[Aptorian]

WinterPhoenix, on 05 February 2016 - 10:30 AM, said:

Was going to suggest a great way to cheese the Taurus Demon, involving a jump slash from the tower with the two bow-wielding undead with pine resin equipped (which you can have by that point in the game), half it's health in one hit, plus no pesky arrow fire during the battle either.

I did sort of cheese the Taurus Demon. I did the jump down attack on it and afterwards just threw a bunch of fire bombs in its face, stabbing it when ever I got too close.

WinterPhoenix, on 05 February 2016 - 10:30 AM, said:

You can kill that dragon on the bridge as well without it ever landing, so long as you have a bow/ammo combo that does enough damage to offset it's healing when it covers itself with it's wings, just stand underneath the bridge close to the room with 3 rats (kill the rats lol) and fire away until it dies and drops juicy souls, uber cheese Though I'm not sure it's possible with the first bow you can acquire, it's been a very long time since I played DS1 only had a digital copy on an old 360.

How many arrows are we talking about here to kill it? Would I need to invest in some of the more expensive arrows or bolts?

Is it actually possible to fight it? I imagine if you had 100% fire resistance you could walk up to it and stab it in the face but I imagine that would turn into a boss fight.

WinterPhoenix, on 05 February 2016 - 10:30 AM, said:

Have you tried to fight any of the Black Knights yet? As of the Warthog encounter there are two you could've encountered iiirc, one in an alleyway in the Undead Burg, and the other atop the circular tower right before the Hog itself. Fun encounters, plus a great way to force yourself to learn backstabbing.

Yeah I met both of those guys. There's also some evil asshole with some kind of bone club at the bottom of the tower in Undead Burg. I don't feel good enough to fight any of them quite yet, all though I did get the first Black Knight down around 50% one time. Unfortunately he likes to throw direct attacks at me that drain my stamina.

I will get him when I have levelled up some more.

[Traveller]

The guy at the bottom of the tower is Havel. You can learn to backstab... or, lure him to the top of the tower. He won't follow you much further out of the door, so you can hit him, retreat, hit him again etc.

I don't consider 'alternate' ways to kill things in DS cheats of any sort - the game makes you find other, less obvious ways of winning. Like luring things to a high ledge, so that when you block their attack, they fall over the edge.

At this stage, keep an eye out for shortcuts back to bonfires. I initially missed that ladder you can kick down (in the room under the bridge with the Red Dragon on it) which gives you a nice shortcut back up.

This post has been edited by Traveller: 05 February 2016 - 11:23 AM

[WinterPhoenix]

Apt, on 05 February 2016 - 10:40 AM, said:

WinterPhoenix, on 05 February 2016 - 10:30 AM, said:

Was going to suggest a great way to cheese the Taurus Demon, involving a jump slash from the tower with the two bow-wielding undead with pine resin equipped (which you can have by that point in the game), half it's health in one hit, plus no pesky arrow fire during the battle either.

I did sort of cheese the Taurus Demon. I did the jump down attack on it and afterwards just threw a bunch of fire bombs in its face, stabbing it when ever I got too close.

WinterPhoenix, on 05 February 2016 - 10:30 AM, said:

You can kill that dragon on the bridge as well without it ever landing, so long as you have a bow/ammo combo that does enough damage to offset it's healing when it covers itself with it's wings, just stand underneath the bridge close to the room with 3 rats (kill the rats lol) and fire away until it dies and drops juicy souls, uber cheese Though I'm not sure it's possible with the first bow you can acquire, it's been a very long time since I played DS1 only had a digital copy on an old 360.

How many arrows are we talking about here to kill it? Would I need to invest in some of the more expensive arrows or bolts?

Is it actually possible to fight it? I imagine if you had 100% fire resistance you could walk up to it and stab it in the face but I imagine that would turn into a boss fight.

WinterPhoenix, on 05 February 2016 - 10:30 AM, said:

Have you tried to fight any of the Black Knights yet? As of the Warthog encounter there are two you could've encountered iiirc, one in an alleyway in the Undead Burg, and the other atop the circular tower right before the Hog itself. Fun encounters, plus a great way to force yourself to learn backstabbing.

Yeah I met both of those guys. There's also some evil asshole with some kind of bone club at the bottom of the tower in Undead Burg. I don't feel good enough to fight any of them quite yet, all though I did get the first Black Knight down around 50% one time. Unfortunately he likes to throw direct attacks at me that drain my stamina.

