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Posted 03 April 2011 - 08:24 PM

Heh, at least the unobtainium in The Core was deliberately a bad joke.

Also I have to agree LET'S HACK THE PLANET versions of computery stuff is really aggravating.
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Posted 03 April 2011 - 09:41 PM

Avatar as a whole pisses me off.
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Posted 04 April 2011 - 12:20 AM

Unobtainium didn't originate in Avatar. Not that it isn't a kind of silly word, but it's been used plenty enough in sci-fi and other stuff, kinda like "ansible".
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Posted 04 April 2011 - 01:01 PM

I forgive most transgressions in action films. Same for B-grade sci-fi flicks. I like the genres so much I'm willing to overlook nearly all the bad. You almost can't have an action movie without the over-the-top fight scenes and stupid one-liners. Otherwise it becomes realistic, which becomes truly disturbing given the body counts in some movies.

One of the few things that never fails to turn me off always in action movies is the severely outgunned protagonist. Like Jack Bauer in 24. He regularly runs into a room wearing a dress shirt and a man-purse carrying a 9mm pistol and maybe one extra clip of ammunition. He then proceeds to face down 10 trained terrorists armed with automatic weapons. For fucking real...there is absolutely no way, regardless of marksmanship skills, that you can win a gunfight like that. It's physically impossible for you to take a shot at any one guy without exposing yourself to at least one of the 9 other bad guys. Even if the bad guys are blind children in wheelchairs, they should be able to win based on sheer amount of their bullets vs yours.

And to start a new hate-train. 3 fucking D.

3D has really become one of those things that ruins movies for me. The novelty factor was there for Avatar and that movie made very good use of the medium. I can say it added to a few subsequent movies too, but now it's just getting retarded. I was kind of hoping 3D would just kind of curl up and die - being brought out only for the biggest and awesomest blockbusters - but it refuses to.

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 02:15 PM

Yeah, apparently the new rule is the movie can be shit as long as its in 3D.



The thing that pisses me off are the sports movies. Most do a good job at making sure they get things right, but some just completely fuck it up.

I remember watching Remember The Titans and being pissed off at half the movie because they were so sloppy and wrong with the actual football.

Apparently if you have Denzel you dont need to be accurate.
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Posted 04 April 2011 - 02:34 PM

HACK THE PLANET is too amusing to be annoying. I can forgive a lot in the name of humor. It's possible my love of Hackers is purely nostalgia, though.

As for action movies, I enjoy a good action movie, and generally the inherent flaws of the genre (mentioned above) don't get me down too much. But it does prevent most action movies from being really good movies. For instance, I would watch Live Free or Die Hard just to see Bruce Willis say "No, we can't go to the Warlock's house."

Off the top of my head, what annoys me the most is bad plotting. Characters making decisions that are nonsensical. Unfortunately this is fairly common. I'll sit through it but I don't have to like it.

I also hate 3D.
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Posted 04 April 2011 - 02:37 PM

I know what you're talking about RE sports movies.

First off they're usually pretty limp in the plot department, so the only ones watching them are sports nuts, and sports nuts are going to notice every little detail and inaccuracy in the film. When the whole movie centres around a sport, the least you could do is have it look real.

RE the 3D, I wish everyone would just realize it's not a bonus item. It needs to be integrated into the movie in every way to be good. The occasional thing flying out of the screen to make the audience jump isn't clever or original, it's just stupid and gimmicky. Avatar had 3D worked into every little detail in the movie and putting aside stupid plot points, it's tough to argue that the 3D version of the movie wasn't absolutely stunning. Then comes TRON - again, putting aside stupid plot points, the 3D added precisely nothing to it. Half the movie wasn't even filmed in 3D, so when it got added in, it wasn't even particularly noticeable. Adding a gimmick for the sake of a gimmick when the movie would have stood perfectly well on its own without 3D.
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Posted 04 April 2011 - 02:40 PM

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 10:48 AM

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 10:49 AM

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 12:28 PM

As an IT guy myself, nothing makes me cringe more than seeing how absolutely ridiculous computers gets portrayed. Most people never use a mouse. Everyone just bashes away at random keys on the keyboard. Hell some even use 2 keyboards simultaneously. And every screen has to have rolling text!

My favourite faux pas though, was in Boiler Room where Giovanni Ribisi gets handed a floppy by some government agent and told that he needs to back up his computer's entire hard drive onto it. His ENTIRE DRIVE! On a FLOPPY! WTF kinda winzip are you guys using, and where do I get it?!


Or even worse was in the TV series Life, where a guy pours a can of cola onto a keyboard in the server room, and this somehow causes the entire network in the building to go down.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 02:29 PM

View PostIlluyankas, on 01 April 2011 - 09:43 PM, said:

I hear it's better than Skyline.

To be fair, this is not a difficult accomplishment.


