[Path-Shaper]

Loki joins the morale party.

Gamelon, on 12 April 2011 - 05:41 AM, said:

Top chef

Path-Shaper, on 12 April 2011 - 05:43 AM, said:

Subject should be

Action - Top chef

The body of your message should be why you're doing it, but I'll accept this for now.

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Roldom is trying to get the info from Lizra.

Karatallid, on 12 April 2011 - 06:12 AM, said:

howdi ruse,

you said you had certain allience abilitys, do you mind telling me what they are?

[Path-Shaper]

Reference material

Dureza Tribe
Pensador Tribe

1. Alkend (popcorn) - Mentalist | 1 Follower < IMMUNE AT NEXT TRIBAL COUNCIL >
2. Anomandaris (blaze) - dktorode | 1 Deceiver (+1I)
3. Barghast (loopy) - twelve | 1 Survivalist (+1E)
4. D'riss (hopscotch) - Tattersail | 1 Survivalist (+1E)
5. Eloth (beiber) - Tapper | 1 Leader (+1I)
6. Fener (platonic) - drinksinbars | 1 Survivalist (+1E)
7. Gamelon (greek) - Loki | 1 Survivalist (+1E)
8. Hood's Path (portrait) - Trull's son | 1 Survivalist (+1E) ## Received: Serc ##
9. Kalse (hobbit) - ansible | 1 Genius (+1I)
10. Karatallid (super) - Roldom | 1 Survivalist (+1E)
11. Liosan (brilliant) - HiddenOne | 1 Challenger (+1S) < IMMUNE AT NEXT TRIBAL COUNCIL >
12. Merrid (combustion) - Vengeance | 1 Survivalist (+1E) ## Received: Serc ##
13. Okaros (flippant) - snake0026 | 1 Survivalist (+1E)
14. Ruse (apology) - Lizra | 1 Follower
15. Serc (gusting) - D'rek | 1 Leader (+1I) ## Forged: Hood's Path, Merrid ##
16. Shadow (mordite) - Shinrei | 1 Deceiver (Survivalist) (+1E)
17. Tiamatha (companion) - The Dude | 1 Follower
18. Tulas Shorn (spare) - Bent | 1 Genius (+1I)

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D'riss wondering what his stats are, but it's too early to let him know that.

D, on 12 April 2011 - 06:44 AM, said:

So do all my team have +1 Morale now and does this mean I have +2 endurance?

Path-Shaper, on 12 April 2011 - 02:45 PM, said:

All Morale updates will not occur until the beginning of the next phase (aka the Reward + Immunity challenge).

If it goes "as you expect" you will gain one Morale bracket (to Good). You still only have a +1 Endurance bonus. Your rolls would be basically <Roll> + 1 (Morale) + 1 (Endurance). You can think of this as a +2 to Endurance, but I keep all bonuses separate on my sheet.

Roldom still thinks I'm somehow trying to mock him... get over it, dude!

Karatallid, on 12 April 2011 - 07:42 AM, said:

did you put me on a team full of survivalists just to mock the fact i chose it because i didnt think anyone else would?

I think Tapper's confused here... Roldom (Karat) claimed Survivalist but Tapper's reading what Lizra (Ruse) said about Karat being a Leader. There's a mix-up!

Eloth, on 12 April 2011 - 07:59 AM, said:

Hmm. Karatallid sounds really different from me, yet he claims Leader as well. That makes revealing... tough.

Path-Shaper, on 12 April 2011 - 02:47 PM, said:

What are you thinking?

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Dibs claims to want to WIN but if he isn't around during the game, it will be hard for him to do so. With so many survivalists in the game, I forsee some of them getting voted off early since who needs all that extra, unused Morale?

Fener, on 12 April 2011 - 07:05 AM, said:

to win - by any means necessary

Fener, on 12 April 2011 - 09:15 AM, said:

i am gonna let others take the front seat at moment and be helpful - if things go right we can avoid tribal council, things go wrong we can lynch those who make the plans,

how do i activate my cooking. cause i want some food!

Fener, on 12 April 2011 - 09:25 AM, said:

Subject: Action - top chef
I want to raise morale going into the challenge

Path-Shaper, on 12 April 2011 - 03:05 PM, said:

Got it.

Shin wants to forge a few alliances, too.

