[Fener]

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 08:49 AM, said:

Fener, on 14 June 2011 - 08:38 AM, said:

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 08:31 AM, said:

Fener, on 14 June 2011 - 08:17 AM, said:

hello...

so...like...what now?

going for cult?

They are generally the most dangerous given recruitment, but given that we know very little about anything its mostly luck at the start. Once we start pressuring people we can see if there are any people trying to protect them.

well yea...i know that they are the most dangerous.

its just...well...there is nothing to go on...lynch today is gonna be some random shmo.

day 1 it generally is. in faction games your really trusting luck not to catch a team mate. Going for lowest poster on day 1 seems fair tbh.

Wow...talk about trusting luck.
So you reckon it would be better/luckier to go for someone we know less about?

sigh... watever, i just have this pet hate of people gunning for low posters so early in a game...it makes no sense to me, but ok...

[Eloth]

you know just as little about the high posters on day1, or if they are sneaky you know a load of shit. fact is day 1 you are going mostly on single line hellos or joke posts. theres no info from voting or night actions at all, unlike later in the game. People arent really gunning yet tbf, and your reluctance just makes me think you know one of them and are worried. If i wanted to wifom i could claim its an act or you want us to believe you are associated with them and vote for you instead on the grounds that you are trying to mislead me or seem to have a relationship with a low poster

[Eloth]

alternatively you could vote night - but in a cult game that really is very very dodgy play and would get you lynched with good reason!

[Gamelon]

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 08:49 AM, said:

Fener, on 14 June 2011 - 08:38 AM, said:

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 08:31 AM, said:

Fener, on 14 June 2011 - 08:17 AM, said:

hello...

so...like...what now?

going for cult?

They are generally the most dangerous given recruitment, but given that we know very little about anything its mostly luck at the start. Once we start pressuring people we can see if there are any people trying to protect them.

well yea...i know that they are the most dangerous.

its just...well...there is nothing to go on...lynch today is gonna be some random shmo.

day 1 it generally is. in faction games your really trusting luck not to catch a team mate. Going for lowest poster on day 1 seems fair tbh.

Everyone is extra cagey in the early stages of a faction game because no one wants to give anything away. Faction leaders tend to lay low, too, so if it's not your leader why not vote for them as the odds are the same for everybody (assuming the teams are balanced).

That being said - I almost always seem to "beat" the odds and lynch a teammate on day 1...

[Fener]

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 09:08 AM, said:

you know just as little about the high posters on day1, or if they are sneaky you know a load of shit. fact is day 1 you are going mostly on single line hellos or joke posts. theres no info from voting or night actions at all, unlike later in the game. People arent really gunning yet tbf, and your reluctance just makes me think you know one of them and are worried. If i wanted to wifom i could claim its an act or you want us to believe you are associated with them and vote for you instead on the grounds that you are trying to mislead me or seem to have a relationship with a low poster

ugggh... ok...i'll play your little game.

I could also say that you perhaps know that the low posters aren't on your team and are just looking for an easy lynch.

Or you are the cult and are eager to get the lynch going to start recruiting and its easy to pick on the players that have yet to have an opportunity to actually have some time to come one yet.

You guys are pointing fingers at people 20 hours into a game who clearly have just checked in early to say that they know the game is on and will be back when they have the time?
this earlyYou use "laying low" as an excuse and then drop a vote looks a bit dodgy to me... Everyone hasn't even checked in FFS.

You can bluster on about me trying to "protect one of them" ....but you forget.... I AM ONE OF THOSE PLAYERS...hurr durr.
So watever... go ahead vote merrid of for not showing up in good time...you must have a pretty good idea of who is on your team then.
Thats what i think anyways.


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This post has been edited by Fener: 14 June 2011 - 09:35 AM

[Fener]

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 09:09 AM, said:

alternatively you could vote night - but in a cult game that really is very very dodgy play and would get you lynched with good reason!

thank you master yoda.

