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Here we go!

Mental spills the beans to Vengey.

Merrid, on 14 April 2011 - 02:40 AM, said:

Oh and Kalse is trying to get me to go in an alliance. But he want's to target you... I told him that I was in an alliance with you.

ansible is playing it very well with D'rek. He knows he's on the outs, and he just has to make himself seem like a good alternative when the next vote happens.

Kalse, on 14 April 2011 - 02:38 AM, said:

Well, fair enough. I think you're right in that we will both be key challenge players for Dureza. That said, I understand that the alliance comes first. Eventually, though, there will be weak members of your alliance, who, like you said, the tribe doesn't really need. At that point I hope you would consider bringing me into the fold. Obviously it's important to be loyal to your allies, but if we're showing up at Tribal Council every night, something is wrong. We still have to win challenges, and hopefully I can contribute to that enough to stay in the game.

So sure, put in a good word for me and I'll do my best to stay valuable. Until then, like you said, we're in this together.

With any luck, we won't end up at Tribal Council at all.

I love how D'rek's still pretending to not be a Leader. It helps that she's not directly allied with Alkend and they voted off Tiamatha!

Serc, on 14 April 2011 - 02:51 AM, said:

Yes well, that would be ideal. Any plans for what you'll do with your 2 EXP? I'm thinking of branching to Leader - no one's claimed that one and it seems like it could be the type to benefit the tribe well.

Kalse, on 14 April 2011 - 03:25 AM, said:

Honestly, I've been considering going Leader for awhile, but I didn't plan to do it until the next level, probably. I imagine I'll put this 2 EXP into Level 2 first. I'd be interested to see how Leader meshes with Genius, though. I don't think any of the other roles would go very well with INT - do you?

Serc, on 14 April 2011 - 06:15 AM, said:

Deceiver probably does. I remain skeptical that Tiam was a Follower, no matter what Alkend says. The abilties Tiam was listing sounded pretty Deceiver-like to me. Maybe he was lying, but I would've expected The Dude to make up better abilties to fake-reveal then that!

Tapper seems OK with allying up with the core group in Pensador.

Eloth, on 14 April 2011 - 06:22 AM, said:

I would not be against that

Tapper discusses it more with Roldom.

Eloth, on 14 April 2011 - 06:20 AM, said:

Ruse, you and Tulas.


Ruse proposed the exact same thing in nearly the exact same wording, so unless you and he are partners, more people have this idea


have to run now, more tonight my time!

And Roldom is *very* open with Tapper about Shadow/Shinrei. This is going to be *very* interesting to see how Shadow's lies catch up to him. Picking Survivalist probably wasn't the best choice after he saw he had a +INT bonus!

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 06:42 AM, said:

we are partners, lol i hope your willing to join with us

we have 5 players ( you, me, ruse, liosan and shadow) which we are making into a allied core, with 5 loyal players we can cruise to the jury stage, when we are there its up to the jury to decide not us 5, so we gain nothing by being sneaky lol We have tried to get five players with different abilities.

so far we have four out of the five in agreement, your the only player we need confimation from.

how ever there is a slight development that is causing us trouble.
Sadly we have reason the believe one of the four confirmed players, Shadow has been lying. the other three of us are currantly discussing what are best options are. Shadow has been pretending to be a genius. according to ruse, shadow is a survivalist like me, most likely he lied to make it look like he was more valuable.

It is good that you are talking to TS as he is likely the person we going to invite into our cadre should we decide it is in our best interests to inform the tribe at large about this liars behaviour and vote them out, as he has risked the entire tribes chances, not just our groups. In this latest challenge he was originaly put forward as the person to attempt the intelligence part of the challenge.

luckily TS got here on time to change it.

off course there is the possibility that ruse is the one lying, and that shadow really is a genius, but personaly i believe ruse.

so far we havent mentioned to shadow that we have caught him on his lie, but if you have time could you please talk to TS and see if we could get him into our cadre? me lio and ruse are all linked with each other and shadow, if one of us breaks allience with shadow, it might alert him that something is up.

Sorry for the essay lol

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 07:07 AM, said:

well we lost the challenge anyway which sucks

Ive tole shadow we are going to vote for fener, but personally i think we should get rid of shadow and bring the real genius TS into the group

looking at the thread, the way TS seemed to know more about being a genius, and the fact that shadow didnt say what he was untill after a few of us survivalists had already spoken...

he lied, not that it mattered, we still lost the challenge. But we cant have a player pretendind to be something else, it risks all our chances, so i suggest we publicly go for fener, but the rest of the allience goes for shadow so we can bring in TS

What do you think?

as the only one of us with a link to TS could you inform him? and try to get him to vote with us? sorry to throw all this at you at once

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The core two, Ruse/Lizra and Karatallid/Roldom discuss Shadow/Shinrei.

