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Towers of Midnight Prologue, chapter 1, chapter 8, and 2 reviews

#81 User is offline   Tattersail_ 

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Posted 16 November 2010 - 10:06 AM

did anyone think loial might feature? it seemed that way before i read it.
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 10:11 AM

The prologue is probably going to be relevant to A Memory of Light.

Also, Rand's "kill 'em all and the Dark One will sort 'em out" was also witnessed earlier (WH? CoT?) when he remembered the Death Gates, plus he also has now gone full "Chosen One" in Randland.
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 10:38 AM

I think the change was too abrupt but I always figured that this was how Rand would end up. I have been wanting him to turn the land green for ages. He has always been a truly epic heroic character from the very beggining. Killing forsaken, defeating the Seanchan, founding the black tower becoming not just the dragon but the coramoor and car'a'carn.

I dont see him as the chosen one of the light though. Rather I think Rand has and always will be the lynchpin on which the battle between the light and the shadow is fought. He seems to have the potential to be the champion of either side and I think this is the secret that the game moridin plays passes down through the ages. I think he was called the fischer peice.
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 10:57 AM

That's obvious and has been for the past 10 years that the Shadow was playing towards turning him Dark. Point being, suddenly turning the land fertile and actually making the skies less cloudy and more sunny is nothing if not "chosen one" like. I didn't mean it in a literal sense, but a literary sense.
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 11:40 AM

I was just meaning that it does not make his powers too over the top. He turns the land green now but before his very presence made the food in Arad doman rot even faster then elsewhere. He is not a person he is a force that the pattern revolves around. In many ways he cant even take credit for his success since in many ways it is pre-ordained.

Also while I agree that it was obvious the issue seems a little slipperier that that. When Moridin claimed to be the counterpart of the dragon but for the shadow, RJ in an interview replied to a fan 'and you believed him?!'. However I have also read an interview with Sandserosn when he does imply Moridin has had a role to play in many turnings of the wheel. I perosnally like to think of Rand as the lynchpin and morridin as just insane.

Edit- I wonder if we will ever learn who Rand is. Why is he so impportant to the pattern. Did the creator make him especially, did his soul volunteer, was he the first man to stand up to the shadow? Would be sorta interesteting.

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Posted 16 November 2010 - 11:51 AM

Rand is the lynchpin, and Ishamael knows that, and I would think any WoT hardcore fan would agree with that. Ishamael was important for 3,000 years of Randland history, considering he was both slightly outside and inside the original "Seal", which allowed him to influence events while everyone else was sealed (like the Trolloc Wars). He figured out the pattern enough to gamble that eventually one of the Dragon's would snap under the pressure, at which point, the Shadow wins for all time (briefly).
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Posted 17 November 2010 - 12:46 PM

Before I forget what happened to the legion of the dragon? Also will Shara ever play a role in the story. Only one book left but it seems odd that a third of the world should be so thoroughly ignored.
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Posted 17 November 2010 - 01:14 PM

Yo Terez, here's an obscure question for you: What happened to Fearil?
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Posted 17 November 2010 - 01:19 PM

View PostIlluyankas, on 17 November 2010 - 01:14 PM, said:

Yo Terez, here's an obscure question for you: What happened to Fearil?

Brandon probably forgot about him. Though I suppose there is a possibility that Elza sent him off on some errand or something.

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