[Path-Shaper]

twelve is now forming an alliance of his own... to counter Serc? Dangerous when D'rek has the numbers... could require a swing vote. I wonder how it would play out?

Barghast, on 12 April 2011 - 09:57 PM, said:

Well this is the course of action that I'm taking with Serc. We are on the path to forming a 4 person alliance with the possibity of forming a 5 person alliance.

And here twelve is talking with the power player, D'rek.

Barghast, on 12 April 2011 - 08:09 PM, said:

Serc, You looking to forming any alliances yet? I would love to get an alliance of different power players and control the challenges and the game. I figure you picked the genius role which is one of the three categories used to improve our chances in the challenges. If you are interested let me know.

Thanks

Watch D'rek play it up!

Serc, on 12 April 2011 - 08:19 PM, said:

I am interested, but would like to know more. Is there already a bunch of people on-board or am I the first you're branching out to? I don't really want to be the lowest rung, voted out as soon as it's down to just us...

Barghast, on 12 April 2011 - 08:24 PM, said:

I have to go to a meeting. But I'll tell you more later. Approach 2 others. Prefereably someone who has challange abilitys and when I get back I'll approach another and that will get us 5 people who we are tight with and then we can contorl the votes. I'll talk more later.

Serc, on 12 April 2011 - 08:30 PM, said:

Okay, well I don't think we can make new alliances now that we're in the tribal council phase, unfortunately. I'd recommend we try to get a balanced team. Everyone so far has revealed either +INT or +END, with Tiam and Alkend revealing no stat modifiers. So maybe we should get two +INTs, two +ENDs and one of Alk or Tiam on-board?

Watch twelve now play into D'rek's hand by talking favorably about Merrid/Vengey!

Barghast, on 12 April 2011 - 08:49 PM, said:

It was thankfully a short meeting.

I'm okay with having 2 of the endurance and 2 intelligence members in our alliance. I would only go with someone from the other categorey if they can prove they can provide a benefit to the alliance or if they agree to switch to the challenger role to get strengh into our ablilities.

Do you have anyone you prefer to have in the alliance? I think Merrid would be a good choice for the other endurance player. Anomandaris seemed to be confused a lot with what was going on so far so I don't know if we should included him into our alliance. I liked Kalse so far. He is the other int. player right?

D'rek continues... I really think she's more in bed with Vengey than anyone else.

Serc, on 12 April 2011 - 09:09 PM, said:

Yeah, Kalse Ano and me were the INTs, and yeah Kalse sounds like a better choice than Ano. For the other END, I think D'riss might be a better choice than Merrid, as D'riss was pretty up-front about his boosting the team's morale, while Merrid just sort of tagged along to that with "Oh yeah I can do that too", which isn't so much suspicious as just that Merrid is more likely to be disguising himself than D'riss. For Alk vs Tiam, Alk hasn't said anything about himself, but Tiam's find ability might be useful for us to learn about the rest of the team and if we make it to the merged tribe about the Pensadors.

Barghast, on 12 April 2011 - 09:20 PM, said:

Looks like some stuff has come up on thread that I need to catch up on. I've wasted my morning at work plyaing so I'm trying to get some stuff done. I'm okay with D'riss and Kalse.

Who do you want to contact? I'll use my other forge alliance with one and you the other or do you want to do both of your actions?

And the lies from D'rek continue...

Serc, on 12 April 2011 - 09:39 PM, said:

I'll try D'riss, you try Kalse.

It looks like everyone gets 2 abilities, which for most of us one of them is a stat increase. I presume Challenger gets the +1 STR, Survivalist gets +1 END and I know Genius gets +1 INT. Are you a survivalist? What's your other ability?

My other genius ability is I'm immune to other players' abilities that would lower my morale or stats by one (but not events like losing morale from tribal council, etc.). Haven't seen any of these so far, but I'm guessing the Deceiver role might have one (or maybe the Challenger has some sort of intimidation thing?).

Barghast, on 12 April 2011 - 09:45 PM, said:

Yeah, I'm a survivalist as well. We get a +1 endurance bonus and an ability that give +1 moral called top chef or something like that.

Barghast, on 12 April 2011 - 09:47 PM, said:

I just looked it up. It is called Top Chef

Serc, on 12 April 2011 - 09:48 PM, said:

Top Chef? That's weird. PB must be smokin' it again...

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Barghast, on 12 April 2011 - 09:55 PM, said:

Yeah his little blurb describing the action mentions wild boar.

twelve's going to potentially give information away that D'rek will enjoy hearing.

Barghast, on 12 April 2011 - 09:59 PM, said:

Do you watch Big Brother? There was a strategy some of the players utilized last season that I think would work wonderfully here.

When we hear back from Kalse and D'riss I'll fill you in on it.

Barghast, on 12 April 2011 - 10:24 PM, said:

Have you been approached by anyone else yet?

Tiamatha has forged an alliance with me. I was at first against keeping him as an ally as he doesn't fit the "help win challenges" bit of our strategy but from our conversations I'm getting a pretty good vibe from him. Let me know what you think.

Right now I think we need to wait on PS to get back before our actions go through and we can start talking to Kalse and D'riss

I wonder if there's anything predictable about this game thus far...

Barghast, on 12 April 2011 - 10:27 PM, said:

This group of guys formed a core alliance. Then they all agreed that they each should form a side alliance with someone else that they play off to the rest of the group as their main allinace. When someone from the core alliance was in danger of going home they ended up sacrificing the side alliance so the core group would survive. It was an absolutely brilliant strategy but made for a very boring season as it was very predicatable as to who would go home.

It appears that twelve may be the key to saving Tiamatha...

Barghast, on 12 April 2011 - 10:32 PM, said:

Well you may have picked the right guy to select. I was very hesitant at first to forming an alliance with you but from our conversations I'm getting a much better vibe. Hopefully we can get a few more people on board and save your bacon. I have a bad feeling that you may be on the chopping block.

I've got to get some work done so I'll be off for a while.

