[Osseric]

Liosan, on 27 June 2011 - 02:29 PM, said:

Korbas, on 27 June 2011 - 02:21 PM, said:

So to create a straw man for the the beating

Signalling! The bastard is signalling! LYNCH HIM! LYNCH HIM NOW!!!!

Also - red avatar, checking in.

Liosan, on 27 June 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

So I guess that answers the age old question

"Who came first, Anthras or The Sun?"

Poor Sun

Liosan, on 27 June 2011 - 03:49 PM, said:

Korbas, on 27 June 2011 - 03:31 PM, said:

would the fluid evaporate before it reached the sun?

No, that wouldn't matter either way, I have it on good authority that the Sun's tubes are tied.

Liosan, on 28 June 2011 - 05:45 AM, said:

what is the TMDI level for this?
That might help determine if Anthras is right in guessing both the Lady and the Dominator having recruiting powers.

I will try to be around more tomorrow. G'night!

Ok, this is what I meant by Liosan/Anthras. I thought there was possibly some signalling going from Liosan to Anthras. It was the "red avatar" checking in, that I first thought was odd - Liosan and Anthras are the only ones with red avatars. Then going along with the Anthras humping the Sun jokes, he implies Anthras is comes before the sun, and he has it on "good authority". This seemed like possible signaling that Anthras is important and this information comes on good authority.

Liosan then leaves, comes back and manages to mention Anthras right away again.

But that is all weak day 1 shit, although it was enough to make me jot it in my notes.

That being said, I`m leaning towards a Tellan vote, because D`riss has a point, even after finally joining into the conversation, Tellan didnt add much content.


As for Barghast`s post, if Korbas was a big leader type, why would he share anything at all? That doesnt mean he`s honest because he`s a little guy but a big leader would more than likely horde information like that.

[Osseric]

Right now by my count, both Tellan and Anthras are at 3. I feel like my laying down a vote now could swing the lynch in a specific direction, but since I dont know anything about either of them, and there is still time before deadline to allow some leeway I will go ahead

Vote Tellan

[Ampelas]

I'm back for until I put the little one to bed. Then I should be around for a while after that. How much time do we have left?

[Ampelas]

Looks like we have split votes going on here. Like I said earlier Tellan is a good choice just for the fact that before his family emergency he didn't seem to put any effort into the content of the posts that he did make. I'll take a closer look at the other lynch candidate before I decide who to vote.

[Mockra]

Tellan is at 5, actually.
neither of the train reasons seems particularly strong, tbh

[Anthras]

Mockra, on 30 June 2011 - 03:52 AM, said:

Tellan is at 5, actually.
neither of the train reasons seems particularly strong, tbh

I didn't vote for Tellan originally for particularly strong reasons - the obvious course before I learned we had a CF was to attack low posters, and thin things out, and Tellan already had one vote ... so it seemed natural to just go with him, rather than to start a fresh pursuit at one vote when the other two options (Liosan and Rashan) were equally matched.

Then Korbas came up with his CF Role, things got complicated ... and Tellan chose to ride Korbas's train, and I think it was because he thought it would protect him. My original motives are no longer "low posters are all we've got," but, "people hooking up with a supposedly untouchable player are suspicious." It's someone who was rolling as a beneath-the-radar low poster (even before personal problems arose) trying to associate himself with non-Cult legitimacy.

[Ampelas]

Barghast, on 30 June 2011 - 03:17 AM, said:

I really don't trust Korbas. He keeps seeming to establish more and more rings of protection around himself, being untouchable as the first CF, directing lynching towards other people, and now has now been elevated to potential Narrator status as Croaker, which connotes neutrality backed by a lot of power in knowledge.

I for one do not like having an untouchable among us, especially when we only snipe at his ideas, wonder for whom he is covering, and yet follow his lead on lynches, plot line (yes, guilty here as well. I'm information starved too), and faction speculation.

I mean what else can we do? We don't have any other people admitting to being a CF and I would bet money that most of you know at least some of your teammates, except for RIs and maybe a wizard, soldier, or two. So it seems like we are just following his lead with a touch of cynicism to maintain 'objectivity.' AND WE DON"T EVEN KNOW WHO HE IS!

