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Kaschan, on 30 September 2011 - 12:59 AM, said:

Late comments, but anyway. Looks like a cool role and a very interesting set-up. Going to be failry quiet the first couple days due to the clusterfuck going on at work, I hadn't expected it to get this bad.

I voted for a time freeze for the weekend and really hope the thread is not locked, as that is the best chance I'll have to participate in the early game.

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See? Tiam leaves Xin Du open and the Gongsun Zans can rush into Luo Yang for their BP, not to mention Korlat will be able to kill quite a lot of people from Luo Yang. Lucky for Xia Omtose the assassin moved up and he'll notice quickly enough that Korlat isn't in Xin Du...

Korlat, on 29 September 2011 - 11:31 PM, said:

Hey PS just a quick question is there a limit to how much I can talk to Karosis off thread, is it the once a day 6 words thing or have I confused myself? Also do I submit here if I want to move?

Nope, it's a full-out unlimited conversation.

Korlat, on 30 September 2011 - 12:47 AM, said:

I needs the sleepytimes so I am going to just try and go on my less than complete understanding of the rules and request that I


Move to Luo Yang

since advancing seems like an idea worth exploring and that would give me more options as to where I can move. I assume then that the night action I submit since submitted after this will happen in that location if the move is successful.

I swear I have read the rules, three times, this is one mindfuck of a minefield, I applaud you greatly, you clearly are a diabolical genius. Also, I love the avatar.

Move succeeds - you are now in Luo Yang. You also gain a BP.

Korlat, on 30 September 2011 - 01:07 AM, said:

Gamelon did make an interesting point about Sheltatha Lore almost expecting people to make cases so she could judge which one was best. A lot of us do that though so it is not massively damning but I think the likelihood of this going through isn't great and I shall do it anyway (and hopefully not be targeting a fellow Stormrider).

Kill Sheltatha Lore this night

I'd like it to be on record that this decision has nothing to do with cleavage envy, nothing at all.

Noted, and suuuuure suuuure....


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Silanah, on 30 September 2011 - 03:26 AM, said:

Night 1

Provisional Find Serc

I hope I'm doing this PM thing right.

Yup! Noted!

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Kessobahn, on 30 September 2011 - 03:35 AM, said:

Ok, today I do not wish to move. I have no notice for today.

Spy Network: I want all notices from Jiang Xia tomorrow

Defence of the Realm: Heal Emurlahn.

Noted.

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Hood, on 30 September 2011 - 03:54 AM, said:

Could I please do a find on Silanah?

Noted.

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Okaros, on 30 September 2011 - 04:18 AM, said:

Copy-Paste from my role page. with some bold added.

Move day 1. I would like to move to Han Zhong at the earliest opportunity. I would assume my fellows will likely do the same.

I will also choose not to use my heal, seeing as moving to Han Zhong should gift me with bulletproofness. My comrades should also have moved, and received their BP. A safe first action, and one that should end with no losses to this faction.


Sorry for my stupidity.

Your attempt to move to Han Zhong failed. You are in Tian Shui.

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Okaros, on 30 September 2011 - 04:41 AM, said:

In any case

Heals myself, night 1 action


May as well. My team members are sad;y absent. Positive tradeoff being that there is almost zero speculation about either of them yet.

Noted.

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Atrahal, on 30 September 2011 - 05:20 AM, said:

I'm not sure if this how it's done, NA kill serc

Night 1:
Kill Serc


^^like that. Noted.

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Sorrit, on 30 September 2011 - 08:03 AM, said:

So I want to find Osseric now Gamelon is lynched

Noted

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Sorrit, on 30 September 2011 - 08:15 AM, said:

I know you may have many PM's but I wanted to know if you have a preference on Game commentry? I can post that in this thread, or do it in the actions/duel/role thread if that is easier for you to track. I am not going to change my duel/debate set up as it is random, and too much wifom can go into that, I mixed it up so it is random.

In terms of my role, I innitially thought being a killer would be cool, but then I could do more harm and good, my strategy at the moment, is to find an opposing team member and then kill them, as long as i'm around my emperor I can switch between roles, so I may not switch from my current location. So I have a question on that, if I am touching two places at once am I able to switch between roles OR do I have to go back a step to where I started and where Tennes/Huang is?

At the moment I have layed quite low, I made a case about Gamelon, commented about Serc and Emurlahn and I haven't been mentioned in the thread which at the moment with such a large group of players is a good sign. I may stay away from the thread at times just for my safety, and only come on strongly if Tennes gets any heat, because he is the one I am symping and looking after.

