[Rashan]

Telas, there may be less information tomorrow from today, but as long as Tiam is around, most of the posting will be about her, which can tell us indirectly about others but limits the amount of pressure we can put on others since we are focused on her. We need to remove her before we can get adequate conversation about other targets going (Tiam, as you've noticed, really likes attention).

Vote Tiam

[Telas]

Rashan, on 05 October 2011 - 11:09 AM, said:

Telas, there may be less information tomorrow from today, but as long as Tiam is around, most of the posting will be about her, which can tell us indirectly about others but limits the amount of pressure we can put on others since we are focused on her. We need to remove her before we can get adequate conversation about other targets going (Tiam, as you've noticed, really likes attention).

Vote Tiam

I agree, and I'm be perfectly willing to lynch Tiam today. However, the intelligent way to go about it would have been to delay the whole yeah me too! sort of thing going on right now. As it stands there's no incentive for anyone to say anything not directly related to Tiam.

[Barghast]

Telas, on 05 October 2011 - 11:14 AM, said:

Rashan, on 05 October 2011 - 11:09 AM, said:

Telas, there may be less information tomorrow from today, but as long as Tiam is around, most of the posting will be about her, which can tell us indirectly about others but limits the amount of pressure we can put on others since we are focused on her. We need to remove her before we can get adequate conversation about other targets going (Tiam, as you've noticed, really likes attention).

Vote Tiam

I agree, and I'm be perfectly willing to lynch Tiam today. However, the intelligent way to go about it would have been to delay the whole yeah me too! sort of thing going on right now. As it stands there's no incentive for anyone to say anything not directly related to Tiam.

This. Unfortunately, both yesterday and today, Tiam (unlike 85% of your average primary lynch target) has made no effort to bring attention to someone else, giving us neither an alternative and no future avenue of further inquiry. That in itself may be resignation to their fate, but after all the long posts with theory and their recent post, it is clearly obvious that Tiam has time to post, and the brains required to think of something when they feel they need to. If the OP contained a Jester role, then Tiam's playstyle would imho be almost textbook play on how to get and keep attention and on how to not get the train derailed.

For the record: I'm not scaremongering. I don't think there is a Jester, in fact, I'm as convinced as I can be that there is none.

[Thyrllan]

I'm around, and catching up.

[Osseric]

I didn't mean to advocate a speedy lynch; but when I came, there was already a third of the day passed and nothing much was happening.

I, for one, would like to hear from Emurlahn (and I don't mean to tell us what is the next step in his schedule.)

[Karosis]

Telas, on 05 October 2011 - 10:55 AM, said:

Karosis, on 05 October 2011 - 10:51 AM, said:

Telas, on 05 October 2011 - 10:39 AM, said:

This certainly is a speedy build up.

You do of course realize that piling up on Tiamatha like this means we will be left with no information tomorrow, right? Approaching the day in this manner gives every other player a free pass.

Ah well. I understand that a lynch of Tiam is practical simply to remove a distraction, but it might have been prudent to give people the chance to speak of something else, no?

How much time do we have left anyways?

erm....he aint lynched yet

Nor did I say he was.

well you are moaning as if he is...

[Ruse]

I voted for Tiam yesterday, and I'm perfectly happy to put my vote down there again. I'm entertained by his recent long posts, but not necessarily impressed so to speak.

As for alternative targets, I have two places I'd be willing to look. Lurking cruisers at the bottem of the post count and Emurlahn, who has posted remarkably little and thumbed his nose at the results despite having sparked off this entire damn thing to begin with. It strikes me as a well played indifference while the wave of attention flows elsewhere.

[Ruse]

I made the thread die I see.

[Barghast]

Ruse, on 05 October 2011 - 12:06 PM, said:

I made the thread die I see.

Murderer.

[Ruse]

Barghast, on 05 October 2011 - 12:20 PM, said:

Ruse, on 05 October 2011 - 12:06 PM, said:

I made the thread die I see.

Murderer.

Says the man with human skull jewelry.

[Thyrllan]

Tiam's lynching feels a bit like it's inevitable, but I'd like to see some holding back on the voting and see what else comes up today.

