[Korvalain]

Liosan, on 05 October 2010 - 04:53 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 05 October 2010 - 04:28 PM, said:

Well damn meanas just set off all kinds of scum bells with that last post. Not sure if i want to swap my vote yet but that was definitely suspicious so im totally willing to switch to him if need be.

No I was asking myself why someone would vote for night with a. almost 9 hours left in the day b. no real stated reason. It seems to me that the type of person who would do something like that would be either a. Symp or b. a jester type character. In a game like this I doubt if there are traditional symps so that leaves us with.

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iii)Since Eldar are the Warhammer 40k equivalent of elves, and they always cheat, they can ALSO win if 50%+1 of their force is killed in a way other than a modkill or a player kill.

I believe that we might have the privilege to see the first Eldar of the game.

that doesnt make sense to me...surly the eldar will want lynching every round? they dont want a no lynch night situation cos that increases the number of nights, which means theres a higher chance they will die by player kill so there team wll lose

[Barghast]

Ampelas, I explained that Necrons, by all appearances, are not the most dangerous faction at this point in the game. I fully understood that, in saying such, someone would show up and throw the, "He's downplaying it, he must be it," card. That's fine. Most of the other people here seem bright enough to recognize that they will NOT win the game until the other factions are down.

Putting it simply, if they're a tiny faction (2 people?) with extreme killing powers (maybe day and night kills), some protection (BP, LP), and whatnot, I'd say they're likely to get attention just for not dying.

I also said it's going to be an excellent idea to lynch them when we see them, but I still rate them as lower priority than the other factions.

Putting it this way... let's say that through bad play and game events, we (the town) get completely obliterated in a few days. Only the 4 scum factions remain. Surely you recognize that, at that point, the Necrons have almost 0 chance of winning the game because they can't win with a majority like the other scum factions... their only chance would be to try and cull the other factions equally and hopefully get to a final day where it's like 2 on 2 or 1 on 2 on 1 or something like that, and then kill off everyone in the final day. That's an extremely unlikely event, and it's why, as far as I can tell from the given info, the Necrons need the town to stick around for a while.

I do believe Ment gave the scum factions a reasonable chance of winning, but all paths are not created equal and some factions will certainly win easier than others. If all scum factions are immune to recruitment, that would make the cult faction (Chaos/Tyranid?) require the town, too, but we don't now that information, either.

[Liosan]

Korvalain, on 05 October 2010 - 04:57 PM, said:

Liosan, on 05 October 2010 - 04:53 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 05 October 2010 - 04:28 PM, said:

Well damn meanas just set off all kinds of scum bells with that last post. Not sure if i want to swap my vote yet but that was definitely suspicious so im totally willing to switch to him if need be.

No I was asking myself why someone would vote for night with a. almost 9 hours left in the day b. no real stated reason. It seems to me that the type of person who would do something like that would be either a. Symp or b. a jester type character. In a game like this I doubt if there are traditional symps so that leaves us with.

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iii)Since Eldar are the Warhammer 40k equivalent of elves, and they always cheat, they can ALSO win if 50%+1 of their force is killed in a way other than a modkill or a player kill.

I believe that we might have the privilege to see the first Eldar of the game.

that doesnt make sense to me...surly the eldar will want lynching every round? they dont want a no lynch night situation cos that increases the number of nights, which means theres a higher chance they will die by player kill so there team wll lose

You are correct sir. But if you were an eldar looking to get lynched then voting for night with 9 hours left in the day might do the trick. We are as a group prone (or at least have in the past) to lynching people who have voted for night during the first day.

[Alkend]

Meanas, on 05 October 2010 - 04:54 PM, said:

Right now it's all poking, guessing and people messing with each other's minds. The only thing happening right now is attempts at manipulation while we've seen just about nothing, other than someone having a premature shooting.
The sooner the night comes, the sooner the next day comes, and by dawn we'll be seeing a clearer picture.

Oh, gosh, than we should just vote Night every fucking Day, then things will just keep getting more and more clearer.

[Barghast]

If it weren't for those night votes, I'd say the best lynch today is Liosan. He way overreacted to that vig earlier (we all know it was stupid, but way to go for the Oscar, Lio), and he's now asking for some kind of weird justification for Korv's night vote. I find his line of discussion suspicious.