Doesn't really matter where you do game commentary. The important things are doing actions and duel/debate setup in the right places so if I need to I can go back and check those things very quickly.

I don't understand what you mean by "touching two places at once"... you're either in location A or location B, you can't be in both.

Sorrit, on 30 September 2011 - 08:22 AM, said:

after a day or so I may just stay as civilian and heal him every chance i get, I personally thought he would be safe on day one, with all the going on I could be conflicted about what to do, I am caught between wanting to kill people and having to heal Tennes, I need to think a lot more about this, also I need to comment on thread cause i've been away for a little time.

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Osseric, on 30 September 2011 - 11:46 AM, said:

Well, there's noone left at Tlan Shui then

Can I suppress Han Zong instead?

Sure, noted.

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Sorrit, on 30 September 2011 - 12:01 PM, said:

@ Gamelon/ST

First game back, in hindsight it feels like we are all sharks, and smelling new blood in the water we swim towards it and attack. Sorry it had to be you, but it did prove that you were indeed roled, and we'll see about lynching Serc next just in case it was a signal there at the beginning.

[Sir Thursday]

Damn, I should have stuck to my guns . And there I was feeling sorry for Ment because he was getting cased like this all the time...

I don't know what I was thinking yesterday evening. There was really no need to go stirring up anything more than I already had - though I might have ended up losing the fight against Emurlahn given that he had lots of supporters behind him. And Serc was pretty much the worst target I could have picked...ah well, blame it on the tiredness I guess.

I felt like Osseric/JA was getting himself into a pretty good position as a leader. I think he's nicely set up for the future. Didn't really see too much from the rest of my team, but then I wouldn't have expected to.

ST

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Osseric, on 30 September 2011 - 12:13 PM, said:

I'm so sorry about Sir Thursday.

I had a feeling at some point that he was a bit too patient with me and answering my accusations. I considered backing up, but I decided not to as doing so might have looked a bit suspicious. Instead I stayed there without pushing it too hard, hoping Emurlahn/Ment would keep digging his grave and attract the votes.

I do believe he got much more pressure than expected from his actions, from too many players. I think Hood's Path is an Emperor and that poor ST dug his grave by voting him.

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Thyrllan, on 30 September 2011 - 12:29 PM, said:

Um not sure what the correct way to do this is

But

Lover connection with Osseric

thank you muchly

Noted.

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Ruse, on 30 September 2011 - 12:49 PM, said:

My spidey sense is tingling

Find Tiamatha

Due to Tiam's possible Emur connection and deliberate signal deflecting, I have fair suspicion that Tiam could be the Emperor in Jiang Xia.

Please go through, please go through, please go through, please go through.

Noted.

Ruse, on 30 September 2011 - 12:50 PM, said:

Er., that means, cancel the find on Atrahal.

Yup!

[Lizradusa]

The set-up is awesome.

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Sorrit, on 30 September 2011 - 03:17 PM, said:

Alt Guesses, I think Barghast is Tapper.

Sorrit, on 30 September 2011 - 03:20 PM, said:

I also want to find a way to hint at Tennes, but without people cottoning on. I think it may be best to use my name, but i'm holding back at the moment.

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Emurlahn, on 30 September 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

note to self:



never RP in game thread with Sir Thursday around.

I hope he enjoys the chaos he's caused.

lol, you'll see his response when you get to SH

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Lyca, on 30 September 2011 - 03:02 PM, said:

The set-up is awesome.

Why thank you!

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Karosis, on 30 September 2011 - 04:35 PM, said:

aaah sorry man been at a funeral then the wake all day




Heal my self,


nice and selfish

Noted.

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Tiamatha, on 30 September 2011 - 05:40 PM, said:

Thanks!

My moronic emperor didn't move !!! Coolio!!!

Btw, shouldn't I get this message in the "Actions" convo instead?


Speaking of actions, I get the feeling that my Heal NA could be idiotic, since there seem to be quite a few killers running around ... Of course there's a chance for kills to be blocked, but I get the creeps now that Emperors might possibly have a BP or various other stuff to avoid some nasty gangbanging on Night 1 possibly.... hmmmm... Need to think my strat over...

Yeah, I guess I put it in the wrong thread.

Tiamatha, on 30 September 2011 - 05:42 PM, said:

Fuck, I want to work on my CODING.... Wanna send a "NOTICE" ASAP!!!!!

And F U Mockra (in a nice way) for pointing out my signaling!! Duuuhhhh, of course I tried to play nice with my Emperor, he's the guy who I'm gonna stab in the back later on when I decide to make my move and place someone I can manipulate easily on the Throne!!!

RAWR!

