[Meanas]

Just poking in here...

Vote Night

(edit for clarity)

This post has been edited by Meanas: 05 October 2010 - 03:57 PM

[Path-Shaper]

MOrning, y'all

it is Day 1, about 8 hours 30 mins left

17 people are still alive (Alkend, Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss , Eloth, Galayn Lord, Korvalain, Kalse, Karatallid, LIosan, Meanas, Osseric, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Sukul Ankhadu, Tellan, Tulas Shorn)

takes 9 votes to lynch, 0r 9 to go to night

1 vote for Liosan (Olar Ethil)
1 vote for Osseric (Liosan)
1 vote for Galayn Lord (Karatallid)
1 vote for Barghast (Ampelas)

Most people (12) have not voted (Alkend, Barghast, D'riss , Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kalse,Korvalain, Meanas, Osseric, Rashan, Sukul Ankhadu, Tellan, Tulas Shorn)

[Path-Shaper]

Meanas, on 05 October 2010 - 03:36 PM, said:

Just poking in here...

NIGHT

is that supposed to be a vote for night?

[Korvalain]

ill vote for night

Vote Night

[Liosan]

Well those two votes don't look suspicious at all. No sir, not at all.

[Alkend]

Back and waking up, though there doesn't seem to be anyone else around ...

[Liosan]

I am here. Kind of

[Ampelas]

Tulas Shorn, on 05 October 2010 - 02:36 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 05 October 2010 - 01:46 PM, said:

@ D'riss - My thoughts aren't set in stone, I'm trying to figure out what is likely to be going on.

After a bit of wiki'ing, I agree that Tyrannid are likely to be a cult if there is one. i think we should be working on the assumption that cult and FMs are both in play, since it seems very likely that they are. i'm undecided though whether the Necrons would be a small, hard to kill faction, or a faction more similar to town since they have the same win conditions. From what I have read the necron sound pretty badass, which implies a small, powerful faction. If that is the case I am wary of the people who have said the necron should be considered allies of a kind. Any faction that can eliminate everyone based with only two or three starting players will be insanely powerful late in the game unless they have lost a member or two through the game.

vote Bargast

He has downplayed the threat of the necros a couple of times. I realise the tyrannids are probably the biggest threat since cults almost always are, but the way Bargats has been talking about semi alliances and viewing the necrons as the least threat to town makes me think he likely is one.

Necro seems to be the simple killer faction looking at their winning conditions.
They might be a small powerful group or a larger less powerfull one. but in the end they still they have similar winning conditions to Town regardless.
Im not sure it has to be one or the other? both work fine together as possibilties.

Anyways, i understand why some people say they can be considered allies to start off with because they have to kill the other nastys just as badly as what town does.
And if they kill town instead of the others then they are just helping other factions.
makes a certain amount of sense to me.

I'm not saying we have to decide that it is one or the other. That is probably a bad thing to do.

The necron have to kill everyone, I don't see them getting terribly upset about killing town. Or how they would go about not targeting town. Same goes for us getting rid of the necrons. The discussion of sortof alliances and allocating a lower priority to certain factions is ineffectual and likely to get us in trouble further down the line if we do somehow manage to achieve it. I think it has more to do with the instinctive downplaying of one's faction's threat in a game like this. Which is why it makes my ears when I see it.

In addition Bargast's own logic is inconsistent. A small powerful faction like what he speculated is not someone you want to give a break. Ment has had a lot of time to think about this game and has indicated that he has put a lot of work into balancing it. If a small faction needs to eliminate everyone, they are going to have the ability to so. Exactly the kind of people you don't want around when numbers are low. Hence my vote for him.

@Driss No I dont think i understood what you meant. Were you just making an open ended statement saying what had been happening on thread?

[Meanas]

Path-Shaper, on 05 October 2010 - 03:38 PM, said:

Meanas, on 05 October 2010 - 03:36 PM, said:

Just poking in here...

NIGHT

is that supposed to be a vote for night?

Yes, sorry! Clarified now.

Liosan, on 05 October 2010 - 03:52 PM, said:

Well those two votes don't look suspicious at all. No sir, not at all.

Sarcasm instantly makes you look smarter, right?
No.
Got something to back up the suspicion?

[Alkend]

Liosan, on 05 October 2010 - 03:55 PM, said:

I am here. Kind of

Actually, looks like we're up to six people. But I'm not going to be particularly effective until I have some coffee and bacon.