Shadow, on 12 April 2011 - 10:48 AM, said:

I would like to forge an aliances with Fener and Karat. How can I deceive if I have no one to deceive!

Not that I really have anythign to deceive about at this point...

I'm not even sure how I can use this to my advantage....yet. I think I know who Karat is (a big thing for me, since I'm a terrible alt guesser). I want him close enough to smell his treachery.

Path-Shaper, on 12 April 2011 - 03:07 PM, said:

You should really use the standard format of Forge Alliance - <Player> but since our time zones are fairly out of sync, I'll accept these.

Vengenace likes Drek's plans and is in.

Merrid, on 12 April 2011 - 11:39 AM, said:

I am in. I was thinking a long these lines yesterday.

DKT wants to fake being a Challenger (or at least know about it, since he already claimed to have an INT bonus). He's also a little late to the strategy table.

Anomandaris, on 12 April 2011 - 12:06 PM, said:

Psych Challenger

Can i do this once a day or how does it work?

Anomandaris, on 12 April 2011 - 12:09 PM, said:

Im not sure...i suppose i need to do my best and hope we strategize well for the challenges and hopefully win more than we lose.
Its all down to the throw of the dice tho...


shit...ill have to see how things work in order to formulate any strategy this is all kinda new.

Ruse joins up with Karat!

Ruse, on 12 April 2011 - 02:18 PM, said:

Hi there,

right now my abilitys are only passive and result in me getting informed about the role and level of all my alliances.

To Ruse/Lizra

Path-Shaper, on 12 April 2011 - 03:11 PM, said:

You have entered into an alliance with Karatallid.

Karatallid is a Level 1 Survivalist

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 12 April 2011 - 03:12 PM

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Tattersail is ready for this challenge to begin! So am I!

D, on 12 April 2011 - 03:12 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 11 April 2011 - 04:45 PM, said:

Noted, this will occur *after* the Individual Immunity Challenge.

I was just wondering if this will affect this challenge now?

Path-Shaper, on 12 April 2011 - 03:16 PM, said:

Yes, but I won't announce the 'net' Morale gains or penalties until you have finalized your Challenge plans.

Thus far, D'rek and Vengey are the only two communicating.

Merrid, on 12 April 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

Who else us going to be in the alliance? Who should I approach. Obviosly we want the people who are more active.

Serc, on 12 April 2011 - 03:29 PM, said:

Allright, sounds good. I've also branched out to HP, which would make us 3, though he hasn't been on to reply yet. If each of you forges alliance with one other person it will bring us to 5. With you and me we have a +INT and a +END person, while HP is an unknown, so I recommend you pick one of the no-stats people, Tiam or Alkend. Not sure what role-type they would be, but I figure diversity of the team will keep us from failing at any one thing, right? Or would you prefer to go for an endurance + intelligence superteam?

Tapper is displeased with me...

Eloth, on 12 April 2011 - 03:32 PM, said:

Panic. Where is Tulas fucking Shorn? We're fucked. This is not mafia. Why do we all get along so far? What are the target numbers you're using, and how much can be solved by math? Basically, mostly second guessing circumstantial mechanical stuff and trying to figure out what the best formulas for solving stuff are.

One thing is fo'sho tho: I'll be voting TS if we lose the challenge.

Trull's son is back, and a little unsure how to proceed.

Hood, on 11 April 2011 - 05:49 PM, said:

Well I've never really watched survivor, and seeing as this isn't a traditional mafia game, I'm at a loss. I'll probably try and keep my head down a bit, in hopes that others rise up and so they can target one another as the greatest threat. If I make it into the later game I might play more aggressively.

And he's in with D'rek's team.

Hood, on 12 April 2011 - 03:37 PM, said:

Yea sure. Who else are you thinking of adding to this 5 person alliance?

Serc, on 12 April 2011 - 03:40 PM, said:

Merrid is already in, and then each of you should branch out to 1 more person. I was thinking we should aim for a diversity of stats and roles, but there's also the alternative of going for an Endurance and Intelligence superteam.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 12 April 2011 - 03:41 PM

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Trull wants to forge up with DKT, but he also wants to hit someone on the other tribe.

Hood, on 12 April 2011 - 03:49 PM, said:

Not exactly sure how this works, but I'd like to
Forge Alliance with Anomandaris


I'm doing this because of his +1 stat bonus to intelligence. I feel this will become very useful later on. On top of this, branching to another member withing our tribe will be useful towards that little alliance Serc seems to be setting up. To be honest, i like how serc is taking the initiative. Might allow others to fade back a bit.

