[Thyrllan]

Ruse, on 05 October 2011 - 01:02 PM, said:

@Thyr

Gotcha. I just didn't remember.

All good.

Now, if only there were a couple more people posting... There are plenty enough reading!

[Silanah]

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 01:03 PM, said:

Silanah, on 05 October 2011 - 12:57 PM, said:

16 users reading this topic.

I read through, not particularly impressed by Tiam's wordthoughts, I see a lynch incoming.

I don't have time right now to make any cases, but we should start looking, if Tiam is lynched, we don't have a lot of information to work with.

Although, I forgot about emur. Didn't he start all of this?

I disagree, we'll have their CF information, and at the very least we'll have cleared the air, and have less distractions. The only thing worrying me is that we're missing something by focussing on Tiam so much.

Well... let's vote Tiam, and examine others. I will once I get home and finish all my work. Hopefully before night.

[Thyrllan]

Yeah, I think I'm going to get some sleep, and see what's happening in the morning.

[Path-Shaper]

It is 227 AD (Day 3). 16 hours and 44 minutes remaining
23 Players still alive: Atrahal, Barghast, Emurlahn, Galain, Hood's Path, Karosis, Kaschan, Kessobahn, Korlat, Meanas, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Silanah, Sorritt, Telas, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tiamatha

12 votes to lynch, 12 votes to go to night.

7 Votes for Tiamatha ( Osseric, Mockra, Sorritt, Karosis, Kessobahn, Rashan, Silanah )

Players not voted: Atrahal, Barghast, Emurlahn, Galain, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Korlat, Meanas, Okaros, Omtose, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Telas, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tiamatha

[Kaschan]

It looks like most will be stuck on Tiam until they are gone, which isn't too surprising. Though I am a bit surprised that almost all suspicions of Emu have disappeared. There is plenty of time left in the day, so I'll hold off my vote for now.

[Karosis]

Kaschan, on 05 October 2011 - 01:56 PM, said:

It looks like most will be stuck on Tiam until they are gone, which isn't too surprising. Though I am a bit surprised that almost all suspicions of Emu have disappeared. There is plenty of time left in the day, so I'll hold off my vote for now.

Emu suspicion seems such a long time ago...what was the case again?

i remember a misplaced comma... and he mentioned civil service exams or something?




edit - sivil >> civil ...and coma >> comma

This post has been edited by Karosis: 05 October 2011 - 02:22 PM

[Mockra]

I think there was also a supposed signalling link to Tiamatha early on - an "I like you" response to something Tiam said. At least, I seem to remember that was Emur. Interestingly, it was noted that Emur said after the Serc lynch and when attention went back on Tiam that people should just learn to let go of the Tiam thing, or something along those lines.

[Mockra]

Emurlahn, on 04 October 2011 - 08:43 PM, said:

back from nap (good)

gotta go to class and then work (bad)



people still can't move on past Tiam, it seems. to thepoint of failing reading comprehension.

This comment.

[Okaros]

Galain, on 05 October 2011 - 07:13 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 05 October 2011 - 06:38 AM, said:

Aaaaand noone's around...
Figures.

Pretty soon I'm gonna start talking with myself...

25 player game, what the fuck, I got my own timezone or something?

I feel your pain.

I'm reluctant to speculate about the Usurper, because I'm apparently not as good as other people seem to be at reading P-S story clues. Or maybe I'm just too used to ignoring scenes, and people in this game are reading a lot into their symbolism. That might be the right choice, but I'll leave it to others to interpret the clues, if they exist.

Serc's possible reveal is, to my mind, still an open question. It simply wasn't answered by their death ... nor was your status. Some people are too willing to move on past the reveal, and discount it now that Gamelon and Serc have been dis-associated.

Sorrit, on 05 October 2011 - 07:28 AM, said:

Okay maybe my case was a bit warped, I did find it interesting that other people came on to dismiss the case and want to look elsewhere rather than at Tiam. I'll have a good read through today, Hood's Path popped on early and I didn't even realise he was playing, 5 posts out of over 600 from everyone, someone trying to lay low? He hasn't voted has he, or contributed much and he hasn't been mentioned by anyone which is good if you were the Usurper. Staying out of the limelight like he is I wonder what he is hiding

Tiamatha, on 05 October 2011 - 08:08 AM, said:

Tiamatha has joined #Rot3K

@Tiam sets mode: +Tiamatha

<@Tiam> Hey Tiamatha, how's it going?