Tiamatha, on 12 April 2011 - 10:51 PM, said:

Yeah, I might be boned if Serc makes a push. I haven't heard from Alkend yet either. getting a bit hairy! oh well, if you can get another person on board we could be ok. If not, bye bye me!! lol

I am headed out of the office. I should be on in a few hours or so.

Should I be flattered that twelve can't focus on work right now? I know I sure can't...

Barghast, on 12 April 2011 - 11:07 PM, said:

I can't focus on work today. I keep getting pulled back. PB is back so I'm going to start up a conversation with Kalse now and I'll let you know how it goes.

[Path-Shaper]

Here's some more discussion.

Mentalist is looking to throw The Dude under the bus to save himself...

Alkend, on 12 April 2011 - 11:34 PM, said:

well, Tia is a follower, same as me.

meaning, at this point he's not contributing much.

Roldom is tickled that everyone wants to buddy up to him.

Karatallid, on 12 April 2011 - 11:40 PM, said:

you did didnt you....


Yay i feel all popular everyone wants to be my ally!

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2011 - 12:00 AM, said:

=)

twelve realizes he may be a little too late here...

Barghast, on 12 April 2011 - 11:33 PM, said:

Are you part of a 5 person alliance already?

Barghast, on 12 April 2011 - 11:36 PM, said:

I have a feeling that I may have waited too late in trying to get something going.

twelve is either deliberately spreading misinformation to try and save Tiamatha or is completely wrong here... there's no such alliance among the listed three.

Barghast, on 12 April 2011 - 11:47 PM, said:

Right now I'm fairly sure that Kalse, HP and Alkend are part of an alliance. Tiamatha has been trying to get Alkend to commit and I've notice that the other two used to be on a lot but haven't been talking on thread very much. That would leave Merrid, D'riss, you if you are not playing me, Tia and Anomandaris left to form an alliance. Has D'riss gotten back with you yet?

Roldom just moved near the top of my board for strong players this season... he's already got all the alliances on his tribe and now he's figured out exactly how the players break down. He even figured Ruse will power up later and that a Survivalist is likely to go first... better them than him, eh?

Karatallid, on 12 April 2011 - 11:49 PM, said:

i never watched the show, but if we work closely together and can depend on each other i have no problem with voting for somebody else than you lol

though your safe from my vote for the time being anyway, you and TS are intelligence, so i think is eloth, lio is the only strength so he is safe and ruse is a follower, which is a piss poor ability now, but im hoping it turns into something great. that leaves four endurence players.

We just had (and won) an endurence challenge, i doubt the next challenge will be so heavy in endurence, im guessing its probably going to be inteligence and then strength

luckily we dont have to worry about voting yet but when we do its probably one of us survivalists that will get the boot

Karatallid, on 12 April 2011 - 11:38 PM, said:

maybe when you level up you can add bonuses to other people....

havent caught up on thread yet, will talk more then

And Bent tries to cozy up to the leader, Tapper.

Tulas Shorn, on 12 April 2011 - 11:53 PM, said:

Hello there

I have been watching your play, and I like your style. For posterity's sake, I hope you'll understand if I want to keep my real alt a secret, lots of outstanding grudges and what not. :0)

Anyway, here's the download

I am quite a smart lady and I think that by working together we can run this game.

I propose a solid alliance. You, me, and one other for each of us, to get us to the final 5. With 5 people in our group, we will have majority if we ever have to go to tribal council. Hopefully the 5 of us can run the table to the end and then break apart, every man (or woman) for themselves. let me know what you think and if you have any ideas on who to recruit to our cause.

Since I am the intelligent type, and you are something different (sorry couldn't pick up on your role in thread) I think we will want a mix of roles with us.

See you soon

[Path-Shaper]

twelve realizes he probably waited too long... being one of the many Survivalists doesn't help, either.

Barghast, on 13 April 2011 - 12:18 AM, said:

I have a feeling that I waited too long to form alliances. My strategy of having people approach me turned out to be the wrong one. I just saw Kalse on the thread after I sent him a PM and he not only ignored my shout out on thread but he hasn't responded to my PM. Not looking good alongside what I've picked up from my conversations with Tiamatha about Alkend. With HP basically silent aside from a few obligatory posts I have a feeling that I'm on the wrong end of the numbers. Now it looks like my only hope is to make it to the merge somehow. Gotta win some challenges now.

Trull states the obvious...

Hood, on 13 April 2011 - 12:23 AM, said:

I would wager that Tiam is allied with Bargy.

anisible is fine joining up with twelve

Kalse, on 13 April 2011 - 01:03 AM, said:

Hey. That sounds good. So I didn't think about it much before but I guess our alliance can grow more than I thought, i.e., if I ally with 1 more person and so do you, that's actually 4 of us...

I think creating a solid core group is a good idea, and definitely a good idea to have some sort of voting block at TC.

What are you thinking in regards to the vote tonight? Looks like Tiam doesn't have much in the way of team abilities and already he mentioned how he's going to be screwed when we merge...if he doesn't think he will survive anyway then I don't have problems voting for him. HP also performed poorly in the challenge and has an ability that a couple others have (+1 Morale).

I might post some of that in the thread, we'll see.

ansible may avoid the noose tonight, but he's going to have to do more than rely on chance alliances to avoid getting voted off.

Kalse, on 13 April 2011 - 01:08 AM, said:

Losing that challenge was brutal. I was sure we had it right until the end.

TC tonight is going to be interesting. There isn't much talk on the thread so I'm assuming everyone is chatting it up in their alliances. I realized that I might have to make the first move to forge an alliance early on, just to avoid getting voted, but that's semi-solved with my alliance with Barghast. There really isn't much for everyone to go on so it's either going to be whoever did poorly/wasn't around in the challenge, or whoever the allied players end up choosing for whatever reason.

Now that I have an alliance going I might specialize into this role a bit since I should be able to rely on my allies for the other stats.

Roldom thinks he should have gone leader with all of his current leadership. He's currently got a lot more than Eloth in that respect. He also is getting solid clarification on some rules.