I will get him when I have levelled up some more.

Much as I love the game, it does somewhat invite cheese with a number of the boss fights lol

Yes it is possible to fight it one on one, to literally stand toe to toe with the beast, however, requires a fully upgraded full set of heavy armour (the Black Iron set is best) with massive fire resistance, a ring which increases that resistance further and the Flash Sweat pyromancy which further increases said resistance. There is a method for fighting it with no/very light armour, which requires good timing to both avoid his flame attacks and land your own quick enough so his healing doesn't overwhelm your damage, but I've never tried it - honestly the bow method is easier than both melee methods. It's also possible I believe (though, don't quote me on this) to simply run by the beast with a decent level of Vitality (sorry I can't be more specific) and little to no armour on, the lack of poise means the flames will knock you down and you'll take no further damage during the animation, once you get back up, you should be able to run straight past it into the room beyond, opening up a shortcut and meeting Solaire (praise the sun ) in the process - but again, I can't be 100% sure of the efficacy of that any more. As for the number of arrows it would take, I really can't be sure anymore, it varies of course depending on the damage you can do with your bow - which in itself varies with what bow it is, what level the bow is and your dex stat - I think using the standard bow, you'd want to buy a goodly amount of large arrows and upgrade the bow a few levels as well perhaps - plus it never hurts to pump a few points into dex either, the stat most bows scale with. All in all, I'm not sure how viable it is for you yet, but it's worth considering, and certainly a ton easier than meleeing the beast lol

'Evil asshole with some kind of bone club', ahhhhh Havel, how I love thee He is worth killing btw for his ring which drops when he is defeated (he does not respawn), it increases max equip burden by 50% which is sweet Iirc neither of the Black Knights are guarding anything special, the main reason for killing them is in hope that they drop one of their weapons or their shield when they die, the shield is great and at least the Halberd and the Sword are useful weapons on a first run through - though I never really got much from them.

I'll echo what Traveller said above, find a shield and some kind of spear/thrusting weapon and stick with it, the reason being that with such weapons you can attack from behind the relative safety of a raised shield, which is invaluable if you suck at or just plain don't want to learn parrying. Playing a Dex/Strength build is quite easy in the long run, relative to the Souls series anyhow lol. Recommendations, when you find the Halberd praise it forever! It won't out damage the Drake sword straight off, but the sword scales badly and is quickly left behind, plus the Halberd offers more in the way of versatility. On the playthrough that got me all the achievements, I used the Halberd right through new game (once I got it) at first simply because it offers superior range - the Great Scythe is even better, but it'll be awhile before you venture into the Catacombs which are it's residence. As for a shield, one that is available very early is the Balder Shield (from Balder Knights carrying the larger shield, not the buckler) just kill them till it drops, honestly it's worth it because it's weight to protection ration is actually one really good, plus it has great stability for a medium shield. Both the Knights and the Halberd are basically right on the other side of the currently closed gate behind the Warthog dude for what it's worth

Bleh, wow I can ramble about this game, my apologies for the huge walls of text lol

This post has been edited by WinterPhoenix: 05 February 2016 - 11:39 AM

[Tiste Simeon]

Apt, on 04 February 2016 - 11:33 AM, said:

If they bought you some kind of special edition of AC:Syndicate I will recommend you don't use the bonus weapons. They are way too powerful and basically ruin the feeling of slowly growing stronger.

Played some more Witness and Dark Souls.

The Witness.
After finally getting out of the marsh/tetris puzzle area (I had to use a guide because holy crap) I powered straight through the Sand Ruin place and the tower garden areas. Much easier or perhaps much more understandable to me. Now I am stuck in the quarry area. They are beginning to combine a lot of different type of puzzles now. It's doing my head in.

Dark Soils:
I defeated the Taurus demon and made my way into the Undead Parish. There's a giant armored Warthog there that is fucking impossible to fight. I can see there's a tiny opening in its ass but getting behind that thing is impossble.

In other news I went looking for that Drake sword and shot some dragons tail 20 times. I love the damage upgrade but this sword is pretty cumbersome compared to the ordinary long sword I was using.

I think it has some kind of bonus stuff on it - something about Charles Dickens's or something?

[Morgoth]

I killed the dragon by dodging the flame attacks and pummeling it with sorcery. It took a few tries.

