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I wish my post today worked because it was a very long one based on each player and what I think about them, it also detailed things about the current train but I just do not have time now. I will be back on in a few hours hopefully before lynch time but cannot promise anything.
Quickly i'll try and get out a lot of what i've been thinking.
Korlat, i'd have placed a vote on him yet I don't trust Emurlahn one bit so now find myself doubting who to lynch.
"Case Building", I said I wouldn't have time to create a good case so was going to comment on the 4 people who are getting voted for at the moment.
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Posted 22 August 2011 - 06:42 PM
D'riss, Anthras, Tulas and Korlat.
D'riss' case is built on nothing to what I can see other than people think Fener has some sort of ability. Well I don't buy it. Fener has not being around since Friday? With no explanations and nothing for us to discuss, i am thinking scum ie a symp would do this because we are talking about it and also building a lynch train from it.
Anthras seems like he wants to get a lynch and up in people's faces, which I like because people have to defend and actually talk which helps us find out irregularities or scum trying to hide and best fit in.
Tulas, I would vote him not based on his play but who is voting for him, out of all the votes out there at the moment, Kalse and Barghast are looking to be helpful town, now this could be a way scum would play and I understand this but for them to both vote for TS this early in day 2 and be part of a train I would be willing to vote along with these two other than Emur, Korlat, Shadow, etc because they are acting more scummier in terms of posts and content.
Out of the four Korlat was and is one of my main contenders for scum, I have a provisional in to guard him tonight but i'll change that and vote him if more people think the same. He is lying low, maybe on purpose or maybe not but I haven't had much time to post but when I can get on I am and trying to help town, if you are thinking "well low posting isn't too bad at this stage" then what about the content of his posts? one liners, an early vote on D'riss etc, i'm just not buying it.
If there was a case against Emur i'd look at that but I can only apologise for not having the time to get on here.
I'll be back in an hour or so to lay a vote down, these are my thoughts for now.
D'riss' case is built on nothing to what I can see other than people think Fener has some sort of ability. Well I don't buy it. Fener has not being around since Friday? With no explanations and nothing for us to discuss, i am thinking scum ie a symp would do this because we are talking about it and also building a lynch train from it.
Anthras seems like he wants to get a lynch and up in people's faces, which I like because people have to defend and actually talk which helps us find out irregularities or scum trying to hide and best fit in.
Tulas, I would vote him not based on his play but who is voting for him, out of all the votes out there at the moment, Kalse and Barghast are looking to be helpful town, now this could be a way scum would play and I understand this but for them to both vote for TS this early in day 2 and be part of a train I would be willing to vote along with these two other than Emur, Korlat, Shadow, etc because they are acting more scummier in terms of posts and content.
Out of the four Korlat was and is one of my main contenders for scum, I have a provisional in to guard him tonight but i'll change that and vote him if more people think the same. He is lying low, maybe on purpose or maybe not but I haven't had much time to post but when I can get on I am and trying to help town, if you are thinking "well low posting isn't too bad at this stage" then what about the content of his posts? one liners, an early vote on D'riss etc, i'm just not buying it.
If there was a case against Emur i'd look at that but I can only apologise for not having the time to get on here.
I'll be back in an hour or so to lay a vote down, these are my thoughts for now.
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Posted 22 August 2011 - 06:47 PM
uugh...ive picked up some flu from the missus...bugger me. 
Ill try my best to keep abreast of the action but im knackered.
Ill try my best to keep abreast of the action but im knackered.
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Posted 22 August 2011 - 11:17 PM
ugh, I hate how this site keeps getting hacked by greedy bandwidth thieves.
so it seems like our lower posters for the most part have popped on and contributed (to varying degrees....)
well, i am still not seeing a very clear case for anyone or anything (not that i've even come close to figuring it out myself). so the main thing i dislike here is the lack of response from fener. i could understand not doing anything over the weekend, but even with the forum down this morning, i find it surprising not to have heard anything from him. problem is, i don't think scum is stupid enough to be so blatant (though people still are in a pickle as what to do with him).
i personally think that if we can't trust fener, let alone get any information from him, we either guard him tonight and kill d'riss or kill fener and guard d'riss. i mean, my biggest concern for the end of this day is leaving the killer unguarded and at the same time lynching a townie (which is of course the worst situation, esp. if the townie is roled), which is stating the obvious i know.
right now, until i actually see something from fener, i think we need to investigate both him and D'riss, especially if fener is correct about D'riss.
if barghast is correct and this is a weaker scum game, then we potentially only have one killer to knock off, and if we can sort out the fener/D'riss war, maybe we'll have something to go on. since there is a chance fener is roled, i am hesitant still to vote for him, however annoyed i may be.
