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Spoilers (Mafia 72 - Survivor) 39 days, 18 castaways, 1 survivor

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 09:53 PM

Barghast is right here... better to be lucky than good.

Barghast, on 15 April 2011 - 08:42 PM, said:

It will also tell us if we can get Alkend to commit to know for sure that he did flip to our side as well.This ablily looks like it has great advantages to helping us get back on the right side of the numbers. The Challenger role gives me the expected +1 strength but it also can give +1 strength to someone in group challenges to someone without a strenth bonus. Something about carrying someone else.

As for finding the idol, I was depressed after the first tribal council when I realized that I was on the outside of the numbers so instead of increaing our moral with my top chef ablility I searched for the HII. After I submitted my action almost immediately regretted it as I was sure I wasn't going to find it. WHen PS came back and told me that I found it you told me I was very, very, very (maybe evern 1 more very) lucky to find it.

Hey sometimes it's better to be lucky than good right.

So I've had the idol for well over a day. That was why I was so confident that all we needed was one person from the other side to flip and we would go from the miority to the majority just like that.

I'll go ahead and submit show HII to you just to be officail. D'riss just told me by the way that Serc was being fishy in his responses to his PMs. He is thinking of breaking his link with Serc and forming one with you. That sounds like he is with us.



More alliance discussion from twelve to D'rek.

Barghast, on 15 April 2011 - 08:48 PM, said:

By his posting time the only people that I know with that drastic of a time zone difference are Shin and Silencer. That goes back to me asking your alt. I figure this would be a good way for me to start seeing personalities behind alts and not just unknown avatars. So have you guys decided yet on who is getting the ax? I have my boys to myself pretty much all day so I'm not sure how often I can get on as they demand a lot of my attention.


Bent in the Spiderweb happy to be around. To Lizra.

Tulas Shorn, on 15 April 2011 - 08:58 PM, said:

hello sir, I must confess I was worried that I was going to be voted out and Eloth was just putting me on.



D'rek to DKT.

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 08:59 PM, said:

Ohhh, you must read it, it's awesome. The only bad part of it is that the author writes really slow so the sequels are taking years between their release (the 3rd one is supposed to come out this year).

So, you enjoying the game so far? Glad you signed up for this madness?


On the outs, Dibs hooks out with fellow outsider snake0026.

Fener, on 15 April 2011 - 09:06 PM, said:

hey mate hows it going. just thought i may as well use the ability while we are still kicking. us survivalist gotta stick together! am leadeership one survivalist 1, recommend a different course for you using your exp


Bent with his new secret abilities.

Tulas Shorn, on 15 April 2011 - 09:06 PM, said:

Super, That will be useful later stages, after the merge....cool.

I am keeping it (by the way, I am talking about my learn who votes for who) a secret until I can gather enough info to attack.

Do I get to use it only one time, or is it once every council...also can I use it on the other team, pre-merger?

probably not the second one but meh, worth a shot...:D



Serc and D'riss... probably all fake chatter.

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 08:57 PM, said:

I think Ano is either Loki or someone playing the noob card pretending to be Loki. The posts aren't so much weird as just not your average mafia tone.

As far as who we'll vote off, not sure. People who hold off on revealing what they got with their EXP are probably going to face the most criticism, since they'll stand out as not being team players.

Who do you think looks the weakest?

D, on 15 April 2011 - 09:25 PM, said:

Weakest, I would say Ano, regardless of Noob or not. Although Alkend does not seem to have anything good in terms of abilities but he is our strength player, I don't know to be honest, I may even go for whoever comes last on this task. What are your thoughts?

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 10:06 PM

Leg 1
(Sx2,E:25) - Two strength digs and then continual endurance digs. 25 points win. Every endurance dig will result in a -1 endurance penalty in the second leg.

All players have +2 Morale.
Karatallid has +1 all rolls (Coattails).
Kalse and Tulas Shorn have +1 to INT rolls for working on the challenge alone.

Strength roll 1
Alkend (+1S) 25 | 2 + 1 + 2 = 5 | 20
Anomandaris (+1S,+1I) 25 | 6 + 1 + 2 = 9 | 16
Barghast (+1S,+1E) 25 | 8 + 1 + 2 = 11 | 14
D'riss (+2E) 25 | 9 + 2 = 11 | 14
Hood's Path (+1S,+1E) 25 | 4 + 1 + 2 = 7 | 18
Kalse (+3I) 25 | 10 + 2 = 12 | 13
Merrid (+2E) 25 | 3 + 2 = 5 | 20
Serc (+1S,+1I) 25 | 8 + 1 + 2 = 11 | 14

Eloth (+1I) 25 | 4 + 2 = 6 | 19
Fener (+1S,+1E) 25 | 1 + 1 + 2 = 4 | 21
Gamelon (+1S,+1E) 25 | 5 + 1 + 2 = 8 | 17
Karatallid (+1S,+3E,+1I) 25 | 1 + 1 + 2 = 4 | 21
Liosan (+2S) 25 | 7 + 2 + 2 = 11 | 14
Okaros (+1S,+1E) 25 | 7 + 1 + 2 = 10 | 15
Ruse 25 | 2 + 2 = 4 | 21
Tulas Shorn (+3I) 25 | 5 + 2 = 7 | 18

Strength roll 2
Alkend (+1S) 20 | 1 + 1 + 2 = 4 | 16
Anomandaris (+1S,+1I) 16 | 4 + 1 + 2 = 7 | 9
Barghast (+1S,+1E) 14 | 2 + 1 + 2 = 5 | 9
D'riss (+2E) 14 | 2 + 2 = 4 | 10
Hood's Path (+1S,+1E) 18 | 7 + 1 + 2 = 10 | 8
Kalse (+3I) 13 | 4 + 2 = 6 | 7
Merrid (+2E) 20 | 10 + 2 = 12 | 8
Serc (+1S,+1I) 14 | 4 + 1 + 2 = 7 | 7