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Tiamatha, on 30 September 2011 - 05:52 PM, said:

Question, Question!!!!!


Is something like this acceptable as a <Notice> action , meaning is it following the rules about the word limit and stuff ::::::::



" It's in the fifth.
大禹治水 297/10-35"



??!???

Please , say it IS!!!!
Pretty please with cherries on top?!?
/bats eyelashes

It's
in
the
fifth.
大禹
治水
297/10-35"

it's seven wrods, really, but I'll allow it.

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Tennes, on 30 September 2011 - 06:01 PM, said:

Day 2 Provisional Move

Move to Yong An

Re-read OP - "Moving and Notices" please.

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Unsurprisingly, Ment doesn't get it...

Emurlahn, on 30 September 2011 - 06:47 PM, said:

que?

Emurlahn, on 30 September 2011 - 06:53 PM, said:

what does dayu want?



is confused

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Serc, on 30 September 2011 - 07:10 PM, said:

Wow, so that death scene for Gamelon was very interesting. Are you putting in details from the game? I sense maybe so. I'm described as angrily killing Ma Liang...very interesting. Although I'm a little confused because it describes Ma Liang being an emissary to Huang Zhong but he goes to Jiang Xia, not the Yan capital. And then He Qi is there? Maybe I just don't have all the details. Still, subtle scene, very cool.

Thanks

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Tiamatha, on 30 September 2011 - 07:12 PM, said:

WAIT WAIT

I only wanted to know if something like that would fly.

I DIDNT WANT TO ACTUALLY SEND THAT!

Tiamatha, on 30 September 2011 - 07:15 PM, said:

Goddamn .....


I was working on my code, deciding if I would put it in the fifth syllable , or perhaps every fifth letter... and wanted to post that in the thread.. then send the <Notice> with the Post Number count, and the Hour time , ie 297/10-30 so perhaps people will pick it up and know where to look...

But I wasn't ready yet...

OH. No wonder I couldn't figure out what you were trying to say...

Um, sorry... be more clear that it is not final next time please...?

Tiamatha, on 30 September 2011 - 07:20 PM, said:

Well, not everything is lost...


297/10-35 is actually a post in the thread made by me, and if people Wiki 大禹治水 , they will find out is about Yu the Great and Xia Dynasty....

I'm not blaming you btw... I should have paid attention more, but I moronically tried to multietask while thinking about the code as fast as possible...
I was actually hoping you'd answer me in a "Yes, I can allow something like that, do you want to send that as a notice?" kind of answer...

Sorry...

Fecks..

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Tennes, on 30 September 2011 - 07:25 PM, said:

Sorry, I meant Day 3. Not day 2. I know I can't move today.

Day 3 Provisional

Move to Yong An

Okay, noted.

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Sorrit, on 30 September 2011 - 07:53 PM, said:

Can I change to Military Official or do I have to move first?

If I have to move then move to, Jiang Xia

Once done, change to military official please.

Then Heal Tellan tonight please.

I'll be killing Osseric tomorrow if i'm around.

You are in Yong An and Huang Zhong is in Jiang Xia, so you have to move to Jiang Xia if you want to change to military.

Also, if you want to heal someone, it has to be someone who is actually in the game.


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Meanas, on 30 September 2011 - 08:26 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 30 September 2011 - 05:25 PM, said:

Illumination - on Night 1, the following alts were in Jiang Xia:

Tennes
Mockra

Hello Tennes, what are you doing here? Now, were you always here, or did you come down from Yong An or He Fei, or up from Eight Fan like my wife? Are you Yan or something else? Are you friend or foe? Do I kill you, let you go, or move on myself?

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Korlat, on 30 September 2011 - 09:03 PM, said:

What the fuck?


Bloody hell it's in code!

I have translated 大禹治水 as Dayu courtesy of Goggle Translate so it probably actually means Cheese or moon or something.


Wiki says legendary monarch of the Xia Dynasty was Yu the great so does it have something to do with those pesky Yu's I wonder. God I didn't realise code breaking skills were required. It's going to be something well obvious isn't it and i'll be getting it all totally wrong.

Korlat, on 01 October 2011 - 01:52 AM, said:

I had my Yu's and Lu's mixed up, d'oh.

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Tennes, on 30 September 2011 - 09:14 PM, said:

Night 2 Provisional

Illuminate Yong An

Also, just to verify, everyone on my team in Jiang Xia got the message on who was there last night. Correct?

It's not who was there last night, it's who is there at Dawn. Basically you set up at night an Illumination to occur at Dawn, sorta... so then at the following Dawn whoever is there gets the same list you got.