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 12:18 AM, said:

i think i should of picked leader as my role...still the more i put myself forward with plans and such the less liklely i will be voted off for a while

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 01:18 AM, said:

2 people have made an allience with me, and i have made an allience with one person so i can still forge one more allience right?

Can i forge an allience with a member of another team?

at any point does what i say or who i vote for get shown to any other player who can still have an effect on the game? any player who goes to spoiler heaven can see it, but those players dont get to join the jury right?

as no one can see who i vote for, (apart from those in spoiler heaven) theres nothing stopping me from telling one of my allies that i wont vote for him at tribal council and that i promise to vote for him to win if im a jury and then not following through with it? theres no way he (or she ) will find out untill the games over?

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2011 - 01:34 AM, said:

1) Yes, you may still Forge one more alliance
2) No, you may only forge alliances with your own tribe
3) No, all votes are completely private. Only players in Spoiler Heaven will see them and they are, of course, out of the game. Jury members will not see who cast the votes against them.

D'rek continues to play twelve like a fiddle, but she'll have to be careful to honor both alliance groups or she may end up getting called out at tribal council.

Serc, on 13 April 2011 - 01:22 AM, said:

Well, maybe everyone was busy watching the canadian political debate like me?

D'riss hasn't replied yet but he hasn't posted in the thread either, so I don't think he's been on since.

Is Tiam part of this 5-person alliance you're suggesting or is he just with Alkend right now? It'd be worth trying to get them both on-board if possible. Be good to know if his on-thread stuff is true or complete bullshit, too. With that in mind, you might want to avoid mentioning I'm involved since I don't think he likes me and my scrutiny much right now... Then again I'm pretty sure he's a Deceiver so he should get used to not being liked...

I can use my other form alliance to try and get Merrid on-board if you like.

Shinrei seems fine to take a backseat role with Karat leading.

Shadow, on 13 April 2011 - 01:28 AM, said:

Well, I'll be happy to support you if it comes to that. You're being much more proactive on thread than some of the other survivalists, so at this point that's a plus (and why I chose you to form an alliance).

My timezone is going to make it tough for me it seems, since I'm opposite PB. I was asleep during both of the challenges, so I'll just have to make sure I always make my actions known asap on the tribal thread and contribute as much as possible when available.

Lizra tries to ration why he's a good player to keep around.

Ruse, on 13 April 2011 - 01:25 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 12 April 2011 - 11:53 PM, said:

i never watched the show, but if we work closely together and can depend on each other i have no problem with voting for somebody else than you lol

Same here. I think it helps to get to the end if you have one or two people you can really rely on and some people who don't see you as first choice.

Karatallid, on 12 April 2011 - 11:53 PM, said:

though your safe from my vote for the time being anyway, your are only follower, which is a piss poor ability now, but im hoping it turns into something great when you level it up, most likely you will be able to give huge bonuses to your allies
shadow and TS are intelligence, so i think is eloth, lio is the only strength so he is safe . that leaves four endurence players.

Yeah, I hope when it levels up it gets better. Right now its only confirming what everyone has already said on thread.
I think Eloth might be a Leader. He basically says that he is not a Genius.

Karatallid, on 12 April 2011 - 11:53 PM, said:

We just had (and won) an endurence challenge, i doubt the next challenge will be so heavy in endurence, im guessing its probably going to be inteligence and then strength

Well, I can't really help with anything of that.^^

Roldom continues to take the bull by the horns. He's already thinking ahead to the challenge and the vote!

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 01:35 AM, said:

if you havent chosen who to ally with yet it may be an idea to check on eloth (or you have and thats what your telling me lol) just to see, i have a funny feeling hes a deciever with that bloody riddle me this post of his.

were ahead right now, which means at least one of our players will be sitting out next round, as your ability right now has no bonus in the challenges i suggest that your the one who sits out, but after that challenge someone will go and we will have enough exp to level up. im hoping you will get some great support abilities so i dont want to vote you off, but because you will be the one who should do nothing the next challenge theres a chance your name might get thrown forward.

The way i see it, theres two ways you can not take part but avoid the vote, either i suggest it and you reluctantly agree, or you nobley stay out, sacrificing your chance to win anything extra (if there is anything extra) and then ill back you up and agree with you and then mention your likely to get a great supposrt ability when you lvl up

ITs probably to early to plan who to vote for should we lose, but so far my vote is on one of the survivalists as we have so many, and preferably on fener as he is the least active, so if you sit out and we have to go to the tribal council i will try to throw fener to the wolves (no one likes his alt anyway )

[Path-Shaper]

Roldom again... to Shin and to me.

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 01:43 AM, said:

and here was me thinking you allied with me for my good looks and charm

im the same with the challenges, but i think we are both on at the right time to make plans which is far more important than cheering on at the sidelines

now we have an idea of what everyone can do its way easier to prepare.

hopefully we will win the next challenge ( we have more players to chose from so we should be ok) and its probably way to early to start planning on who to vote out if we lose but as it stands my vote would go to Fener, and not just cos he has a butt ugly alt, but because he is the forth endurnce player and he seems to be the least active so far.

that could easily change between now and the next challenge though so im still pretty flexable

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 01:46 AM, said:

well as it stands ( as you can most likely see through my allience PMS ) Im trying to get everyone thinking about fener as a possible vote should we face the need. theres too many survivalists and hes the least active so it makes sense.

When its time to vote and every realises its best to get rid of a survivalist I want everybody to have a survivalist who isnt me ready in there minds

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2011 - 01:48 AM, said:

/nod I completely understand your strategy =)

Once the votes start to fall, it becomes very hard to change their momentum. We may see Trull start the domino chain.

Hood, on 13 April 2011 - 01:49 AM, said:

I may throw down my vote for Tiam. I'm going to sleep, and I don't really trust Tiam to be as useful as he claims to be. I would vote Alkend if I could, but no dice seeing as he won immunity.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 13 April 2011 - 01:50 AM

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Roldom is ready to strike up a convo with the Leader, Tapper.

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 01:58 AM, said:

forge allience Eloth

Look at him go... he's now allied with 4 people and together they comprise 5 of 6 roles. Only Genius is not rep'd.