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 02:49 AM, said:

Interesting, I have assumed that Shadow is a Genius, but PS just told me he is a survivalist.

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 02:53 AM, said:

a survivalist with an intelligence bonus? or has he been lying about that?

maybe bringing in shadow was a mistake....

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 03:04 AM, said:

I think he has been lying. I checked on thread and his first post was after it was pointed out how many suvivalists we had.

I think we should keep a close eye on him and see how he develops his EXP. If he keeps lying we can vote him off.

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 03:08 AM, said:

we cant just kick him out of the allience now he knows it exists, he would try to form a block with the others

we were going to get rid of fener as a survivalist because we have so many...maybe we should just get rid of shadow and then replace him with TS

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 03:12 AM, said:

if he is the same as the rest of us survivalists, then he could of cost us that challenge, if not for TS getting here when he did and changing our plan we would of lost the the intelligence round

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 03:14 AM, said:

I meant at tribal council, so yeahs, get rid off him for good.

TS seems to be a good alternative. The more various our skills the better.

If we want to vote out Shadow at TC we don't have absolute majority from the start but still for 4 out of 9 assuming Eloth joins in and we can convince him and Lio to vote for Shadow.

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 03:17 AM, said:

We were lucky that TS came on. I'm going to have a look at the last challenge. Was there anything significant for intelligence where we put Shadow?

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 03:22 AM, said:

There is nothing really indicating in the last challenge to see if Shadow had lied.

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 03:23 AM, said:

I think if we announce that shadow has lied, compare his role pm to TS role pm for proof and tell everyone that shadows lie nearly cost us the win, it should be easy to get rid of him

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 03:26 AM, said:

where he was originaly placed for the second challenge is a major intelligence test

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 03:30 AM, said:

that should work, but I am likely not around when this challenge ends. So hope we make it through this one too. Otherwise I will reveal my ability as soon as I wake up in the morning.

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continued from above

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 03:36 AM, said:

hopefully we will win, in which case its best to keep quiet about it now and make sure lio and eloth are with us, hopefully one of us will be able to contact TS without breaking up with shadow, that was we can get TS with us before we axe Shadow

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 03:40 AM, said:

Probaly Eloth will have free alliances. Do you know about Lio?

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 04:05 AM, said:

hes allied with me and you, it may be up to eloth....

have you recieved that message from PS yet?

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 04:25 AM, said:

Not about Lio.

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 07:09 AM, said:

well we lost the challenge anyway which sucks

Ive tole shadow we are going to vote for fener, but personally i think we should get rid of shadow and bring the real genius TS into the group

looking at the thread, the way TS seemed to know more about being a genius, and the fact that shadow didnt say what he was untill after a few of us survivalists had already spoken...

he lied, not that it mattered, we still lost the challenge. But we cant have a player pretendind to be something else, it risks all our chances, so i suggest we publicly go for fener, but the rest of the allience goes for shadow so we can bring in TS

What do you think?

by the way eloth is linked with TS and im trying to get eloth to bring TS into the group

Very interesting that he's breaking his tight web here! I am surprised they don't seem to want to keep Shadow around longer but trust is a pretty big issue in this game. If The Dude and Shinrei are the first two voted off I think collective jaws will hit the floor.

Shin doesn't even know what's going on.

Shadow, on 14 April 2011 - 11:22 AM, said:

Hey. got the message from Kara that we lost the challenge (I haven't checked the thread yet). He's suggesting putting Fener on the block, so that's fine with me.

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 06:58 AM, said:

right, we lost the challenge, i suggest we all vote fener

Shadow, on 14 April 2011 - 11:21 AM, said:

Sure, and then I'll add Lio.

Shadow, on 14 April 2011 - 11:23 AM, said:

Do you think PB has a hidden penalty for losing an alliance person to tribal counsel? I'm debating whether I should break alliance, or just let the vote take its course.