[Serc]

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 09:08 AM, said:

you know just as little about the high posters on day1, or if they are sneaky you know a load of shit. fact is day 1 you are going mostly on single line hellos or joke posts. theres no info from voting or night actions at all, unlike later in the game. People arent really gunning yet tbf, and your reluctance just makes me think you know one of them and are worried. If i wanted to wifom i could claim its an act or you want us to believe you are associated with them and vote for you instead on the grounds that you are trying to mislead me or seem to have a relationship with a low poster

So basically you're just picking someone at random then, since you either know nothing about them or assume that what you know about them is false. Meh.

[Gamelon]

Wifom central is up and running.

At this juncture, any speculation is pretty pointless and for most people picking someone to lynch will be a shot in the dark. So yeah, it is picking someone at random but on day 1 what else is going to happen?

[Gamelon]

I"m heading out. I'll be back before deadline.

[Eloth]

Fener, on 14 June 2011 - 09:24 AM, said:

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 09:08 AM, said:

you know just as little about the high posters on day1, or if they are sneaky you know a load of shit. fact is day 1 you are going mostly on single line hellos or joke posts. theres no info from voting or night actions at all, unlike later in the game. People arent really gunning yet tbf, and your reluctance just makes me think you know one of them and are worried. If i wanted to wifom i could claim its an act or you want us to believe you are associated with them and vote for you instead on the grounds that you are trying to mislead me or seem to have a relationship with a low poster

ugggh... ok...i'll play your little game.

I could also say that you perhaps know that the low posters aren't on your team and are just looking for an easy lynch.

Or you are the cult and are eager to get the lynch going to start recruiting and its easy to pick on the players that have yet to have an opportunity to actually have some time to come one yet.

You guys are pointing fingers at people 20 hours into a game who clearly have just checked in early to say that they know the game is on and will be back when they have the time?
this earlyYou use "laying low" as an excuse and then drop a vote looks a bit dodgy to me... Everyone hasn't even checked in FFS.

You can bluster on about me trying to "protect one of them" ....but you forget.... I AM ONE OF THOSE PLAYERS...hurr durr.
So watever... go ahead vote merrid of for not showing up in good time...you must have a pretty good idea of who is on your team then.
Thats what i think anyways.


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You arent one of them - sorry to burst your bubble (your second highest!!).

In a faction game its highly unlikely that any player knows more than one other player so to claim i dont know any of the low posters are on my team is a relatively safe bet, and in the end with so many low posters if i did have a team mate in that area all i would do is push for a different one so the point is fairly moot.

Also - i am not blustering, you said its too risky going for someone with one post, and yet when i suggested we look at you (considering you are now not a low poster and i know you vehemetly do not want one of them lynched) you over react to what was in my mind a good humoured jest.

[Eloth]

Serc, on 14 June 2011 - 09:40 AM, said:

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 09:08 AM, said:

you know just as little about the high posters on day1, or if they are sneaky you know a load of shit. fact is day 1 you are going mostly on single line hellos or joke posts. theres no info from voting or night actions at all, unlike later in the game. People arent really gunning yet tbf, and your reluctance just makes me think you know one of them and are worried. If i wanted to wifom i could claim its an act or you want us to believe you are associated with them and vote for you instead on the grounds that you are trying to mislead me or seem to have a relationship with a low poster

So basically you're just picking someone at random then, since you either know nothing about them or assume that what you know about them is false. Meh.

what are you basing your day 1 vote on then?

[Serc]

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 10:11 AM, said:

Serc, on 14 June 2011 - 09:40 AM, said:

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 09:08 AM, said:

you know just as little about the high posters on day1, or if they are sneaky you know a load of shit. fact is day 1 you are going mostly on single line hellos or joke posts. theres no info from voting or night actions at all, unlike later in the game. People arent really gunning yet tbf, and your reluctance just makes me think you know one of them and are worried. If i wanted to wifom i could claim its an act or you want us to believe you are associated with them and vote for you instead on the grounds that you are trying to mislead me or seem to have a relationship with a low poster

So basically you're just picking someone at random then, since you either know nothing about them or assume that what you know about them is false. Meh.

what are you basing your day 1 vote on then?