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 01:59 AM, said:

if your wondering why im allying with Eloth

Im pretty sure eloth is either a leader or a deciever, with my currant alliences I have a strength an inteligence and a follower, with me bringing in survivalist, the best way to win challenges is to have as many options as possible, i prefer adaptability to specialisation.

and the best way to do that is have a core of team players with as many abilities as possible, so thats what im going to do. If i can link us five together we can sacrifice the other four to keep us in the game, hopefully we will all last till the end, and then if im at the centre of the web i can manipulate my way to the top

Vengey begins the votes for The Dude... alas, I fear his time is up...

Merrid, on 13 April 2011 - 02:17 AM, said:

Vote for Tiam


Sorry mate you it had to be someone.

Here Vengey is telling Ment that Tia's gotta go. I think The Dude could have been a little more honest and tried to forge some alliances earlier. As it stands, he's a little late and that's ultimately what's going to cost him.

Merrid, on 13 April 2011 - 02:12 AM, said:

Well then I think that he is the weakest link. So lets get rid of him and not lose the next challenge.

Do you know if being a follower gives any extra points on level 2.

Merrid, on 13 April 2011 - 02:18 AM, said:

With all of the bullshit that Tiam is talking on thread and him telling you he is a follower I think that he is our guy.

Roldom talks with hiddenone about future plans...

Liosan, on 13 April 2011 - 02:10 AM, said:

I'm not too familiar w/ the show either. I thought your plan was good, & showed a quick grasp of the mechanics at play. The group seemed to follow your lead, so I'm content to cooperate.

Is there any chance that Ruse is a Deceiver who wants to be seen as a follower, laying low until later in the game? Not sure what that role entails.

Agree the next challenge will prob. be Intelligence based. Keep yourself leading the group and you should be safe when the voting starts, unless one of the Old Hands is gunning for you, then it may be a challenge.

Is our Alliance supposed to be secret from the group?

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 02:20 AM, said:

i think so, but i have no issue with you telling others if you want to though it might be best to keep it quiet so we can help each other when it comes to voting

Its possible ruse is a deciever, but i personaly think that eloth might be the deciever considering his riddle of a description and his unwillingness to clarify.

nor does it say that having a deciever will be bad for the tribe, i think a deciever will only be a threat when the two tribes merge but thats pure speculation

we are safe for the votes now, but should we lose the next challenge it might be an idea to lay some ground work for who to vote for. so far, and this is in no way set in stone, my vote would go to fener. He is one of the four surviavlists, and out of those four he is the least active.

maybe he will become more active for the next challenge, but if he doesnt it may be an idea to take him out.

Ment and D'rek agree that The dude will go. They think he's a Deceiver but you can't fault them. He has said anything he could to avoid the vote tonight.

Serc, on 13 April 2011 - 02:13 AM, said:

Barghast connected with me wanting to build a big 5-man alliance. Too bad he's only half a day late... Well anyways I'm finding out what I can from him while ruining his alliance-making efforts. He says he's a survivalist (which makes 4 of you blokes, we shouldn't be lacking for morale anytime soon!). Tiam apparently connected with Barg and is trying to convince Alkend that Tiam and Alk should join with Barg (possibly instead of Alk being with us). Barg thinks I'm helpless so I've offered to try and forge alliances with kalse and d'riss for him, but I'll be reporting that they rejected his offer.

Merrid, on 13 April 2011 - 02:17 AM, said:

I know who Barghast is. I have for a while. Alt guessing is fun. We should keep him around for as long as possible. If anything happens to another one of our team then pull him in.

Alkend has gotten Tiam to say that he is a follower too which means that tiam is really bullshitting on the thread.

I say we vote off Tiam.

Serc, on 13 April 2011 - 02:28 AM, said:

Yeah, there's no way Tiam is a follower. Definitely Deceiver, IMO. You just voted - it was for Tiam?

also, lol here at nobody voting for The Dude or Shin... D'rek's smart, she knows who's hard to get rid of. Luckily one of her problems is about to be solved.

Serc, on 13 April 2011 - 02:31 AM, said:

I'm fine with keeping around Bargy for a long while, but if he's The Dude or Shin, we are voting him out long before the final! (Then again, the jury votes *for* the finalist, so maybe the rule still applies that no one will vote for The Dude or Shin..?)

D'rek here with Trull's son.

Serc, on 13 April 2011 - 02:02 AM, said:

Okay. You're right on Tiam and Barg, Barg just started a communication with me wanting to start a 5-man alliance, lol. He's only half a day late or so... so of course I'm stringing him along to learn as much as I can. He says he's a survivalist, so looks like we have 4 of you crazy survivalists (you, barg, d'riss and merrid)

Serc, on 13 April 2011 - 02:09 AM, said:

Ooooh, excellent. Barg wants me to try and forge two new alliances for his group... darn, I think D'riss and Kalse are going to reject his proposal...

Serc, on 13 April 2011 - 02:35 AM, said:

Merrid just voted, pretty sure it was for Tiam (he didn't say it directly, but that's who he wanted to go for). Tiam's claiming Follower through Alk, which is a load of bull (99% sure he's a Deceiver), so yeah I say we vote Tiam. You allright if I bring Bargy into the alliance if Ano or Alk don't turn out?

Lizra is also going to talk to Tapper, too. He now has 3 people talking *to* him and has both forges available for himself.

Ruse, on 13 April 2011 - 02:35 AM, said:

Shape alliance with Eloth

[Path-Shaper]

twelve is pulling out all the stops but he will likely come up one vote short. He will need to try and convince Ano (no communication web there), Serc (unlikely, seems to side with merrid), or Alkend (seems to want to vote off the other follower) to join him. Don't see it happening but props to the guy.

Barghast, on 13 April 2011 - 02:14 AM, said:

I was actually thinking of getting rid of anomandaris or HP. I've been talking with Tiam and as long as members of our tribe have an alliance with him he gets bonus ablilities. I'm not sure if he has 4 people aligned with him he just might be able to get a +4 bonus. Right now I think we have too many Survivalist so getting rid of HP would be good. Anomandaris I've noticed kept getting a lot of things messed up when we were trying to figure out a game plan for the challenge. That is why I think we should get rid of him.