I actually have him currently pegged as a big cheese: Dominator, White Rose, or Lady. I don't want to give him more days if I can avoid it, fearing that he is waiting for an unlocking of abilities or a larger pool of recruited followers. Thus, even though it is a split vote (I do hope enough of you will follow, but it is a little late to have a sudden swing in votes I know), I must in good conscience:

Remove Vote
and
Vote Korbas
He needs to be dealt with unless someone can prove or [at least] convincingly argue he is relatively harmless ().


Btw...
To clarify, I don't trust Tellan entirely either.

@Tellan - I do believe your reasons for low posting and I too offer sympathies seeing as I have had close family in the hospital as well and can thus empathize with your burden.

That aside, you are too close to Korbas which smacks of danger to me, so I won't fight against what appears is to be your lynching tonight. But again, I wish you and your family the best.

You do have a point about how Korbas is setting himself up as a non lynch target but you also forget his reaction to the massive death total after night one. Is he playing excited noob overreacting or an excited puppetmaster who just pulled a massive move against us all. However I think there is a strong possibility that he would be a good night kill target. His death or non death tonight will be very telling.

[Ampelas]

Edit:

Double post

This post has been edited by Ampelas: 30 June 2011 - 04:33 AM

[Ampelas]

A thought just occured to me. We are singling out Tellan for his lack of content flying under the radar play style. Would someone playing that way not vote as well? not voting would be consistant with a low poster who just happened to miss the lynch on day one. But would a power role player trying to hide do a play like that to stay hidden? hmmmm

[Ampelas]

Mockra, on 30 June 2011 - 03:52 AM, said:

Tellan is at 5, actually.
neither of the train reasons seems particularly strong, tbh

Here is where I think the current votes stand

Votes for Tellan: Antrhas, Rashan, D'riss & Osseric
Votes for Anthras: Korbas, Tellan, Galain
Votes for Korabas: Barghast

Ampelas, Ruse, Omtose, Liosan, Mockra not voted.

Tellan needs 3
Anthras needs 4
Everybody else but Korabas needs 7 who needs 6

I have no idea how much time is left.

[Rashan]

remove vote

vote anthras

since I'd rather have a lynch then none

[Rashan]

Ampelas, on 30 June 2011 - 04:42 AM, said:

A thought just occured to me. We are singling out Tellan for his lack of content flying under the radar play style. Would someone playing that way not vote as well? not voting would be consistant with a low poster who just happened to miss the lynch on day one. But would a power role player trying to hide do a play like that to stay hidden? hmmmm

If they're really trying to sell it.....

[Rashan]

Ampelas, on 30 June 2011 - 04:51 AM, said:

Mockra, on 30 June 2011 - 03:52 AM, said:

Tellan is at 5, actually.
neither of the train reasons seems particularly strong, tbh

Here is where I think the current votes stand

Votes for Tellan: Antrhas, Rashan, D'riss & Osseric
Votes for Anthras: Korbas, Tellan, Galain
Votes for Korabas: Barghast

Ampelas, Ruse, Omtose, Liosan, Mockra not voted.

Tellan needs 3
Anthras needs 4
Everybody else but Korabas needs 7 who needs 6

I have no idea how much time is left.

read that as Tellan is at 3, Anthras at 4

Remove vote

Vote Tellan

[Ruse]

I won't be back before the day ends, so I'm going to give a few quick thoughts and lay down a vote.

I'm wary of Korbas but I agree with those who think we're getting at least partial truth in the CFs. For that reason, I say we give him at least another night and get more CF info from him. Well, that, and another reason...

About Tellan... I find this post from Barghast extremely suspicious:

Barghast, on 30 June 2011 - 03:17 AM, said:

I really don't trust Korbas. He keeps seeming to establish more and more rings of protection around himself, being untouchable as the first CF, directing lynching towards other people, and now has now been elevated to potential Narrator status as Croaker, which connotes neutrality backed by a lot of power in knowledge.