Nothing much I'd imagine. But you picked me

[Eloth]

Serc, on 14 June 2011 - 10:19 AM, said:

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 10:11 AM, said:

Serc, on 14 June 2011 - 09:40 AM, said:

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 09:08 AM, said:

you know just as little about the high posters on day1, or if they are sneaky you know a load of shit. fact is day 1 you are going mostly on single line hellos or joke posts. theres no info from voting or night actions at all, unlike later in the game. People arent really gunning yet tbf, and your reluctance just makes me think you know one of them and are worried. If i wanted to wifom i could claim its an act or you want us to believe you are associated with them and vote for you instead on the grounds that you are trying to mislead me or seem to have a relationship with a low poster

So basically you're just picking someone at random then, since you either know nothing about them or assume that what you know about them is false. Meh.

what are you basing your day 1 vote on then?

Nothing much I'd imagine. But you picked me

?? i havent voted.

[Fener]

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 10:09 AM, said:

Fener, on 14 June 2011 - 09:24 AM, said:

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 09:08 AM, said:

you know just as little about the high posters on day1, or if they are sneaky you know a load of shit. fact is day 1 you are going mostly on single line hellos or joke posts. theres no info from voting or night actions at all, unlike later in the game. People arent really gunning yet tbf, and your reluctance just makes me think you know one of them and are worried. If i wanted to wifom i could claim its an act or you want us to believe you are associated with them and vote for you instead on the grounds that you are trying to mislead me or seem to have a relationship with a low poster

ugggh... ok...i'll play your little game.

I could also say that you perhaps know that the low posters aren't on your team and are just looking for an easy lynch.

Or you are the cult and are eager to get the lynch going to start recruiting and its easy to pick on the players that have yet to have an opportunity to actually have some time to come one yet.

You guys are pointing fingers at people 20 hours into a game who clearly have just checked in early to say that they know the game is on and will be back when they have the time?
this earlyYou use "laying low" as an excuse and then drop a vote looks a bit dodgy to me... Everyone hasn't even checked in FFS.

You can bluster on about me trying to "protect one of them" ....but you forget.... I AM ONE OF THOSE PLAYERS...hurr durr.
So watever... go ahead vote merrid of for not showing up in good time...you must have a pretty good idea of who is on your team then.
Thats what i think anyways.


edit - added quote

You arent one of them - sorry to burst your bubble (your second highest!!).

Alkend, on 14 June 2011 - 06:22 AM, said:

Fener, on 13 June 2011 - 11:02 AM, said:

hey hey... setup looks interesting.
Alwasy wanted to read GAP series.
Had to stop reading the OP though as its seems a tad bit too spoilerific...hopes its not a requirement to do so.

Serc, on 13 June 2011 - 11:03 AM, said:

Just checking in, will be back later

Laying low on day one, beneath any notice?

Vote Merrid

Just because you where first out of the three to say you'd be back on, i'll be back in around 5 hours

im not one of them....?... was i not so named RIGHT THERE!!??
When i started this arguemnet i had one post...so my bubble is securly in tact...so there!!

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 10:09 AM, said:

In a faction game its highly unlikely that any player knows more than one other player so to claim i dont know any of the low posters are on my team is a relatively safe bet, and in the end with so many low posters if i did have a team mate in that area all i would do is push for a different one so the point is fairly moot.

Also - i am not blustering, you said its too risky going for someone with one post, and yet when i suggested we look at you (considering you are now not a low poster and i know you vehemetly do not want one of them lynched) you over react to what was in my mind a good humoured jest.

Thank you for a the lesson on faction games master yoda...teach me more!!

seriously... all i was saying is that i find it silly in a faction game for someone to start voting for a player they have ZERO info on and using low posting as the excuse.
Especially so early on in a game...you guys are not even giving people a chance to start playing and are already gunning for low posters?

