[Tulas Shorn]

Karatallid, on 05 October 2010 - 09:53 AM, said:

OK back for a bit but likely to be sporadic in posting at the best.

Galayn Lord, on 05 October 2010 - 06:20 AM, said:

Sorry, at work and shit comes up I have to deal with. Managed to catch up now.

Have to say that the Vig is pretty disappointing play. Even if its some sort of forced Day 1 Vig, using it 2 hours into the day is silly stuff.

Lots of other stuff has happened so far as well, a pleasant surprise. Meanas got my attention as I was reading up. Who votes for someone on the suspicion they are a Jester? And then when asked about it decides not to say anything. Normally I'd call that pretty weird, but in this game I'm rather wary of voting someone off. If there are 3 Eldar its only 2 unlucky lynches for us and they win. And Meanas strikes me as a likely Eldar candidate. As the person who he was voting for (was is Olar?). That would presume they know each other of course so its a bit tentative there.

Other thing I like is what Rashan just brought up. I completely missed it on first read of the post from Osseric but I find it strange that someone wants to out people as Town.
Yes there was a Vig and it wasn't a great Vig but it came from the Town so why would you want to try and hunt down who did it? Outing people as Town is just going to put a huge target on their backs during the Night and is completely counter productive.

Be interested to hear from Osseric and Liosan there. Luckily we got oodles of time with the 36 hour days.

When i was looking through just now this post stood out to me slightly inc it does seem to be a lot of pointing out very obvious things and simply shit stirring, so right now if i had to peg anyone as Xeno, i would go for GL.

remove vote
vote Galayn Lord

yup...stating the obvious is normally a scum thing to do... as a scum player usually finds it difficult find anything decent to say in the beginning.
But in a game this convoluted....i dont really hold it against him as much as I normally would.

[Karatallid]

im not saying its concrete im just saying its probably one of the most dodgy things ive seen so far

EDIT spelling

This post has been edited by Karatallid: 05 October 2010 - 10:11 AM

[Tulas Shorn]

Karatallid, on 05 October 2010 - 10:10 AM, said:

im not saying its concrete im just saying its probably one of the most dodgy things ive seen so far

EDIT spelling

for sure.... i hate summaries myself.
Scum radar pings wildly when i see them aswell.

[D'riss]

@kalse - Barghast and rashan seem very convinced of their points of view, whereas ampelas and yourself seem more to be bouncing ideas back and forth rather than claiming your opinions are set in stone.

[Karatallid]

it wasnt so much that he made a summary it was that the people he pointed out were on very flimsy reasons and definitely comes across as trying to jump on the easy option to seem like hes doing something.

For now il keep my vote where it is, since we have plenty of time and its in no danger of being a speed lynch.

[Tapper]

19 hours have passed, so i'm assuming that...12 hours and 20 minutes left.

17 people are still alive (Alkend, Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss , Eloth, Galayn Lord, Korvalain, Kalse, Karatallid, LIosan, Meanas, Osseric, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Sukul Ankhadu, Tellan, Tulas Shorn)

takes 9 votes to lynch, 0r 9 to go to night

1 vote for Liosan (Olar Ethil)
1 vote for Alkend (Korvalain)
1 vote for Osseric (Liosan)
1 vote for Korvalain (Tellan)
1 vote for Galayn Lord (Karatallid)

Most people (12) have not voted (Alkend, Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss , Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kalse, Meanas, Osseric, Rashan, Sukul Ankhadu, Tulas Shorn)

[Olar Ethil]

Here and going to read up

[Tellan]

I will be gone for the better part of the next 6 hours.

remove vote

I'm not seeing any catastrophic screw ups worth keeping a vote on at this point.

[Path-Shaper]

19 hours have passed, so i'm assuming that...9 hours and 45 minutes left.

17 people are still alive (Alkend, Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss , Eloth, Galayn Lord, Korvalain, Kalse, Karatallid, LIosan, Meanas, Osseric, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Sukul Ankhadu, Tellan, Tulas Shorn)

takes 9 votes to lynch, 0r 9 to go to night

1 vote for Liosan (Olar Ethil)
1 vote for Alkend (Korvalain)
1 vote for Osseric (Liosan)
1 vote for Galayn Lord (Karatallid)

Most people (12) have not voted (Alkend, Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss , Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kalse, Meanas, Osseric, Rashan, Sukul Ankhadu, Tellan, Tulas Shorn)

[Ampelas]

@ D'riss - My thoughts aren't set in stone, I'm trying to figure out what is likely to be going on.