Hood, on 12 April 2011 - 04:02 PM, said:

Forge Alliance with Liosan


I'm just branching out into the other tribe. I think it would be best to borrow from Serc in this regard, and prepare for the worst come Tribal Council merge. Hopefully I can set up a similar system, except with more people from the Pend tribe.

DKT is very confused by his class.

Anomandaris, on 12 April 2011 - 03:54 PM, said:

WTF is "flavour" text or "ability Text"?

Anomandaris, on 12 April 2011 - 03:55 PM, said:

i dont see what i could do with that?...

Path-Shaper, on 12 April 2011 - 04:52 PM, said:

The ability name is underlined.
The flavor text is in italics. It is a clue as to what the ability may due.
The ability name is in bold and is a description of the ability. Read your own role for an example.

Remember that you are a master of deception. It will may be useful for you to pretend you are someone you are not, at times.

Trull is revealing more information than maybe D'rek wants to have known... it's never good to let a Deceiver have too much extra information. We'll see what DKT does with this.

Hood, on 12 April 2011 - 03:55 PM, said:

Hey there Ano, I won't beat around the bush. Serc is setting up a five person alliance to put us in an ideal situation when TC is in session. The Tribal Council merge will eventually happen, and so we best be in position to take advantage of the discord that will no doubt result. The alliance would allow us to have a good number in the council to vote out people who are outside of the alliance. Are you in?

HiddenOne gets clarification about his powers.

Liosan, on 12 April 2011 - 04:07 PM, said:

Regarding abilities - My actions as Challenger don't have an 'A' beside them so I assume this means they are in effect at all times. Do I need to declare which player I am using "Shoulder burden" for or will you apply it as needed? Also will both work at the same time? Thanks

Path-Shaper, on 12 April 2011 - 04:54 PM, said:

Yes, both of your abilities are passive and I will use them as they are best used to your benefit.

Trull tells D'rek about his current strategy.

Hood, on 12 April 2011 - 03:50 PM, said:

I'm trying to bring Anomandaris into the fold. Some added intelligence on top of that which you provide should be good. Maybe you can communicate to merrid to focus on someone with strength?

Serc, on 12 April 2011 - 04:10 PM, said:

Okay, cool. I told him to go for Alkend or Tiam, the ones with supposedly no stats. No one has claimed to have STR, but maybe they'll level up to have some.

D'rek and Vengey also plot it out.

Merrid, on 12 April 2011 - 04:15 PM, said:

I think that a well diversified team is what we need to go with. So a strengh would be nice.

2 intellects, 2 endurance, 1 strength. Or something like thst.

Serc, on 12 April 2011 - 04:49 PM, said:

Okay, well HP is in and wants to add Ano, so that would make 2 INTs and 2 ENDs. We don't have any professed strong people, but Alk or Tiam are the two that are not +INTs or +ENDs and maybe they'll evolve into one. It's up to you who you'd like to add-on.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 12 April 2011 - 04:57 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Dureza Tribe: Alkend, Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Hood's Path, Kalse, Merrid, Serc, Tiamatha
Pensador Tribe: Eloth, Fener, Gamelon, Karatallid, Liosan, Okaros, Ruse, Shadow, Tulas Shorn

All players have +2 Morale except Ruse (+1 Morale)
Liosan grants +1 Strength to Karatallid.
Challenge Leg 1
S+E:20

Dureza: Anomandaris (1I) + Barghast (1E) 20 | 1 + 6 + 1 + 2 + 2 = 12 | 8
Pensador: Karatallid (1E) + Liosan (1S) 20 | 5 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 2 = 14 | 6

Dureza: Anomandaris (1I) + Barghast (1E) 8 | 5 + 2 + 1 + 2 + 2 | -4 => 0.333
Pensador: Karatallid (1E) + Liosan (1S) 6 | 7 + 10 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 2 = 24 | -18 => 0.75

Bonus!
Dureza: D'riss (1E) + Kalse (1I) 20 | (6 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 2) * 0.333 = 4 | 16
Pensador: Okaros (1E) + Tulas Shorn (1I) 20 | (2 + 3 + 1 + 2 + 2) * 0.75 = 7 | 13