[Khellendros]

Morgoth, on 05 February 2016 - 12:53 PM, said:

It took a few tries.

Most understated review of Dark Souls ever.

[Traveller]

Khellendros, on 05 February 2016 - 01:14 PM, said:

Morgoth, on 05 February 2016 - 12:53 PM, said:

It took a few tries.

Most understated review of Dark Souls ever.

Heh, yes. Sums it up pretty well I think.

I ignored the red dragon and went back and took it out later when I wanted some souls. And I had a bigger sword.

This post has been edited by Traveller: 05 February 2016 - 06:20 PM

[WinterPhoenix]

Yeah I forgot to say you could use sorcery to pummel it to death if you wished, makes it less difficult I suppose, because you just have to focus on dodging it's flames. Honestly though, I've never used sorcery in a souls game, not even once, I just don't like it. I fully recommend using arrows beneath the bridge, whenever it's possible to overcome his healing.

EDIT: What armour were you wearing when you took it on Traveller? I only did it toe to toe witha fully upgraded Black Iron set for the highest possible fire res, with Flash Sweat I guess it would be possible with lesser armour, but honestly cannot remember as much about the game as I used to (hard to believe considering that stupidly long post on the last page lol)

EDIT2: Oh and I echo what was said about shortcuts, always be on the lookout, they are very helpful, plus was wondering whether you chose the master key as your gift when you rolled your character, Apt?

This post has been edited by WinterPhoenix: 06 February 2016 - 01:04 AM

[Traveller]

Yeah it's been a while. But I played the shit out of that game!

Black Iron set is nice, I remember using the helm but the whole set was pretty heavy. I used the gold hemmed black set that can be found just round the corner from the Ceaseless Discharge - you can get the set without defeating it at that point, but it's really light and has, iirc, a high fire defence.

I always played more along the lines of 'don't get hit in the first place', so it suited me quite well.

The Red dragon was more of an annoyance at the start. I don't remember it as being too big a problem; I ran out to lure it down; dodged it's first stomp/bite/whatever it did, and slashed the hell out of it. As I said, I went back when I head upgraded, so it wasn't hard; I don't think it drops much but it's good to save some 'optional' bosses until you need the souls.

Apt are you puttimg any points into pyromancy? Its really handy to have alongside a sword if you don't have magic. An upgraded pyromancy flame with combustion is devastating to fire weak bosses.

It wasn't my favourite boss, but my most memorable fight was the Stray Demon. I was so, so ill prepared.. it took me ages to figure out his moves and actually beat it.

This post has been edited by Traveller: 06 February 2016 - 10:21 AM

[WinterPhoenix]

Traveller, on 06 February 2016 - 10:02 AM, said:

Yeah it's been a while. But I played the shit out of that game!

Black Iron set is nice, I remember using the helm but the whole set was pretty heavy. I used the gold hemmed black set that can be found just round the corner from the Ceaseless Discharge - you can get the set without defeating it at that point, but it's really light and has, iirc, a high fire defence.

I always played more along the lines of 'don't get hit in the first place', so it suited me quite well.

The Red dragon was more of an annoyance at the start. I don't remember it as being too big a problem; I ran out to lure it down; dodged it's first stomp/bite/whatever it did, and slashed the hell out of it. As I said, I went back when I head upgraded, so it wasn't hard; I don't think it drops much but it's good to save some 'optional' bosses until you need the souls.

Apt are you puttimg any points into pyromancy? Its really handy to have alongside a sword if you don't have magic. An upgraded pyromancy flame with combustion is devastating to fire weak bosses.

It wasn't my favourite boss, but my most memorable fight was the Stray Demon. I was so, so ill prepared.. it took me ages to figure out his moves and actually beat it.

It does look cool, I only ever used it for fighting the Drake one on one, and I only did that once, looking back the Gold-Hemmed set would have fit my style better tbh, combined with the Dark Wood Grain Ring, Grass Crest Shield and the whatever weapon I was using at the time.