Kalse, on 13 April 2011 - 02:22 AM, said:

About Tiam - ok, that works for now then. Serc made some good points on thread I thought, but it's good to know he's on our side. I don't think he would get the +4 bonus, I only meant that in terms of voting block power and communication.

I agree about HP - I think he's our best bet for now. Good point about Anomandaris, if he keeps messing up then we should definitely vote for him.

So what do you think for tonight's TC? HP?

Barghast, on 13 April 2011 - 02:49 AM, said:

HP works for me.

Barghast, on 13 April 2011 - 02:50 AM, said:

put a vote in on HP. Hopefully I'm not being lied to and you will survive tonight.

Barghast, on 13 April 2011 - 02:52 AM, said:

Kalse is finally talking to me but I have a feeling that he is playing me. He wanted to vote either you or HP out. So since I haven't talked to HP I say lets get him out and maybe we can save you.

Serc, on 13 April 2011 - 02:29 AM, said:

Tiam is bullshitting. There's no way that role he is claiming is a Follower, even if he does have those abilities. Alk might actually be a Follower, but Tiam is definitely lying.

Serc, on 13 April 2011 - 02:30 AM, said:

I'll try Merrid. Of HP or Ano, I'd go for Ano - he's a bit of a non-entity.

Barghast, on 13 April 2011 - 02:54 AM, said:

Well I couldn't get Kalse to vote for Ano. He will vote for HP though. I told Tiam to vote HP. If we can get Merrid or D'riss to vote for HP then we just might have an valid alliance. if not then we know we are on the wrong side of the numbers.

Roldom tries to talk to Tapper for their alliance.

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 03:05 AM, said:

hey there Eloth, just thought id make an allience to try and help keep us all organized and on the same page, especialy as we now have a bit of time to relax before the next challange

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 13 April 2011 - 03:19 AM

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Roldom also wants to plan for the merge already... whew.

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 03:10 AM, said:

when both tribes are merged, can tribe P use a code to vote people from tribe D out via a code

for example to keep it simple we decide before the two tribes merge that we will all vote for the same tribe D person and to choose which person we use alphabetical order of team D players. and then to make it a bit more flexiable we can choose either the person with the first name alphabetically and we say tops, or the person with the last name alphabeticaly and we work the word bottom into the conversation

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2011 - 03:20 AM, said:

You can do whatever you want when the tribes are merged, but first you have to get to that point.

And here he and Lizra talk strategy.

Ruse, on 13 April 2011 - 02:34 AM, said:

I haven't chosen my allies yet, and I agree with checking on eloth.

Quote

The way i see it, theres two ways you can not take part but avoid the vote, either i suggest it and you reluctantly agree, or you nobley stay out, sacrificing your chance to win anything extra (if there is anything extra) and then ill back you up and agree with you and then mention your likely to get a great supposrt ability when you lvl up

Either way is fine with me, depending on the situation.
I hope this time the challenge will not start when I go to bed. Then I can contribute more in the planning.


A vote on ferner is always good.
Some people might even vote for just because of the alt.

Ruse, on 13 April 2011 - 02:42 AM, said:

I have send a alliance request for eloth.

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 02:47 AM, said:

feners a good contingency just in case

The way i read the rules looks like there may be a time when we are still two seperate tribes but all of us have to vote on the tribal council.

If that happens we should definitly talk it out in our own tribe thread first and all pick just one of the other tribes players. If we act united we will out number them ( aslong as we keep winning challenges

Ruse, on 13 April 2011 - 02:55 AM, said:

I wonder if there will be two different tribe threads then. It sounds like there will be only one tribe then and it's possible that PS gives us a new thread for the united tribe and closes the other ones.
So we should bring this on thread before we get merged with the others.

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 03:04 AM, said:

i meant theres a chance that everyone will be forced into voting before the two tribes are merged, so theres a chance we can still talk seperatly on our individual tribe threads

when we do get merged however it may be an idea for our original tribe to stick together

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 03:11 AM, said:

Ruse, on 13 April 2011 - 02:42 AM, said:

I have send a alliance request for eloth.

awesome, when you find out do you mind sharing the info with me?

Ruse, on 13 April 2011 - 03:12 AM, said:

Yeah. Maybe we should try and built up an alliance net with some others. Everyone can make two requests and accept as many as he likes. That way, we could hold the tribe together as the players know that they have some backup there. With the new tribe they would need to establish it first.

And Lizra tries to strike up a convo with Tapper, too.

Ruse, on 13 April 2011 - 03:19 AM, said:

Hi there Eloth,

are you interested in an alliance?

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Stop fishing for info!

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 03:25 AM, said:

ruse has came to the idea of creating a group of allies to work together and create a voting block

basicaly the same idea i had while trying to draw in eloth. chances are the other side are doing somehing similar, and i doubt its only ruse and I on our tribe with the idea.

Im wondering whether or not to put all my cards on the table with ruse, tell him about all my alliences and then try to get all of us as one 5 man voting block, its a bit more open than id want, but it should allow us to cruise for a while, providing nobody backstabs

which will happen eventually

how many players need to be left before it goes to the jury?

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2011 - 03:28 AM, said:

You don't know that.

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ansible is in... they're going for HP. Will it be enough?

Kalse, on 13 April 2011 - 03:31 AM, said:

HP it is. I'm going to vote here pretty quick.

Well Roldom is having fun.

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 03:33 AM, said:

lame....


sorry for the countless messages by the way, im probably making more work for you then everyone else combined but congratulations on the game, im absolutly loving it so far.

speculation-- you get exp after everyone leaves, you get a max of 8 exp so maybe a max of 8 players leave before jury which means theres still 10 going into the new thread....

this game could potentially last for weeks you know, which is a good thing so far, but the longest game ive had of mafia b4 lasted about a week and a half and i cant see everyones zeal lasting forever lol

still kudos on the game, i cant seem to log off lol

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2011 - 03:41 AM, said:

I enjoy managing this, but yes, it's a lot of work. And there's 18 players... just cuz you're chatty doesn't mean you're the only one.