Thats fucking stupid. This game started around bed time for some...give people a chance to come on before you start gunning that angle at least...thats all im saying!!
You have more chance of deducing if someone is on your team or not if he has actually had a chance to talk...correct?
You keep on defending alkends decision to go for low posters, and it makes me believe that there is a good chance you know that these players are not on your team already...at least its better then me following along and voting for people who have hardly said a word yet!

I have no idea weather Merrid or Serc are on my team.
therefore i would like to at least give them the time to speak before i start labeling them "low posters" or "laying low" and these rather nonsensical labels aimed at players freaking less than a day into the game.

It seems to me that you guys might be pushing for an easy lynch too....and why would you want to do that?
Wouldn't you like to hear from more people before you start throwing this FUD around?

This whole nonsense that day one is "always random" is so old hat and is only true because people like you make it true.

I would much rather vote off one of you two... because you seam to be very happy throwing caution to the wind and voting for just about anybody... especially players that have not had a chance to come online yet making it even less likely that you would glean any form of allegiance!

Vote Eloth


I am voting for you because Alkend merely placed a vote and used low posting as an excuse. and he was maybe just trying to get more talk.
Whereas you seem to have taken it a bit further and even started defending the idea that voting off low posters is fine..and actually dont seem to care who you vote for which is more indicative of someone who knows full well who his team is.
Which in turn smacks to me of there being a slight chance (better then voting off a random at least) that you are a cult member and are willing to vote anybody because cult members are about the only guys who dont give a toss who goes!


cheers



edit - quote tag fuck up!!

This post has been edited by Fener: 14 June 2011 - 11:16 AM

[Serc]

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 10:54 AM, said:

Serc, on 14 June 2011 - 10:19 AM, said:

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 10:11 AM, said:

Serc, on 14 June 2011 - 09:40 AM, said:

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 09:08 AM, said:

you know just as little about the high posters on day1, or if they are sneaky you know a load of shit. fact is day 1 you are going mostly on single line hellos or joke posts. theres no info from voting or night actions at all, unlike later in the game. People arent really gunning yet tbf, and your reluctance just makes me think you know one of them and are worried. If i wanted to wifom i could claim its an act or you want us to believe you are associated with them and vote for you instead on the grounds that you are trying to mislead me or seem to have a relationship with a low poster

So basically you're just picking someone at random then, since you either know nothing about them or assume that what you know about them is false. Meh.

what are you basing your day 1 vote on then?

Nothing much I'd imagine. But you picked me

?? i havent voted.

Woops, I got confused between you and Alkend. Never mind...

[Eloth]

Fener, on 14 June 2011 - 10:55 AM, said:

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 10:09 AM, said:

Fener, on 14 June 2011 - 09:24 AM, said:

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 09:08 AM, said:

you know just as little about the high posters on day1, or if they are sneaky you know a load of shit. fact is day 1 you are going mostly on single line hellos or joke posts. theres no info from voting or night actions at all, unlike later in the game. People arent really gunning yet tbf, and your reluctance just makes me think you know one of them and are worried. If i wanted to wifom i could claim its an act or you want us to believe you are associated with them and vote for you instead on the grounds that you are trying to mislead me or seem to have a relationship with a low poster

ugggh... ok...i'll play your little game.

I could also say that you perhaps know that the low posters aren't on your team and are just looking for an easy lynch.

Or you are the cult and are eager to get the lynch going to start recruiting and its easy to pick on the players that have yet to have an opportunity to actually have some time to come one yet.

You guys are pointing fingers at people 20 hours into a game who clearly have just checked in early to say that they know the game is on and will be back when they have the time?
this earlyYou use "laying low" as an excuse and then drop a vote looks a bit dodgy to me... Everyone hasn't even checked in FFS.

You can bluster on about me trying to "protect one of them" ....but you forget.... I AM ONE OF THOSE PLAYERS...hurr durr.
So watever... go ahead vote merrid of for not showing up in good time...you must have a pretty good idea of who is on your team then.
Thats what i think anyways.


edit - added quote

You arent one of them - sorry to burst your bubble (your second highest!!).

