[Hood's Path]

Silanah, on 18 October 2011 - 01:54 AM, said:

Hmm. He won in Omtose Vs Karosis because I switched my vote based on what little evidence was available. (I was influenced by Emur's assertion that there is a strong chance of Karosis being 3 kingdoms). He managed to avoid notice because Galain became the target of the day. If there is any deflection going on, it's from Emur.

I made this theory before, but the only person to respond to it bit my head off (Shel?).

If Karosis turns out to be a barb, Emur is as well. If he turns out to be Xia rank and file, Emur is likely the emperor. If Karosis turns out to be an emperor, Emur is likely also of the Xia faction.

With that

Vote Karosis

Also, I'd say since I switched my vote from him to Omtose he has been rather friendly toward me. I HATE NICE PEOPLE.

To answer your question directly, I think IF I am right, it's a combination of all of those factors.

I have to leave. My housing situation is fucked up, currently. Which messed with my schedule today.

As I said, I'll be on before lynch. I'd like to see a Karosis vote, but I'm willing to change if need be.

I am more then happy to get this lynch train going for a third time. Since I'm getting no play on the Barghast train even though I put together a very good case which in of itself is very telling. Barghast can't be part of two different factions now can he?



remove vote

vote Karosis

[Emurlahn]

Kaschan, on 18 October 2011 - 03:04 AM, said:

The problem I have with providing quality posts is in the same vein I have with posting at all. Both take time, obviously one more than the other. I previously picked out Tennes as a suspect for being Sima Yi, or one of the recruits, based on his previous post regarding the number of possible recruits. In terms of pointing the game away from the cult, that would have to be Emu. There have been a few days in a row where Emu was tossing out who he thought were barbs and/or pushing the fact we need to start lynching barbarians, as he thought they could have faction sizes approaching the 3 kingdom folks, It's possible he mentioned the cult in there somewhere, but I don't recall it. He's not the only one who has gone that route, just the one who stiicks out the most because of how active he is. In general, what I find alarming, and the reason I bring up the Usurper/cult in most of my recent posts, is that very few people even mention it.

que?
bullshit.

I was never the one to champion the barb hunt. I've gone along with it, yes, but i've never been the one to say "guys we need to lynch barbs". in fact, i've quite consistently (to the point of ad nauseum) stated that barbs must me 2-3 ppl big, and Yan was the biggest faction.


also, since we are talking about Sima Yi (and the reason we weren't talking about him much is b/c his recruits are worthless untill their emperor dies, if I recall the wall o' rules correctly), i'll let you know that my gut is screaming that Silanah is Sima Yi. and no, I have absolutely 0 evidence to back up this claim.

[Path-Shaper]

It is 232 AD. 13 hours and 1 minute remaining
15 Players still alive: Atrahal, Barghast, Emurlahn, Hood's Path, Karosis, Kaschan, Kessobahn, Korlat, Okaros, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Silanah, Telas, Tennes, Thyrllan

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Karosis ( Silanah, Hood's Path )
3 Votes for Kaschan ( Barghast, Tennes, Emurlahn )
1 Vote for Telas ( Sheltatha Lore )
1 Vote for Tennes ( Ruse )

Players not voted: Atrahal, Karosis, Kaschan, Kessobahn, Korlat, Okaros, Telas, Thyrllan

[Emurlahn]

Hood, on 18 October 2011 - 03:25 AM, said:

Silanah, on 18 October 2011 - 01:54 AM, said:

Hmm. He won in Omtose Vs Karosis because I switched my vote based on what little evidence was available. (I was influenced by Emur's assertion that there is a strong chance of Karosis being 3 kingdoms). He managed to avoid notice because Galain became the target of the day. If there is any deflection going on, it's from Emur.

I made this theory before, but the only person to respond to it bit my head off (Shel?).