I suspect the fervor for the game will fade but hopefully later on as it gets closer, it will get exciting.

Lizra and Roldom want to form the core 5 and then go all the way. Similar to D'reks plan.

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 03:21 AM, said:

sounds like a plan, i also have allied with eloth, i wanted to get a resopnse from him, but so far he hasnt replied, most likely due to timezone

we should make a group of 5 core team members and use the ohers as a shield should our tribe get sent to tribal council.

when the groups get merged we then use this net to get rid of the tribal dervosa players, then any immunities we have earned through the game will come into play and after that it will be up to the jury to decide who wins

What do you think?

Ruse, on 13 April 2011 - 03:29 AM, said:

Sounds good.

do you have someone specific in mind you want in that alliance?
I think we should try and get Lio and someone with intelligence. Though I would still wait a little bit before offering an alliance.

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 03:37 AM, said:

lol way ahead of you my waterery friend

ill put all my cards on the table

I am currently allied with four people (though waiting on conformation from eloth )

you - follower

lio - strength

Shadow - inteligence

Eloth -

and myself bringing in the endurance

I think we should concentrate on bringing Lio and shadow into this group, and wait for what you find on Eloth

Lio and shadow added me, so there is a chance there added to someone else already

how do you think we should proceed on bringing them into the fold?

[Path-Shaper]

D'reks out... that's 2 for The Dude.

Serc, on 13 April 2011 - 03:44 AM, said:

Tiam, your reveal ain't helping you buddy. If those really are your abilities, you should have lied. If you lied, well then I don't want you around anyways. Frankly, the you-and-Alkend teaming is dangerous because you're both so unknown, and with possible extensions to Barghast and others? Nope, you must be gone. Tah!

Here's the first for HP/Trull's Son.

Barghast, on 13 April 2011 - 03:46 AM, said:

I don't have a great reason to vote you. We have a lot of survivalists and I think that Tiam's reveal should at least be tested before he's kicked.

D'rek's playing it up a bit for the crowd.

Serc, on 13 April 2011 - 03:47 AM, said:

HP is actually useful to our team, though! Tiam's just bullshitting and frankly I don't want to go to tribal council 5 times in a row just because Tiam ain't helping the team. If Kalse won't go for Ano, I think you should get him to go for Tiam instead (I presume you've connected to him and he's working with Ano?). Merrid already voted before he left, and since Tiam's the only one being scrutinized on-thread it's pretty unlikely he voted HP, but not impossible he voted Tiam. If we want to take the momentum on this, I think we should switch...

Barghast, on 13 April 2011 - 03:50 AM, said:

Shit. I wish that I read this before I voted. Well we'll see how things play out. I'm pretty sure that Tiamathia will be the one gone anyway.

D'rek doesn't realize there really is no CF. Part of the mystery is you never really get to know if he was lying.

Serc, on 13 April 2011 - 03:53 AM, said:

I'm very curious to see what we get from the CF in any case.

Ah... D'riss, I seem to forget about him. Where is his vote? It's impossible to know because... nobody has talked to him yet! Still, Serc may have the numbers.

Serc, on 13 April 2011 - 03:56 AM, said:

I voted for Tiam, Bargy voted for you HP. I tried to subtly shift him, but no avail. Looks like Tiam might be pushing for you to Alk and Bargy, but I don't think he has much reach beyond that. Barghast is trying to be subtle but it sounds like he reached out to Kalse, and Kalse is working with Ano, so that might be tricky if you're trying to recruit Ano to the Gentlemen Bastards. Haven't heard anything about connections to D'riss from anyone, oddly.

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Loki takes this opportunity to be quite silly.

Gamelon, on 13 April 2011 - 04:23 AM, said:

Warmth.


Fire is such an important commodity and I am proud that our tribe was able to take the skills each of us offer and use them to secure the best possible outcome. We were lucky that this challenge was heavily focused on endurance since we have a lot of survivalist types in our tribe. Though this could be cause for possible concern down the track as whilst being well set in endurance we are lacking in strength and other areas. Hopefully the distributing of EXP may help to level out the playing field.

I have to say, it’s nice not having to worry about Tribal Council; having immunity. I think I’m going to spend my night sitting by the fire. Maybe I’ll try my hand at crafting - perhaps turn all the feathers I’ve collected into some kind of shamans shawl I can present to Jeff the next time I see him. Haha!

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2011 - 04:28 AM, said:

lol, enjoy the evening, Loki.

Thoughts on the game so far?

Gamelon, on 13 April 2011 - 04:35 AM, said:

Not what I expected...I guess I should have realised from the intro that this was much more a D&D style game and I'm not a real fan of those but I do like to try new things and so far I'm enjoying it....even if I am just winging most of it

I am noticing that the time limits seem to be harming peoples abilities to participate - the timezone issues and all. I think in future games it might be best to extend the 12 hours out to 18 or 24 hours. You wouldn't want to extend it much more then that as the game is too involved and would end up going for weeks.


I can tell you put a lot of time and effort into this and I really hope it works out as well as you hope it will.

You do good work!

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2011 - 04:37 AM, said:

Well we'll see how much you enjoy it if you have to go to Tribal council =)

Gamelon, on 13 April 2011 - 04:45 AM, said:

True, but at least I'll be voted out by my tribesmen and not the roll of a die. I never did like Oponn......

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Trull's son isn't worried in the least.

Hood, on 13 April 2011 - 04:47 AM, said:

I haven't heard from ano yet, so you might be right on. I'm fine if Bargy comes along, even if he's voting for me. I'm going to vote for Tiam.

The vote's in on Tiam... and it's 3 to 2.