Eloth (+1I) 19 | 1 + 2 = 3 | 16
Fener (+1S,+1E) 21 | 1 + 1 + 2 = 4 | 17
Gamelon (+1S,+1E) 17 | 9 + 1 + 2 = 12 | 5
Karatallid (+1S,+3E,+1I) 21 | 2 + 1 + 2 = 5 | 16
Liosan (+2S) 14 | 5 + 2 + 2 = 7 | 7
Okaros (+1S,+1E) 15 | 10 + 1 + 2 = 13 | 2
Ruse 21 | 4 + 2 = 6 | 15
Tulas Shorn (+3I) 18 | 1 + 2 = 3 | 15

Endurance Roll 1
Alkend (+1S) 16 | 9 + 2 = 7 | 9
Anomandaris (+1S,+1I) 9 | 1 + 2 = 3 | 6
Barghast (+1S,+1E) 9 | 2 + 1 + 2 = 5 | 4
D'riss (+2E) 10 | 9 + 2 + 2 = 13 | -3 > Moves on (2nd)
Hood's Path (+1S,+1E) 8 | 3 + 1 + 2 = 6 | 2
Kalse (+3I) 7 | 10 + 2 = 12 | -5 > Moves on (1st)
Merrid (+2E) 8 | 4 + 2 + 2 = 8 | 0 > Moves on (4th)
Serc (+1S,+1I) 7 | 6 + 2 = 8 | -1 > Moves on (3rd)

Eloth (+1I) 16 | 10 + 2 = 12 | 4
Fener (+1S,+1E) 17 | 3 + 1 + 2 = 6 | 11
Gamelon (+1S,+1E) 5 | 10 + 1 + 2 = 13 | -8 > Moves on (2nd)
Karatallid (+1S,+3E,+1I) 16 | 10 + 3 + 2 = 15 | 1
Liosan (+2S) 7 | 1 + 2 = 3 | 4
Okaros (+1S,+1E) 2 | 8 + 1 + 2 = 11 | -9 > Moves on (1st)
Ruse 15 | 7 + 2 = 9 | 6
Tulas Shorn (+3I) 15 | 7 + 2 = 9 | 6

Endurance Roll 2
Eloth (+1I) 4 | 5 + 2 = 7 | -3
Fener (+1S,+1E) 11 | 10 + 1 + 2 = 13 | -2
Gamelon (+1S,+1E) --
Karatallid (+1S,+3E,+1I) 1 | 9 + 3 + 2 = 14 | -13 > Moves on (3rd)
Liosan (+2S) 4 | 2 + 2 = 4 | 0
Okaros (+1S,+1E) --
Ruse 6 | 6 + 2 = 8 | -2
Tulas Shorn (+3I) 6 | 7 + 2 = 9 | -3

Roll off:
Eloth 6
Tulas Shorn 8 => Moves on (4th)

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 10:56 PM

Leg 2
(S:30,E:25) - Continual strength digs. All players suffer a -1 Endurance penalty for every dig they perform. Every dig counts against them. Penalties from the previous leg are assessed at -1 per Endurance dig. Endurance bonuses can offset the penalties, but there is no Endurance bonus. Minimum of 1, always.

All players have +2 Morale.
Karatallid has +1 all rolls (Coattails).
Kalse and Tulas Shorn have +1 to INT rolls for working on the challenge alone.
All players have -1 Endurance. Karatallid and Tulas Shorn have -2 Endurance.

Strength Roll 1
D'riss (+2E) 30 | 1 + 2 = 3 | 27
Kalse (+3I) 30 | 3 - 1 + 2 = 4 | 26
Merrid (+2E) 30 | 10 + 2 = 12 | 18
Serc (+1S,+1I) 30 | 5 + 1 -1 + 2 = 7 | 23

Gamelon (+1S,+1E) 30 | 4 + 1 + 2 = 7 | 23
Karatallid (+1S,+3E,+1I) 30 | 5 + 1 + 2 = 8 | 22
Okaros (+1S,+1E) 30 | 6 + 1 + 2 = 9 | 21
Tulas Shorn (+3I) 30 | 1 -2 + 2 = 1 | 29

Strength Roll 2
D'riss (+2E) 27 | 3 + 2 = 5 | 22
Kalse (+3I) 26 | 2 - 2 + 2 = 2 | 24
Merrid (+2E) 18 | 10 + 2 = 12 | 6
Serc (+1S,+1I) 23 | 6 + 1 -2 + 2 = 7 | 16

Gamelon (+1S,+1E) 23 | 3 - 1 + 1 + 2 = 5 | 18
Karatallid (+1S,+3E,+1I) 22 | 10 + 1 + 2 = 13 | 9
Okaros (+1S,+1E) 21 | 3 - 1 + 1 + 2 = 5 | 16
Tulas Shorn (+3I) 29 | 7 - 3 + 2 = 6 | 23

Strength Roll 3
D'riss (+2E) 22 | 2 - 1 + 2 = 3 | 19
Kalse (+3I) 24 | 3 - 3 + 2 = 2 | 22
Merrid (+2E) 6 | 10 - 1 + 2 = 11 | -5 > Moves on (1st)
Serc (+1S,+1I) 16 | 7 + 1 -3 + 2 = 7 | 9

Gamelon (+1S,+1E) 18 | 5 - 2 + 1 + 2 = 6 | 12
Karatallid (+1S,+3E,+1I) 9 | 8 - 1 + 1 + 2 = 10 | -1 > Moves on (1st)
Okaros (+1S,+1E) 16 | 9 - 2 + 1 + 2 = 10 | 6
Tulas Shorn (+3I) 23 | 9 - 4 + 2 = 7 | 16

