[Path-Shaper]

Barghast, on 29 June 2011 - 06:54 PM, said:

So I really want to lynch Korbas (I think he is probably the Dominator or Lady), but I have to tread lightly since I'm a Rebel RI (btw, if choosing roles for mafia is in the least bit non-random, couldn't I have an ability some day? I feel so in the dark and sad being a RI ).

I also think that just like last mafia, I am completely blind as opposed to most everyone else, despite the feigned confusion and clusterfucking going on.

Simplistically, VCs are probably:
Rebels: Kill Lady and Dominator (probably need the WR powers to do so... so need to survive until then)
Dominator: Kill Lady and White Rose or survive until awakening
Soulcatchers: Kill Dominator and White Rose and/or recruit all the Circle members and/or have control of all live Taken and Circle

This means I want to knock off leaders, but I don't want to knock of WR if she is crucial for victory.

I am also confused with the whole recruiting concept. I am not sure how this game would work if there are recruiting wars back and forth with the clusterfuck of switching sides multiple times. I don't think rebel RIs are the only recruitable tinder considering that I actually may be the last one left...again, so sad

Good game Liz. Can't wait to get to SH to see the mechanics!!!

Path-Shaper, on 29 June 2011 - 07:14 PM, said:

I did the role division completely random, but I will certanly put this post into SH, so that maybe the next mod gives you a role other than RI/low fraction member.

You are not the only one who feels lost, but it gets a bit better with every game you play.



Also, I prefer if you keep the PM stuff in conversation. I find it easier to keep track of everything that way.

Liz

Path-Shaper, on 29 June 2011 - 09:27 PM, said:

Barghast, on 29 June 2011 - 08:10 PM, said:

So keep it in this conversation?

please

- T.

Barghast, on 30 June 2011 - 02:55 AM, said:

Shit shit shit shit. Sorry sorry sorry sorry.

I just posted as my real screen name and deleted as soon as I saw my Hood damned signature. I'll hold off for now, wait to see if anyone caught my words (though how am I supposed to know) and then try again.

Sorry sorry sorry

Damn...and it was a good post too.

Path-Shaper, on 30 June 2011 - 07:13 AM, said:

Barghast, on 30 June 2011 - 06:54 AM, said:

Hey PS, I'm lucky to be up so late and was wondering if a night scene was coming right up or should I just clock out?

Oh, and Ruse, Rashan, and Osseric = fools!!!! unless they're evil. Then maybe = slick

sorry, was busy resolving

It is now day

- T.

[Path-Shaper]

And then GH floods my inbox

Barghast, on 30 June 2011 - 07:16 AM, said:

That's what I figured. Thanks Taps and Liz!

Barghast, on 30 June 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

Ok, now I'm just more confused. Lady's RI soldier? I though Rebel RI was enough no names. Makes me suspicious considering how many names are available for the Lady's side....

So we have 10 people left. And I win if the Lady and Dominator are defeated (which may or may not imply player roles for each of those entities). For the sake of argument, let's say they exist as does the WR.

Left in the game for sure is:
Dominator
Lady
White Rose

Rebel RI - me

Which leaves 6 unnamed roles

So if Korbas is trust worthy, we so far have four factions: Rebellion, Soulcatchers, Dominator, and Lady. Looks like Dominator and Rebellion factions are linked somewhat as are the Lady and Soulcatchers factions.

I think we have potentially killed off the leader of the Soulcatchers (Soulcatcher herself) and I can't be sure there is a WR, but if Raker is dead, I think he was a potential first or second of the Rebellion.

You know, we have only seen one BC character and I am starting to wonder if that one was a lie. I would expect there to be others if the BC has roles in this game as opposed to being NPCs.