Hood, on 13 April 2011 - 04:49 AM, said:

vote Tiamatha

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Hood, on 13 April 2011 - 04:54 AM, said:

Something for now. Serc is a heavy hitter in our tribe. He's playing both sides of some vague battle line within the tribe, and doing a great job from what I can tell. . This early in the game I'm more than happy to keep my head down and let Serc do the heavy lifting. I just hope it doesn't come back to bite me in the ass. I was hoping to set up a double alliance thing within the tribe, but I'd like to wait on Ano, who hasn't yet read my alliance proposal. Maybe a timezone difference?

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2011 - 04:58 AM, said:

Laying low is a strategy... but time zones could be the issue with Ano, hard to say.

The Dude returns...

Tiamatha, on 13 April 2011 - 04:57 AM, said:

ok, i'llvote HP

sucks cause I dont have much time to post tomorrow

Work is really busy. Havent heard from Alkend,think he is gonna be on me:)

[Path-Shaper]

Mentalist doesn't trust Tiamatha... the lies are catching up to The Dude. He says this to Vengey.

Alkend, on 13 April 2011 - 05:05 AM, said:

he's not TELLING me he's a follower--our ability is to find out everything about allies.

I dunno about bonuses on further levels pretty sure that's BS.

i'd prefer to vote out the deveiver or w/e the person who looks for his own angle is, but unless we can find one, Tiam seems like a good choice.

Ment's putting the nail in the coffin, almost.

Alkend, on 13 April 2011 - 05:07 AM, said:

yawn, I was taking a nap. gotta be up most of the the night cramming.

since I will be shutting off internet for that time.

vote Tiam.

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2011 - 05:11 AM, said:

Make sure you announce that you Voted on the thread.

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2011 - 05:12 AM, said:

Also, what's your reasoning behind your vote? Any "last words" you want to give Tiamatha in case he is voted off?

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The window is closing on The Dude rapidly. Now Tattersail is here and ready to take out The Dude. With Tattersail's vote, that's 5 and nothing can save him. We'll still need Tiamatha and Anomandaris to vote to move on, though.

D, on 13 April 2011 - 05:27 AM, said:

i'm going to vote tiam. I'm on my phone its 6am here i'l vote in an hour :-)

Ment is playing it logically in his justification.

Alkend, on 13 April 2011 - 06:01 AM, said:

well, objectively, an alliance of followers wouldn't work. there's a lot of buzz to take him out, and I was made a better offer.

realistically, it would have been him or me, the way our tribe focused on "usefullness". it just happened that I was immune this time.

Shin is happy to be picked to be in an alliance. Karat explains why it was done.

Shadow, on 13 April 2011 - 06:01 AM, said:

Oooh, can I have "in" to that 5?

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 06:06 AM, said:

we need someone with an intelligence bonus and we chose you to join the group

have you made an allience with anyone else yet? we are still in the very early stages of forming.so we need to get some alliences forged to create good lines of communication between the five of us, chances are most of us will only be able to speak to 3 or 4 but the more the better,

If your already allied with sombody else theres a good chance they have been selected to join us, if not we will discuss the advantage of you either quiting that allience and joing the main group or keeping you with that person. it all depends if you asked them or if they asked you

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 06:14 AM, said:

remember to keep this 5 core players a secret apart from with the names I will give you when we are more properly formed

as for now i havent yet talked it out with the others but i suggest that us core players try to specilise in our roles, while we get the 4 Team P players to generlise

a team of 5 that stick together should be able to cruise into the jury stage, we just have to remember to be loyal.

theres other people who are going to try and form similar groups, and we face being voted off if we dont trust each other and band together. Once we get to the jury stage it would be suicidal for us to betray each other as it would leed to a judge with a grudge against the rest of us, telling everyone else about our allience, and influencing the other jury members against us.

Tats gonna have a hard time lasting a while if she's spending the entire game in helper-mode.

Path-Shaper, on 13 April 2011 - 06:19 AM, said:

You can't spend any EXP until you have at least 2 EXP and you currently have 0. You can decide at any time after you have the EXP to spend it. You can talk to your team about your decisions, but ultimately it's an individual choice, not theirs.

She votes Tiamatha.

D, on 13 April 2011 - 06:11 AM, said:

Vote Tiam -

I just do not think he will help towards tasks at this stage in the game, +2 intel pushed it too far. The set up for the first challenge gave me a good indication of what type of players are on the other team. I think his ability only helps him at a later stage not the team as a whole early on.

Sorry Tiam

Don't know where the Kalse vote post is in the log, but he definitely voted HP... deleted already from my PMs. Ah well.

Current Tally is
Tiamatha (5): Merrid, Serc, Hood's Path, Alkend, D'riss
Hood's Path (2): Barghast, Kalse

Waiting On: Tiamatha, Anomandaris

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DKT finally votes for Tiamatha.

Anomandaris, on 13 April 2011 - 07:43 AM, said:

Fuck it

Vote TIAM

He's also looking to form up with D'rek.

Anomandaris, on 13 April 2011 - 07:51 AM, said:

i cant for the fucking life of me find the section that explains alliances and what to say to form them...too many fucking threads and private threads!!


i would like to form an alliance with SERC please!



thats if i wasnt voted out

Trull's justification for voting out Tiamatha... and of course, it's always better to vote than BE voted.

Hood, on 13 April 2011 - 01:20 PM, said:

A little late now, but mainly because of the uncertainty. uncertain as to whether or not Tiam is telling the truth, and whether or not his/her abilities will help the group (and more importantly, will it help me?).

[Path-Shaper]

Here come the litany of posts!

Top Chef requests from Pensador and Dureza.

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 06:54 AM, said:

Activate top chef for after tribal council

Driss said:

Activate the feeding frenzy

Gamelon, on 13 April 2011 - 07:15 AM, said:

I would like to activate my Top Chef ability to increase our tribes morale in the hopes that it will ensure that the dice roll in our favour.

Okaros, on 13 April 2011 - 05:10 PM, said:

Because overstacking the morale bonuses cannot hurt

Tapper seems fine allying with Lizra.

Eloth, on 13 April 2011 - 07:16 AM, said:

Hi Ruse,

That depends on what you consider an alliance
But I'd not be against an attempt to keep everyone on the same level and outlook, as long as we win challenges against the other team, we don't have to eliminate any single one of us and thus, we can all be friendly friends instead of dastardly backstabbers.