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Liosan, on 14 April 2011 - 01:35 AM, said:

OK, don't I have to wait until next Tribal Council or can I do it at any time? We'll be one big family ha

Liosan, on 14 April 2011 - 02:15 AM, said:

PM sent to P-S to ally w/ Ruse

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 02:18 AM, said:

great, as soon as we get some answers from eloth we will be sitting pretty

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 02:56 AM, said:

or maybe not, news from ruse

shadow isnt a genius. apparently he is a survivalist like me and everyone else

which means theres a chance he was lying about his intelligence bonus to try and make himself look more valuable. considering how many survivalists there are it makes sense

which means we might need to replace shadow with TS...what do you think?

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 04:02 AM, said:

because of the fact shadow has lied, and would of caused us to lose the second challenge (admitidly we may still lose it anyway) we are thinking we should have him removed and replaced with TS

what do you think?

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 07:07 AM, said:

well we lost the challenge anyway which sucks

Ive tole shadow we are going to vote for fener, but personally i think we should get rid of shadow and bring the real genius TS into the group

looking at the thread, the way TS seemed to know more about being a genius, and the fact that shadow didnt say what he was untill after a few of us survivalists had already spoken...

he lied, not that it mattered, we still lost the challenge. But we cant have a player pretendind to be something else, it risks all our chances, so i suggest we publicly go for fener, but the rest of the allience goes for shadow so we can bring in TS

What do you think?

Liosan, on 14 April 2011 - 11:29 AM, said:

Lying to the team is unacceptable. Shadow will be voted. Do we need a simple majority to do it? 5 votes, right?

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HiddenOne and Lizra have a paper-thin alliance here, heh. Will be interesting to see how Karat holds them together.

Liosan, on 14 April 2011 - 02:35 AM, said:

hey, new ally - got any secrets to divulge?

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 02:42 AM, said:

Not really. How about you?

Liosan, on 14 April 2011 - 11:30 AM, said:

no, just fishing, I guess - seems we lost the challenge

DKT is happy he unwittingly voted with the tribe.

Anomandaris, on 14 April 2011 - 12:09 PM, said:

cool man...ive formed no other alliances besides with HP

And I actually voted for Tiam/The Dude yesterday too... without even knowing the rest of the "Gentleman" did.

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Tapper's on the money here... but will he ally with Bent, who he would have voted for yesterday?

Eloth, on 14 April 2011 - 06:22 AM, said:

Apparantly, yeah, I did something right.
My pet theory right now is Ruse and Kara are partners also. They approached me with an alliance offer for 5 to control the voting here, and their wording was nearly the same.

Tulas Shorn, on 14 April 2011 - 01:07 PM, said:

wow, ok so would you mind if I got in on that? If so, we are 4, but who do we pick as a 5th?

I will send a pm to Kara and try to dig for info, I wont announce to them that we are in an alliance until I hear back from you.

Vengey wants to level up.

Merrid, on 14 April 2011 - 11:47 AM, said:

lets see what level two of this bitch looks like...

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I explain the leveling up process to DKT.

Anomandaris, on 14 April 2011 - 12:11 PM, said:

how does this EXP shit work now?

Path-Shaper, on 14 April 2011 - 02:16 PM, said:

Basically, you just tell me what you want to do. Do you want to spend EXP to Level up to a Level 2 Deceiver, or do you want to spend that EXP to unlock a new role and be a Level 1 Deceiver / Level 1 ????.

It's up to you, really. If you progress down the Deceiver path, you will unlock more potent abilities, but if you unlock other paths you will generally "get" more abilities.

Interesting that dibs is only now trying to make things happen.

Fener, on 14 April 2011 - 07:09 AM, said:

dont mean cancelling this alliance - meant the one iw as going to forge with tulas to get info. tried making one with eloth but still waiting. couldnt get on forum at all last night, you have any trouble?

Shadow, on 14 April 2011 - 11:20 AM, said:

I had some trouble getting ont he forum, yeah.

I did think you were going to cancel this alliance. My bad. I haven't had the chance to check anything yet, so I don't know if we got that second challenge yet or not.

Fener, on 14 April 2011 - 02:18 PM, said:

we lost - not sure who to push for. think eloth or ruse myself.

am pushing to save you, kara, okaros and lio.

Bent trying to cozy up to Karatallid, the mastermind.

Tulas Shorn, on 14 April 2011 - 01:08 PM, said:

OK so I need to work now

Forge alliance with Kara


Lets see what the game controller has to say....

Tulas Shorn, on 14 April 2011 - 03:18 PM, said:

Hello, just feeling around, trying to figure out who might make a good team with me. I had an idea about getting a couple of us together and form a joint alliance until the end, let me know what you think and we'll work something out.