Dureza: D'riss (1E) + Kalse (1I) 16 | (7 + 3 + 1 + 2 + 2) = 15 | 1
Pensador: Okaros (1E) + Tulas Shorn (1I) 13 | (3 + 9 + 1 + 2 + 2) = 17 | -4 => 0.235

Bonus!
Pensador: Gamelon (1E) + Liosan (1S -2) 20 | (5 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 2 - 2) * 0.235 = 2 | 18

Dureza: D'riss (1E) + Kalse (1I) 1 | (7 + 7 + 1 + 2 + 2) = 19 | -18 => 0.947
Pensador: Gamelon (1E) + Liosan (1S -2) 18 | (2 + 7 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 2 - 2) = 12 | 6

Bonus!
Dureza: Alkend + Serc (1I) 20 | (6 + 5 + 2 + 2) * 0.947 = 14 | 6

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Dureza: Alkend + Serc (1I) 6 | (5 + 1 + 2 + 2) = 10 | -4 => .40
Pensador: Gamelon (1E) + Liosan (1S -2) 6 | (8 + 9 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 2 - 2) = 21 | -15 => 0.714

Bonus!
Dureza: Merrid (1E) + D'riss (1E -2) 20 | (6 + 5 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 2 - 2) * 0.40 = 6 | 14
Pensador: Shadow (1I) + Eloth (1I) 20 | (1 + 2 + 2 + 2) * 0.714 = 4 | 16

Dureza: Merrid (1E) + D'riss (1E -2) 14 | (2 + 5 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 2 - 2) = 11 | 3
Pensador: Shadow (1I) + Eloth (1I) 16 | (7 + 5 + 2 + 2) * 0.714 = 16 | 0

Dureza: Merrid (1E) + D'riss (1E -2) 3 | (3 + 8 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 2 - 2) = 15 | -12 => .80
Pensador: Ruse + Fener (1E) 20 | (9 + 5 + 1 + 1 + 2) = 18 | 2

Bonus!
Dureza: Hood's Path (1E) + Tiamatha 20 | (4 + 7 + 1 + 2 + 2) * .80 = 12 | 8

Dureza: Hood's Path (1E) + Tiamatha 8 | (10 + 8 + 1 + 2 + 2) = 23 | -15 => 0.652
Pensador: Ruse + Fener (1E) 2 | (7 + 4 + 1 + 1 + 2) = 15 | -13 => 0.867

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[Path-Shaper]

Dureza Tribe: Alkend, Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Hood's Path, Kalse, Merrid, Serc, Tiamatha
Pensador Tribe: Eloth, Fener, Gamelon, Karatallid, Liosan, Okaros, Ruse, Shadow, Tulas Shorn

All players have +2 Morale except Ruse (+1 Morale)
Liosan grants +1 Strength to Karatallid.

Dureza: Anomandaris (1I), Kalse (1I), Serc (1I), HP: +3x2 + 8 = +14 INT, +10 STR (no strength bonuses)
Pensador: Eloth (1I), Shadow (1I), Tulas Shorn (1I), Ruse: INT (+6 total), +3x2 + 7 = 13 INT, +12 STR (+10 Morale + 1S Liosan +1S Karatallid)

Challenge Leg 2
S+I(doubled I):100

Bonus!
Dureza (I+14, S+10) 100 | (1 + 8 + 2 + 7 + 8 + 3 + 10 + 4 + 7 + 14 + 10) * 0.652 = 48 | 52
Pensador (I+13, S+12) 100 | (3 + 5 + 2 + 1 + 6 + 7 + 3 + 2 + 3 + 13 + 12) * 0.867 = 49 | 51

Dureza (I+14, S+10) 52 | (7 + 9 + 5 + 2 + 4 + 7 + 9 + 1 + 2 + 14 + 10) = 70 | -18 => 0.256
Pensador (I+13, S+12) 51 | (3 + 5 + 7 + 1 + 2 + 2 + 3 + 1 + 1 + 13 + 12) = 50 | 1

[Path-Shaper]

Dureza Tribe: Alkend, Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Hood's Path, Kalse, Merrid, Serc, Tiamatha
Pensador Tribe: Eloth, Fener, Gamelon, Karatallid, Liosan, Okaros, Ruse, Shadow, Tulas Shorn