After a bit of wiki'ing, I agree that Tyrannid are likely to be a cult if there is one. i think we should be working on the assumption that cult and FMs are both in play, since it seems very likely that they are. i'm undecided though whether the Necrons would be a small, hard to kill faction, or a faction more similar to town since they have the same win conditions. From what I have read the necron sound pretty badass, which implies a small, powerful faction. If that is the case I am wary of the people who have said the necron should be considered allies of a kind. Any faction that can eliminate everyone based with only two or three starting players will be insanely powerful late in the game unless they have lost a member or two through the game.

vote Bargast

He has downplayed the threat of the necros a couple of times. I realise the tyrannids are probably the biggest threat since cults almost always are, but the way Bargats has been talking about semi alliances and viewing the necrons as the least threat to town makes me think he likely is one.

[Olar Ethil]

Caught up at work and based on the 2 "serious" cases that I read (bargy and GL) I am leaning more towards the GL case. He does seemas if he is trying to be helpful, without really giving his own opinions. Really just regurgitating what had already been said on thread. I would have no problem going with a GL vote. But for now I am leaving my vote where it is, as I think liosan backing down both times I called him on his aggressive behavior was extremely scummy.

[Tulas Shorn]

Ampelas, on 05 October 2010 - 01:46 PM, said:

@ D'riss - My thoughts aren't set in stone, I'm trying to figure out what is likely to be going on.

After a bit of wiki'ing, I agree that Tyrannid are likely to be a cult if there is one. i think we should be working on the assumption that cult and FMs are both in play, since it seems very likely that they are. i'm undecided though whether the Necrons would be a small, hard to kill faction, or a faction more similar to town since they have the same win conditions. From what I have read the necron sound pretty badass, which implies a small, powerful faction. If that is the case I am wary of the people who have said the necron should be considered allies of a kind. Any faction that can eliminate everyone based with only two or three starting players will be insanely powerful late in the game unless they have lost a member or two through the game.

vote Bargast

He has downplayed the threat of the necros a couple of times. I realise the tyrannids are probably the biggest threat since cults almost always are, but the way Bargats has been talking about semi alliances and viewing the necrons as the least threat to town makes me think he likely is one.

Necro seems to be the simple killer faction looking at their winning conditions.
They might be a small powerful group or a larger less powerfull one. but in the end they still they have similar winning conditions to Town regardless.
Im not sure it has to be one or the other? both work fine together as possibilties.

Anyways, i understand why some people say they can be considered allies to start off with because they have to kill the other nastys just as badly as what town does.
And if they kill town instead of the others then they are just helping other factions.
makes a certain amount of sense to me.

[Liosan]

Olar Ethil, on 05 October 2010 - 02:08 PM, said:

Caught up at work and based on the 2 "serious" cases that I read (bargy and GL) I am leaning more towards the GL case. He does seemas if he is trying to be helpful, without really giving his own opinions. Really just regurgitating what had already been said on thread. I would have no problem going with a GL vote. But for now I am leaving my vote where it is, as I think liosan backing down both times I called him on his aggressive behavior was extremely scummy.

When did I back down? I haven't backed down from anything that I have said all game. Kindly point out the quote or remove your baseless accusation. I don't mind a vote based on some perceived scummyness but don't try to attempt to lay a foundation for later. That is what it looked like Osseric was doing which is why I voted for him. It is easy to get away with a sly comment not backed up by anything at all on day one then come back to that sly comment in a day or two to get a lynch. I have seen that type of behavior from scum before and am on the look out for it here.

GL's summary does seem to look like a scum who is trying to stretch just far enough to be helpful but not far enough to get into trouble.

[D'riss]

@amp - Not sure what you mean as I said that you and kalse are bouncing ideas while barghast and rashan seemed to have more solid ideas of what is happening and seemed less keen to discuss. As far as voting barghast goes, i can see your reasoning, and i also feel he has some strong opinions on the setup, but with silanah already taken out today i am more inclined to wait and let day time out rather than risk us losing another town player on day 1. A voting pattern can of course give us info aswell, but I am yet to see something compelling enough for me to risk a vote in a faction game.

[Olar Ethil]

Liosan, on 04 October 2010 - 03:38 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 04 October 2010 - 02:31 PM, said:

From the Records of Ordo Malleus, report number 62347921-THY67897Confusion about the chain of command has ensued throughout the ranks of the relief force. Several elements of the marine squads were out of hand. Order has been restored through the summary execution of a marine according to the standard protocol of the Imperial Guard, order and discipline has been maintained. I sent in a squad of the Imperial Guard to retrieve the body. Tissue samples have been analysed by trusted Apothecaries of the garrisson. The Marine has been confirmed to be standard Raven Guard gene stock.Silanah is dead. He was a Space MarineFor the Emperor!