I played the heck out of the game as well, but I only really had like 3 different characters, and the overwhelming majority of playtime was on the one where I got all the achievements. I went with a fairly evenly balanced Dex/Str build, with high End and just ignored all magery stats, which meant I could roll the light-as-***k, I'm-gonna-dance-around-you-and-laugh set-up or Ultra-heavy I'ma-laugh-of-all-your-attacks build (I.e Havel it up in here ) or anywhere in between. I didn't overload Str, so I couldn't one-hand the heaviest weapons (none of which I really found to be that great on the specifically heavy playthrough I did tbh) and I never bothered with the heaviest shields - Grass Crest, Black/Silver Knight and Balder are the only shields you ever really need tbh. So I'd run around with Gold-Hemmed, Mask of the Mother, Grain Ring and Grass Crest, then if I was fighting anything I wanted more protection for like Ornstein and Smough on NG+ (AKA Pikachu and Snorlax ) I'd go with Havel's (ring an all) with the Mask of the Father so I avoid that ugly fat roll lol

That was one if the things I loved about the game actually, being grossly unprepared for a boss wasn't always something that could just be dismissed by going back and doing something else first, it was often a matter of trial and error, learning move sets working out strategies etc. It never felt like engineered difficulty like with other games where difficulty sliders are used as a method of introducing enemies that simply become damage sponges! Hands down the most annoying enemy in the game, boss or not, is the Bed of Chaos!!! Took me more tries than any other boss by a long, long way! Even the first time I came across the Capra Demon and Ornery and Smog (generally accepted ramp-ups of game difficulty) it never took me anywhere near as many tries. Honestly it was way over 20 tries :/ By comparison, I beat the games final boss on my first try. I'll just leave Apt to wonder what made it so annoying until that particular fight has reared it's ugly head!

EDIT: I think Sif was and is my fave boss, followed by Pikachu and Snorlax As for least prepared, Ceaseless Discharge by a mile, I didn't even know it was there, let along know about the easy method of defeating it!

This post has been edited by WinterPhoenix: 06 February 2016 - 01:09 PM

[Traveller]

Yes, that run up to the Bed of Chaos got taken a lot of times - only to get one-hit stomped on arrival down the slope! That said, I didn't spend much time on it until NG+.

Like the Four Kings. Killed them second try on first playthrough. Then got unbelievably stuck when I played a mage build.

I think I used Quelaags chaos sword for pretty much everything. Sif was pretty but the Gaping Dragon has the best 'wtf is that?' entrance.

I like the way you can significantly improve your chances of winning against bosses with careful selection of rings, weapons and armor. I beat the Taurus demon in a loincloth as I was quicker, and I think I remember fighting Seath wearing a white skirt as it had high petrification resistance.

This post has been edited by Traveller: 06 February 2016 - 02:39 PM

[WinterPhoenix]

Traveller, on 06 February 2016 - 02:35 PM, said:

Yes, that run up to the Bed of Chaos got taken a lot of times - only to get one-hit stomped on arrival down the slope! That said, I didn't spend much time on it until NG+.

Like the Four Kings. Killed them second try on first playthrough. Then got unbelievably stuck when I played a mage build.

I think I used Quelaags chaos sword for pretty much everything. Sif was pretty but the Gaping Dragon has the best 'wtf is that?' entrance.

I like the way you can significantly improve your chances of winning against bosses with careful selection of rings, weapons and armor. I beat the Taurus demon in a loincloth as I was quicker, and I think I remember fighting Seath wearing a white skirt as it had high petrification resistance.

You should have seen my brother when I died like 20 times in a row, he delights in my misery Weirdly I had nowhere near as much trouble on NG+, 3-4 tries I think. 4 Kings were much more difficult for me on NG+, ran in expecting to steamroll like I did in NG, got a sharp reminder of what game I was playing veeeery quickly lol

Yeah true about the Gaping Dragon being a wtf moment, my brother (rather indicative of him in general I'm afraid ) calls it the Vagina Dragon! I'm afraid I can't think of it by any other name anymore lol.

Those crystals can be a real nightmare in the Seath fight, I specifically wore armour to combat petrification in NG, but I think I just used the Gold-Hemmed on NG+ and further, think I might have got more use out of that set than any other actually. Curse is the worst as far as statuses, those damn curse frogs in inside the tree at the bottom of Blighttown!!!!!

As far as weapons go, I used the Halberd for most of NG, then switched to the Fury Sword and used that right through NG+. It falls away in damage after awhile though, because the damage it does gets checked against an enemies physical resistance and it's fire resistance :/ Plus it's works better in tandem with humanity, up to 10 anyway, no further benefit after that I think. I started using the Great Scythe in NG++. Nonetheless the Fury Sword looks badass, defo my favourite weapon

[Traveller]

I think I'm going to have a look at the trade-in shop for a used DS for ps3. I haven't played since I put the xbox away in favour of my ps3 + 4. Which was a while ago now.