Tiam is either Xia, according to Serc's find reveal, and therefore anyone who is not Xia has no particularly good reason to want her alive. Otherwise, if Serc's reveal was bollocks, I'm kinda curious to see who exactly Tiam is. But at the same time, I'm tired, and a little bit worried, about all the attention Tiam has received. We haven't really looked at anyone else at all. Tiam made a case for Mockra symping Serc, but that came off more as a retort than a serious case. Anyone else we should perhaps be looking at?

[Ruse]

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 12:35 PM, said:

Tiam's lynching feels a bit like it's inevitable, but I'd like to see some holding back on the voting and see what else comes up today.

Tiam is either Xia, according to Serc's find reveal, and therefore anyone who is not Xia has no particularly good reason to want her alive. Otherwise, if Serc's reveal was bollocks, I'm kinda curious to see who exactly Tiam is. But at the same time, I'm tired, and a little bit worried, about all the attention Tiam has received. We haven't really looked at anyone else at all. Tiam made a case for Mockra symping Serc, but that came off more as a retort than a serious case. Anyone else we should perhaps be looking at?

I agree, that's why I'm not voting yet.

Do you have any specific ideas? If nothing really meaty comes from a Tiam lynch or night results, I think we need some stepping up of pressure onto the lower posters to see what they cough up.

[Ruse]

HP, Kaschan and Thyr were not on any trains. Despite voting (then removing), interestingly Tiam didn't actually end any days on a single train.

Since you're here, what's your excuse Thyr?

[Meanas]

I'm only here for a couple of minutes, but will be back again later hopefully. I agree with the notice of Emurlahn, as I suggested before, that could be someone worth looking at as well. Their quantity as opposed to quality of posts has been noted - a hiding in plain sight. So there are things for us to look at after Tiamatha's lynch, if that's the way the day goes.

Moreover, with each CF you can put more pieces together about who's in what faction, so I for one don't see any dead ends resulting from the focus on Tiamatha.

[Meanas]

17 users, wowsers. Well, I'm off again.

[Silanah]

16 users reading this topic.

I read through, not particularly impressed by Tiam's wordthoughts, I see a lynch incoming.

I don't have time right now to make any cases, but we should start looking, if Tiam is lynched, we don't have a lot of information to work with.

Although, I forgot about emur. Didn't he start all of this?

[Thyrllan]

Ruse, on 05 October 2011 - 12:38 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 12:35 PM, said:

Tiam's lynching feels a bit like it's inevitable, but I'd like to see some holding back on the voting and see what else comes up today.

Tiam is either Xia, according to Serc's find reveal, and therefore anyone who is not Xia has no particularly good reason to want her alive. Otherwise, if Serc's reveal was bollocks, I'm kinda curious to see who exactly Tiam is. But at the same time, I'm tired, and a little bit worried, about all the attention Tiam has received. We haven't really looked at anyone else at all. Tiam made a case for Mockra symping Serc, but that came off more as a retort than a serious case. Anyone else we should perhaps be looking at?

I agree, that's why I'm not voting yet.

Do you have any specific ideas? If nothing really meaty comes from a Tiam lynch or night results, I think we need some stepping up of pressure onto the lower posters to see what they cough up.

Not particularly, otherwise I would have posted them
Aside from the possibility of Mockra's symping, and Emurlahn's bumbling getting him off a day one train, and then his high posting but very low content.

Ruse, on 05 October 2011 - 12:45 PM, said:

HP, Kaschan and Thyr were not on any trains. Despite voting (then removing), interestingly Tiam didn't actually end any days on a single train.

Since you're here, what's your excuse Thyr?

I missed the end of Day 1, I believe I stated that.
Day 2 I was vacillating over who to vote for and watching the two trains. Eventually decided I on Serc, but he was L-1 for a fairly decent chunk of yesterday, or close to it, and since there were plenty of people around volunteering to hammer, I figured I wasn't really necessary to proceedings.

[Ruse]

@Thyr

Gotcha. I just didn't remember.

[Thyrllan]

Silanah, on 05 October 2011 - 12:57 PM, said:

16 users reading this topic.

I read through, not particularly impressed by Tiam's wordthoughts, I see a lynch incoming.

I don't have time right now to make any cases, but we should start looking, if Tiam is lynched, we don't have a lot of information to work with.

Although, I forgot about emur. Didn't he start all of this?

I disagree, we'll have their CF information, and at the very least we'll have cleared the air, and have less distractions. The only thing worrying me is that we're missing something by focussing on Tiam so much.

[Silanah]

Vote Tiam

For all the previously mentioned reasons.