Strength Roll 4
D'riss (+2E) 19 | 8 - 2 + 2 = 8 | 11
Kalse (+3I) 22 | 4 - 4 + 2 = 2 | 20
Merrid (+2E) --
Serc (+1S,+1I) 9 | 1 + 1 - 4 + 2 = 0 => 1 | 8

Gamelon (+1S,+1E) 12 | 3 - 3 + 1 + 2 = 3 | 9
Karatallid (+1S,+3E,+1I) --
Okaros (+1S,+1E) 6 | 1 - 3 + 1 + 2 = 1 | 5
Tulas Shorn (+3I) 16 | 5 - 4 + 2 = 3 | 13

Strength Roll 5
D'riss (+2E) 11 | 2 - 3 + 2 = 1 | 10
Kalse (+3I) 20 | 8 - 5 + 2 = 5 | 15
Merrid (+2E) --
Serc (+1S,+1I) 8 | 5 + 1 - 5 + 2 = 3 | 5

Gamelon (+1S,+1E) 9 | 6 - 4 + 1 + 2 = 5 | 4
Karatallid (+1S,+3E,+1I) --
Okaros (+1S,+1E) 5 | 6 - 4 + 1 + 2 = 5 | 0 > Moves on (2nd)
Tulas Shorn (+3I) 13 | 1 - 5 + 2 = -2 => 1 | 12

Strength Roll 6
D'riss (+2E) 10 | 10 - 4 + 2 = 8 | 2
Kalse (+3I) 15 | 2 - 6 + 2 = -6 => 1 | 14
Merrid (+2E) --
Serc (+1S,+1I) 5 | 7 + 1 - 6 + 2 = 4 | 1

Strength Roll 6
D'riss (+2E) 2 | 3 - 5 + 2 = 0 => 1 | 1
Kalse (+3I) 14 | 10 - 7 + 2 = 5 | 9
Merrid (+2E) --
Serc (+1S,+1I) 1 | 7 + 1 - 7 + 2 = 3 | -2 > Moves on (2nd)

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 11:26 PM

Leg 3
I:30 - Continual intelligence rolls. All previous penalties are removed.

All players have +2 Morale.
Karatallid has +1 all rolls (Coattails).

Intelligence Roll 1
Merrid (+2E) 30 | 9 + 2 = 11 | 19
Serc (+1S,+1I) 30 | 6 + 1 + 2 = 9 | 21

Karatallid (+1S,+3E,+1I) 30 | 2 + 1 + 2 = 5 | 25
Okaros (+1S,+1E) 30 | 7 + 2 = 9 | 21

Intelligence Roll 2
Merrid (+2E) 19 | 5 + 2 = 7 | 12
Serc (+1S,+1I) 21 | 6 + 1 + 2 = 9 | 12

Karatallid (+1S,+3E,+1I) 25 | 3 + 1 + 2 = 6 | 19
Okaros (+1S,+1E) 21 | 5 + 2 = 7 | 14

Intelligence Roll 3
Merrid (+2E) 12 | 6 + 2 = 4
Serc (+1S,+1I) 12 | 4 + 1 + 2 = 5

Karatallid (+1S,+3E,+1I) 19 | 1 + 1 + 2 = 4 | 15
Okaros (+1S,+1E) 14 | 7 + 2 = 9 | 5

Intelligence Roll 4
Merrid (+2E) 4 | 4 + 2 = 6 | -2 > Wins
Serc (+1S,+1I) 5 | 2 + 1 + 2 = 0

Karatallid (+1S,+3E,+1I) 15 | 3 + 1 + 2 = 6 | 9
Okaros (+1S,+1E) 5 | 7 + 2 = 9 | -4 > Wins
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Posted 15 April 2011 - 11:28 PM

Very very close... Serc/D'rek barely loses to Vengey. If Barghast/twelve can successfully execute the idol being played, it could result in Serc going home. Talk about a bitter pill, although there's a good chance Merrid/Vengey would have been the target if Serc had won. Meanwhile, Okaros did himself a huge favor winning. He was one of the primary candidates to go home on his tribe.

Should be an exciting vote.
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Posted 15 April 2011 - 11:46 PM

Vengey talks to Serc... they are considering sending home either D'riss or Kalse... this could get really interesting!

Merrid, on 15 April 2011 - 10:09 PM, said:

I got a increase in ex and a fire starting ability. nothing spectacular.

I am fine sending either one home.


ansible is awed by twelve's idol.

Kalse, on 15 April 2011 - 10:13 PM, said:

Ooooh....pretty. :D


Vengey isn't giving up on being a predator.

Merrid, on 15 April 2011 - 10:15 PM, said:

So when Do I transform into the predator and get to kill people. Can you imagine the havoc that would cause. Especially if I could take out people from either team.

Anyway I am out for the weekend.

Later PB.

Merrid, on 15 April 2011 - 10:27 PM, said:

Also is it to late to use my Moral boost. Although it doesn't look like we need it.

Path-Shaper, on 15 April 2011 - 11:43 PM, said:

You were quite a predator today in that challenge!

You were at Outstanding Morale heading into the Challenge.


Here may be the needle... gonna be very dicey! D'rek could be headed for an early exit, which is a shame, because she's an excellent player! Still, hubris and a lack of caution can do anyone in.

Barghast, on 15 April 2011 - 10:54 PM, said:

I'm going to be out for a long while. I suggest that we vote Serc. I'll tell Kalse that as well.


twelve wondering if he can hold the idol but that wouldn't be much fun, would it?

Barghast, on 15 April 2011 - 11:07 PM, said:

Question Can I use my idiol on someone elses behalf? Or do I have to give it to them so they can use it?