<+Tiamatha> My joints ache like I've been run over by a truck -- and this fever is shaking me up. Plus I'm not exactly eager for today, since I'm a prime candidate for a lynch.

<@Tiam> Ouch - Sorry to hear about that. What did you do to get yourself in such a lynchable position by the way?

<+Tiamatha> Beats me. I guess mainly because I talk the talk and walk the walk. Yesterday's 'Flavor of the Day' was me being an Empress, a Warlord and the Usurper - when in reality I'm simply the best thing since sliced bread and melted cheese. Today's 'Flavor of the Day' is me being Cen Pi and a Xia jackal.

<@Tiam> Cen Pi? How did that name fly out?

<+Tiamatha> I don't even know. A supposed 'successful' find, which people believe without questioning.

<@Tiam> Finders are nasty folks.

<+Tiamatha> True that. Especially in a M&P game, they are quite valuable. In a Faction game as well, but there have been some controversies.

<@Tiam> Controversies? What do you mean?

<+Tiamatha> Well, look at that Cen Pi fellow for example. D'rek have been kind enough to provide us with a link where she gives a rundown on all the characters that have participated so far in the Rot3K games, and she bolded blue the names of the fellows who are still alive, and possibly / probably having a place in this last game as well.

<@Tiam> Oh, yea, I know about that, I read it in extension -- It's very informative, plus you get to find out stuff about the lore, what happened in previous games, and what are these guys upto now.

<+Tiamatha> So, according to that, Cen Pi has been dishing it out with the rest of his Xia hommies against Gongsun Zan, while Cen Pi's pimp, Yuan Shao, takes care of shit down in the south. Both do well in their respective campaigns to secure their neighborhoods and Yuan Shao becomes Pimp Emperor, while Cen Pi runs down the drug/prostitution rings up north. And that's where our game starts.

<@Tiam> Your point being?

<+Tiamatha> My point being is that Cen Pi's starting location has to be Xin Du - Since he's maintaining discipline on the illegal rings on the northern boarders while keeping the rival gang of Gongsun Zan from invading in his turf.

<@Tiam> Hmm.. Well, it makes some sense. So, what comes after that?

<+Tiamatha> Well, insert TopDog He Qi.

<@Tiam> Who's that champ?

<+Tiamatha> He's a lackey of Pimp Huang Zhong. It's the Yan gang settled on the South Side. Never the less, in comes He Qi.

<@Tiam> What's his story?

<+Tiamatha> TopDog He Qi supposely had a meeting with Ma "Sir" Liang, a subordinate of Pimp Zhang Xiu of the Lu gang, who operates the North. So, they would meet in Jiang Xia, which is a neighborhood deep into Yan controlled territory. There, witnesses saw He Qi accuse Ma Liang of disrespect, then pulled out his piece and popped Liang's ass. Federal Agents collected shells from the scene, and linked He Qi with Ma Liang's death.

<@Tiam> What does that have to do with Cen Pi though?

<+Tiamatha> We'll get to that. Moving on with TopDog He Qi, at sometime he fell ill with some sort of STD, and had to spend time in Jiang Xia, under the protection of the Yan gang. But his Pimp, Huang Zhong was unhappy that his northern neighborhoods have been invaded by Xia jackals, risking his drug trade, so he send He Qi back north to deal with them. And somewhere there, north, He Qi died.

<@Tiam> So, TopDog He Qi has been moving a lot around then? He must have some decked out, pimped wheels, for sure.

<+Tiamatha> Probably yea. But the deal is that we get from two separate sources that he spend time in Jiang Xia. First he had to be there to kill Ma "Sir" Liang, and then he had to stay there to recover from the STD he picked up from his days up north. So there's a very good chance that TopDog He Qi started the game at the northern turf of the Yan gang, then moved back into Jiang Xia to spend Night 1 - so he could meet up with his Pimp, and get his marching orders for the next day, as well.