If Karosis turns out to be a barb, Emur is as well. If he turns out to be Xia rank and file, Emur is likely the emperor. If Karosis turns out to be an emperor, Emur is likely also of the Xia faction.

With that

Vote Karosis

Also, I'd say since I switched my vote from him to Omtose he has been rather friendly toward me. I HATE NICE PEOPLE.

To answer your question directly, I think IF I am right, it's a combination of all of those factors.

I have to leave. My housing situation is fucked up, currently. Which messed with my schedule today.

As I said, I'll be on before lynch. I'd like to see a Karosis vote, but I'm willing to change if need be.

I am more then happy to get this lynch train going for a third time. Since I'm getting no play on the Barghast train even though I put together a very good case which in of itself is very telling. Barghast can't be part of two different factions now can he?



remove vote

vote Karosis

you know, for the longest time I wasn't sure which one of you two is barb and which one's kingdoms.



I'd be cool with a Barg vote, too, btw, but for now



remove vote

since Kas is trying to post.

vote HP

[Emurlahn]

actually, wait

remove vote
just read my PMs. there's an interesting notice in there.

[Emurlahn]

oki, this clusterfuck is too much for me right now.

i'm going off to shower/eat and probably sleep

before I do, I'll


vote Ruse



because everyone in my location received a notice that he ain't kingdoms.

which makes him Ma Chao or his champ.. now, I know there's a lot of people in my location, because illumination happened 3 days ago, and none of us died since. and since we ain't all on the same side, I doubt a lot of you managed to move away. ofc, this could be a BS notice, but i'm willing to take the chance.


i'll most likely not be on in the morning prior to lynch, so i'll stick with this vote for now. mathematically, it's the safest thing I can do.

[Ruse]

My guess is that notice came out from someone who is under fire right now, and needs to push attention on someone else. Kaschan or Karosis likely.

I don't know why I was singled out, but I assume it's because there is nobody around to defend me. It should be bloody obvious why (and certainly obvious to you Emur).

[Emurlahn]

well, i don't have anyhting much better to go on. I dislike the Karosis/Hp clusterfuck and I wish one of them would just kill the other so that we could get that over with.



the fact that no one's harping up to defend you is really a double-edged sword. no matted how you cut it, it's wifom galore. only one way to be sure.

[Ruse]

Yeah, but anyone can send a message - why believe it more than anything else?

Why not have the balls to say that on thread? Since the general concensus right now is to go after barbarians, making that accusation isnt exactly dangerous.

Sure, Meanas/Mockra could have lied, but they did it on thread where everyone playing could check the info against their own. No one has come out and said "Tennes couldn't have been there" for example. Anonymous notes though, those need to be taken with a grain of salt.

[Emurlahn]

i'm well aware of the risks. however, if I'm not mistaken, almost half the living players are at a single location right now. this message was clearly aimed at them.

[Karosis]

Ruse, on 18 October 2011 - 04:00 AM, said:

My guess is that notice came out from someone who is under fire right now, and needs to push attention on someone else. Kaschan or Karosis likely.

I don't know why I was singled out, but I assume it's because there is nobody around to defend me. It should be bloody obvious why (and certainly obvious to you Emur).

Well i've only just gotten a few votes swing my way so it wasnt me who sent it.
Ive been gone since last night...meh


I find these notices interesting.
They tend to be right, have been in the past.

[Karosis]

Ruse, on 18 October 2011 - 04:31 AM, said:

Yeah, but anyone can send a message - why believe it more than anything else?

no...not anyone.

D, on 24 August 2011 - 10:37 PM, said:

Players with the role type Civil Official, Military Officer or Usurper are able to use this ability:

Notice - All players in your location, regardless of faction, are given a message of your choosing. The message can consist of anything non-meta (ie: you may not say "Fener is Silencer!") but must be 6 words or less.

Could have been kaschan although last illumination he was not in our area.

[Karosis]

Im not too sure what to make of Ruse's thinking anyone can send a notice?