Path-Shaper, on 15 April 2011 - 11:45 PM, said:

You have to give it to them if you want them to use it. Once they have it, they can do whatever they want with it.

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 12:04 AM

Lizra trying to calm down Bent.

Ruse, on 15 April 2011 - 11:09 PM, said:

Nope, we were just struggling to get everyone connected.


Looking like snake0026 may have indeed saved his own skin!

Ruse, on 15 April 2011 - 11:11 PM, said:

I haven't read up yet, but I would like to go for Okaros.
He seems to be the least participating and I have seen him lurking quite a few times.

Ruse, on 15 April 2011 - 11:17 PM, said:

If the challenge goes on like this Okaros might get immunity. I think Ferner would be a good backup.
What are your thoughts on this?

Ruse, on 15 April 2011 - 11:20 PM, said:

And we should see how everyone has leveld up.

Sorry for putting that all in three post. :D


Mentalist is listening for the time being. He's a pretty cagey guy, I wonder how suspicious he is...

Alkend, on 15 April 2011 - 10:17 PM, said:

hmm. Any names to back that up?

'm open to all possibilities, but I don't think they'll be voting you off anytime soon--you're pretty useful to the team.

Serc's name is up again!

Kalse, on 15 April 2011 - 10:33 PM, said:

Here's one: Serc. I've been talking to him a good amount and that's how I know I'm on the outside. He wouldn't give me names but he made it sound like he was speaking for the group. I mean, maybe he was totally lying to me but why bring your name up like that? I got a very strange vibe from the whole thing. I've heard similar things secondhand through someone else who has been talking to Serc.

I admit, I was even suspicious of you myself early on because you won immunity but didn't reveal or post much. There's some of that on thread too. You've been more active now which is why I'm contacting you. Someone out there isn't telling the truth and I want to prepare for the inevitable shift of alliances.

As far as voting me off, I hope you're right. I wouldn't be surprised if they thought someone else could fill my role and decided I was expendable, though. With your role not being as key in challenges, I imagine that probably goes for you too.

Alkend, on 15 April 2011 - 10:58 PM, said:

hmm
Ser is the other Genius, no?

I can see him trying to get rid of competition to become indespensable.

ansible is a pretty persuasive guy... will Ment go for it?

Kalse, on 15 April 2011 - 11:29 PM, said:


Well, yeah, and that puts me in danger. Looks like Serc might end up winning immunity too...

I'll also tell you, I was talking to Merrid before. I know you two have been talking. I also know you were allied with Tiam and were instrumental in getting him voted off...but now people are wondering if you were telling the truth about Tiam. I have to say, I don't know what you're being told but it's not the same as what I'm hearing. Upcoming Tribal Council is going to be pretty important and I really think that if we vote together we have a better shot of surviving. Better to cut your losses than to wait to get replaced or blindsided.

But I'm not hearing a lot of interest from you - how do you think TC is going to play out, anyway?

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 12:05 AM

twelve talking to ansible here... an absolutely genius move to try and use the idol *and* to "play along."

Barghast, on 15 April 2011 - 11:03 PM, said:

I'm going to be out for a while. I'm going to put in some provisionals with PS to outline what I would do in whichever situation. I didn';t tell D'riss this yet but since we will most likely be using the HII to save someone I am going to vote however Serc tells me to vote. No sense letting them know that I'm not one of them for as long as possible.


snake0026 considering breaking alliances? Interesting.

Okaros, on 15 April 2011 - 11:36 PM, said:

Got it. Please submit all actions in the confessional thread from here on out, just easy for me to track that way.


Lizra is scrambling to vote out dibs since snake0026 won immunity.

Ruse, on 15 April 2011 - 11:50 PM, said:

Okaros won immunity. So he is out of the voting.
what do you think about voting for Ferner?


Ruse, on 15 April 2011 - 11:52 PM, said:

Any preferences who to vote for?

With Okaros having Immunity it is basicly down to Ferner and Gamelon.

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 04:59 AM

Meh, I understand why they did it. It was pretty obvious I was withholding something, if not actually lying.

I think you handicapped the Deciever role a bit PB. It became obvious that I would have to share my role so we could meet the challenges, but the very word "Deceiver" I'm sure would have put people off, so I thought it better to hide it. In addition to this, the only thing I am actually allowed to share in my PM is the +Intelligence thing, so it would still look like I'm hiding something. Overall, if forced to reveal, the deciever role looks more like a liability than a help - I know as a player I'd look at that and think "he can probably feed information to the other team!" or something like that.

I suppose the better way for me to have played it would have been to admit to being a deceiver, and then false revealing a skill that would make me appear to be helpful and not withholding information.
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Posted 16 April 2011 - 06:51 PM

Bent talking with Lizra about voting off Dibs.

Tulas Shorn, on 16 April 2011 - 01:25 AM, said:

I say Fener, give the other team a laugh, also Gamelon seems to be a stronger player, but it may just be his posting style.

Tulas Shorn, on 16 April 2011 - 01:27 AM, said:

Also I just realized that he used his points for the challenger role. Not sure what Fener used his on, although he might have said and I just missed it.


Same for Roldom to Tapper.

Karatallid, on 16 April 2011 - 01:28 AM, said:

we are thinking about voting fener as he is the quietist


Roldom to Lizra, same business.

Karatallid, on 16 April 2011 - 01:24 AM, said:

fener makes sense, thanks for the boost :D shame it didnt help lol

Karatallid, on 16 April 2011 - 01:33 AM, said:

just read the challenge, so damn close to winning....


Roldom talking things over with Bent, too.

Karatallid, on 16 April 2011 - 01:27 AM, said:

we are thinking about voting fener as he is the quietist

Tulas Shorn, on 16 April 2011 - 01:31 AM, said:

I was telling Ruse the same thing, I thought Gamelon was playing stronger and he used his LP towards the challenger role.

