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Hey everyone, I'm new here.
A question has been bugging me since I starting reading the series, and I still don't understand it.
What is the difference between Ascendants and Gods? Some people Ascend and become Gods, while others (Anomander Rake) don't seem at all Godly, and yet are listed under Ascendants in the Glossary...
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Ascendants vs. Gods
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Posted 22 September 2014 - 01:46 AM
Guess no one is really sure 
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Posted 22 September 2014 - 01:54 AM
Introspect, on 22 September 2014 - 01:46 AM, said:
Guess no one is really sure
on the contrary there are extensive and mind-bendingly complex discussions on this topic in differnet threads. Happy Searching
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Posted 22 September 2014 - 02:31 AM
Yeah, I'm not sure what book you're up to, Introspect, but if you're willing to brave spoilers for books beyond GotM, then this search results in a good amount of threads: http://goo.gl/17xedX [POSSIBLE SPOILERS ALL BOOKS]
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Posted 22 September 2014 - 03:27 PM
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Posted 22 September 2014 - 06:33 PM
I would venture that Introspect searched "ascendants vs gods" and that, since the title matched exactly, this thread was at the top.
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Posted 22 September 2014 - 08:01 PM
Whisperzzzzzzz, on 22 September 2014 - 06:33 PM, said:
I would venture that Introspect searched "ascendants vs gods" and that, since the title matched exactly, this thread was at the top.
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Posted 22 September 2014 - 10:17 PM
Whisperzzzzzzz said:
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I would venture that Introspect searched "ascendants vs gods" and that, since the title matched exactly, this thread was at the top.
I would venture that Introspect searched "ascendants vs gods" and that, since the title matched exactly, this thread was at the top.
What is..."searched"?
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Posted 22 September 2014 - 10:55 PM
Apt, on 22 September 2014 - 03:55 AM, said:
An 11 year old thread necro? Did somebody just beat Gusts record?
I hope the position of the resident necromancer is available. You guys will be seeing a lot of these!
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Posted 23 September 2014 - 12:58 AM
Introspect, on 22 September 2014 - 10:55 PM, said:
Apt, on 22 September 2014 - 03:55 AM, said:
An 11 year old thread necro? Did somebody just beat Gusts record?
I hope the position of the resident necromancer is available. You guys will be seeing a lot of these!
Hey, kidding aside it's all good when old threads get necro'd instead of new redundant ones being started. Keeps the clutter down. Welcome and carry on!
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Posted 23 September 2014 - 03:13 AM
Might as well change your nickname to Korbal.
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Posted 23 September 2014 - 05:11 AM
Since the thread has been brought back to life, I guess somebody should actually bother to answer the question.
This is the GotM forum so I will try to keep the descriptions vague and stay away from later examples.
All gods are ascendants but not all ascendants are gods.
Ascendance simply means that the person, being or creature has surpassed their mortal limits and have become something more. With ascendancy comes practically unlimited potential if the will and drive is there.
The difference is worship. Ascendants who are worshipped become gods, this means that their power increases but also that their power and even free will becomes bound by certain aspects and even the expectations of their worshipers.
How ever some ascendants choose to reject their godhood. Anomander Rake is such a person. He does not want worship and he does not demand followers.
This is the GotM forum so I will try to keep the descriptions vague and stay away from later examples.
All gods are ascendants but not all ascendants are gods.
Ascendance simply means that the person, being or creature has surpassed their mortal limits and have become something more. With ascendancy comes practically unlimited potential if the will and drive is there.
The difference is worship. Ascendants who are worshipped become gods, this means that their power increases but also that their power and even free will becomes bound by certain aspects and even the expectations of their worshipers.
How ever some ascendants choose to reject their godhood. Anomander Rake is such a person. He does not want worship and he does not demand followers.
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Posted 15 November 2014 - 05:56 PM
Abyss, on 23 September 2014 - 12:58 AM, said:
Introspect, on 22 September 2014 - 10:55 PM, said:
Apt, on 22 September 2014 - 03:55 AM, said:
An 11 year old thread necro? Did somebody just beat Gusts record?
I hope the position of the resident necromancer is available. You guys will be seeing a lot of these!
Hey, kidding aside it's all good when old threads get necro'd instead of new redundant ones being started. Keeps the clutter down. Welcome and carry on!
This is good to know. I've been on forums in the past where the exact opposite was encouraged, even enforced. Thread necromancy was seen as bad form and you'd get your hand slapped pretty good for doing so.
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Posted 15 November 2014 - 11:36 PM
Apt, on 23 September 2014 - 05:11 AM, said:
Since the thread has been brought back to life, I guess somebody should actually bother to answer the question.
This is the GotM forum so I will try to keep the descriptions vague and stay away from later examples.
All gods are ascendants but not all ascendants are gods.
Ascendance simply means that the person, being or creature has surpassed their mortal limits and have become something more. With ascendancy comes practically unlimited potential if the will and drive is there.
The difference is worship. Ascendants who are worshipped become gods, this means that their power increases but also that their power and even free will becomes bound by certain aspects and even the expectations of their worshipers.
How ever some ascendants choose to reject their godhood. Anomander Rake is such a person. He does not want worship and he does not demand followers.
This is the GotM forum so I will try to keep the descriptions vague and stay away from later examples.
All gods are ascendants but not all ascendants are gods.
Ascendance simply means that the person, being or creature has surpassed their mortal limits and have become something more. With ascendancy comes practically unlimited potential if the will and drive is there.
The difference is worship. Ascendants who are worshipped become gods, this means that their power increases but also that their power and even free will becomes bound by certain aspects and even the expectations of their worshipers.
How ever some ascendants choose to reject their godhood. Anomander Rake is such a person. He does not want worship and he does not demand followers.
I would argue that there are gods who were never ascendants. But staying spoiler free is hard...
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Posted 16 November 2014 - 12:38 AM
Briar King, on 15 November 2014 - 10:21 PM, said:
That makes no fucking sense. Aside from the entertainment in realizing it's an old thread it saves room on the forums.
Agreed. I've tried to understand it, and failed. Maybe the admins of such forums are non-ascendant God's? Or perhaps just a couple of guys who managed to sneak in the back door of an Azath house while the guardian was preoccupied?
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Posted 16 November 2014 - 12:41 AM
I'd have to disagree that you can skip ascendancy on the way to being a god, just because someones state of being isn't described as ascendant before becoming a god, doesn't mean they aren't ascendants.
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Posted 18 November 2014 - 06:14 PM
Do we know of any Ascendants who aren't fulfilling a role of the Deck of Dragons? I always figured people 'Ascended' to a role within Gods were entities who had been worshiped and likely ascended too?
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