Also, if you already have an alliance that you want to pull me in with, I would need to know either who not to vote for, or who you are going to be voting for.

I will wait to hear back from you before getting back in thread.

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Now that twelve has the HII, he has some serious power in his pocket. He's going to try to use that to his advantage. If he can leverage the idol, it would really be strong.

Barghast, on 14 April 2011 - 02:40 PM, said:

Yes. Yes I know I must have hit the perfect role of the die. I was going to give up looking for the idol after this attempt. I was fully expecting to get the moral hit and then possibly causing my team to lose yet another challenge when I need to focus on winning them instead. It was bascially a desperation move on my part. Looks like it worked out okay though.

I'm going to try an make Merrid look bad though for his seemingly poor performances in the last two challenges. I'm going to blame his poor performance on bad moral for hunting for the HII. If I can't get an in on the main alliance then I want to create friction within it.

Happy Dance!!!!

Happy Dance!!!!

Pensador tribe is considerably less organized outside of the main group, thus far... we could see some scattered votes. Here's the first one from ansible for Lizra.

Gamelon, on 14 April 2011 - 02:41 PM, said:

I have decided to vote off Ruse for three reasons -

1) I had to choose somebody
2) Ruse's contribution to the tribe in regards to conversations/discussions has been minimal (even before the server issues)

And 3), Ruse has stated that he doesn't ' have anything really useful for camp or challenges, but I have some nice stuff for alliances.' By his own admission he is not an assest to the tribe in regards to challenges and by default is of no use to me.

For these reasons I vote for Ruse to leave the island.

Ruse: Gamelon

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twelve wants to get really close with Kalse... really close.

Barghast, on 14 April 2011 - 06:26 AM, said:

So I have a question for you. Do you trust me? I've been getting strung along by more than one person this whole game and I need to know that you and I are a solid pair. I want you and I to try and go as far as we can. I know that we are on the outside of the numbers looking in but I really need to know if you are the one person that will be straight up with me.

Right now I feel that I can trust you. I haven't noticed or uncovered anything that is telling me otherwise but I'm going to flat out ask you. Who have you all forged alliances with and who has forged alliances with you?

I forged alliances with you and Serc. Tiamantha was the one person that forged an alliance with me. These are all of the people that I've talked to outside of the thread. Serc was hiding things from me and when I confronted him he came clean about my place in the pecking order.It's not great but if I can believe him it will keep me alive for a tribal or two. So that means I don't trust him 100% but since he did come clean and actually provided some information I think that he may be an ally for us in the future if he is thinking of making a move. Though I think he is part of a core alliance of HP, Merrid & Serc so him making a move isn't very likely.

Because I think Serc & Merrid are only trying to get as many people to ally themselves with I think we need to look elsewhere for possible allies. That leaves Alkend, D'riss and Anomandaris. I don't like the Anomandaris as he has just made too many bonehead posts to trust him. So I think that you should break alliances with both Serc and Merrid and forges alliances with Alkend and D'riss. I can't break any of my alliances as they are with Serc and you. I have to keep the connection to Serc else he suspects that I'm not 100% on his team and we will need a way to talk to each other.

I hate that we are on the bottom of the numbers but if we can get one or two to commit to our alliance then I think we might be able to turn this around.

Barghast, on 14 April 2011 - 02:49 PM, said:

Hey good news. D'riss has contacted me with his forge alliance ablility. He doesn't know it yet and hasn't talked to me but I'll keep you posted on when that happens. I won't mention that we are in an alliance yet until I get a better feel for what's to come. I would like to proposal a top four alliance with him, you me, and maybe Alkend. What do you think?

Gah, it looks like I forgot to open an alliance thread!

Fener, on 14 April 2011 - 02:28 PM, said:

nope - no alliance thread open with eloth sorry.

Fener, on 14 April 2011 - 02:49 PM, said:

dont worry about it.

vote for ruse

if i make it go for leadership level 1

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D'riss is going to promote first and then reconsider going the leadership route.

D, on 14 April 2011 - 02:53 PM, said:

Okay well i'll open up my path to Leadership and i'll have both of these as 2 2 and one other in the mix. I need to be versatile come towards the end but as a player I think this will make me stronger.

D, on 14 April 2011 - 03:06 PM, said:

I take that back, i'll move to level 2 now and then i'll go to leadership next, level 2 endurance please.