Ok, posting this and then continuing with speculation

Barghast, on 30 June 2011 - 07:57 PM, said:

Barghast, on 30 June 2011 - 01:19 PM, said:

Barghast, on 29 June 2011 - 07:10 PM, said:

Barghast, on 29 June 2011 - 06:43 PM, said:

Another item to get the names in front of us (Green = maybe in the game as a player and still alive; Red = dead according to Korbas):

Barghast, on 29 June 2011 - 03:50 PM, said:

The Ten Who Were Taken; The New Taken
Many generations before the first novel, these Ten powerful wizards were magically bound to the will of the Dominator:

• Soulcatcher
• The Limper
• The Howler
• Shapeshifter
• Stormbringer
• Bonegnasher
• The Hanged Man
• Nightcrawler
• Moonbiter
• The Faceless Man

Then, between the first and the third novels, the Lady replaced those of the Ten who were slain with the following:

• Whisper
• Journey
• Feather
• Blister
• Scorn
• Benefice
• The Creeper
• Learned

And finally the wikipedia Black Company List of characters:

Members of The Black Company

[edit]From the Northern Campaigns

• The Captain: Leader of the Black Company.
• The Lieutenant: His second in command.
• Croaker [most likely just PS's role]: Company's doctor and annalist. As annalist, his is the voice that narrates the stories. Though no specific rank is mentioned, it is likely he ranks as a mid-level officer.
• Silent: Moderately talented wizard named for the fact that he never speaks.
• Goblin: Moderately talented wizard named because of his short stature and his facial features.
• Tom-Tom: Moderately talented wizard named for the instruments he carries and plays to punctuate his speech. Brother of One-Eye.
• One-Eye: Moderately talented wizard named for the fact that he has only one good eye. Brother of Tom-Tom.
• Elmo: Sergeant and Croaker's best friend.
• Murgen: Standard bearer.
• Mercy: Platoon leader.
• Pickles: Company quartermaster.
• Otto: Veteran mercenary.
• Hagop: Veteran mercenary and scout.
• Raven: Northern recruit of former affluence.
• Candy: Veteran mercenary.
• Pawnbroker: Veteran mercenary.
• Kingpin: Veteran mercenary known for laziness.
• Marron Shed: Inn owner from Juniper.

Ok, so the greens, if all present account for 8 of the 13 remaining players. Not listed above but probably player roles include: White Rose, Bormaz (from the OP), and more nameless Rebels (if that is all the info Korbas received on the dead rebel players).

Let's say that there is only one Rebel left to keep them on this list, which then accounts for 11 of the 13 players. Since we haven't heard of any rebel wizards (correct?) I would guess the last two roles are part of the Circle for completeness sake.

That leads me to guess the following faction breakdown:

Soul-catcher's (Lady's) Faction [up to 8 players]
Leadership (1st = Lady, 2nd = Soulcatcher) [2 players]
Taken (The Limper) [1 player]
Misc (Bormaz) [1 player]
BC members [up to 4 players]

Dominator's Faction [1 player]
Leadership (Dominator) [1 player]

Rebellion Faction [2 players]
Leadership (White Rose) [1 player]
The Circle [2 players]
Unnamed Rebels [1 player]

These seem like very uneven teams, which can potentially work if there is 1) a lot of cross recruiting with the Taken, BC, Circle, and Rebels being fair game and/or 2) the smaller factions have a lot of tricks up their sleeves such as a superpower Dom and WR.

I think that the BC is actually smaller (death scene name dropping for story's sake) and the Circle peeps include more players. I also think it is possible the Lady or Soulcatcher don't exist are are just another name place holder.

Ok, this is a long post. I'll back off for a sec.

Ok, One-Eye is marked. I'm a little confused then what to do with your comment Mockra?

Mockra, on 29 June 2011 - 07:04 PM, said:

WR can't lead the Rebellion. she's part of BC, and when she becomes teh Captain of BC, BC BECOMES the Rebellion.

Does this mean that the Rebellion is leaderless or could one of the Circle be a rebellion leader?

Thanks both for help clarifying things.

And Circle names:
Whisper
Feather
Journey
Raker
Harden
Roper
Tamarask
Sidle
Moth
Linger
Trinket


And why a soldier of the Lady. That is very odd especially with so many names available. And does this mean the Rebel leader is Raker and not White Rose.


I am very confused, but still wondering how much of that is Korbas. Still thinking.

Ok, if there is BC roles in the game, I would bet that accounts for 2 other roles (Captain and.....?)I think Limper is in play. And I think there is at least one more Circle and Taken (in addition to limper) floating around. Which leaves room for one other person, maybe another RI (Lady or Rebel?)?