Although.. DS's 3 is getting closer...

[WinterPhoenix]

Yeah, I'm getting a cheap 360 since my old one is now with my brother (we went halves when we bought it, so when I moved away I let him keep it), going to have to get a copy of DS as well, haven't played with a new character in years now, will be cool to start again.

This post has been edited by WinterPhoenix: 07 February 2016 - 01:13 PM

[Silencer]

Just finished Tomb Raider, started Rise of. First one was great, second one is fantastic. Loving these games.

[Aptorian]

Tiste Simeon, on 05 February 2016 - 12:25 PM, said:

Apt, on 04 February 2016 - 11:33 AM, said:

If they bought you some kind of special edition of AC:Syndicate I will recommend you don't use the bonus weapons. They are way too powerful and basically ruin the feeling of slowly growing stronger.

I think it has some kind of bonus stuff on it - something about Charles Dickens's or something?

I think that's just the ordinary limited edition stuff you get for pre-ordering the game or buying it from a certain store.

Those missions are mostly throw away.

Silencer, on 07 February 2016 - 01:31 PM, said:

Just finished Tomb Raider, started Rise of. First one was great, second one is fantastic. Loving these games.

I thought the pacing between doing story related scripted events and the open world tomb exploring was fantastic. I hope they continue to just pour more money into making tombs and open worlds to run around in.

At some point the T-rex MUST show up.

Grief, on 04 February 2016 - 11:47 PM, said:

Apt, on 04 February 2016 - 11:33 AM, said:

Dark Soils:
I defeated the Taurus demon and made my way into the Undead Parish. There's a giant armored Warthog there that is fucking impossible to fight. I can see there's a tiny opening in its ass but getting behind that thing is impossble.

If you want a tip:

Spoiler

Iirc you can get it to run into the fire.

Turned out I didn't have to. I actually managed to perform a perfect backstab on that monster. I just hammered the Drake sword through the hole in its ass. Murdered that thing and it turns out it doesn't respawn! I was so happy, unfortunately I got poisoned by a rat, and died right after but I MURDERED that armored asshole.

WinterPhoenix, on 06 February 2016 - 12:54 AM, said:

EDIT2: Oh and I echo what was said about shortcuts, always be on the lookout, they are very helpful, plus was wondering whether you chose the master key as your gift when you rolled your character, Apt?

I checked a guide before I started and they recommended picking the Masterkey so that's what I got.

Re: Magic. I don't have any magic so far... as far as I know?!? I assume somebody sells magic spells somewhere like in Demon's Souls? I met some fat page in the opening area that sells miracles but I don't really know whether I should be investing in those things.

Got further in the Undead Parish Area. I made it over a bridge and found a fire to sit down at. In the very next room there is some kind of crazy scorpion robot monster that throws electro balls at people so fuck him. I found a firelink shrine soul thingy that I believe I am meant to upgrade my flasks with. Currently I have like 5 different new passages that I have to explore. So many options! So many new ways to die!

EDIT: Now that I remember it. In Undead Burg there's a room with some kind of glowing circle. It's just hanging out a little bit over the floor. What's up with that thing? Is it a teleportation node or something?

More EDIT:
On the left of the characters health and stamina bar there is a circle with a number in it. What does that mean? At first I thought it was counting how many levels I could gain by spending souls at a fire shrine. But some times it seems higher than the amount of souls I have.

Regarding upgrading weapons. I already have a Halberd. Would I be able to upgrade that thing above 200 damage? Or should I be looking out for special/boss Halberds or spears?

Also I discovered some new passages in the opening area and I am sneaking around in some kind of "Londo" area. There's a bunch of dead zombies hanging out but they don't seem to aggro. I am considering murdering them for their precious souls but I wonder if that is a "bad" action or there is some consequence to murdering these guys. EDIT: Londo area is haunted! Stupid ghosts and their ghost knives. I will get my revenge!

This post has been edited by Apt: 07 February 2016 - 05:25 PM

[Tiste Simeon]

Apt, on 07 February 2016 - 04:12 PM, said:

Tiste Simeon, on 05 February 2016 - 12:25 PM, said:

Apt, on 04 February 2016 - 11:33 AM, said:

If they bought you some kind of special edition of AC:Syndicate I will recommend you don't use the bonus weapons. They are way too powerful and basically ruin the feeling of slowly growing stronger.