Votes:
Ruse: Gamelon, Fener

Tattersail puts in an early action provisional.

D, on 14 April 2011 - 03:09 PM, said:

We need to eat, although our Morale is high anyway.

Path-Shaper, on 14 April 2011 - 04:51 PM, said:

I'm going to put this as a provisional for now... but if you level up and gain a new ability, you may decide to change this before the Challenge.

Woo, this could be prophetic... Shin may indeed get played... today!

Shadow, on 14 April 2011 - 03:09 PM, said:

Vote Fener

Karat et.al's 'group of 5' plan makes good sense to me. Sure, I could end up getting played by that, but for now it seems prudent to follow along with that.

Personally, i'm just having fun seeing everyone assume I'm a genius. I'm not sure what my deception will gain me later, but in the meantime it's interesting. The clues are already on thread to "out" me though, if someone (Tulas) puts them together.

Message to Fener: Sorry mate, Karat's offer is too good to be refused. It's nothing personal.

Votes:
Ruse: Gamelon, Fener
Fener: Shadow

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twelve's got a very friendly style of play. It makes him a little naive and opens him up to deception, but it also can be very powerful to getting allies who may be on the fringe, like Tattersail here.

Barghast, on 14 April 2011 - 02:35 PM, said:

Hey D'riss. I have been wanting to talk to you. These damn limitations on only two forged alliances suck

D, on 14 April 2011 - 02:57 PM, said:

Are you forged with two others at the moment then? Who you got going on? I forged with you and Serc, I didn't use it day one as I wanted to see who our better players were. You and Serc are looking strong whereas I don't know what to make of Alkend and Ano looks a bit weak in his posts. What are your thoughts on the game so far?

Barghast, on 14 April 2011 - 03:12 PM, said:

Your take on Ano is the same as mine. I think that the guy is a liability but he was on the right side of the numbers for the first vote so he must have an in of some sort in a big alliance.

I didn't use my forge ability day one either in the hopes that someone approached me first so I could then use my two forge alliances to get the numbers for a big alliance. Unfortunately the one person that approached me turned out to be Tiam and when I forged an alliance with Serc I found out that there was already a big alliance and that I'm middle of the pack in the numbers game.

The other person that I've been talking to is Kalse. He seems to be on the look-out for allies. He seems like he is being very straight up with me so I have kept the forged alliance with him. Do you have a feel for where you stand in the game?

I'm Twelve by the way. Nice to meet you.

Tatter goes the other way and tries to put doubt into D'reks head, but I don't know that she'll bite.

D, on 14 April 2011 - 02:55 PM, said:

Hi Serc,

You look to be our strongest player in tasks and you also seem to have your head screwed on tight, what is your take of the game so far? Any comments about our team? I'm thinking Anomander is one of our weaker players along with HP. HP because in tasks he seems like he is dying a death and Ano because of his irrational "weird" posts in the Dureza camp. Thoughts?

Interesting that D'rek is partially honest here. She still is faking not being a Leader but now is potentially offering DKT as vote bait for a future Tribal Council. That could get out if she's not careful and DKT may not appreciate being #5.

Serc, on 14 April 2011 - 03:19 PM, said:

Well, it all comes down to the luck of the dice, right? HP's stats shouldn't be any different from you, Merrid or Barghast. Likewise, my stats aren't any different from Kalse, I just got lucky with the dice rolls in the bag throwing (and sorry if it made you look back ). HP's not posting a whole lot, but he seems to have the interests of the tribe to heart. He's playing for himself, too, obviously, as are we all, but he's willing to give quite a bit.

Ano, OTOH, is holding stuff a lot closer to his chest. He said he had an INT bonus, but hasn't said anything beyond that. Maybe he's a genius like me and Kalse, but he hasn't spoken up on the extra +INT or anything related. So he might be something else, and either he's lying about his stats or has a different role with +INT (deceiver maybe? It seems like it would be a smartsy role). His posting is I guess a bit weird, and mostly spam not much content, but this game is kind of like that because there's lots of time where we're not in need of making cases because we're not (or don't know if we are) going to tribal council. There aren't any scum to be had, so no one is making crazy cases based on little idiosyncrasies of each others' posting. Plus for Ano, his timezone doesn't seem to match the rest of us well at all.

So if we ever go to tribal council again, even though I don't think Ano is particularly bad, he still does seem a weak link and he'll be a serious contender for the next fire-snuffing, I think.

Succint enough?

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twelve is playing subserviently here to D'rek.