SHOWGIRLS was better than Skyline.
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View PostKnowing, on 03 April 2011 - 08:00 PM, said:

...Avatar pissed me off with the made up ore they were mining for. Unobtanium? really? It's just a word but it really dragged me out of the film. Likewise with other made up words that just sound silly.


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View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 04 April 2011 - 02:37 PM, said:

..RE the 3D, I wish everyone would just realize it's not a bonus item. It needs to be integrated into the movie in every way to be good....


Sure, but since there are still more non-3d capable theaters than not, they have to make the movie 'normal screen' friendly.

And frankly, the glasses are just irritating.



Y'know what i really hate. Endings. Hollywood doesn't know how to end a movie. You can have brilliant performances, crazed fx, superb plot leading somewhere really really interesting... and then clearly they ran out of ideasauce and had to fall back on either a totally unrealistic face/heel turn, a Xanatos plan to obscure that even the character who did it didn't see it coming, or a severly convenient case of just-in-the-nick-of-timing. Weak. So fucking weak.

Also, gratuitous action sequences... my empirical example of this was the car-in-the-tree in JURASSIC PARK... you have characters running for their lives from dinosuars... gloriously CGI'd (for the time) dinosaurs who bite heads off... and the characters spend ten minutes escaping from a car stuck in a tree. Seriously?
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Posted 05 April 2011 - 03:53 PM

I hate it when a plot calls for people to act like they have never seen a movie where something bad happened. Or where characters ignore the most common sense approach. It totally knocks me out of a movie. Paranormal activity 1,2 (the wife made me watch). If there is some strange shit going on in your house and it scares you... LEAVE, don't do a seance go get a priest. If you feel that scary thing will follow you(it has google maps) then go to consecrated ground like a church.

Also bad science which is elementry means that your movie has plot holes the size of a semi-truck and should have never been green lighted. There is such a thing as an Internet search.
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Posted 05 April 2011 - 05:37 PM

I watched new Tron in 2d and thought it was terrible so whether 3d made it more watchable ill never know as im not watching it again. Also glasses on glasses for 3d films? its so uncomfortable wearing 2 pairs.

Worst thing about Hollywood endings is the level of smugness afterwards like everythings gonna be ok. Die Hard 4 is probably the best case again. I know nothing about computers but even by my estimates nationwide black outs and completely shutting traffic networks seems like more of a long term problem than a simple 'we couldnt have done it without you john...'

Though his daughter in that was a bit of WIN
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Posted 05 April 2011 - 05:45 PM

View Posttiam, on 05 April 2011 - 05:37 PM, said:

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 05:52 PM

View PostVengeance, on 05 April 2011 - 03:53 PM, said:

I hate it when a plot calls for people to act like they have never seen a movie where something bad happened. Or where characters ignore the most common sense approach. It totally knocks me out of a movie. Paranormal activity 1,2 (the wife made me watch). If there is some strange shit going on in your house and it scares you... LEAVE, don't do a seance go get a priest. If you feel that scary thing will follow you(it has google maps) then go to consecrated ground like a church.

Also bad science which is elementry means that your movie has plot holes the size of a semi-truck and should have never been green lighted. There is such a thing as an Internet search.


In defense of this, they are informed early on that the haunting is not a ghost but a demon and the demon is not haunting the house, but the girl....so she knows leaving will not do a damned thing. Which is why I find it so scary actually. You can't escape something that haunts you as a person.
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Posted 05 April 2011 - 06:01 PM

As to 3D: For me when a film is done right in 3D...like Avatar....it's immersive to the point where the 3D doesn't need to jump out at you like in the old days of "Look what we can do 3D" (Jaws 3D I am looking at you)....instead GOOD 3D ought to make you feel like it's happening around you and add depth. The problem isn't that 3D is bad...more that it is UN-NEEDED in most of the films getting 3D-ified these days and also all these movies are getting converted in POST-production (as opposed to being shot in 3D like Avatar) and this used to be because 3D caught on after these movies were shot...but now it is being done this way cause post-3D is cheap...which sucks, because post-3D movies are usually muddy beer goggled messes....They are making too many movies in 3D. Not every movie needs to be 3D....but Hollywood...as per usual...will beat this horse until its 3D head is pulped on the rotten earth.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 06:16 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 05 April 2011 - 05:52 PM, said:

View PostVengeance, on 05 April 2011 - 03:53 PM, said:

I hate it when a plot calls for people to act like they have never seen a movie where something bad happened. Or where characters ignore the most common sense approach. It totally knocks me out of a movie. Paranormal activity 1,2 (the wife made me watch). If there is some
strange shit going on in your house and it scares you... LEAVE, don't do a seance go get a priest. If you feel that scary thing will follow you(it has google maps) then go to consecrated ground like a church.

Also bad science which is elementry means that your movie has plot holes the size of a semi-truck and should have never been green lighted. There is such a thing as an
Internet search.