Tulas Shorn, on 16 April 2011 - 01:31 AM, said:

Well, that and it will crack the other team up. :)

Tulas Shorn, on 16 April 2011 - 01:32 AM, said:

By the way, I am connected to you, Ruse and Eloth now.

Karatallid, on 16 April 2011 - 01:36 AM, said:

so your just missing Lio

ill message him and see if he has a spare forge allience, otherwise we may have to do some messing about lol

Allways vote of fener... :D


On the outs, Loki and Dibs talk over who to vote, but they don't have any strategy to pull in people outside the Spiderweb. I would be surprised to see anyone else go home but one of them.

Gamelon, on 16 April 2011 - 12:11 AM, said:

I have opened the Challenger role - so I know have our level 1 survivalist bonuses as well as +1 strength and I can lend +1 strength to a non-Challenger team mate as long as we are in the same leg of a challenge.


I'm finding these server issues are making the game hard to play.....



DKT likes the game, it seems.

Anomandaris, on 16 April 2011 - 08:06 AM, said:

Yes its actually quite cool! Its not mafia but its fresh. And the whole levelling up thing is very interesting! Something that might translate well to an actual game of mafia. Only problem is the forum crashing every 10 minutes!


DKT justifies his Genius Psych. Well done.

Anomandaris, on 16 April 2011 - 08:10 AM, said:

I picked it because people are assuming i am a genius so i need as much info to play the part. :D

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 06:53 PM

Writing could be on the wall for D'rek unless she suspects something or Ment tips her off indirectly. Her big chance comes from this: twelve will be voting the "selected" person and as such, there will only be 2 votes (Kalse, D'riss) on Serc, assuming Alkend doesn't flip. If they decide to split the votes "just in case" it will save her since the tie will be on one of Kalse/D'riss. Don't know that she's considering that possibility, though.

D, on 16 April 2011 - 08:13 AM, said:

Okay fine by me.

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 06:54 PM

Liosan, on 16 April 2011 - 12:53 PM, said:

no prob. Fener will prob be it


Ment is immediately asking Vengey about his status in the tribe... but Vengey says to stay calm. He also doesn't think there's any chance of them being broken up... whoo boy.

Alkend, on 16 April 2011 - 12:07 AM, said:

congrats on the immunity

I hear people are trying to shaft me

Merrid, on 16 April 2011 - 05:51 PM, said:

If so no one has said anything to me about it. I told serc either driss or kalse. Last I talked to him he was saying that he wanted to keep kalse around and get rid of driss as driss isn't really talking to anyone.

I suggest you get in contact with hp or ano. I am making a connection with barg. The more communication we have in ou group the better to minimize and eliminate rumers. Personally I don't think that there would be a break in our alliance till after the merge and hopefully after we had eliminated the ponders.


Dibs not sure... and way late. Still, Tapper may go elsewhere, he doesn't seem locked in.

Fener, on 16 April 2011 - 06:58 PM, said:

sure - any idea who you think should go. i am in an alliance with eloth too. if we pool our collective talents - say you join lio or someone aswell we can have a 4 person block.

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 07:42 PM

Here's twelve trying to get Serc out with Tattersail.

Barghast, on 16 April 2011 - 07:38 PM, said:

FYI,

Kalse leveled up to level 2 for genuis. He gets an additional +1 intel bonus and he now has the ablility to see the results of 1 players vote. That will be very helpful. What are the exact stats for level 2 endurance. After this tribal I have a chance to level up in either endurance or strength. I want to know exactly what I'll be getting if I go endurance rather than strenth.

I was really shocked that both Kalse and Serc beat me in that first leg as I had a +2 bonus and neither of them had any.That and Serc didn't win the thrid leg with a +2 intl advantage at least, +3 if he leveled up to level 2 genuis instead of going the Leader route over Merrid. That leads me to believe that he is lying. Also doesn't his description of the leader role seem off to you. I'm so glad when we send Serc home.

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 08:28 PM

Interesting... but I don't know that this will save Serc unless Serc is willing to split votes or they are willing to vote off one of their own.

Merrid, on 16 April 2011 - 08:00 PM, said:

I like that both Barghast and Alkend were willing to quickly change. To me it says that they are willing to do what we need in order to advance our alliance through the game.

Alkend seems to think that some of our members are talking about cutting him out. If this is the case let me know. I told him that I didn't know anything about it. I told him to try to connect to either HP or Ano. Since shin is gone then Ano is either silencer or a busy Dibs or Tapper. Both of whom have been on at weird times and are busy with things in RL. Of course the stupid servers have been fucking up with letting me get a better read on TZ posting.

I think that our alliance is starting to balance out pretty well. Your leader branch seems to be the only one that didn't get a good bump. But you were still competing right with me for the idol. Which is what we want to happen. As long as we can keep immunity idols in our alliance then we are golden hopefully till the merge.

So my fire building is actually pretty decent. If there is a fire building challenge I will win unless the other person also has fire building. Which could come in handy during those challenges.

Merrid, on 16 April 2011 - 08:10 PM, said:

Ok as I read our alliance levels this is what I see


Merrid - Level 2 surviver - +2 exp, +1 moral, + fire starting

Serc - Level 1 Genuis +1 int, Level 1 Leader Moral resistance

Alkend - Level 1 follower knows what people's abilities are, Level 1 Challenger +1 stre +1 exp, which can be passed onto a partner

HP - level 1 surviver +1 exp +1 moral, level 1 challenger +1 exp +1 stre ( bonus same as alkend)

Ano - level 2 genuis

Barghast - level 1 surviver +1 exp +1 moral, level 1 challenger +1 exp +1 stre ( bonus same as alkend)


That is a good looking team right there. We only have 2 that are the same and two that went straight up. We managed to branch out really well.