Barghast, on 30 June 2011 - 10:00 PM, said:

Looking ok on the lynching Korbas front. My numerous comments could go either way depending on how much everyone craves Korbas' input. However, with the killing spree continuing to accelerate, the end game is close and hopefully people will knock of Korbas before it's too late. I really wonder if Korbas could be stealing the CFs such that if we kill him PS will start giving them directly to us instead of being hijacked. Though, if Korbas is hijacking and thus maybe being Dominator or Lady, killing him should be a major win for the rebels.

Barghast, on 01 July 2011 - 03:36 AM, said:

I can't believe it has taken this long for anybody to even talk to me, let alone vote for me. I get noisier and noisier since it's probably hard to hear me from "up Korbas' ass" as Liosan so eloquently expressed.

Though, after last game, something makes me wonder if everyone is trying to be more subtle because they happen TO KNOW A HELL LOT MORE THAN ME!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKING HELL!!!!!!!!

Ok, I'm a little better now. I swear, this crowd would lynch Deep Blue within the first few minutes of a game...

Barghast, on 01 July 2011 - 03:39 AM, said:

first thing first. I've got so much to say. Each player left has to make up their own mind. I could be on your team. Barg seems to love his quotes which is fine but he doesn't say who he thinks i am. I don't believe him to be a head guy as he is throwing himself out there. But and it is a big but, he hasn't looked elsewhere. I've posted the most. I'm not loyal to anyone because i don't know who to trust. Its easy to build a train on me. Lio jumped on with barg because he's scared of being voted. It would be too hard to make up 4 or more factions, add names to each one and remember everything. Why people think i'm lying is beyond me. Who do you think i am barg? If i'm a leader type role then why am i getting cf's! I don't want to vote you because you,re putting yourself out there and i like that. Yet why not focus on other players! Are you a recruit? I'd prefer to look elsewhere for major scum. I'l add more in the morning. By the way, when did you become leader?
Oh, and Korbas, whoever the weasel you are, you're good. So very good. So good, that sometimes I actually think you are telling the truth...

Barghast, on 01 July 2011 - 03:53 AM, said:

i love this game.

Barghast, on 01 July 2011 - 04:17 AM, said:

Anthrax: "And you're running away from this case same as Barghast, desperately evading what I've pointed out. So, likely symp and master. "


Lol. I'm a rebel RI who is probably the last of his team being accused of symping with Lio. That is hilarious. Ah, touche' sir, but sadly I have nothing to run away from. I would have a hard time finding a starting point in your pointless comments. Sigh. I just hope others see through your weak-ass bluster.

Barghast, on 01 July 2011 - 05:18 AM, said:

Ah tweedle dee and tweedle dum. This is a fun little exchange right now.

Barghast, on 01 July 2011 - 06:07 AM, said:

So what am I missing that has Rashan so damn confident? He seems to swear up and down that Korbas is Croaker, which may mean Rashan has his own CF function. But what I'm confused about is the concept of a factionless faction. I guess that would be a fascinating game concept to have a whole faction whose victory conditions drift from place to place.

So for the sake of argument, let's say Rashan is BC as is Korbas. Liosan pretty much admitted to being of the Lady or Dominator (if I remember correctly) so I would peg him as a Lady's man. Despite his self-righteousness, I would be willing to give Rashan's theory of Gailan being a leader credence, making him WR, Lady, or Dominator. Ampelas, if Rashan's mafia theories hold true, is perhaps a RI or something low on the totem-pole floundering around like me. And with that logic, Anthrax is also RI. Two more Players... um... D'riss and Osseric. Both lay really low and strike me as unremarkable. I will hazard D'riss is WR and Osseric is the Lady. Ok, well let's see what the Rashan method brings us...

Barghast, on 01 July 2011 - 06:16 AM, said:

I know, spamming talking to myself etc. I'm just going stir crazy with the inertia. People are just fluffing about saying low poster this, cute cuddly that, and what do we have? A three way split vote. And people seem to think nothing of the fact our numbers were halved in three days (isn't that fast or is that just typical faction mafia?) I want to talk more on thread and get some good stuff going, but seriously, it's like wading through cold caramel.

Sorry to fill your inbox PS. I guess unless you want to through in some laughing emoticons, I'm mostly talking to myself and maybe entertaining SH if there isn't a post via PM limit...

Path-Shaper, on 01 July 2011 - 08:52 AM, said:

Well, there are 86% storage in my inboy left, so you can keep spamming.
It's interesting for me to read what you think.