Barghast, on 14 April 2011 - 06:34 AM, said:

With the forum being so off an all day today I've had a lot of time to sit back and think. What exactly do you guys expect of me as the 6th guy in the alliance? I know that I'm pretty much out of the decison making but you will let me know how you vote right? Is there anything else you want or need me to do for you?

I will put in my request to gain a strength role when we level up so I figure that would be helpful. So if I can be useful to you guys in anyway just let me know okay?

Serc, on 14 April 2011 - 03:08 PM, said:

Generally just vote with us when possible (yeah I'll pass along to you who we're voting for) and act in the best interests of the tribe, but also of the alliance. So for example volunteering to go STR is really good because we don't like Alkend all that much, but we also don't want to lose a STR player. With you going STR, if we want to vote out Alkend it's not so bad because we've got you. I'll ask if there's anything else but that'd probably be it for specifics. Looks like right now the alliance has 2 survivalists, me and whatever Ano is (Genius probably, unless he's something else that gets an INT boost... deceiver? or if he's lying).

HP says: "Pseudo-welcome to the Gentlemen Bastards Barghast. You're Bug our little protege in training. If you haven't read the books you should."

Doesn't Bug die? heh heh heh...

Barghast, on 14 April 2011 - 03:23 PM, said:

I'm reading Dust of Dreams right now though I haven't picked up the book in a couple of days. I think I know who bug is. Isn't that Mael the elder god of the sea?

Pseduo-welcome. What's up with that? False welcome? Fake welcome? I do like the Gentlemen Bastards part though. Sounds very dastardly. Muah ha ha haa.

Why does the alliance only have 2 survivalists. Isn't HP, D'riss, Merrid and I all survivalists?

Serc, on 14 April 2011 - 03:32 PM, said:

Bah, typo, meant 3 (because 2 + 1 + 1 is clearly 5... it's early in the morning okay?!)

The Gentlemen Bastards is a group from the Gentleman Bastard sequence by Scott Lynch. He was referring to that and saying you should read The Lies of Locke Lamora (the first book). "Pseudo-welcome" I assume to be because you're our 6th, our protege person (the Bastards' group is 5 members and they are training a 6th named Bug in the first book), or maybe he just meant it because it was through me and indirect. He didn't mean anything bad by it, anyways.

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Here are the prime two Gentlemen Bastards.

Merrid, on 14 April 2011 - 02:56 PM, said:

Well I told kalse that I was allied with alkend who I also told. I said that alkend was tight with tiam. Kalse says that he is allied with another player but he hasn't said who. He was supper excited that alkend was with me and wanted me to try to bring him into an alliance with him.

Slow...

Merrid, on 14 April 2011 - 03:08 PM, said:

I have to say that I like our alliance having two strengths. Perfectly balanced. At least till the merge.

Serc, on 14 April 2011 - 03:26 PM, said:

Well I log on today, read your message and then check my conversations block and sure enough Kalse has used forge alliance on me

I think I need to sketch a flowchart of all these alliances, yeesh!

Have people forgotten about D'riss? heh

Merrid, on 14 April 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

Me

You
Alkend
Kalse

You
Kalse
Me
Barghast
Hp

Hp
Ando
You

Alkend
Me

Ando
Hp

Kalse
Me
You

Driss????

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Lizra's hapy with the current state of affairs... to Karat, then to Eloth.

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 05:03 PM, said:

Sounds good.

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 05:05 PM, said:

I assume you mean Kara in your post above. Yes he is.

Then welcome.

Are you linked to anyone else?

Then sneakiness to Shadow.

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 05:08 PM, said:

I agree, it seems like a good choise to vote one of our Survivors of.

And then honesty to Liosan & Eloth (same post)

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 05:14 PM, said:

WE lost the challenge and it turns out that I have something to tell.
My ability allows me to know, what my allies have chosen to be.
When I allied with Shadow PS told me that he is a Survivalist, which means that he lied on thread about his abilitys, so I suggest we vote him off.
Right now he believes that we are going to vote Ferner off.

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HiddenOne to Lizra, trying to rationalize the vote for Shinrei.

Liosan, on 14 April 2011 - 05:44 PM, said:

What would he have to gain from deception? I have no problem voting him, just curious - also, are we going to disclose this reasoning publicly why we are trying to get rid of him?

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 06:04 PM, said:

When he came on we already had three people saying they where Survivors. I think he wanted to be safer from being voted out by making us believe he is a genius.