But man, those night votes really get me. I am pretty sure we can't afford to sit around on a non-vote. Yes, we can hit a townie, but if we started anywhere near 50% town and 50% scum (to reprise, my estimate was 8 town 10 scum), then we're certainly at > 50% scum right now.

In Poker, you'd call every single time your odds are greater than 50% of winning the pot. I see no reason why we shouldn't lynch someone and drop the scum.

So if you look at that, my first instinct is to NOT lynch Meanas or Korvalain... because while it is somewhat stupidly obvious, it's kind of like they're saying, "Hey Lynch us..." and what faction wants to get lynched again, hrrmmm?

[Karatallid]

But doing so in a game with Jesters seems stupid and you've got to assume the Jesters wont be quite that obvious. Although people do make mistakes sometimes so its possible but unlikely that meanas is indeed Eldar. Me im getting more of the "i have a cool NA and want to use it" vibe from him, which in this game is making me think scum of some kind but probably not Eldar.

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This post has been edited by Karatallid: 05 October 2010 - 05:07 PM

[Barghast]

See, this is why whoever vigged should have saved it if they could have... Meanas and Korv are just asking for it right now.

[Korvalain]

[Korvalain]

is this because i called u a xeno be4 barghast?

[Meanas]

You guys are gorram trigger happy, I'll give you that. And assuming a lot, in particular about everyone knowing your 'habits' as a group.

@Alkend - why not? It's still a vote. 36/12 is just dragging it for me. I understand timezone differences make this something of a neccesity, but that doesn't mean I have to repress my preferences. If I'm alone with this, all fine, you'll just override my vote and be done with it. It's not like you need 100% of votes to keep the day at it's full duration.
It's all in the game.

And please.
@Karatallid: It's possible for each one of you to be Eldar. That sentence brought nothing to the table.

[Barghast]

No, it's because you are a silly goofball who voted for night! In a game where a night vote basically gives every scum faction a free ride for a day! Town's main weapon is the lynch... we'd be foolish to not use it, especially given the odds.

[Barghast]

Also, thumbs up to Meanas, even if he's a little scumbody, for the Firefly reference.

[Karatallid]

Meanas, on 05 October 2010 - 05:19 PM, said:

@Karatallid: It's possible for each one of you to be Eldar. That sentence brought nothing to the table.

Did i even write that sentence? I see youve decided not to comment on the part of the post concerning your scummyness?

[Korvalain]

if theres roughly 9 townies left its a 1 in 2 chance of lynching them

if u assume theres 3 eldar, theres a 1 in 6 chance of lynching them, maybe slightly samaller odds for the other factions

i just dont wanna end up lossing 2 town b4 the 1st nights killing start

[Meanas]

Barghast, on 05 October 2010 - 05:19 PM, said:

No, it's because you are a silly goofball who voted for night! In a game where a night vote basically gives every scum faction a free ride for a day! Town's main weapon is the lynch... we'd be foolish to not use it, especially given the odds.

By the amount of running around in circles snapping at each other, we're more likely to hit each other while scummies just sit and laugh while they're playing with our heads.

(And before you start some stuff about me using 'we', you're doing it too. Yes, you.)

[Alkend]

I'm not voting for Meanas, simply because he might be Eldar.

Same reason I didn't vote for Olar Ethil or Korv earlier, when they were playing that silly "we might be Jesters, tee hee hee" game really early.

[Korvalain]

ive never said tee hee hee in my life....

and in saying that ur putting a huge target mark on me, olar and meanas for any necrons or viggys out there

so thanks

[Alkend]

Korvalain, on 05 October 2010 - 05:29 PM, said:

ive never said tee hee hee in my life....

and in saying that ur putting a huge target mark on me, olar and meanas for any necrons or viggys out there

so thanks

I'm not putting targets on any of you three - you've all done it yourselves.

[Korvalain]

it takes 9 votes to lynch someone, which i think is a consensus were not likely to achieve, even assuming theres talk between the eldar and they have all decided to vote for one of there own to win by jest

[Alkend]

Korvalain, on 05 October 2010 - 05:32 PM, said:

it takes 9 votes to lynch someone, which i think is a consensus were not likely to achieve, even assuming theres talk between the eldar and they have all decided to vote for one of there own to win by jest

I'm not saying Ment wouldn't do it, but it might make it a bit too easy for the Eldar to start railroading people if they can communicate off-thread. Especially if there's three or more of them, which can be sufficient to start a train.