Liz

[Path-Shaper]

Osseric, on 01 July 2011 - 01:35 PM, said:

Change to my provisional.

Recruit Korbas (pinky)

Maybe he can fake CF the Limper, or manipulate the CF in my factions favor.

He probably has some 'unrecruitable' nonsense though...

noted


Liz

[Path-Shaper]

Liosan, on 01 July 2011 - 01:46 PM, said:

I am a little bit nervous. I think the reveal might help some. Throw in some time is not on our side fear, and pray!!

I NEED ONE FREAKING RECRUIT!!!

Osseric, on 01 July 2011 - 01:48 PM, said:

Or he's the dominator, like Lio says. In which case I will have to try to lynch him, if there's any time/opportunity left.

[Path-Shaper]

Liosan, on 01 July 2011 - 01:58 PM, said:

MAKE SURE THAT IF I GET 4 VOTES YOU CHECK TO SEE IF THE WHITE ROSE IS ON MY TRAIN!!!!

I am going to hammer myself, and help my chances of not getting lynched. If she is dead, I have my lynch proof, but if she is alive, I want to make sure I keep her from dropping the hammer and killing me!

[Path-Shaper]

D, on 01 July 2011 - 12:38 PM, said:

Right, I'm going to start drawing some heat on thread. I've put 3 votes on Lio, you'd make for. But, if it were to suddenly swing my way hop on that train. The moment I don't get lynched, I'm dead by NK the next night. So let's hope it doesn't swing that way.

Right, I won't be back by the time Day times out, I didn't tell them that, it makes me easier to lynch if I'm away. But, I won't be here to protect myself.

Ampelas, on 01 July 2011 - 01:58 PM, said:

K. I won't be around to symp another person to help defend you either. Not that I have much other than to out myself to offer them anyway. I'm just doing a quick check in and then I'm going to be away from my computer for a few hours.

[Path-Shaper]

Liosan, on 01 July 2011 - 02:48 PM, said:

This is me gambling that Galain is a killing role, and the reason he wants me lynched is because I couldn't be NKed by him.

If it doesn't work, then I play the (I SAID I WASN"T going to reveal your powers you idiot!!!!)

[Path-Shaper]

Liosan, on 01 July 2011 - 03:03 PM, said:

yawn. not really worried still. laying it on heavily, but thats just acting. Great game Liz., of course, I feel underpowered, but hey, thats how everyone will feel end game. No worries, you could have given me a single vig and sent me out to a team of 16 on one faction and I would have tried to own it

OInce again nice game Liz.

[Path-Shaper]

Liosan, on 01 July 2011 - 03:16 PM, said:

Change my provisional to Enchant Rashan.

noted

Liz

[Path-Shaper]

Liosan, on 01 July 2011 - 03:41 PM, said:

Fuck. one more vote and I am gonna hammer myself.

Path-Shaper, on 01 July 2011 - 03:54 PM, said:

Liosan, on 01 July 2011 - 03:35 PM, said:

Change that again - Enchant Barghast

He just said he has no abilities. he is either a rebel male, or rebel female....fingers crossed.

noted

Liz

Barghast, on 01 July 2011 - 03:38 PM, said:

Please please PS give me a day kill so I can just get rid of Anthrax!!! please!!!!

Anthras, on 01 July 2011 - 03:43 PM, said:

For spoilers, all I can say is ... if either Barghast or Liosan winds up actually being on my team, I'm going to be pissed.

Liosan's reveal makes no fucking sense, especially since he seems to keep implying that Galain has leaderlike powers (with Rashan hinting that Galain might be the Lady, which I know isn't true). Well, if that's true, Galain isn't my leader, so to hell with them both.

Reaffirming:

Kill Barghast

Liosan will probably get lynched - he seems to want to.

[Liosan]

Damn, I tried. oh well, off to read spoilers. Great game eveyrone.

[Morgoth]

Hah, there's my last pms. When I wrote Cutter I meant Croaker. Just got the names mixed for some reason.

[Gust Hubb]

Hood, on 29 June 2011 - 12:50 AM, said:

Second game in a row where I get lynched on day one for not being on thread near the timeout. Never announcing that again (though I didn't last time either).

HP is an unlucky alt. What can one say....