I'm not sure if I like to tell everyone. After all, that ability works best if unknown.

Ah, Mentalist is not progressing the Follower role. What a pity.

Alkend, on 14 April 2011 - 05:51 PM, said:

give me level 1 challenger, pls.

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twelve tries to get more info from D'rek but D'rek is likely to just feed him lines and lines of half-truths.

Barghast, on 14 April 2011 - 06:17 PM, said:

Oh. When you said books I thought you were referning to the Malazan books. I took a quick peek on line and the books sound very interesting. I might try them out if I can ever finish DOD. Though a buddy of mine have been trying to get me to read the Dresden books for a while now and those look good as well. But with 2 young kids I don't have a lot of time in the evenings to do much reading at all.

Also your math seems off again. 2+1+1 is clearly NOT 5. I wasn't sure if that was a typo again or you deliberately wrote it that way.

As for the Pseudo-Welcome I took no offense to it. I just thought it an interesting choice of words.

Why don't you like Alkend so much? It seems like he and Merrid are very tight from what Tiam told me.

Vengey sharing some "too bad" info w/ Ment about some of the other players.

Merrid, on 14 April 2011 - 06:19 PM, said:

Right now kalse is on an alliance with me and serc. Poor guy. The only person I haven't heard anything about is driss.

Anybody else talking to you.


You were actually on my list of people to get allied with. You dibs and shin.

HiddenOne and Lizra contemplate how to get rid of Shadow without alerting him.

Liosan, on 14 April 2011 - 06:11 PM, said:

After reading back I can see that. I won't disclose any info on you. Someone is going to have to build a case because we'll need one more vote to get him out, we've got to have an outsider help us. Wish we could get TS to vote him as a rite of passage:}

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 06:21 PM, said:

I think Eloth is currently allied to TS. But we need to wait for Eloth until he comes on to pass the news.
I don't see how we can built a good case on him without telling something of my abilities.

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Tapper's pretty suspicious of the alliance overall. Don't know how long you can go without being at least somewhat trusting of others.

Eloth, on 14 April 2011 - 06:55 PM, said:

I'll vote with you guys for Shadow, can't make promises of course for someone else but will relay the info.

Ah Tapper, you're safe for now...

Eloth, on 14 April 2011 - 06:58 PM, said:

I'm far too popular for my own good.
But then, I am good.

/bragging

probably will get voted off straight away now

Tapper also votes for Shadow because... hey anybody but yourself is a great reason!

Quote

Hi there, I'll vote Shadow.

because apparently he lied, and because my alliance thinks he should go down. But ultimately, because he is not me. Which means it is fine if he goes.

Ruse: Gamelon, Fener
Fener: Shadow
Shadow: Eloth

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Lizra and HiddenOne discuss the voting of Shadow.

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 06:21 PM, said:

I think Eloth is currently allied to TS. But we need to wait for Eloth until he comes on to pass the news.
I don't see how we can built a good case on him without telling something of my abilities.

Liosan, on 14 April 2011 - 06:47 PM, said:

Treat him like scum, build a case - I'm not volunteering, by the way

Liosan, on 14 April 2011 - 06:50 PM, said:

Can you get word to Eloth to talk to TS before he goes on the TC forum and votes the wrong way? Interception, like

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 06:55 PM, said:

I can try to get word through, but it depends on when Eloth comes on again.
Luckily we don't need absolute majority. It is enough to vote someone off if we have majority even if less than have of the players have voted for him.

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 07:08 PM, said:

TS knows what's going on.

Mentalist realizes he may need to have a better foothold in alliances.

Alkend, on 14 April 2011 - 06:53 PM, said:

lol

no, no one is talking to me.

I want to forge some alliances, to get a handle on more players, but i' think i'll wait till tomorrow. right now I gotta focus on my next exam, cuz that class beat me senseless at midterms...

Merrid, on 14 April 2011 - 07:11 PM, said:

Well see if driss is talking to anyone.

Go and study. I have a take home midterm to complete this week. It is actually only half of my midterm I have a inclass half in two weeks.

On the plus side only 6 classes left.

Some exaggeration here by Tapper from Roldom, but that's the way it goes. When someone is found out to lie, it's easy to drum it up as a big deal. The reason they lost was really a lot of good rolls... =0 Also some sneakiness here in the Spiderweb.

Eloth, on 14 April 2011 - 06:56 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 14 April 2011 - 01:07 PM, said:

wow, ok so would you mind if I got in on that? If so, we are 4, but who do we pick as a 5th?