[Path-Shaper]

it is Day 1, about 8 hours left

17 people are still alive (Alkend, Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss , Eloth, Galayn Lord, Korvalain, Kalse, Karatallid, LIosan, Meanas, Osseric, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Sukul Ankhadu, Tellan, Tulas Shorn)

takes 9 votes to lynch, or 9 to go to night

1 vote for Liosan (Olar Ethil)
1 vote for Osseric (Liosan)
1 vote for Galayn Lord (Karatallid)
1 vote for Barghast (Ampelas)
2 votes for night (Meanas, Korvalain)

Most people (11) have not voted (Alkend, Barghast, D'riss , Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kalse, Osseric, Rashan, Sukul Ankhadu, Tellan, Tulas Shorn)

[Liosan]

Meanas, on 05 October 2010 - 03:36 PM, said:

Just poking in here...

Vote Night

(edit for clarity)

Korvalain, on 05 October 2010 - 03:43 PM, said:

ill vote for night

Vote Night

Well lets see you come on and drop a vote for night right out of the blue and then seven minutes later Korvalain gets on and votes for night. I will stand beside my sarcasm all day. What else are two night votes basically back to back with out an explanation if not suspicious.

[Korvalain]

sigh

my 1st vote for olar was a joke

my 2nd vote was for aklend was an attepmt to get more people talking, but not really a serious vote

my vote for night

as i said b4

ive got another 6 hours at work where i can regularly check up on the thread so i think ill just sit back with my vote for now, theres so many players left and so many abilitys that tonights probs gonna be a blood bath, hopefully we will have enough info 2mo to start lynching more discrimintly....

so night would happen just after i fin work and cant check as often, which would b a pain as i wont get that info which i need for a more informed decision to make a more usefull vote

so i want night to happen sooner rather than later, and after meanes voted for night and put the idea in my head, i decided to vote that way too

[Liosan]

Korvalain, on 05 October 2010 - 04:17 PM, said:

sigh

my 1st vote for olar was a joke

my 2nd vote was for aklend was an attepmt to get more people talking, but not really a serious vote

my vote for night

as i said b4

ive got another 6 hours at work where i can regularly check up on the thread so i think ill just sit back with my vote for now, theres so many players left and so many abilitys that tonights probs gonna be a blood bath, hopefully we will have enough info 2mo to start lynching more discrimintly....

so night would happen just after i fin work and cant check as often, which would b a pain as i wont get that info which i need for a more informed decision to make a more usefull vote

so i want night to happen sooner rather than later, and after meanes voted for night and put the idea in my head, i decided to vote that way too

A reason thank you.

[Meanas]

Random chance, for one.

You long for an explanation? I'm _VERY_ curious to see what night brings while I've decided to not vote for anyone just yet. Make of that what you will.

I do have to ask myself though, what in the world are you gaining by trying to raise this issue at all? Not all that amusing, but the question's there.

[Karatallid]

Well damn meanas just set off all kinds of scum bells with that last post. Not sure if i want to swap my vote yet but that was definitely suspicious so im totally willing to switch to him if need be.

[Alkend]

Meanas, on 05 October 2010 - 04:23 PM, said:

You long for an explanation? I'm _VERY_ curious to see what night brings while I've decided to not vote for anyone just yet. Make of that what you will.

I can understand why someone might argue that we should vote for Night, because we're already down one Inno, and don't want to risk losing another to a misguided lynch. I don't necessarily agree, at least not on Day One, but I can see where that argument comes from.

Your vote for Night, though ... I'm not seeing it explained compellingly.

[Liosan]

Karatallid, on 05 October 2010 - 04:28 PM, said:

Well damn meanas just set off all kinds of scum bells with that last post. Not sure if i want to swap my vote yet but that was definitely suspicious so im totally willing to switch to him if need be.

No I was asking myself why someone would vote for night with a. almost 9 hours left in the day b. no real stated reason. It seems to me that the type of person who would do something like that would be either a. Symp or b. a jester type character. In a game like this I doubt if there are traditional symps so that leaves us with.

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iii)Since Eldar are the Warhammer 40k equivalent of elves, and they always cheat, they can ALSO win if 50%+1 of their force is killed in a way other than a modkill or a player kill.

I believe that we might have the privilege to see the first Eldar of the game.

[Meanas]

Right now it's all poking, guessing and people messing with each other's minds. The only thing happening right now is attempts at manipulation while we've seen just about nothing, other than someone having a premature shooting.
The sooner the night comes, the sooner the next day comes, and by dawn we'll be seeing a clearer picture.

[Meanas]

Liosan, on 05 October 2010 - 04:53 PM, said:

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iii)Since Eldar are the Warhammer 40k equivalent of elves, and they always cheat, they can ALSO win if 50%+1 of their force is killed in a way other than a modkill or a player kill.

I believe that we might have the privilege to see the first Eldar of the game.

Yes because Jesters are a lot more likely to get lynched at night...