[Gust Hubb]

Path-Shaper, on 01 July 2011 - 08:38 AM, said:

Anthras, on 01 July 2011 - 03:45 AM, said:

Provisional:

Kill Barghast

I probably can't get him lynched, and I'm only about fifty percent certain he's the Dominator. But he's sure as hell not on my side. He might be the stalking goat for the Dominator, or even a Finder for that faction, which is why he's so dead set on Korbas. And Osseric is reluctant to vote for Korbas, so I figure there's maybe something behind that. If he is the Dominator, he's probably got multiple BPs, so I hope he's already taken a few hits.

If Barghast gets lynched:

Kill Liosan

It's down to either him or Galain as the Dominator if it's not Barghast. Liosan is very, very under the radar. Actually ... so is D'riss. It's also possible one of them is part of a leaderless faction, and has lost interest due to not possibly being able to win.

Noted.

Liz

Well, I can't wait to see how Anthrax reacts. Right on one count wrong on the other. At least I was correct in my thought that killing Liosan would satisfy my VC, albeit the complete opposite end of my VC. meh.

Path-Shaper, on 01 July 2011 - 03:11 PM, said:

Liosan, on 01 July 2011 - 03:03 PM, said:

yawn. not really worried still. laying it on heavily, but thats just acting. Great game Liz., of course, I feel underpowered, but hey, thats how everyone will feel end game. No worries, you could have given me a single vig and sent me out to a team of 16 on one faction and I would have tried to own it

OInce again nice game Liz.

Tell me about it.

[Gust Hubb]

Well Liz, this looks like it was a very unique and pioneering game of mafia as according to Taps. Nice work and thanks for letting me participate (sorry about the flood....I was just frustrated with the bleating of sheep and I was already flooding the thread. I'm talkative, what can I say...).

I agree that RI needs a little more to go on. Going through the game blindly was tough shit, esp. still as a noob, and I would have liked to have something someone to cling too (would have stemmed the flood a little. I was mainly trying to drum up information and speculation to help me have a leg to stand on). That being said, this complete mystery of information is a really neat concept and should be tinkered with more to enhance this game experience. Thank you again!!!

[Path-Shaper]

Ampelas, on 01 July 2011 - 06:21 PM, said:

You were barely mentioned at all. Lio as the Dominator makes it time to go after the Lady. Galain is going down.

I think that 2 of the three member left between Anthras, Rashan and Osseric are either Soulcatcher or Lady's faction. I can't decide if Korbas is Rebel or Lady's faction.

Now would have been a great time to use my vig. I just didn't expect to still be alive at this point to still be able to use it.

Galain, on 01 July 2011 - 05:54 PM, said:

This game is a mind-bender, kudos to you

Anthras, on 01 July 2011 - 04:34 PM, said:

Well, if Korbas is telling the truth, and Liosan really was the Dominator, he must be an FM. If he's not an FM, Korbas is lying. Which will get him lynched, once people figure it out, probably today.

My provisional in case there's a speed lynch of end-of-Day action:

Kill D'riss

Who's way, way the fuck below the radar. I might wind up NKing everyone except Osseric if that's what it takes. I'm just glad that, if we're getting accurate CFs, Barghast really wasn't on my team.

If D'riss gets lynched, alternate provisional:

Kill Rashan

Who's almost certainly White Rose aligned (whichever faction that may be); or at very least not Lady, based on his comment about Galain (the whole "if he has 5 BPs there must be a way around them). If he knew who the Lady was, he wouldn't imply it could possibly be Galain. I think.

noted

Liz

[Mockra]

wait, so the dominator got lynched? haha, what a game.

GO TEAM LADY!!!!

[Gust Hubb]

You continue to lead the show Korbas (Tattersail). You are a formidable player. Well done. Remind me to give you rep after you clean up in the game thread.

[Tapper]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I just called my interweb company as my modem has connection issues. I won't have internet until at the least the 11th, which is the first date they can be arsed to send someone to look at it. Until then, I can only get web access at work (which is where I am now) but being at my work means I can't DIY my home.

I'm really sorry Liz

If some helpful euro (Morghy? Dibs?) can take over for me to do vote counts et cetera, I'd be much, much obliged!

[Lizradusa]

That sucks, but I don't think it's going to be a problem here. I have a lot of free time this week so I can check more often.

This post has been edited by Lizra: 04 July 2011 - 09:25 AM