I for one do not like having an untouchable among us, especially when we only snipe at his ideas, wonder for whom he is covering, and yet follow his lead on lynches, plot line (yes, guilty here as well. I'm information starved too), and faction speculation.

I mean what else can we do? We don't have any other people admitting to being a CF and I would bet money that most of you know at least some of your teammates, except for RIs and maybe a wizard, soldier, or two. So it seems like we are just following his lead with a touch of cynicism to maintain 'objectivity.' AND WE DON"T EVEN KNOW WHO HE IS!

I actually have him currently pegged as a big cheese: Dominator, White Rose, or Lady. I don't want to give him more days if I can avoid it, fearing that he is waiting for an unlocking of abilities or a larger pool of recruited followers. Thus, even though it is a split vote (I do hope enough of you will follow, but it is a little late to have a sudden swing in votes I know), I must in good conscience:

Remove Vote
and
Vote Korbas
He needs to be dealt with unless someone can prove or [at least] convincingly argue he is relatively harmless ().


Btw...
To clarify, I don't trust Tellan entirely either.

@Tellan - I do believe your reasons for low posting and I too offer sympathies seeing as I have had close family in the hospital as well and can thus empathize with your burden.

That aside, you are too close to Korbas which smacks of danger to me, so I won't fight against what appears is to be your lynching tonight. But again, I wish you and your family the best.

Just as two more votes drop on Tellan, we get a big deflection from Barghast onto Korbas. Then at the end of his long diatribe he goes out of his way to cast a little suspicion on Tellan...who's on his way to being lynched. The comments are odd, too - "I won't fight against what appears to be your lynching tonight"? That is exactly what his whole post is about, trying to get people to choose another lynch victim - a total contradiction to what he says. If the CF is real and can be trusted, it benefits cult the most to remove him, and trying to shift a couple of trains onto someone who just revealed CF is not a cautious move. For this reason I think we should

Vote Tellan

and see what Korbas gives us on his CF (hopefully...). And then we should look at Barghast, maybe, if nothing new has presented itself. Barghast protecting Tellan and targeting Korbas is the strongest evidence of cult play I've seen so far this game. Even if I'm wrong, though, we would still be heeding Barghast's warning of following Korbas (who is voting Anthras).

[Ampelas]

So we have two trains going on here. After taking a look at the cases on both of the trains I find that they are fairly similar. People are putting pressure on players for their quality of content or lack there of in their posts. So my question to myself is who do I think would be the better choice for lynching?

[Rashan]

Barghast, on 30 June 2011 - 03:17 AM, said:

I really don't trust Korbas. He keeps seeming to establish more and more rings of protection around himself, being untouchable as the first CF, directing lynching towards other people, and now has now been elevated to potential Narrator status as Croaker, which connotes neutrality backed by a lot of power in knowledge.

I for one do not like having an untouchable among us, especially when we only snipe at his ideas, wonder for whom he is covering, and yet follow his lead on lynches, plot line (yes, guilty here as well. I'm information starved too), and faction speculation.

I mean what else can we do? We don't have any other people admitting to being a CF and I would bet money that most of you know at least some of your teammates, except for RIs and maybe a wizard, soldier, or two. So it seems like we are just following his lead with a touch of cynicism to maintain 'objectivity.' AND WE DON"T EVEN KNOW WHO HE IS!

I actually have him currently pegged as a big cheese: Dominator, White Rose, or Lady. I don't want to give him more days if I can avoid it, fearing that he is waiting for an unlocking of abilities or a larger pool of recruited followers. Thus, even though it is a split vote (I do hope enough of you will follow, but it is a little late to have a sudden swing in votes I know), I must in good conscience:

Remove Vote
and
Vote Korbas
He needs to be dealt with unless someone can prove or [at least] convincingly argue he is relatively harmless (public/style_emoticons/default/killingme.gif).


Btw...
To clarify, I don't trust Tellan entirely either.

@Tellan - I do believe your reasons for low posting and I too offer sympathies seeing as I have had close family in the hospital as well and can thus empathize with your burden.

