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Leo Grin posts a scathing editorial on modern fantasy - Abercrombie, Bakker, and others respond.

#61 King Bear

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 02:44 AM

Fist Gamet, on 20 February 2011 - 01:11 AM, said:

Yes, SM, I believe you are right. He knows exactly what he is doing. The turd.

I'm wondering if he's doing for the attention as well. He's certainly attracted a lot of it. How many of us have been to his website? Plus he got responses from some big names in fantasy literature. And I'll be back on his site to read part 2, dammit.

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 06:09 AM

Bombur, on 17 February 2011 - 07:19 AM, said:

The barbarian hordes massing on our malazan forum on the edge of civilised fantasy, poised to break out at any time and under the banner of our war-chief SE sweep away whatever remains of the shining cities of Middle-Earth and Hyborea.

Hell, I'd want to read that book! Marines V Orcs V Cimmerians. Pure win.

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 07:34 AM

Fist Gamet, on 20 February 2011 - 06:09 AM, said:

Bombur, on 17 February 2011 - 07:19 AM, said:

Hell, I'd want to read that book! Marines V Orcs V Cimmerians. Pure win.

GRRM, the guy who gave us Rand vs Jamie Lannister, should so do this!

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 08:24 AM

Bombur, on 20 February 2011 - 07:34 AM, said:

Fist Gamet, on 20 February 2011 - 06:09 AM, said:

Bombur, on 17 February 2011 - 07:19 AM, said:

Hell, I'd want to read that book! Marines V Orcs V Cimmerians. Pure win.

GRRM, the guy who gave us Rand vs Jamie Lannister, should so do this!

He should heed Mr. Miyagi and stay focused. Or else the nerdpocalpyse will reign.

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 11:37 AM

I do not have enough rep to bestow what this thread deserves. Some excellent posts, guys. :apt2:

Ahhh ... intellectual discourse, how I have missed thee. :Brood:

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 11:40 AM

intellectual discourse? on my malaz forum? holy shit better fix that in a jiffy

uh

um

er HIS OPINION IS A BUTT AND HE IS ALSO A BUTT

yeah there we go no quality discussion if i can help it

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 01:42 PM

Illuyankas, on 20 February 2011 - 11:40 AM, said:

intellectual discourse? on my malaz forum? holy shit better fix that in a jiffy

uh

um

er HIS OPINION IS A BUTT AND HE IS ALSO A BUTT

yeah there we go no quality discussion if i can help it

HAHAHA! Nice. LOL

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 05:31 PM

For me, the article loses all credibility when Grin refers to Lord of the Rings this and Lord of the Rings that. I'd just like to point out that the book he so praises is actually called THE Lord of the Rings -- get it right Mr Grin.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 01:28 PM

Don't suppose he's put up the second part of his post that he hinted at the end of the orginal?

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 05:48 PM

While I'll always agree that Abercrombie's work is overhyped with poor plotting and caters to the ridiculous bloodlust in many modern fantasy readers, the overall article was ridiculous. His need to raise the old and crusties up on a pedestal tells a lot about him.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 08:08 PM

Tarcanus, on 24 February 2011 - 05:48 PM, said:

While I'll always agree that Abercrombie's work is overhyped with poor plotting and caters to the ridiculous bloodlust in many modern fantasy readers...

Dont make me stab you.

- Abyss, means that in a nice way. Albeit bloody. But nice.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 08:39 PM

Abyss, on 24 February 2011 - 08:08 PM, said:

Tarcanus, on 24 February 2011 - 05:48 PM, said:

While I'll always agree that Abercrombie's work is overhyped with poor plotting and caters to the ridiculous bloodlust in many modern fantasy readers...

Dont make me stab you.

- Abyss, means that in a nice way. Albeit bloody. But nice.

My point, proved

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 03:50 PM

No.

NOW your point is proved.

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 01:26 PM

Goooooood...now take your Jedi weapons and strike each other down.

*basks in the hate*

OK, I think I got it, but just in case, can you say the whole thing over again? I wasn't really listening.

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 06:15 PM

No. You've failed, your highness. I'll never join you...

Victory is mine!

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 06:39 PM

If you will not turn...you will be destroyed.

OK, I think I got it, but just in case, can you say the whole thing over again? I wasn't really listening.

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 03:42 AM

Fist Gamet, on 02 March 2011 - 06:15 PM, said:

No. You've failed, your highness. I'll never join you...

Young fool. Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the Dark Side!

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 04:32 AM

Oh, I'm afraid you all are mistaken. About a great many things.

Your friends, on this sanctuary forum, are walking into a trap. An entire legion of Grinnites awaits them!

Ohhhh, I'm afraid the idiocy will still be quite operational when you blasphemers arrive.