Alkend, on 14 June 2011 - 06:22 AM, said:

Fener, on 13 June 2011 - 11:02 AM, said:

hey hey... setup looks interesting.
Alwasy wanted to read GAP series.
Had to stop reading the OP though as its seems a tad bit too spoilerific...hopes its not a requirement to do so.

Serc, on 13 June 2011 - 11:03 AM, said:

Just checking in, will be back later

Laying low on day one, beneath any notice?

Vote Merrid

Just because you where first out of the three to say you'd be back on, i'll be back in around 5 hours

im not one of them....?... was i not so named RIGHT THERE!!??
When i started this arguemnet i had one post...so my bubble is securly in tact...so there!!

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 10:09 AM, said:

In a faction game its highly unlikely that any player knows more than one other player so to claim i dont know any of the low posters are on my team is a relatively safe bet, and in the end with so many low posters if i did have a team mate in that area all i would do is push for a different one so the point is fairly moot.

Also - i am not blustering, you said its too risky going for someone with one post, and yet when i suggested we look at you (considering you are now not a low poster and i know you vehemetly do not want one of them lynched) you over react to what was in my mind a good humoured jest.

Thank you for a the lesson on faction games master yoda...teach me more!!

seriously... all i was saying is that i find it silly in a faction game for someone to start voting for a player they have ZERO info on and using low posting as the excuse.
Especially so early on in a game...you guys are not even giving people a chance to start playing and are already gunning for low posters?

Thats fucking stupid. This game started around bed time for some...give people a chance to come on before you start gunning that angle at least...thats all im saying!!
You have more chance of deducing if someone is on your team or not if he has actually had a chance to talk...correct?
You keep on defending alkends decision to go for low posters, and it makes me believe that there is a good chance you know that these players are not on your team already...at least its better then me following along and voting for people who have hardly said a word yet!

I have no idea weather Merrid or Serc are on my team.
therefore i would like to at least give them the time to speak before i start labeling them "low posters" or "laying low" and these rather nonsensical labels aimed at players freaking less than a day into the game.

It seems to me that you guys might be pushing for an easy lynch too....and why would you want to do that?
Wouldn't you like to hear from more people before you start throwing this FUD around?

This whole nonsense that day one is "always random" is so old hat and is only true because people like you make it true.

I would much rather vote off one of you two... because you seam to be very happy throwing caution to the wind and voting for just about anybody... especially players that have not had a chance to come online yet making it even less likely that you would glean any form of allegiance!

Vote Eloth


I am voting for you because Alkend merely placed a vote and used low posting as an excuse. and he was maybe just trying to get more talk.
Whereas you seem to have taken it a bit further and even started defending the idea that voting off low posters is fine..and actually dont seem to care who you vote for which is more indicative of someone who knows full well who his team is.
Which in turn smacks to me of there being a slight chance (better then voting off a random at least) that you are a cult member and are willing to vote anybody because cult members are about the only guys who dont give a toss who goes!


cheers



edit - quote tag fuck up!!

defensive much? You seem to be ignoring the fact i havent voted and seem rather annoyed that i am not grouping you with the low posters. to say someone is happily voting off people when they havent voted seems rather absurd. You argued that voting for low posters was a bad play - i disagreed and defended my point with reasoning. Just because you dont agree with it doesnt make you right. I am not alkend, i didnt label anyone or vote so wind your neck in.

Quote

This whole nonsense that day one is "always random" is so old hat and is only true because people like you make it true.

People like me? you really need to think before you spout this shit cause it just comes across like a childish rant.