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Meanas, on 30 September 2011 - 11:34 PM, said:

Hi, I've been studying the NA charts (bloody hell), do I have this right? If both my alts are in the same location, they are basically invulnerable to kills or finds from adjacent locations? They could only be killed if there was someone in the same location trying to kill one of them?

I had other questions but I've already forgotten how the other flow charts worked, sigh....

Meanas, on 30 September 2011 - 11:48 PM, said:

Oh, only if they're using a find or a kill themselves actually. Has to be the same action being used. Hmmm. I'm trying to work out whether it's best to keep my alts together or apart.

Beneficial NAs always go through, correct? So for instance, if I heal one of my alts with the other, and they're in adjacent locations rather than together, that heal will go through no matter what (unless the healer is being guarded)?

As long as I use kill, I'm invulnerable to kill NAs directed at me from other locations?

Bah, either way I present twice the target to others. Only one has to die for both to die, and I can only protect one at a time myself.

Yes, you will not block beneficial actions for your team, so heals are never blocked and you won't block your own team's finds, but you will block a friend from killing or guarding you or your teammates.

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Atrahal, on 30 September 2011 - 11:55 PM, said:

Ok, I have no idea what the fuck any of these game rules means!

Well feel free to ask for explanations on stuff you are unsure on. That's what I'm here for, after all.


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Serc, on 01 October 2011 - 12:08 AM, said:

I cannot BELIEVE how people are latching onto me for signaling and then somehow that makes me an Emperor.

It looks like I may have to take some drastic action if I start picking up votes. I am realizing how badass my role is....

If I have to I think my ultimate fallback plan is to Move to Jiang Xia to be with Tennes so that I can switch to Military Official; if that succeeds, I'll have to semi-reveal and try to get Tiam lynched, then use my Kill ability to hopefully block any NKs directed my way.

If I get off the hook and escape the lynch I think I need to still Move to Jiang Xia. It was stupid of me not to do this on the first day. That way I can use my Notice ability and get some info out to my Emperor and whoever else is hanging around at home base. Damn, damn.

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Rashan, on 30 September 2011 - 09:11 PM, said:

Ok, observations: first of all, I want to say that I picked up on Osseric's signal yesterday with the Fu Man Shu (Shu being associated actually with Lu, as another player points out later in the game without vocalizing Osseric's signaling). I wonder if Gamelon caught this too, though he was the exact same role as myself, so he would have known Osseric anyways.

Sir Thursday, sad to see you go teammate. Will pull this together, and hopefully we can tease out some bad guys from your crazy first day.

Rashan, on 30 September 2011 - 11:48 PM, said:

Ok, just cataloguing day 1 signaling:

Tiam: seXXXing ----> cute, but may be a signal for one of the Xi___ teams
-----> also what is with the <Tea Ceremony> and <Flower Arrangement> ?
Serc: wishes he knew Chinese --> Gongsun Zan's northern fighters (The White Riders)
---------> also comments that " extremely damning on day one when there is little to do except signal and put out feelers."
Tennes: Dragon Testicle?
Atrahal: "Accordion of Doom" (trademarked), Geisha, zen garden (a rock garden basically), sweet songs, Whitey Tighties
Emur: Great Teacher, "ace the civil functionaries examinations"
Ruse: "Sorrit has the hottest avatar of the ladies.... " , whispy-kung-fu-master-eyebrow-raising
Sheltatha Lore: *nods along with self*

Rashan, on 01 October 2011 - 12:41 AM, said:

Page 4 #159. What is with all the caps Tiam?

THIS OMGUS POINT OUT ALL THAT YOU WHO DOES FIND

Rashan, on 01 October 2011 - 01:51 AM, said:

Ignore this PM PS. Self note:
well, if we are to follow history (a tad of a risk, but still)



the 3 kingdomw were Wei (largest), Wu, and Shu

transposed onto the current makeup, we'd get:

wei=Xia (claim succession from the original Han dynasty, lost their chance to unite China at the battle of red Cliffs/Shang Yong (see game 4))

Wu=Yan (the souther kingdom, Huang river being the border)

Shu=Lu (the smallest, protected by numerous mountain passes on the border with Wei)


historically, Wei conquered Shu. then Sima Yi took over for Cao-Cao's descendants, and his dynasty conquered Wu.

by that logic, Sima Yi would be hiding amongst Wei (Xia)

although I agree that game-wise it'd make more sense to stick him with Yan.

You comparison of realms is off. It's not about what lands are whose, it's about the characters.

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Atrahal, on 01 October 2011 - 02:57 AM, said:

what purpose do the zones serve? Do you have to be in the zone with your target?