But testable to the speculation but if you don't want to vote out D'riss to test the theory then we can drill Fener with a bunch of yes no questions and have him respond with either
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just to get more information.
Yeah, if Fener ever shows up. I know he isn't a finder. I want to ask him why he's got such a boner for me. His vote and disapperance have dominated day 2 and he is nowhere to be found. I think it will help move things along if you hear it from his mouth that he isn't a finder and just has a feeling that I am scum.
but this comment from d'riss saying he knows fener is not a finder rings super-scummy to me. there are only two reasons d'riss would truly have this information: one, d'riss is the finder and has already checked out fener, or two, d'riss is paired with fener as a lover and fener is distancing himself from d'riss (really a stretch if you ask me).
otherwise, d'riss is claiming things he can't know
explanation?
Vote D'riss
so it seems like our lower posters for the most part have popped on and contributed (to varying degrees....)
well, i am still not seeing a very clear case for anyone or anything (not that i've even come close to figuring it out myself). so the main thing i dislike here is the lack of response from fener. i could understand not doing anything over the weekend, but even with the forum down this morning, i find it surprising not to have heard anything from him. problem is, i don't think scum is stupid enough to be so blatant (though people still are in a pickle as what to do with him).
i personally think that if we can't trust fener, let alone get any information from him, we either guard him tonight and kill d'riss or kill fener and guard d'riss. i mean, my biggest concern for the end of this day is leaving the killer unguarded and at the same time lynching a townie (which is of course the worst situation, esp. if the townie is roled), which is stating the obvious i know.
right now, until i actually see something from fener, i think we need to investigate both him and D'riss, especially if fener is correct about D'riss.
if barghast is correct and this is a weaker scum game, then we potentially only have one killer to knock off, and if we can sort out the fener/D'riss war, maybe we'll have something to go on. since there is a chance fener is roled, i am hesitant still to vote for him, however annoyed i may be.
D, on 22 August 2011 - 04:27 PM, said:
Tulas Shorn, on 22 August 2011 - 02:44 PM, said:
Kalse, on 20 August 2011 - 02:08 PM, said:
I also don't like the weight that is being given to the idea that Fener has some kind of certain knowledge. This is pure speculation, and not even likely. People were saying not to be distracted yesterday, attacking others for trying to sow confusion.
And now people are advocating that we lynch based on Fener being silenced and voting D'riss. Because that might mean Fener knows D'riss is scum. Is that your first assumption every time someone votes someone else without reasoning? Or does being silenced somehow make it more likely, silenced scum-knowing roles being so common (and I'm not even talking just M&P here. Even without of M&P, that is not a common role. I'm not even sure if it's a role I've even seen)
And you know what, whatever his restrictions, Fener has been hugely unhelpful.
He has offered no explanation for D'riss, not commented on other cases, not presented anyone else he feels suspicious about.
He is striking me like a symp at the moment.
And now people are advocating that we lynch based on Fener being silenced and voting D'riss. Because that might mean Fener knows D'riss is scum. Is that your first assumption every time someone votes someone else without reasoning? Or does being silenced somehow make it more likely, silenced scum-knowing roles being so common (and I'm not even talking just M&P here. Even without of M&P, that is not a common role. I'm not even sure if it's a role I've even seen)
And you know what, whatever his restrictions, Fener has been hugely unhelpful.
He has offered no explanation for D'riss, not commented on other cases, not presented anyone else he feels suspicious about.
He is striking me like a symp at the moment.
But testable to the speculation but if you don't want to vote out D'riss to test the theory then we can drill Fener with a bunch of yes no questions and have him respond with either
or just to get more information.Yeah, if Fener ever shows up. I know he isn't a finder. I want to ask him why he's got such a boner for me. His vote and disapperance have dominated day 2 and he is nowhere to be found. I think it will help move things along if you hear it from his mouth that he isn't a finder and just has a feeling that I am scum.
but this comment from d'riss saying he knows fener is not a finder rings super-scummy to me. there are only two reasons d'riss would truly have this information: one, d'riss is the finder and has already checked out fener, or two, d'riss is paired with fener as a lover and fener is distancing himself from d'riss (really a stretch if you ask me).
otherwise, d'riss is claiming things he can't know
explanation?