<@Tiam> So you think that He Qi was in Jiang Xia during Night 1?

<+Tiamatha> It's very possible, at least the field reports hint that way. So, if Cen Pi started the game in Xin Du, and He Qi spend Night 1 in Jiang Xia, then even if Cen Pi moved during Day 1, he could only go as far as Luo Yang. So how the hell was a 'Find' NA by He Qi able to 'reach' Luo Yang turf, and be 'successful' to boot when Godfather Path-Shaper clearly states that "If you use a standard NA on a target that is not in your location or an adjacent location (in my lingo, an "Out-of-range" action), it will not do any blocking (or anything else). Basically, all out-of-range actions submitted are immediately discarded at the start of NA resolution and not considered further."

<@Tiam> You are asking me? I'm your fucking alter ego, a creation of your deranged mind. How the fuck should I know? Don't you know?

<+Tiamatha> Well... I have no fucking clue, to be honest.

<@Tiam> Sigh... I feel for you, dude. It's still probably not gonna be enough to save your ass from getting ganged.

<+Tiamatha> Tell me about it. But I'm getting tired... I got a piece though, and I know how to use it, so I'm gonna take as many motherfuckers down with me as I can. Never the less, I feel physically weak now, so I'm gonna lay down and get some sleep. Talk to you soon, dude. Peace.

<@Tiam> Hey dude, before you go, let me ask you one question.

<+Tiamatha> What's up?

<@Tiam> <whisper> It's just the two of us now. You and me. Noone else around. So, off the record. Are you an Emperor? Are you a Warlord? Are you the Usurper? Or even this Cen Pi guy?

<+Tiamatha>

I think Tiam would have had a better chance when we thought the reveal was true. I'm pretty sure Serc was voted off on the chance that he/she had a more dangerous role than Tiam. Yet here Tiam is denying that the reveal was true to begin with. It really limits what we can now do. I was somewhat confident that the find could be trusted, especially when Serc's CF indicates that he had a finder ability. It is now no longer about trust in Serc, but distrust of Tiam.

Vote Tiamatha


I will be around for a couple hours before class for discussion and such.

[Okaros]

Mockra, on 05 October 2011 - 02:33 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 04 October 2011 - 08:43 PM, said:

back from nap (good)

gotta go to class and then work (bad)



people still can't move on past Tiam, it seems. to thepoint of failing reading comprehension.

This comment.

Possible symp. I have not really payed attention to Emur since day 1. I think I'll go back and take a look.

[Karosis]

he has been scarce since day one...but that is understandable

[Hood's Path]

I personally think that Serc's reveal is correct. He is a member of Yan so he likely started out in

Yong An
Jiang Xia
Eight Fan
He Fei

Since he did a find on Tiamatha and it came back as Cen Pi a member of the Xia dynasty then he was most likely in He Fei when he did his find.

At first I had trouble believing the find because Cen Pi was tasked with fighting the GongSun along the northern border. How could Serc do a find on a player that is supposed to be two cities away?

When you take into the OP message about the barbarians able to waltz into an empty village then it makes sense. Cen Pi must have moved from Xin Du to Luo Yang thus moving into range of Serc's ablility to find him. It's blatantly obvious that Tiamatha is a member of Xia.

One of the easiest slam dunk cases that you can make

vote Tiamatha

Busy at work today so won't be on much today.

[Okaros]

Hood, on 05 October 2011 - 03:06 PM, said:

I personally think that Serc's reveal is correct. He is a member of Yan so he likely started out in

Yong An
Jiang Xia
Eight Fan
He Fei

Since he did a find on Tiamatha and it came back as Cen Pi a member of the Xia dynasty then he was most likely in He Fei when he did his find.

At first I had trouble believing the find because Cen Pi was tasked with fighting the GongSun along the northern border. How could Serc do a find on a player that is supposed to be two cities away?

When you take into the OP message about the barbarians able to waltz into an empty village then it makes sense. Cen Pi must have moved from Xin Du to Luo Yang thus moving into range of Serc's ablility to find him. It's blatantly obvious that Tiamatha is a member of Xia.

One of the easiest slam dunk cases that you can make

vote Tiamatha

Busy at work today so won't be on much today.