Tapper decides to specialize...

Eloth, on 16 April 2011 - 08:14 PM, said:

Another Leader level, please.

EDIT: explanation: I think specializing into something with broad generalisations will help the team. It may also help me a bit further :D

Leader - Level 2

Rallying Cry (A) - Allies, take heart... hear my call! Every time you or your tribe loses a challenge, you gain 1 Rallying Cry charge, up to a maximum of 2. This cry grants you and your team a +1 Rally bonus for every charge. (A Rally bonus stacks with all other bonuses. This will expend all saved charges, regardless of the outcome of the challenge. If you lose the challenge, you will gain another charge. This has no effect for individual challenges. If other Leaders use Rallying Cry, only the strongest will take effect and all others will be wasted. A "team" is "your alliance" for all team based challenges).
Strong - It takes muscle to get your way, too. - +1 Strength

Tapper doesn't seem too against voting off Fener.

Eloth, on 16 April 2011 - 08:17 PM, said:

Ah, Fener joined me as an ally. Not much info coming my way, but he and I share timezones, so the when is only a matter of time. He gained a Leader level this time around.

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 09:07 PM

Dibs trying to figure out how to get the numbers on his side.

Fener, on 16 April 2011 - 08:56 PM, said:

forged alliance with gamelon too. we going get a voting block going?

thinking ruse or someone like that?

Fener, on 16 April 2011 - 08:57 PM, said:

any thoughts on who you want removed. if the three of us work together we can survive.

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Merrid, on 16 April 2011 - 09:50 PM, said:

I asked ps to patch me into Barg but PB is likely on extended hiatis. I have sent a couple of messages out to serc about elimination plans. The only thing I know is from a early yesterday when we were discussing Kalse and D'riss and he was saying that Kalse is being open and telling him levels and what not while D'riss is being very quite and he would rather send someone home who wasn't being helpful.

I can't figure out if Ano is silencer or dibs/tapper on a fucked up schedule. I thought that it might have been shin. But :killingme:he managed to get lynched on ponders side. :D.

I have been working on my take home part of my midterm for 3 hours now. Conceptualizing things sucks. I think that me and the wife might go see Hanna tonight. Hopefully it is as good as it looks. We don't go to the theater very often.

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 11:19 PM

Don't know that Ment will side with twelve... so twelve may be able to pull off the idol but will he be able to stave off a second vote?

Alkend, on 16 April 2011 - 09:40 PM, said:

issues again?

I asked PS to put me through to Ano. his zone seems to be our night, and i'll be pulling an all nighter for Real property, in all likelyhood... given how I got up 20 mins ago.

Merrid, on 16 April 2011 - 09:50 PM, said:

I asked ps to patch me into Barg but PB is likely on extended hiatis. I have sent a couple of messages out to serc about elimination plans. The only thing I know is from a early yesterday when we were discussing Kalse and D'riss and he was saying that Kalse is being open and telling him levels and what not while D'riss is being very quite and he would rather send someone home who wasn't being helpful.

I can't figure out if Ano is silencer or dibs/tapper on a fucked up schedule. I thought that it might have been shin. But :killingme:he managed to get lynched on ponders side. :D.

I have been working on my take home part of my midterm for 3 hours now. Conceptualizing things sucks. I think that me and the wife might go see Hanna tonight. Hopefully it is as good as it looks. We don't go to the theater very often.


Ment wants to attach to DKT... good thing he has masked his true form.

Alkend, on 16 April 2011 - 09:09 PM, said:

can I get an alliance with Anomandaris going?


Vengy also wants to find the idol.

Merrid, on 16 April 2011 - 09:38 PM, said:

ok so I have actually posted this like 3 times but the server kept going down.

That's right BITCHESSSSS..... SUCK IT...

I would now like to look for the hidden immunity idol.


Oh and I trust no one on the GB. But I trust them more then Kalse or Driss.

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Posted 17 April 2011 - 05:30 PM

Loki gonna try and make something happen now?

Gamelon, on 17 April 2011 - 12:05 AM, said:

*nods approvigly* I'm glad to hear it :D



Also, I would like to FORGE ALLIANCE with LIOSAN - would you like me to ask for that here or in a seperate PM? I'm confused now... :|


snake0026... no clue what this vote is about.

Okaros, on 17 April 2011 - 01:02 AM, said:

my provisional vote shall be for Karatallid,

vote Karatallid


Lizra justifies why he used coattails on Roldom.

Ruse, on 17 April 2011 - 01:16 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 15 April 2011 - 07:56 PM, said:

Any particular reasoning for that?


I think it is good to have someone really tied to one, so the rist of betrayal and backstabbing is less. Then you can plan better together with that player. Kara and I have already planed together and it might take us to the end so I want to make sure that he sticks with me and doesn't find someone else.


I play devil's advocate with twelve.

Barghast, on 17 April 2011 - 03:38 AM, said:

Well it has to be Serc. That is who Kalse is telling Alkend has been setting Alkend up for a blindside later in the game. I know that Alkend is part of the 5 Bastards but he seems to feel like he is the bottom of the barrel in the pecking order of the 5. With Serc mentioning that to other players even if it's a lie Alkend may think that it's true enough to switch sides.

Regardless even if Alkend doesn't switch we will have both Serc telling me who to vote out and Kalses ability to find out who is voting for who. Even if D'riss is ratting me out I'll survive at least one more round. The only way I am going home is if Kalse is betraying me. You have to put your trust in someone. I know that I'm in the bottom of the numbers and I need to make a big move to improve my standing. If it works then I'm golden. If not then I will have been played for a fool and deserve to go home.

Path-Shaper, on 17 April 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

OK, so let's say you can trust Kalse and can't trust Alkend. What do you do if you manage to get rid of Serc but you're still in a 4-3 minority?