Challenge Leg 3.1
S:6

Bonus!
Dureza: Merrid 6 | (6 + 2) * 0.256 = 2 | 4

Dureza: Anomandaris (1I), Kalse (1I), Serc (1I), HP: +3x2 + 8 = +14 INT, +10 STR (no strength bonuses)
Pensador: Eloth (1I), Shadow (1I), Tulas Shorn (1I), Ruse: INT (+6 total), +3x2 + 7 = 13 INT, +12 STR (+10 Morale + 1S Liosan +1S Karatallid)

Challenge Leg 2
S+I(doubled I):100
Challenge Leg 3.1
S:6

Dureza: Merrid (1E) 4 | (2 + 2) | 0
Pensador (I+13, S+12) 1 | (10 + 7 + 6 + 1 + 10 + 4 + 10 + 1 + 10 + 13 + 12) = 84 | -83 => 0.988

Bonus!
Pensador: Fener (1E) 6 | (5 + 2) * 0.988 = 6 | 0

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Challenge Leg 3.2
E:25

Dureza: Merrid (1E) 25 | (3 + 1 + 2) = 6 | 19 | (10 + 1 + 2) = 13 | 6 | (2 + 1 + 2) | 1
Pensador: Fener (1E) 25 | (10 + 1 + 2) = 13 | 12 | (2 + 1 + 2) = 5 | 7 | (8 + 1 + 2) | -4

Pensador wins!

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 12 April 2011 - 06:47 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Wow, very exciting challenge... and Pensador squeaks it out. For posterity, I believe they won because of Liosan. He provided extra bonuses in the first and second legs of the challenge. It slightly outweighed Ruse's lower Morale. Down to the wire, as it should go, and I'm pleased with the results.

Now, one of Alkend, Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Hood's Path, Kalse, Merrid, Serc, Tiamatha is going home... will Serc's alliance take charge and get rid of someone, or will it fall apart before it even begins?

[Path-Shaper]

The Dude is ready to form an alliance! This is how the follower should be played, although his targets are not the strongest.

Tiamatha, on 12 April 2011 - 05:12 PM, said:

Form Alliance with Barghast

Form Alliance with Alkend

not sure if this is how you do it... so many threads. I looked in the main rules thread but didn't see anything. Challenge hasn't ended .. or even started yet so I should be good on time. Let me know if I need to do something differently.

Path-Shaper, on 12 April 2011 - 07:04 PM, said:

It's Forge Alliance - <Name> but I will accept your actions, as stated.

If one of your targets accepts the alliance, you will then gain the Informant knowledge.

twelve thinks allying with D'rek is a good move. I agree.

Barghast, on 12 April 2011 - 06:12 PM, said:

Looks like Serc is one of the more active members and he looks to have chosen the genuis role. I would like to form alliances with people who are strong in the different categories for challenges so when it comes to individual immunity challenges hopefully someone in my alliance will win.

[Path-Shaper]

Vengey wants to hook up with Ment. Good move, although he thinks Ment is a Challenger. I wonder if Ment will try to play on that?

Merrid, on 12 April 2011 - 06:44 PM, said:

Change to alkend

[Path-Shaper]

The alliances are in full buzz! Serc's plan is really working for her... but will it work against her in the future?

The Dude wants to get together with twelve... will that save him from elimination since twelve is allied with Serc? He does the same with Ment, who's being somewhat ignored... although people think he's fairly strong?

Tiamatha, on 12 April 2011 - 07:18 PM, said:

Hi Barghast- You seemed on the up and up so I was wondering if you might be open to considering an alliance within our tribe. I've watched a lot of survivor, and feel like having a power group within the tribe is a good idea. Let me know what ya think

Tiamatha, on 12 April 2011 - 07:20 PM, said:

Hi Alkend- You seemed on the up and up so I was wondering if you might be open to considering an alliance within our tribe. I've watched a lot of survivor, and feel like having a power group within the tribe is a good idea. Let me know what ya think If you think its a good idea, wondering who else on the tribe we might want to bring in, a 4 person alliance would make us a pretty strong force.

The Dude is happy with the game thus far.

Tiamatha, on 12 April 2011 - 07:21 PM, said:

Cool thanks PB. Loving the game so far. (though not that damn challenge outcome)

Path-Shaper, on 12 April 2011 - 07:41 PM, said:

Can't win 'em all Dude =)

Looks like dibsy accepted Shadow's request to ally up. This will be a good time to get to know each other since they are not going to tribal.