Dibs is talking with Shin here...

Fener, on 13 April 2011 - 07:14 AM, said:

i am up for that in future if you are, as you can tell from the challenge i am indeed a survivalist with a +1 endurance bonus.

I think one of our players (tulas) was a deceiver by how the challenge panned out and the talk in thread. may be worth starting na alliance with them to find out off thread and see what info i can gleam. i will keep you informed.

Is he breaking the alliance with Shin now? I think it's about a potential cancelled alliance with Tulas.

Fener, on 13 April 2011 - 07:16 AM, said:

sorry i had only glanced through the thread, tulas hadnt even shown up someone had guessed their abilities not be told. he could be anything.

cancelling my alliance. heres what happens when you got no time to play!!!

Fener, on 13 April 2011 - 07:17 AM, said:

scratch that sorry

forge alliance with eloth please

Fener, on 13 April 2011 - 07:22 AM, said:

also can i

action :top chef
reason only ability so may as well


at the start of every cycle until i gain another ability please.

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Vengey is talking about the role composition to Ment here.

Merrid, on 13 April 2011 - 11:44 AM, said:

Ok. From the challenge I don't know if we have a deciever. I am surprised that nobody picked Challenger.

Vengey's using Top Chef, too.

Merrid, on 13 April 2011 - 11:47 AM, said:

Increase my/town moral

Tapper's pleased with his popularity. Roldom tries to bring Tapper into the fold for the alliance.

Eloth, on 13 April 2011 - 07:15 AM, said:

Coolio. I'm popular, apparently
I think it is indeed best if we all pool resources and continue to win against the other team for as long as possible.

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 12:12 PM, said:

its good to run with the popular kids lol

speaking of which,

Me and some of my other allies are creating a group of 5 core members in our tribe, these 5 will stick together right untill the end and then it will be up to the jury to decide.

a voting block of 5 should easily be enough to control who stays and who goes through out the game aslong as we all behave each other

do you want to join us? who are you already allied with?

Shin comes clean with Roldom... this will get him a long way in the game. Also, Roldom is smartly getting his alliance to pair up with each other. This controls the reach of their alliances since they are limited to 2 forged, and it also makes the web very tight, hard to break.

Shadow, on 13 April 2011 - 09:11 AM, said:

All right, I'll be straightforward because your logic seems sound. Plus I like you better. I allied with Fener, and since he's "butt ugly" I'm guessing a that a break alliance is best. I'll be open to suggestions on who to forge an alliance with after.

He already mentioned in our conversation that he will probably break alliance with me just because he doesn't have much time to play. Seems like Fener will be a safe vote-off if it comes to that, since he's not fully committed to the game anyways.

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 12:03 PM, said:

once the tribes merge it wont be long till its a jury decision, we should be able to keep most, if not all of the core 5 we choose.

Ive tried to organise it so that we have at least one of each of the different talents available

so far the group im trying to create is

myself,(endurance) lio (strength), shadow(intelligence), ruse(follower) and eloth who is either a leader or a deciever (easier to keep an eye on him if hes with us)

ruse yourself and lio are all definitly up for the core 5, i havent asked eloth yet.

Shadow, on 13 April 2011 - 12:28 PM, said:

So I could ally with Eloth to make that connection.

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 12:31 PM, said:

or lio or ruse, id suggest lio personaly

me and ruse are already linked to eloth and he still has his to choose, hopefully he will choose you and lio

[Path-Shaper]

More communication with Tulas and Eloth. Will be interesting to see if Tapper wants to keep Bent around or not, since Bent's outside the core 5.

Eloth, on 13 April 2011 - 07:18 AM, said:

I'd not be opposed to that - survival is of course the prime motive here . FYI, I have already been approached by Ruse (who wants to offer alliance without telling me exactly in what way), and Karatallid, who wants to use the PMs to forge unity in the group.

Tulas Shorn, on 13 April 2011 - 01:26 PM, said:

Popular bloke then, aren't you?

Very well, I haven't been approached by anyone, yet.

How does Kara plan on using the pms?

And if its effective, I wouldn't be opposed to using him for a third.

I have no read on Ruse, but since you have contact with him I'll leave that up to your judgement.

HiddenOne is a little altruistic here... could cost him later.

Liosan, on 13 April 2011 - 11:37 AM, said:

My second slot is open as of yet. Eloth seemed a bit wierd to me as well, will watch closely

Once the tribes merge, it will be every man for himself in a way, if we can hold a group together, it will ensure that at least a member will win (I hope)

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 11:59 AM, said:

once the tribes merge it wont be long till its a jury decision, we should be able to keep most, if not all of the core 5 we choose.

Ive tried to organise it so that we have at least one of each of the different talents available

so far the group im trying to create is

myself,(endurance) you(strength), shadow(intelligence), ruse(follower) and eloth who is either a leader or a deciever (easier to keep an eye on him if hes with us)

ruse yourself and shadow are all definitly up for the core 5, i havent asked eloth yet.

as a follower, one of ruses abilities is to check up on people who accept his alliences, so we have him asking eloth for an allience so he can check what eloths story is. once we get some info we can decide if we want him or not

Liosan, on 13 April 2011 - 12:05 PM, said:

Nice move -

do you think I should save my other slot for when the tribes combine or use it now?

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 12:09 PM, said:

no, it would be pointless currently connected to all 5 (myself included( and it would mean everyone has to talk through me and id be too tempted to cheat lol

if you allie with someone else in the group, say ruse, and i get ruse to use his extra on shadow, and shadow on you, eloth has me and ruse linked to him, + his own 2 links,it helps keep everyone talking to each other, which hopefully will help keep the trust lol

Liosan, on 13 April 2011 - 01:27 PM, said:

I thought we could only have 2 allies at once

Karatallid, on 13 April 2011 - 01:30 PM, said:

no, you can only forge alliences twice, but other people can forge one with you and shadow forged with me, i forged with ruse and eloth

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