In defense of this, they are informed early on that the haunting is not a ghost but a demon and the demon is not haunting the house, but the girl....so she knows leaving will not do a damned thing. Which is why I find it so scary actually. You can't escape something that haunts you as a person.



Go talk to a priest. Stay at a church. Don't do a seance.

First was better then the second.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 07:14 PM

View PostVengeance, on 05 April 2011 - 06:16 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 05 April 2011 - 05:52 PM, said:

View PostVengeance, on 05 April 2011 - 03:53 PM, said:

I hate it when a plot calls for people to act like they have never seen a movie where something bad happened. Or where characters ignore the most common sense approach. It totally knocks me out of a movie. Paranormal activity 1,2 (the wife made me watch). If there is some
strange shit going on in your house and it scares you... LEAVE, don't do a seance go get a priest. If you feel that scary thing will follow you(it has google maps) then go to consecrated ground like a church.

Also bad science which is elementry means that your movie has plot holes the size of a semi-truck and should have never been green lighted. There is such a thing as an
Internet search.


In defense of this, they are informed early on that the haunting is not a ghost but a demon and the demon is not haunting the house, but the girl....so she knows leaving will not do a damned thing. Which is why I find it so scary actually. You can't escape something that haunts you as a person.



Go talk to a priest. Stay at a church. Don't do a seance.

First was better then the second.



From a personal standpoint. If this were happening to me. A Priest and church do nothing (and I'd be aware of this)...cause I'm not a believer...nor would I assume demons could be stopped by holy men and charlatans, or stone buildings that house them. I wouldn't do a seance (they didn't in the movies though...not sure where u got that), Basically this is something that if you went to the northernmost town in Finland in the middle of nowhere... it could still get at you. You can't go anywhere or do anything. You're fucked. That's it. Scary.

The chick in the movie and the sister in the second were not religious as much as I could tell, and the first girl looked up that girl from the past who was haunted by a demon and she was in an asylum with lots of other people and orderlies ect...and was even exorcised by a priest..and nada...she still clawed her own face off...

Not that I can change your mind though. :)

I agree the first one was better. :)
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Posted 05 April 2011 - 07:38 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 05 April 2011 - 07:14 PM, said:

View PostVengeance, on 05 April 2011 - 06:16 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 05 April 2011 - 05:52 PM, said:

View PostVengeance, on 05 April 2011 - 03:53 PM, said:

I hate it when a plot calls for people to act like they have never seen a movie where something bad happened. Or where characters ignore the most common sense approach. It totally knocks me out of a movie. Paranormal activity 1,2 (the wife made me watch). If there is some
strange shit going on in your house and it scares you... LEAVE, don't do a seance go get a priest. If you feel that scary thing will follow you(it has google maps) then go to consecrated ground like a church.

Also bad science which is elementry means that your movie has plot holes the size of a semi-truck and should have never been green lighted. There is such a thing as an
Internet search.


In defense of this, they are informed early on that the haunting is not a ghost but a demon and the demon is not haunting the house, but the girl....so she knows leaving will not do a damned thing. Which is why I find it so scary actually. You can't escape something that haunts you as a person.



Go talk to a priest. Stay at a church. Don't do a seance.

First was better then the second.



From a personal standpoint. If this were happening to me. A Priest and church do nothing (and I'd be aware of this)...cause I'm not a believer...nor would I assume demons could be stopped by holy men and charlatans, or stone buildings that house them. I wouldn't do a seance (they didn't in the movies though...not sure where u got that), Basically this is something that if you went to the northernmost town in Finland in the middle of nowhere... it could still get at you. You can't go anywhere or do anything. You're fucked. That's it. Scary.

The chick in the movie and the sister in the second were not religious as much as I could tell, and the first girl looked up that girl from the past who was haunted by a demon and she was in an asylum with lots of other people and orderlies ect...and was even exorcised by a priest..and nada...she still clawed her own face off...

Not that I can change your mind though. :)

I agree the first one was better. :)


Ouija board/seance same thing... :p
Still wouldn't have done it. If this happened to me I would be across the street pulling the priest out of bed and dragging his ass over to my house. Then making double quick that I was on consecrated ground. After all if there were devils then there would be god too. If a church didn't work, would be double timing it to the closest synagogue and after that to a Buddhist temple, then to a Hindu temple. If none of them worked then I would be fucked. But I wouldn't just stay in my place. After all I wouldn't know if I it was after me or just didn't like the new construction house that I lived in. :p

If you in the northern most town in Finland you also have to worry about Vampires ala 30 days of night only a question of who is going to get you first. See I just came up with a new horror movie. Vampires in 30 days of night versus demon from PA...Setting Northern Finland. Only hope to live is a drunken priest who used to hunt vampires and before that exorcised demons. Played by.......... Liam neeson who in flash backs is mentored by sean connery. Who will get you first the demon or the vampires....dun dun dun... No plot holes and perfectly cast... :D
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