That aside, you are too close to Korbas which smacks of danger to me, so I won't fight against what appears is to be your lynching tonight. But again, I wish you and your family the best.

You're really overhyping it barg, were not all constantly following his lead. For the most part Im just completely ignoring him because I happen to like CFs and imho he probably doesnt have a VC beyond whatever his current employer's VC is and survive. He's not untouchable and I wouldnt be surprised if a losing fraction with a NK eventually takes him out to obscure their remaining numbers.

And as for him being the Dom/WR/Lady - if he were he would not have fake-revealed the CFs so early in the day when so many people hadnt yet checked in for the day leaving himself horribly exposed to a counter-reveal and killing himself as well as costing his faction such an important role. There wouldnt be any smarts in that at all.

So why you so eager to get rid of the CF bargy???!!!!

[Rashan]

^^xpost with Ruse and Amp

Solid points there Ruse

[Ampelas]

I honestly have no feel either way as to who of these two players would most likely be on my team. I don't see this thing swinging back on Anthras in the limited amount of time (How much do we have anyway?) Besides I feel that of the two the one that is more likely to be hiding something would be Tellan.

vote Tellan

Now I'm off to bed myself.

[Rashan]

Ampelas, on 30 June 2011 - 05:20 AM, said:

I honestly have no feel either way as to who of these two players would most likely be on my team. I don't see this thing swinging back on Anthras in the limited amount of time (How much do we have anyway?) Besides I feel that of the two the one that is more likely to be hiding something would be Tellan.

vote Tellan

Now I'm off to bed myself.

by my count its between 1.5 and 2 hours left

[Osseric]

Rashan, on 30 June 2011 - 05:12 AM, said:

Barghast, on 30 June 2011 - 03:17 AM, said:

I really don't trust Korbas. He keeps seeming to establish more and more rings of protection around himself, being untouchable as the first CF, directing lynching towards other people, and now has now been elevated to potential Narrator status as Croaker, which connotes neutrality backed by a lot of power in knowledge.

I for one do not like having an untouchable among us, especially when we only snipe at his ideas, wonder for whom he is covering, and yet follow his lead on lynches, plot line (yes, guilty here as well. I'm information starved too), and faction speculation.

I mean what else can we do? We don't have any other people admitting to being a CF and I would bet money that most of you know at least some of your teammates, except for RIs and maybe a wizard, soldier, or two. So it seems like we are just following his lead with a touch of cynicism to maintain 'objectivity.' AND WE DON"T EVEN KNOW WHO HE IS!

I actually have him currently pegged as a big cheese: Dominator, White Rose, or Lady. I don't want to give him more days if I can avoid it, fearing that he is waiting for an unlocking of abilities or a larger pool of recruited followers. Thus, even though it is a split vote (I do hope enough of you will follow, but it is a little late to have a sudden swing in votes I know), I must in good conscience:

Remove Vote
and
Vote Korbas
He needs to be dealt with unless someone can prove or [at least] convincingly argue he is relatively harmless ().


Btw...
To clarify, I don't trust Tellan entirely either.

@Tellan - I do believe your reasons for low posting and I too offer sympathies seeing as I have had close family in the hospital as well and can thus empathize with your burden.

That aside, you are too close to Korbas which smacks of danger to me, so I won't fight against what appears is to be your lynching tonight. But again, I wish you and your family the best.

You're really overhyping it barg, were not all constantly following his lead. For the most part Im just completely ignoring him because I happen to like CFs and imho he probably doesnt have a VC beyond whatever his current employer's VC is and survive. He's not untouchable and I wouldnt be surprised if a losing fraction with a NK eventually takes him out to obscure their remaining numbers.

And as for him being the Dom/WR/Lady - if he were he would not have fake-revealed the CFs so early in the day when so many people hadnt yet checked in for the day leaving himself horribly exposed to a counter-reveal and killing himself as well as costing his faction such an important role. There wouldnt be any smarts in that at all.

So why you so eager to get rid of the CF bargy???!!!!

My thoughts were along these lines as well. If it is a deflection, makes me happier about a vote on Tellan.