong is in Yong An this year.

Wait, since my boss was in Yong An 4 minutes before you sent me this, shouldn't he be listed, here, too?
Or does he move at different times?


Anyhow, looking forward to being matched with Thyr.

Barghast, on 06 October 2011 - 05:05 PM, said:

Doh. Thanks for clearing that up.

And yeah, I skim. I skim an awful lot, way more than I like, but thankfully the thread so far is forgiving. The game moves really fast and I have very little time to play, so I mostly play loose, skim and read diagonally. I should pay more attention to my PMs though...



---------actions--------

Fearsome reputation: Find and Kill, please.
Defender of the Realm: Guard on Osseric, please. If he is dead, guard Sorrit.


--------movement--------
tba later on.

I like where I am now, but if need be, I'll reveal the notice to press a lynch and then move to Jiang Xia.

Actions noted



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(after Rashan dies)

Osseric, on 06 October 2011 - 02:08 PM, said:

Hm, well, fantastic. The Warlords get to kill whoever tries to NK them or what?

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Meanas, on 06 October 2011 - 02:37 PM, said:

Blood hell, this is getting increasingly difficult. I almost replied to a question Ruse asked of Meanas in my Mockra alt! That would not have been good.

It doesn't help that I haven't been keeping track of what I've said in which alt, making me always fearful that whenever I refer to one alt having said something, it was actually the other one.

At the moment, Meanas is getting a little heat. But thanks to that non-vote by Mockra, if enough people put their heads together and analysed the lynch trains, Mockra could be in trouble too.

I have a very convoluted plan in place to try and save Meanas if it looks like he's going to get lynched, but I'm not sure what I can do if Mockra goes on to the chopping block.

I think you're pulling it off pretty well. Better than me in Spycraft 2 where I had 2 alts (that didn't die together) and lost both in the first two days...

Meanas, on 06 October 2011 - 05:00 PM, said:

I've made a giant slip-up now though, revealing on thread that I don't know who my emperor is, which puts me in a minority of roles. I can't believe no one's picked up on it. Surely it's just a matter of time.....

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Ruse, on 06 October 2011 - 01:57 PM, said:

Well, it's time to do some pre-planning.

I have no faith that I'll actually manage to kill anyone, so I'm counting on my kill as being a blocking action more than anything.

Today I will subtly keep up my apparent symping of Meanas. And with the cover of two Lu officials being dead allowing for a find to go through, I will attempt to concoct a reveal of a false Lu emperor, in case of an extreme emergency. (I wouldn't reveal the Lu emperor as Meanas though - hopefully he'd get taken down in the ensuing fracas later)

I'm also secretly hoping that being in proximity to my emperor will also help me in some way....

Ruse, on 06 October 2011 - 02:19 PM, said:

Did Silanah get a successful find of Osseric, because he sure sounds like he's gearing up for a reveal... Was I guarded? (And of course, those are rhetorical questions)

Ruse, on 06 October 2011 - 02:43 PM, said:

Damn, I can't false reveal a Lu emperor if Osseric is under fire, that would just ensure his lynch. I need to go to bed, hopefully attention will go elsewhere overnight. I feel like I should come out firing with a case right now before I leave, but I'm dead on my feet...

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Sorrit, on 06 October 2011 - 04:07 PM, said:

So i've used my day action ie Notice,

I want to


Provisional heal Tennes



Now I may change my mind later but for now that's what I want to do.

Noted

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(Note: Khell only knows Barg is PM, doesn't know Tennes is his Emp)

Meanas, on 06 October 2011 - 03:39 PM, said:

Hmm, Silanah's case has thrown a curveball. I know that Silanah either sent out that notice or got it as well. But Silanah is presenting Osseric as the Yan emperor, not the Lu emperor. Why? Is the notice telling the truth, or is Silanah? I think I will wait until Barghast's reaction, as they will know who our emperor is.

Meanas, on 06 October 2011 - 04:19 PM, said:

Goddamn it, Barghast posted about nothing at all and seems to have gone away again. Why can't he comment on it one way or another. He KNOWS who our Emperor is - does his lack of immediate leap on to Osseric mean that he is our Emperor, or is Barghast just being a pansy?

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 06 October 2011 - 05:10 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Emurlahn, on 06 October 2011 - 06:16 PM, said:

my minister thinks i'm an idiot.



ah well, I'm sure that's what most ministers think of their lieges.

at this particular time i'm happy with all the commotion i've stirred up. if it gets Osseric lynched, and he turns out to be JA, it'll be like my birthday came 3 days early.
also, we lost Chang An

iz not too good.

on the one hand, it means that Gongsuns are trapped. Lu is spreading itself thin (i'm assuming they moved into Chang An), and Ma rebels are kicking their asses.

I fear I may end up the emperor of Wu, with the Yan (Wei) steamrolling all over me after the Shu is gone.

Emurlahn, on 06 October 2011 - 06:19 PM, said:

I want to make a proclamation to my people



"stay behind the walls of Lou Yang, and shield ourselves from all NKs ALL THE TIME"


too bad I don't have that power.

Sure you do, but no way to send it securely. If you pronounced it to your subjects spies would inform all the other heroes of the land (ie: you can say it in-thread )

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Path-Shaper, on 06 October 2011 - 07:19 PM, said:

Tennes, on 06 October 2011 - 06:28 PM, said:

SO I illuminated Yong An. Don't I get to see alts in Yong An? Or am I still confused?

Rest assured, I didn't mess anything up.

(I'm getting the sense that Blocking has made people forget that there are still Guards in the game. Not that anyone but osseric is using them...)

[Path-Shaper]

Tennes, on 06 October 2011 - 07:22 PM, said:

ok, Day 4 action

Move my fleet!!!!

I want everyone in Xin Du!!! Time to shove my sword up some Barbarian ass and then take Xia in the back side.

Awesome! Okay, stand by...

(well shit, wasn't expecting that!)