WTF!!! I am going to assume that this wasn't a Modkill. Because to do otherwise is fucking stupid. In a game this complex is very possible that there is a character who can day kill. To day kill right off the bat is bonkers but still possible.

Olar Ethil, on 04 October 2010 - 03:40 PM, said:

* thinks Liosan is over reacting(by saying to think it was something other than a day kill is fucking stupid, but saying that the person who may have used the day kill was just "bonkers")I would switch those, but thats just me.

Liosan, on 04 October 2010 - 04:01 PM, said:

No I think that my prose is correct. However I will agree that I should have separated the two ideas more.

Here was the first time. First post very angry. Note the capital wtf and exclamation points. As well as the uses of the words stupid and bonkers.

I say you are over reacting and you "calm down".

That's once. This is difficult to do on my phone so give me a second to get the other instance.

[Olar Ethil]

Liosan, on 04 October 2010 - 07:06 PM, said:

Osseric, on 04 October 2010 - 06:47 PM, said:

Liosan, on 04 October 2010 - 06:17 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 04 October 2010 - 05:51 PM, said:

waves at acesn8s who is reading the game thread.

You should pm Path-Shaper and get the spoiler password so you can see who did what and when.

The thread is expired.

Remove Vote
Vote Liosan

for being a prose face to everyone.

no?

Ahhh. You are obviously a scum killer.

Vote Osseric

For being a scum.

You quote Olar and then vote me. You need to lay off that purple drank my friend. It's going to your head.

Wait are you saying that I am not being logical. Cause that hurts. I will have you know that I am the most logical person who is talking to myself right now.

Also Chapelle is seriously the shit.

Then you quote me. Vote Osseric (who you made a strong argument against.) Get called on it by Osseric. And go into "joke" mode. Which to me is backing down.

[Rashan]

D, on 05 October 2010 - 10:34 AM, said:

@kalse - Barghast and rashan seem very convinced of their points of view, whereas ampelas and yourself seem more to be bouncing ideas back and forth rather than claiming your opinions are set in stone.

To be honest, there weren't a whole lot of people posting when I was, tough to bounce ideas off each other when they aren't there.

As to the two cases, Barghasts main point seems to me to be that we can't treat this as a normal town vs scum game. I agree to that, eve moreso if Amps assertion that we may only be starting with 6 town is even close to correct. I hadn't really conisdered that option, but do think it more likely that the necrons are a couple of powerful killers than a second large faction.

The post by GL really does stick out. I would like to take the time ro reread and comment on a few things prior to voting, but I am running late already so both will be later today. I should be back before the lynch if I have the timing of it right.

[Tulas Shorn]

well im outa here... i dont see anything decent enough to place my vote on.
the two cases are neither here nor there for me.

cioa

[Korvalain]

well im back, time to stop with the joke votes with little or no reasoning so

Remove vote

i think all this necro love is a bit strange, does seam to be symping a little but if we go on the assumption that necros cant cult, and are relativly small, we can proberly afford to w8 for them to show themselves

but if they are so small it seems wierd that so many are symping...they cant all be necrons, or the necrons would be way to powerfull and we would have to start killing them right away before they blow everyone else up...

ive got another 6 hours at work where i can regularly check up on the thread so i think ill just sit back with my vote for now, theres so many players left and so many abilitys that tonights probs gonna be a blood bath, hopefully we will have enough info 2mo to start lynching more discrimintly....

[Liosan]

Olar Ethil, on 05 October 2010 - 03:04 PM, said:

Liosan, on 04 October 2010 - 07:06 PM, said:

Osseric, on 04 October 2010 - 06:47 PM, said:

Liosan, on 04 October 2010 - 06:17 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 04 October 2010 - 05:51 PM, said:

waves at acesn8s who is reading the game thread.

You should pm Path-Shaper and get the spoiler password so you can see who did what and when.

The thread is expired.

Remove Vote
Vote Liosan

for being a prose face to everyone.

no?

Ahhh. You are obviously a scum killer.

Vote Osseric

For being a scum.

You quote Olar and then vote me. You need to lay off that purple drank my friend. It's going to your head.

Wait are you saying that I am not being logical. Cause that hurts. I will have you know that I am the most logical person who is talking to myself right now.

Also Chapelle is seriously the shit.

Then you quote me. Vote Osseric (who you made a strong argument against.) Get called on it by Osseric. And go into "joke" mode. Which to me is backing down.

To you both of those my seem like you are calling me out and I am backing down but they are nothing of the kind. As you can see by looking at the posting times there is time in between the posts. Your posts have absolutely less then nothing to do with mine or how I am reacting and playing the game. It is like me saying that somewhere on this planet it will rain tomorrow. It will be true, but one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. There for I deny your attempt to be my master.