Fener, on 12 April 2011 - 07:34 PM, said:

hows it going mate

Uh oh... The Dude may be in a lot of trouble... D'rek is targeting him for an early vote! I hope that some of the people who like this game will not get voted out too early =)

Serc, on 12 April 2011 - 07:35 PM, said:

Okay, so the alliance is:

Serc
Merrid
HP
Alkend (hasn't yet confirmed)
Anomandaris (hasn't yet confirmed)

which means tonight we're voting for one of:

Tiam
Kalse
Barghast
D'riss

Of the four, I favour Tiam because he's got no alleged bonus stats, plus his timezone apparently doesn't match up as well with most of us and that may become a problem in planning challenges. Hard to judge content at this point, but he's not one of our big stars, either.

Thoughts? Also, any good ideas for a name for the alliance?

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[Path-Shaper]

Vengey puts forward the offer to Ment... although Ment is immediately dubious. He knows that going in as the 4th or 5th means you are considered somewhat expendable.

Alkend, on 12 April 2011 - 07:32 PM, said:

umm, cool?

Merrid, on 12 April 2011 - 07:35 PM, said:

Hey alkend,

There are a group of us (5) if you join that are wanting to join together till the finish. It is a balanced group as far as abilities go.

Would you be interested in joining us?

Alkend, on 12 April 2011 - 07:38 PM, said:

who's in so far?
and how are we planing to deal with the situation once it's down to the last 5?

Merrid, on 12 April 2011 - 07:45 PM, said:

Right now we have confirm on 3 one of the others hasn't gotten on in a while. We haven't discussed the last 5 yet. There is a ways to go before we get there. It seems more important to have a good group to make it to the merge and to take out the ponders. If your in I will let the others know and tell you the names.

Vengey's on board with the plan to out The Dude!

Merrid, on 12 April 2011 - 07:41 PM, said:

Gentlemen bastards...

Tiam sounds like a likely target. Let's not defend people in our alliance to hard. Don't want to give anything away.

Kalse and driss are good to keep around.

[Path-Shaper]

The Dude would have been an early favorite for me... he's very hard to lynch! I wonder if he'll pull something off.

[Path-Shaper]

We can already tell who the nucleus of this alliance is... D'rek and Vengey. They go with the Gentlemen Bastards for the alliance name. Nice touch!

Serc, on 12 April 2011 - 07:46 PM, said:

Oooh, that's gooooood. Gentlemen Bastards it is.

I'll pass to HP to go to Tiam. Doesn't seem like he is on so I don't think he'll have any discussion/counter-suggestions for this one.

And yeah, we don't want to defend each other too much, but as long as there aren't multiple of us defending someone at a time it shouldn't be too evident. Likewise we don't all want to criticize the same person on-thread. The usual mafia deflection rules, in other words.

And Mentalist goes for the Alliance!

Alkend, on 12 April 2011 - 07:46 PM, said:

yeah, i'm in . 5 is a good group.

[Path-Shaper]

Wow... 17 PMs in my inbox! People are chattering away. I hope we have people enjoying the game thus far.

Tapper may feel a little bad for getting so angry with me earlier. Sure there's been a "reveal" fest of sorts, but there's plenty of things that are yet to be known. For example, Tapper is his team's only leader. The longer he can control that information, the better.

Eloth, on 12 April 2011 - 08:37 PM, said:

Hehe, don't worry, it's early days and I'll play to my best ability until voted off, and then I'll do my duty in the Judge board. It is just that for now, there seems remarkably little to disagree on or to create infighting with, which is what regular mafia thrives on and what may come once the tribes merge.

As the mod, you know whether that perception is true or not better than I do

Just a bit disspirited by having a mass-reveal day 1 on our island, and I guess the other team, if they're smart, did the same - I was hoping there would be inside backstabbing as well as competition against the other side. That may come, however, or the Deceivers may be onto that already.

D'rek doesn't trust The Dude, but really there's not much to be said for it. The Follower is weak by design because their strength lies in others. Alkend just got lucky with the rolls and he's "rolling" with that so far.