Vote D'riss
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Posted 22 August 2011 - 11:20 PM
note, it is still not the end of the day, and while i hate voting with TS, who is scummy as ever, i think the highest likelihood for hitting a leader is within this fener/d'riss clusterfuck. more gut than anything, but i await more explanation from either of them before changing this direction.
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Posted 23 August 2011 - 02:09 AM
fener, really, you need to be putting together more than that. especially if you are switching votes after a two day hard on. no ability, very little content, not a finder (according to d'riss). so far very disappointing
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Posted 23 August 2011 - 02:12 AM
Thyrllan must first apologise for abdicating this thread for so long, but Thyrllan has penguin found himself particularly busy in the world beyond. As such, Thyrllan has also found no time to go over posts, but Thyrllan hopes to be able to do that tomorrow morning/early afternoon. Until that time, Thyrllan will continue to hold on to his vote.
And Thyrllan must now laugh loudly. Ha ha ha! Thyrllan was all set to suggest to Telas that penguin perhaps the reason D'riss know Fener is no finder has nothing to do with D'riss being scummy, and everything to do with D'riss being inno and so knowing that if Fener was a real finder, Fener would know this too had Fener investigaed D'riss. Perhaps that was all D'riss was suggesting. But the point has now become moot in any case, as Fener has just graced us with his picturesque presence to declare that Fener has no ability, and so presumably was only acting on gut feeling.
Thyrllan now wishes that Fener would attempt to give some reason for voting Tulas Shorn rather than penguin anyone else.
Thyrllan will return with his vote tomorrow, barring sudden revelations from others penguin.
And Thyrllan must now laugh loudly. Ha ha ha! Thyrllan was all set to suggest to Telas that penguin perhaps the reason D'riss know Fener is no finder has nothing to do with D'riss being scummy, and everything to do with D'riss being inno and so knowing that if Fener was a real finder, Fener would know this too had Fener investigaed D'riss. Perhaps that was all D'riss was suggesting. But the point has now become moot in any case, as Fener has just graced us with his picturesque presence to declare that Fener has no ability, and so presumably was only acting on gut feeling.
Thyrllan now wishes that Fener would attempt to give some reason for voting Tulas Shorn rather than penguin anyone else.
Thyrllan will return with his vote tomorrow, barring sudden revelations from others penguin.
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Posted 23 August 2011 - 02:20 AM
if fener can retaliate so quickly with pictures saying scum and holding up the birdie, I am failing to see why he isn't spending more time explaining himself.
plus, now i think he is faking it, considering how he can edit text out of posts, which seems very suspicious for someone who is silenced.
remove vote
Vote Fener
plus, now i think he is faking it, considering how he can edit text out of posts, which seems very suspicious for someone who is silenced.
remove vote
Vote Fener
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Posted 23 August 2011 - 02:31 AM
Telas, on 23 August 2011 - 02:20 AM, said:
if fener can retaliate so quickly with pictures saying scum and holding up the birdie, I am failing to see why he isn't spending more time explaining himself.
plus, now i think he is faking it, considering how he can edit text out of posts, which seems very suspicious for someone who is silenced.
remove vote
Vote Fener
plus, now i think he is faking it, considering how he can edit text out of posts, which seems very suspicious for someone who is silenced.
remove vote
Vote Fener
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Posted 23 August 2011 - 02:34 AM
Telas, on 23 August 2011 - 02:09 AM, said:
fener, really, you need to be putting together more than that. especially if you are switching votes after a two day hard on. no ability, very little content, not a finder (according to d'riss). so far very disappointing
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Posted 23 August 2011 - 02:36 AM
Thyrllan, on 19 August 2011 - 10:29 PM, said:
D, on 19 August 2011 - 10:05 PM, said:
whats the plan for the weekend? is there a freeze? I am gone all of saturday and much of sunday.
Thyrllan providentially informs D'riss that there is a freeze on the clock but the game carries on regardless of monster or mortal.
Thyrllan, on 21 August 2011 - 02:04 AM, said:
Oh! Even perfect Thyrllan forgot to respond to one other piece of Silanah's suppositions. Silanah claims that Thyrllan acts arrogantly and audaciously. Well, Thyrllan would not be Thyrllan if he did not! Thyrllan dares Silanah, when Silanah becomes a ruler and repository of highest Light - nay, it's very essence - then let us see if Silanah can constantly remain humble.
Notice anything missing? Fluke? I think so
Well that is disappointing. Still think there is scum off the lynch train, only now driss is equally as suspect as the other 2 (3 if you don't count me and tulas as on the train)