[Alkend]

i voted a low poster to get the thread moving along and get discussion going, i voted for merrid, i did mention you and serc fener i did and lo and behold you shoot to the top of the posting board. that doesn't bother me as much as the fact that you are saying we shouldn't vote on day one, you seem to be vigorously defending merrid and there is only one vote out there. i don't understand. you do not know who is on your team as i do not know, i was going to sit back and watch the discussion heat up a little more but i wanted to know if you are in favour of a day one lynch or against it? the reason i ask is up until the point i voted there was absolutely nothing to go on. now there are a few posts for us to read through. a comment from eloth pinged my radar, the part were he said he knows someone else on his team. i don't know about anybody else but i don't know who is on my team, and i was thinking that this could be a cult ability as there is obviously going to be a lot less of them to begin with. all in all your reactions in my opinion are unwarranted, one vote is not going to sway the masses but you react heavily to a low poster hunt, how else would we get a lynch today without the aftermath of the vote?

[Fener]

Serc, on 14 June 2011 - 11:23 AM, said:

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 10:54 AM, said:

Serc, on 14 June 2011 - 10:19 AM, said:

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 10:11 AM, said:

Serc, on 14 June 2011 - 09:40 AM, said:

Eloth, on 14 June 2011 - 09:08 AM, said:

you know just as little about the high posters on day1, or if they are sneaky you know a load of shit. fact is day 1 you are going mostly on single line hellos or joke posts. theres no info from voting or night actions at all, unlike later in the game. People arent really gunning yet tbf, and your reluctance just makes me think you know one of them and are worried. If i wanted to wifom i could claim its an act or you want us to believe you are associated with them and vote for you instead on the grounds that you are trying to mislead me or seem to have a relationship with a low poster

So basically you're just picking someone at random then, since you either know nothing about them or assume that what you know about them is false. Meh.

what are you basing your day 1 vote on then?

Nothing much I'd imagine. But you picked me

?? i havent voted.

Woops, I got confused between you and Alkend. Never mind...

yea...

what gets me is alkend votes for a low poster extrememly early...right..ok...ok i can buy that.
I mean he is putting pressure on people...fine

But then eloth goes and defends the fact that voting off low posters is fine...because "hey, who cares...day one is random anyways"

I mean really?...wow



edit - tyoo

This post has been edited by Fener: 14 June 2011 - 11:26 AM

[Fener]

Alkend, on 14 June 2011 - 11:24 AM, said:

i voted a low poster to get the thread moving along and get discussion going, i voted for merrid, i did mention you and serc fener i did and lo and behold you shoot to the top of the posting board. that doesn't bother me as much as the fact that you are saying we shouldn't vote on day one, you seem to be vigorously defending merrid and there is only one vote out there. i don't understand. you do not know who is on your team as i do not know, i was going to sit back and watch the discussion heat up a little more but i wanted to know if you are in favour of a day one lynch or against it? the reason i ask is up until the point i voted there was absolutely nothing to go on. now there are a few posts for us to read through. a comment from eloth pinged my radar, the part were he said he knows someone else on his team. i don't know about anybody else but i don't know who is on my team, and i was thinking that this could be a cult ability as there is obviously going to be a lot less of them to begin with. all in all your reactions in my opinion are unwarranted, one vote is not going to sway the masses but you react heavily to a low poster hunt, how else would we get a lynch today without the aftermath of the vote?

sigh....you all dont get it do you!!

Its not so much you voted for merrid.

its the fact that you guys (more eloth) think its perfectly fine to vote anybody off with no information on them.
And voting randomly is fine because thats what happens anyways.
Wich stinks!!

and i am the top poster now because i am online for a decent spell now for the first game since the game has started.

[Eloth]

Fener, on 14 June 2011 - 11:25 AM, said:

yea...

what gets me is alkend votes for a low poster extrememly early...right..ok...ok i can buy that.
I mean he is putting pressure on people...fine

But then eloth goes and defends the fact that voting off low posters is fine...because "hey, who cares...day one is random anyways"

I mean really?...wow



edit - tyoo

really wow, like wow. i mean wow, WOW WOW!!!!!

Yoiu really dont like the thought of low posters being voted off

if you sign up for a game and have one post in 32 hours then thats your fault. its not mine that people dont participate. Given scums tactic in the last game of low posting its perfectly reasonable to go for them early. Your reaction is an over reaction and just comes across as fake blustering.