I will send a pm to Kara and try to dig for info, I wont announce to them that we are in an alliance until I hear back from you.

I'd be happy to have you in there, as well
They're going to vote for Shadow, who apparently lied about his abilities, leading to the loss of the challenge according to Kara.

Tulas Shorn, on 14 April 2011 - 07:11 PM, said:

Should I let Kara know you and I are speaking? I haven't heard back from him yet, and if you would rather keep it a secret I will.

Vengey is bored.

Merrid, on 14 April 2011 - 07:19 PM, said:

So alkend is going to try to start some alliances with some of the other players in the next day or so. He has a hideous exam schedual ahead though.

Anybody else feeling chatty.

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Barghast feeling a bit worried about Kalse maybe? Or maybe just bored.

Barghast, on 14 April 2011 - 07:39 PM, said:

You've been quiet today. I didn't freak you out did I?

Well D'riss asked my take on the game and that is about it. Not very much going on today (that I can see)

Barghast, on 14 April 2011 - 07:44 PM, said:

Quiet day today. Not much going on even after the forum reapeared after a little down time. Has anyone forged an alliance with you? What is your take on Merrid and HP? I haven't had much contact with either of them.

Tapper rolling in alliances! He's got Fener, too.

Eloth, on 14 April 2011 - 06:57 PM, said:

awesome

Hi there Fener.

Fener, on 14 April 2011 - 07:47 PM, said:

hi mate - didnt think i would get back on but did, now cant post until after the council.

i voted ruse - not sure if it will affect you. i agreed with gamelon that some roles may not have abilities usefuil to the group and ruse being a follower seems to be the weakest at the moment.

Eloth, on 14 April 2011 - 08:57 PM, said:

Ah, OK. I went for Shadow, as it was hinted by other allies that he/ she lied about his/her abilities.
Not that it mattered much for this challenge, apparently, but someone keeping secrets can cost us challenges.

Tapper back to Bent and their subterfuge.

Eloth, on 14 April 2011 - 08:58 PM, said:

Oh no, I told him to get you into the alliance. Since so did he (and also Fener and Ruse) I felt there was no secret in revealing us talking, just never mentioned what about

Liosan adds to the Spiderweb votes on Shadow... what a cruel way to go, an early blindside.

Liosan, on 14 April 2011 - 08:17 PM, said:

Vote Shadow

He deceived tribe, and is a Survivalist, which we have too many of, and the Alliance has spoken

Spend XP on Lvl 2 Challenger

Ruse?

And Ruse...

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 08:31 PM, said:

vote Shadow

"farewell"-message: If you lie and we figure it out, then you are the one to go. Mafia, you know.

Ruse: Gamelon, Fener
Fener: Shadow
Shadow: Eloth, Liosan, Ruse

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Looks like Bent's in...

To Tapper...

Tulas Shorn, on 14 April 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:

fair enough, then I will go ahead and vote shadow and throw my lot in with you guys.

Tulas Shorn, on 14 April 2011 - 09:08 PM, said:

You know, I think I will just take his word on it this time.

Voting now

To Roldom...

Tulas Shorn, on 14 April 2011 - 09:07 PM, said:

I am in contact with Eloth and you right now.

Eloth said the plan is to vote Shadow, so I am going to go ahead and do that, he also told me that there are 5 of us,

Eloth, you, Fener and Ruse, and now me. hopefully this is true and not a ploy by him to get me to vote his way, lol

I am going to wait to hear from you to confirm that Eloth is telling the truth.

And the vote...

Tulas Shorn, on 14 April 2011 - 09:09 PM, said:

Heres hoping I am not being led wrongly by Eloth

Vote Shadow

Ruse: Gamelon, Fener
Fener: Shadow
Shadow: Eloth, Liosan, Ruse, Tulas Shorn

twelve can relax, ansible is still on board. Just busy.

Kalse, on 14 April 2011 - 09:08 PM, said:

Hey man. I just wanted to shoot you a quick note. All is well and I'll respond in detail to your messages in a couple hours probably. Been a crazy day at work, just haven't had time to devote to a good response yet. But yeah I'm kinda glad it's been slow, thank God we avoided Tribal Council. Talk to you soon man.

ansible wants to level up to Genius 2.

Kalse, on 14 April 2011 - 09:10 PM, said:

I'd like to put in a provisional to use my 2 EXP to unlock Level 2 of the Genius role.

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