Here twelve is talking to anisble.

Barghast, on 17 April 2011 - 04:14 AM, said:

I told D'riss that we are going to get rid of Serc. Though if D'riss isn't the target I might just tell him to vote with whoever the group is voting for. That would be less suspicious.


Here twelve is playing up the alliance to get Serc to orchestrate a vote in the manner she bets sees fit.

Barghast, on 17 April 2011 - 04:18 AM, said:

I would like to vote with the group. So when you have decided on who needs to go just let me know who to vote before the weekend break is over.

Thanks


Tapper shares his new ability with Karatallid.

Eloth, on 17 April 2011 - 06:02 AM, said:

Also, Fener has the food bonus to morale, has he not?
I have gained a morale boost to the team as an ability, but it needs to be charged.... by losing challenges :D
As such, I wouldn't dismiss a survivor straight out of hand.


Tapper not sure who to vote off.

Eloth, on 17 April 2011 - 06:04 AM, said:

Hey Ruse, our alliance currently contains you, Kara, me and TS, but who is the mystery fifth person originally intended to be in it?
I'd hate to suggest him/her by accident, for example.

Kara suggests Fener as target, because of contribution, but Fener is another of my allies and has the Survivor morale bonus, which I would not want to discard too rapidly.



Ment talking with DKT.

Alkend, on 16 April 2011 - 11:49 PM, said:

Hey, Ano, wanted to get some additional communications going in our little group, and since your schedule seems to match my study schedule, it might be a god time to talk.



any ideas as to ho we should go about the tribal council?

Anomandaris, on 17 April 2011 - 07:46 AM, said:

We are going to have to vote either driss or kalse i suppose.

Alkend, on 17 April 2011 - 08:04 AM, said:

hmm

Kalse is our genuis.

We have another one in Serc, but i'd rather we keep Kalse around still, at least for now.
D'riss I have no idea about. he hasn't been around much



Looking like tapper wants to go to bat for Dibs.

Eloth, on 17 April 2011 - 06:11 AM, said:

Currently trying to convince a few of my other allies to not vote for you - they want to do that based on your amount of time online (always a ridiculous argument), I'm currently countering it by saying your survivalist cooking bonus is too important.

Fener, on 17 April 2011 - 08:59 AM, said:

plus everytime i am online the fucking forum is down. gamelon is up for taking out ruse as he has no bonuses himself and we cannot be certain which way his bonuses will be dished out to one other player

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Posted 17 April 2011 - 05:35 PM

On the outs, dibs and gamelon try to justify their votes.

Gamelon, on 17 April 2011 - 12:02 AM, said:

I will look into seeing if Lio is interested in joining us.

At present, my thoughts on voting are that as far as I can tell, success really comes down to what the dice say and having +1 or +2 hasn't beenreally been benefiting greatly so far, though I suspect it will once the number of players decreases and we find people start competing in certain skill areas where they don't actually possess the required skill.

Currently, my main two options for voting off are TS - the second challenged required a high intelligence requirement for the second leg and she switched Shadow out of the second leg and replaced him with herself, thus taking Shadows +1 intelligence from where it was need most. TS only now has +1 intelligence as she leveled up her Leader role. Her judgement may affect our chances of success again in the future.

The other is Ruse - Ruse is a follower and has the ability to add +1 to a team mate however he has no advantages himself when competing and unless he is willing to use his ability in a manner that will best serve the tribe and not his own agenda it may not benefit us much.

Gamelon, on 17 April 2011 - 04:37 AM, said:

I seem to have made a mistake in regards to TS - she is in fact a genius.

Gamelon, on 17 April 2011 - 09:21 AM, said:

Perhaps you would like to see if Eloth agrees about Ruse too? If so, that would give us 3 votes - I've sent a forge alliance request to PS in the hopes of starting an alliance with Liosan. I don't think PS has been back on to organise it yet. I'll try and see if he has any alliances before mentioning too much to him. If I was Ruse, I would have made alliances as soon as the game started and my pick would have been Lio and Karatallid so I'll try not to give anything away until I know what Lio's stance is.

Fener, on 17 April 2011 - 11:13 AM, said:

yeah eloth tells me his partner was trying to convince him to lynch me as i havent been on enough supposedly. which is a fucking strange thing to say when the forum has been down all bloody week.

Gamelon, on 17 April 2011 - 11:27 AM, said:

You've been on more then a lot of others.....this isn't standard MAFIA, lynching someone for lack of commenting isn't the brightest way to go. But then, you are Fener so you should be used to uncalled for lynchings :D


Now they will try to pull in Liosan.

Gamelon, on 17 April 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

Hey Lio,

I thought I'd give one of the actions a go. Are you interested in discussing how things have progressed so far and how you think we should go ahead from here? I'm not really sure how these alliances usually work but I figure discuss that would be a good start :D


At the moment, I'm trying to figure out what kind of criteria would be best for deciding who to vote out at Tribal Council. There seems no real point in using standard MAFIA reasoning for it because the game is played in a totally different fashion. I thought perhaps it would be best to vote out whoever seems less likely to assist the tribe in challenges. What do you think?


Tapper is trying to organize with Bent here.

Eloth, on 17 April 2011 - 06:06 AM, said:

Hey TS, sorry for being silnt this long.

Do you know who the mystery fifth guest is besides Kara, Ruse, you and me? I still have no clue. Kara is asking me to vote Fener, I'm not sure about that as he has the cooking morale bonus.

I gained a leader level: a minor strength bonus and I can give morale boosts - but to charge that ability we will have to lose challenges first. Which seems nice, but basically we'll need to get the short end of the stick before it is useful.


Tulas Shorn, on 17 April 2011 - 01:08 PM, said:

Yes, Liosan is our 5th. So that only leaves - Okaros,Fener and Gamelon as our choices to vote off.