[Ruse]

D, on 24 August 2011 - 10:37 PM, said:

Players with the role type Civil Official, Military Officer or Usurper are able to use this ability:

Notice - All players in your location, regardless of faction, are given a message of your choosing. The message can consist of anything non-meta (ie: you may not say "Fener is Silencer!") but must be 6 words or less.

Notices are anonymous.

Notice also resolves via Ironman rules.

All players may only use Move or Notice once per day (total - they cannot both be used on the same day).

Reading fail. I only paid attention to the section below the bold, so I thought "All players may only use Move or Notice..." meant everyone could do it.

[Karosis]

Ok...well i've had a think about it.

If the notice is truthful...and Ruse is not kingdom.
And he can send notices himself since he believes that anyone can (could be playing dumb about that though)
That would mean that he is the Usurper.

If he is playing dumb then he maybe cant send notices and its still very high possibility that he is non kingdom as a result.


Vote Ruse


in the greater scheme of things i think its worth a shot going for him.
Its not like i can just ignore the intel.


I was hesitant and thinking that perhaps kaschan sent the notice as at the time he was getting heat.
But he was not in our area...so i doubt he came over here and said that in the last 2 days.

[Barghast]

Remove vote.
Vote Ruse.

Since, you know, there is this notice, and since I agree with Karosis' analysis that he may just be the usurper, I'm perfectly OK with lynching him. Death to all non-civilized people and all that. I do hope we get enough people online to manage it, however.

EDIT: 1: seperate lines for removal and voting.
EDIT 2: adding the info of edit 1.

This post has been edited by Barghast: 18 October 2011 - 07:55 AM

[Thyrllan]

So much deja vu I'm dizzy.

Osseric made the same mistake about notices. Suggesting Ruse is non kingdom because of the notices thing doesn't make sense, given that Osseric was kingdom too.

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but was it not only the last game day that we had a number of possible trains, then Emur came in, voted Galain and then lynch. Now we have Emur complaining (again) that the complications of the current trains are too much for his brain to handle, voting someone else (two someone elses actually) and matching the strongest train within three hours. On the basis of Notice which could have been sent by any official or the usurper.

What is this? Emur has voted, drop what you're doing and follow him? And no Emur, I'm not suggesting you're necessarily looking for followers, but you sure do seem to be finding them.

I know we had a weekend between the last game day and this one, but really!

Vote Karosis

Because in my opinion he's probably a barbarian. And screw your sheep train.

[Ruse]

I won't be on for a while, so I might as well get my info out there -

On night 2, Barghast, Silanah and Mockra were in Yong An with me.

I believe strongly that Silanah is a civil official of the Yan(unless he's swapped to military since then), because he came out gunning for Osseric as emperor like he had a find to back that info up. He was pushing Osseric as "Yan Emperor", but I believe that was just obfuscation to help hide his own identity.

BTW Karosis

Quote

And he can send notices himself since he believes that anyone can (could be playing dumb about that though)
That would mean that he is the Usurper.

I've never sent one, so that proves nothing either way. If I can send them, I would have kept on with my assumption that everyone could. If I can't send them, then D'rek would have let me know when I tried. As such, I have never sent one so my ignorance remained intact.

Mockra was in Yong An too, which backs up his claim of having only been one tile away (Jiang Xi) on Day 1.

Many of you had me pegged (Emurlahn included) as Lu earlier - funny Emur is so quick to change his mind based on someone's anonymouse message.

[Ruse]

Cross post with Thyr.

Exactly. I want to vote Emur because he IS leading people around. Strong candidate for an Emperor in my mind, along with Tennes.

Karosis tagging onto the vote quickly smells of barbarian (pun intended) jumping on a good opportunity.

I think the Usurper sent that message about me - if anyone has an illumination about who is on the square with Emur that would narrow the suspect field significantly.

[Ruse]

Also possible is Emur is a recruit who is playing the effective role of symp.