Guess we can assume you are not part of Xia then...

[Okaros]

But then, if the reveal is true than those of us voting for Tiam are probably not Xia either, I suppose. But Tiam says that Serc's find was false. Obviously something is off here.

[Okaros]

Is anyone out there!? Ok, well this is dead. I am going to get ready to leave. I'll be back in a few hours.

[Korlat]

I think it is clear that tIam is proving a big distraction, if she is kept around there will be little else focused on, we'll end up treading over the same ground, especially since tiam seems to think she is the only one capable of making a valid point, the last few posts while amusing have been somewhat condescending, I agree that she tends to focus on herself without offering much else although she can when she looks away from herself for a moment, like the case on mockra yesterday, why instead of going 'oh I am sooo going to be killed because you are all idiots' can't she push a case she believes is a better option?

[Tennes]

Back and caught up.

Osseric, on 05 October 2011 - 07:12 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 04 October 2011 - 08:43 PM, said:

back from nap (good)

gotta go to class and then work (bad)



people still can't move on past Tiam, it seems. to thepoint of failing reading comprehension.

Looking at the post count, Emurlahn is one of the highest poster. And yet I don't remember him confronting any of the other players, and coming out with anything of value except the occasional nodding to what is said and facebook posts. Besides also the comma business which he handled miserably.

You keep saying Yan is the biggest faction. Where do you get that? What's your point? You want to hunt Yan, say it. Don't just drop some lame hints and complain that people don't get them. You want to hunt Yan? Serc was Yan. What did Serc do? What did Serc say? You want to do something and get your ideas through instead of cruising along? Cause so far Emurlahn is hiding in plain sight.

This is a good post. After gaining huge heat on day one. Emur basically vanishes. But it definately can be seen by this post that he is still trying to manipulate where we are looking. I would be fine with a Tiam lynch, or an Emur lynch.

Emur, for a classic overextension followed by a vanishing act. Tiam..well, because all we seem to be able to talk about it Tiam. Her lynch would get us moving forward, as well as shed some light a little better on Faction lines.

[Tennes]

Also, to whoever said Tiam was in He Fei on night one.. more likely he was in Luo Yang. Serc seemed to be a general of some sort.probably on the outlskirts of Yan territory. More likely he was in He Fei and Tiam was in Luo Yang. This might mean that Tiam is in the upper eschelon of the Xia power structure.

[Korlat]

Tennes, on 05 October 2011 - 04:21 PM, said:

Back and caught up.

Osseric, on 05 October 2011 - 07:12 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 04 October 2011 - 08:43 PM, said:

back from nap (good)

gotta go to class and then work (bad)



people still can't move on past Tiam, it seems. to thepoint of failing reading comprehension.

Looking at the post count, Emurlahn is one of the highest poster. And yet I don't remember him confronting any of the other players, and coming out with anything of value except the occasional nodding to what is said and facebook posts. Besides also the comma business which he handled miserably.

You keep saying Yan is the biggest faction. Where do you get that? What's your point? You want to hunt Yan, say it. Don't just drop some lame hints and complain that people don't get them. You want to hunt Yan? Serc was Yan. What did Serc do? What did Serc say? You want to do something and get your ideas through instead of cruising along? Cause so far Emurlahn is hiding in plain sight.

This is a good post. After gaining huge heat on day one. Emur basically vanishes. But it definately can be seen by this post that he is still trying to manipulate where we are looking. I would be fine with a Tiam lynch, or an Emur lynch.

Emur, for a classic overextension followed by a vanishing act. Tiam..well, because all we seem to be able to talk about it Tiam. Her lynch would get us moving forward, as well as shed some light a little better on Faction lines.

More than the day 1 signalling case I find the way emur slipped under the radar and makes a lot of post with little content but likes to point the finger a lot more suspicious. I think it would be interesting to see what he has to say and he would be a good avenue to explore and hopefully this time he will not just dismiss everyones concerns but actually answer them.

[Sorrit]

I would be happy to switch my vote to Emur for the reasons stated above, Tiam has given us nothing with the amount of pressure building on him whereas Emur could let something slip, we have enough time yet to decide which one would be the better lynch