I think it has some kind of bonus stuff on it - something about Charles Dickens's or something?

I think that's just the ordinary limited edition stuff you get for pre-ordering the game or buying it from a certain store.

Those missions are mostly throw away.

Ah fair enough. I think she got it from Amazon. In which case I won't have any of the bonus stuff cos I don't play online or have PSN.

[Traveller]

Apt, on 07 February 2016 - 04:12 PM, said:

WinterPhoenix, on 06 February 2016 - 12:54 AM, said:

EDIT2: Oh and I echo what was said about shortcuts, always be on the lookout, they are very helpful, plus was wondering whether you chose the master key as your gift when you rolled your character, Apt?

I checked a guide before I started and they recommended picking the Masterkey so that's what I got.

Re: Magic. I don't have any magic so far... as far as I know?!? I assume somebody sells magic spells somewhere like in Demon's Souls? I met some fat page in the opening area that sells miracles but I don't really know whether I should be investing in those things.

Got further in the Undead Parish Area. I made it over a bridge and found a fire to sit down at. In the very next room there is some kind of crazy scorpion robot monster that throws electro balls at people so fuck him. I found a firelink shrine soul thingy that I believe I am meant to upgrade my flasks with. Currently I have like 5 different new passages that I have to explore. So many options! So many new ways to die!

EDIT: Now that I remember it. In Undead Burg there's a room with some kind of glowing circle. It's just hanging out a little bit over the floor. What's up with that thing? Is it a teleportation node or something?

More EDIT:
On the left of the characters health and stamina bar there is a circle with a number in it. What does that mean? At first I thought it was counting how many levels I could gain by spending souls at a fire shrine. But some times it seems higher than the amount of souls I have.

Regarding upgrading weapons. I already have a Halberd. Would I be able to upgrade that thing above 200 damage? Or should I be looking out for special/boss Halberds or spears?

Also I discovered some new passages in the opening area and I am sneaking around in some kind of "Londo" area. There's a bunch of dead zombies hanging out but they don't seem to aggro. I am considering murdering them for their precious souls but I wonder if that is a "bad" action or there is some consequence to murdering these guys. EDIT: Londo area is haunted! Stupid ghosts and their ghost knives. I will get my revenge!

The crazy scorpion thing is probably a Prowling Demon. They're beatable but difficult as they chuck lightning if you're far away, and jump of you get close. You can stay back, dodge the spells, and shoot arrows if you've got them. The garden is just past him.

The flooded Londo area is better to tackle later. Although there's an npc in a cell just down the steps who will sell you stuff. To do magic, you can buy a catalyst from him. And soul arrow spells. To cast, you need the catalyst in one hand, and the spell you want selected (requires the right stats to equip) With miracles,you need a talisman and some miracles in the slot instead.

The number in the top left is Humanity. When you die, you become Hollow - you can use humanity at a bonfire to become human again. Although you are more likely to be invaded, you get higher discovery points the more you have. Also chaos weapons get a boosted attack, and your curse resistance is higher. But when you die you lose it all unless you get back to your bloodstain without dying again.

There are Smiths and Npcs about. They will upgrade weapons to a certain level; to upgrade past +5 you'll need to find Embers, which are hidden around different levels. You need them off you want to add fire/lightning etc to weapons. Also when you find them, npcs that sell purging stones and purple moss, for removing curses and toxins.

You can also buy or find Transient Curse - which let's you damage ghosts!

This post has been edited by Traveller: 07 February 2016 - 08:52 PM

[Traveller]

Yes, you put your souls into the magic stats instead of strength etc. I played it through second time as a mage. Different game entirely. You can play as a cleric too, and put a ton into Faith - there are a load of miracles I've never been able to use.

Still playing Fallout 4, but I think I might be reaching the stage where I can't really be bothered to carry on.

This post has been edited by Traveller: 07 February 2016 - 11:24 PM

[Traveller]

Briar King, on 08 February 2016 - 02:42 AM, said:

I ll pick em up if they are on that $20 rack. I know I ll suck it them though after BB.

You might find things different with the shield - Bloodborne forces you to attack, and rewards you for it. Jump in that quick in DS and you usually regret it.

Give it a go if you can find it cheap - it's an amazing game.

This post has been edited by Traveller: 08 February 2016 - 06:49 AM