Serc, on 12 April 2011 - 07:54 PM, said:

The alliance is shaping up nicely. Merrid seems more into it than HP, but I reckon it'll hold together for a while because right now there's not a lot to go on as far as voting people out. We can only guess as to what stats will be most important later. If everything was known, I'd actually be in a weak position since my maintaining morale ability is pretty selfish, not the greatest for the team. OTOH, Tiam's ability is even more selfish, he's like a finder you can't necessarily trust. He must have another modifer or ability though, looks like everyone has two. I'm guessing he's a deceiver, but it's hard to be sure and there's always the chance he was lying about no stats modifiers.

Tiamatha and Alkend will know they are both followers now.

Alkend, on 12 April 2011 - 07:55 PM, said:

what about Tiam?

Path-Shaper, on 12 April 2011 - 10:42 PM, said:

I didn't reveal it earlier because he hadn't officially joined with you. But since he has.

Tiamatha - Level 1 Follower

Some dishonesty is coming from The Dude and it may come back to haunt him a bit...

Tiamatha, on 12 April 2011 - 09:21 PM, said:

yeah I know... I add nothing to challenges, so I am trying to make it through this one and make myself sound better than I am.

Tiamatha, on 12 April 2011 - 09:35 PM, said:

Question- If I forge 2 alliances, and one of the alliance people is Barghast..can he still forge with 2 other people? or does my alliance forging with him count as one of his 2?

Path-Shaper, on 12 April 2011 - 10:44 PM, said:

You learn the following about your alliance-mate Alkend.

Alkend - Level 1 Follower

In response to your question, yes. Alliances "Forged" are different than alliances "Received." You may "forge" two but "receive" as many as you can.

Vengey doesn't trust Mentalist... both followers on this tribe are gaining suspicion.

Merrid, on 12 April 2011 - 08:22 PM, said:

Ideally I would like to be in a group with serc, kalse, driss, and ano. But I will take what I van get.

I think that alkend might be playing me, wouldn't be the first time.

Venge and Ment are conversing some here... this is part of the distrust from above. Mentalist may be The Dude's biggest hope of not going home, but we'll see if that holds. Will Ment want to keep 2 followers around? They aren't much use until Level 2+.

Merrid, on 12 April 2011 - 07:54 PM, said:

Excellent. We have we believe 2 e 2 I and you who I think is a S.

The group is me you serc, hp and ano.

The group name is the gentlemen bastards.

Right now me and serc are talking about sending tiam home.

Thoughts?

Alkend, on 12 April 2011 - 07:56 PM, said:

hmm, he's made an alliance with me a while ago. I'm trying to get some info out of him. i'll let you know in a bit.

Merrid, on 12 April 2011 - 07:59 PM, said:

Ahhh well if you would rather send some one else home nothing is set in stone.

Eliminating our group and tiam

Leaves

Barghast
Kalse
Driss

Alkend, on 12 April 2011 - 08:02 PM, said:

if D'riss is telling the truth about his ability, he's good to keep around as long as we can.
I'm a follower and I wasn't told anyhting about my stats.

Kalse has an intelligence boost.... hm

let's wait and see what Barghast sys in thread about himself.

[Path-Shaper]

HiddenOne wants to team up with the chatty Roldom. See, talking a lot can really get you a long way in this game...

Liosan, on 12 April 2011 - 08:26 PM, said:

I wish to forge an alliance w/ Karotallid

The Gentleman Bastard leaders discuss the plans.

Merrid, on 12 April 2011 - 07:56 PM, said:

Alkend is in. So we have 4 confirmed. I let him know who we are and our thoughts about tiam.

Merrid, on 12 April 2011 - 08:01 PM, said:

Alkend is in an alliance with tiam. I told him that nothing is set in stone. We shall see

Notice D'rek's immediate distrust here of Alkend... but this plays to Alkend's benefit. Being immune gives you incredible leverage.

Serc, on 12 April 2011 - 08:03 PM, said:

Oooh, he's multi-alliancing is he? Well I guess that makes sense for someone with day-1 immunity!

I don't mind switching if it's necessary, but Alkend should realize that if he's with the 5 of us,
a) he doesn't need anyone else as we have a definite majority for *at least* the duration of the Dureza tribe
there's a high likelihood of a number of these small conflicts developing as I'm sure everyone is going to use their make alliance ability to the utmost (except me, because I used it on you and HP )

Merrid, on 12 April 2011 - 08:09 PM, said:

He says that he is a follower. Which still doesn't make sense for as fast as he is able to get things done. Hmm...