Kara said he wanted to keep Gamelon around because he was a stronger player than Fener, and I agreed thinking how funny the other team would think it was.


But if you think Gamelon is a better choice, Im sure we could convince them to switch.

Can't vote Okaros, he has immunity.


And Bent talking to Lizra. Karatallid hasn't been on much to try and control the noise so we'll see if that puts a crack in the alliance.

Ruse, on 17 April 2011 - 03:30 AM, said:

I agree that Ferner seems to be the better choise and the others are agreeing as well though I have yet to speak with Eloth.

Tulas Shorn, on 17 April 2011 - 01:08 PM, said:

Eloth wasnt sure why Fener, as he is our cook, and might make a case to change it over to Gamelon.



Serc trying to reason who is who...

Serc, on 17 April 2011 - 03:41 PM, said:

Merrid, on 16 April 2011 - 08:00 PM, said:

I like that both Barghast and Alkend were willing to quickly change. To me it says that they are willing to do what we need in order to advance our alliance through the game.

Alkend seems to think that some of our members are talking about cutting him out. If this is the case let me know. I told him that I didn't know anything about it. I told him to try to connect to either HP or Ano. Since shin is gone then Ano is either silencer or a busy Dibs or Tapper. Both of whom have been on at weird times and are busy with things in RL. Of course the stupid servers have been fucking up with letting me get a better read on TZ posting.

I think that our alliance is starting to balance out pretty well. Your leader branch seems to be the only one that didn't get a good bump. But you were still competing right with me for the idol. Which is what we want to happen. As long as we can keep immunity idols in our alliance then we are golden hopefully till the merge.

So my fire building is actually pretty decent. If there is a fire building challenge I will win unless the other person also has fire building. Which could come in handy during those challenges.


Not sure where Alkend is getting that from... I have been discussing voting him out to Kalse and D'riss, but not any more so than talking about voting out anyone else. I don't want to give away to them who the alliance is by refusing to talk about voting out people, so I'm having grand conversations that will be completely ignored at the actual voting time.

So what is this fire building business? You're now a good fire builder but what does it do?


Merrid, on 16 April 2011 - 08:10 PM, said:

Ok as I read our alliance levels this is what I see


Merrid - Level 2 surviver - +2 exp, +1 moral, + fire starting

Serc - Level 1 Genuis +1 int, Level 1 Leader Moral resistance +1 int.

Alkend - Level 1 follower knows what people's abilities are, Level 1 Challenger +1 stre +1 exp, which can be passed onto a partner

HP - level 1 surviver +1 exp +1 moral, level 1 challenger +1 exp +1 stre ( bonus same as alkend)

Ano - level 2 genuis

Barghast - level 1 surviver +1 exp +1 moral, level 1 challenger +1 exp +1 stre ( bonus same as alkend)


That is a good looking team right there. We only have 2 that are the same and two that went straight up. We managed to branch out really well.



Comprehensive list below. You had +exp on the level 1 challenger, but I don't remember anyone mentioning that and it gives that level 3 abilities/qualities which seems odd so... you sure?? Assuming all levels of all roles have 2 abilities/stats mods, then Alkend should probably have another ability (or maybe he just phrased his two abilities into one or something like that). Not sure if Ano (Loki??) has been on much recently, but I'll ask him what he got from genius level 2 to fill that in.

Merrid
Level 1 Survivalist: +1 END, can boost tribe's morale by 1
Level 2 Survivalist: +1 END, + fire starting

Serc
Level 1 Genuis: +1 INT, +another INT when working alone
Level 1 Leader: +1 INT, does not lose morale from tribal councils

Alkend
Level 1 Follower: knows what people's abilities are, second quality??
Level 1 Challenger: +1 STR, +1 STR to partners in challenges, +1 END???

HP
Level 1 Survivalist: +1 END, can boost tribe's morale by 1
Level 1 Challenger: +1 STR, +1 STR to partners in challenges, +1 END???

Ano
Level 1 Genuis: +1 INT, +another INT when working alone
Level 2 Genius: abilities???

Barghast
Level 1 Survivalist: +1 END, can boost tribe's morale by 1
Level 1 Challenger: +1 STR, +1 STR to partners in challenges, +1 END???

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Posted 17 April 2011 - 07:59 PM

Vengey and D'rek... I wonder if this union is coming to an end soon.

Merrid, on 17 April 2011 - 06:26 PM, said:

If I compete against someone in a fire building competition and they don't have the fire building bonus then I win automatically. If they have the bonus the it is even. So I guess we roll for it. So if there is a challenge that includes building a fire then make sure that I am put down for that role.

I think that Alkend might be a little bit paranoid probably from school and the fact that I am the only one talking to him. Oh yeah and that Kalse keeps talking about wanting to get rid of him on the thread. :D

Merrid, on 17 April 2011 - 06:37 PM, said:

You know what I was looking at this on the thread and forgot that HP already +1 end.

View PostHood, on 15 April 2011 - 10:29 PM, said:

Ah damn server. Well glad to be able to post now. I've branched into challenger, putting me at +1 END and +1 STR. I like the pair bonus that comes with this (that is to say, the pair bonus that Alkend speaks of).


I told alkend to get hooked up with Ano. Hopefully that and some sleep will reassure him.

From what PS said during the challenge I think that our group is talking a lot more and has more alliances going then the ponders. That has probably changed by now though.

Oh and I am Locke and HP is Jean. He has the bump up in strength... :D

I don't suppose you know the other person whom Kalse is talking to now that he dropped his alliance with me?





And he wants to hook up with twelve.

Merrid, on 17 April 2011 - 07:05 PM, said:

I would like to create an alliance with Barghast. I think that I should have one alliance left to create.

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