Quote

Standard Night Actions:

There are four standard NAs: Guard, Find, Heal and Kill.

Guard - Prevents the targeted player from using their own abilities. Works on most non-standard night abilities, too.
Find - Discloses to the caster the role name and faction of the targeted player.
Heal - Prevents the targeted player from dying during the night. A single heal can prevent unlimited attempts on their life. Succeeds even if the player casting Heal is themself killed (see resolution order). You cannot cast Heal on yourself.
Kill - Eliminates the targeted player.


Standard NAs can only be used on players that are in the same location or an adjacent location, or else they will automatically fail. Standard mafia rules governing these abilities applies, such as "Guards guard Guards".

The resolution order is: Guard >> Heal >> Find >> Kill

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Emurlahn, on 01 October 2011 - 07:47 AM, said:

yan is the biggest threat



continue using healing catapults in He fei

Noted (queued)

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Tiamatha, on 01 October 2011 - 07:59 AM, said:

Look at all these POS , dead set on trying to link me with Emur...

Well, basically I guess I stuck my own head into the viper's nest by defending Emur... But it was my moronic Emperor who attracted attention in the first place!!! Damn, I couldn't let him possibly be lynched... I'm not quite ready to take-over the throne and lead the Xia Dynasty to greatness....

Meh, I wanted to be very active during the weekend as well, but I need to stick to low posting, for now, until this subsides.. Also need to re-think my strategy...
With enough role types with killing abilities, a night without a single death appears a bit strange.. Suffice to say, I'm not convinced that Emperors have a BP, but again I'm not convinced they don't.. And it's this mofo hesitation that spooks me out, I want to get a couple of Finds in the next two nights and I'm worried that a Kill action might get through to Emur...

Fecks..
Choices, hmmm...

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Sorrit, on 01 October 2011 - 10:33 AM, said:

Pardon me, my so humblest apologies. D'rek, I love this game, I have information, I know who the emperor is, but I don't know how to proceed. I do but again, i'm conflicted with various thoughts. I could stay and maybe do more finds, I could go back and become a killer to take out Osseric, i could reveal somehow, too risky though. Or try to drive a lynch like the others are doing now. i have the weekend to think about it.

Yes, you have the weekend to think about it. Of course, you can drive a lynch AND do finds AND move or make a notice, etc... there's lots you can do all at once so don't stress out too hard

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Thyrllan, on 01 October 2011 - 12:36 PM, said:

Can I break a connection and start another in the same night? Or do I have to break the connection and wait until the next night to start another?

Each night you can break 0 or 1 connections and create 0 or 1 connections... but you can't break 2 or create 2 in the same night.

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Osseric, on 01 October 2011 - 02:35 PM, said:

OK, Zhunge Jin came to Han Zhong, maybe he wants to switch from CO to MO (or vice-versa, but I think I would prefer to be a MO at the early phases of the game). I would guess he's moving back to where he was today.

Wei Xu didn't move. I guess he's happy where he is. Already a MO? There was no death last night, but maybe he was blocked.

i will try to

suppress Jiand Xia. There's no-one currently there, but if Wei Xu goes, it might piss off some Yan people there. If not, it's wasted but I don't care, I don't want to block any of my players if they stay put.

Ok, noted.

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Korlat, on 01 October 2011 - 04:57 PM, said:

Am I allowed to let karosis know that I got a notice in my location and its contents?

Yes, for sure, you can tell him anything and everything you like.

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Omtose, on 01 October 2011 - 06:17 PM, said:

Tonight I would like to Kill Karosis

Omtose, on 01 October 2011 - 06:27 PM, said:

remove the kill.

Do a find on Karosis if he isn't on my side then kill him. See I can think things through.

After that I would like to move back to the place I was before.

You really don't understand how to name your actions in bold do you?

And if you're thinking of having a provisional NA (assassinate) based on the results of another NA in the same night... no.

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Karosis, on 02 October 2011 - 09:21 AM, said:

i dont know how i am supposed to word this

move to Luo Yang?


pretty please

Move succeeds. You are now in Luo Yang. You have gained a 1-time BP.

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Rashan, on 02 October 2011 - 10:40 AM, said:

For when the freeze ends:

Find Omtose on Night #2, if lynched, Find Sheltatha Lore on Night #2

Noted.

Rashan, on 02 October 2011 - 10:47 AM, said:

Speculation:

So right now I peg Ruse as the Usurper. He discussed a very interesting aspect on thread about what happens to the old Emperor's subjects, something that I think has to do with him mulling over his role...