Personally I think that tian is still the one to go for. But let's see what barghast gas to say.

Serc, on 12 April 2011 - 08:17 PM, said:

Merrid, on 12 April 2011 - 08:09 PM, said:

He says that he is a follower. Which still doesn't make sense for as fast as he is able to get things done. Hmm...

Well, it goes well with what he's been saying on-thread (that he has no stat modifiers). But it doesn't match well with the descriptions in the challenges thread (that he is the fastest swimmer to the island, quick at stuff, etc.) I'm suspicious that he's lying, but if he's telling the truth then he's not exactly a power player. On the other hand, it's good for you and me later-on if he's not a power player. It would make sense for him to be worried about us at the final 5 if he's just a follower...

Merrid, on 12 April 2011 - 08:09 PM, said:

Personally I think that tian is still the one to go for. But let's see what barghast gas to say.

What Barghast has to say?

Merrid, on 12 April 2011 - 08:26 PM, said:

Sorry that is what he said to me. I hate playing from my phone.

I kind of think he is playing us but??? If not then we might need him to change to strengh. As a group we don't want to lose back to back challenges.

Serc, on 12 April 2011 - 08:36 PM, said:

Ah, you mean Alk is saying we should go for Barghast instead, gotcha. Hmm, I could see it, but Bargh's +END is more useful to us than Tiam's finds which he probably won't tell to the rest of us (or that we can't trust). Likewise, Alk says he's a follower but won't say what his abilities are and how they might benefit us...

Maybe you can use the argument that Tiam is not helpful to the team to get out of Alk what his or Tiam's abilities are?

[Path-Shaper]

D'rek and Trull make conversation... with Trull making a prophetic(?) remark.

Hood, on 12 April 2011 - 08:58 PM, said:

All right I just got in. Still no word from Anomandaris. I suppose Tiam is the best choice right now. I'll keep you posted on Ano's involvement.

Oh, I like the shout out to Scott Lynch with the whole "gentleman bastards" (too bad most of them die off in the first book )

Serc, on 12 April 2011 - 09:06 PM, said:

Lol, yeah, but everyone dies in that book!

Alkend agreed to join, but he's allied with Tiam so we might be looking to switch. He's kind of suspicious though, says he's a Follower. Merrid is trying to get more info on Alk and Tiam out of him. With what Tiam's revealed of his abilities, though, I still think he's the best choice as he has no stat bonuses and his ability doesn't really help the rest of us. So we'll see...

Hood, on 12 April 2011 - 09:13 PM, said:

Yeah I agree completely. Just posted to put pressure on those who have not indicated that they can be useful to the team. Hopefully not too rash, but it may give us a slightly better perspective on who we should go after. I'm off for a bit; I'll check in later.

Bent offers a mea culpa for missing the challenge setup. He wants to partner with Tapper, the leader. That is a powerful combination.

Tulas Shorn, on 12 April 2011 - 09:28 PM, said:

shit, didnt expect the challenge to begin and end before I got back on today.

I want to forge an alliance with eloth.

Do I do so here, or would you prefer a new pm thread?

Anyway, to my confessional, I hope to gain an ally in eloth, see who his ally/allies are and for a circle of trust with he and them. then we discuss who to bring in our circle and I pick them. We get to the magical number of 5 and hold that number to the end, as we lose challenges we pick off the 4 who arent in the circle, merge, then the 5 of us (hopefully no less than that, lol) pick off the opposing team, and by then we try for immunity challenges to pick off each other.

Sound strategy in a perfect world, lol

Shin's not entirely sure how to approach the alliance aspect. Really, it's about familiarity and trust. You don't usually vote for people you can trust, especially early game when it's a big issue.

Shadow, on 12 April 2011 - 09:44 PM, said:

Howdy! Given the format of this game, at least at this point, I'm not sure exactly what we'll talk about privately, unless it's to give our opinions of other contestants.

I suppose in the regular TV survivor these alliances helped give contestants some insurance against being voted off.

Shin apologizes to me for using the wrong message format =)

Shadow, on 12 April 2011 - 09:45 PM, said:

Apologize - <Path-Shaper>

Path-Shaper, on 12 April 2011 - 10:59 PM, said:

<3 Shinrei