[Silencer]

Jah. I want the DMR one, though. But then I need to get Bungie Pro. And, moreover, that makes the DMR kinda 'lame' as a nameplate flair. If it was for something cooler, then I'd definitely use it, but despite being one of the cooler icons, it is for something that is both fairly common and kinda silly, thus ruining its coolness.

[HiddenOne]

You guys are giving me a terrible jones for Halo action. ARRGGGH

[Obdigore]

Silencer, on 15 September 2010 - 10:25 PM, said:

Obdigore, on 15 September 2010 - 05:23 PM, said:

Purchased. Spent a bit of time with the GF on Co-Op Campaign. It was ok. The new armor abilities are interesting.

Spent some more time in Multiplayer, it is also ok. I dislike emptying a full clip into someone, then having them kill me in 1 hit with an energy sword. I also dislike the fact that my first game was marred by a modder. We were playing Squad DM (or w/e it is called in halo) and we were in a snipers-only lobby. He was bunnyhopping around, and even if he wasn't facing you, every time he hipfired his weapon, it was an instant headshot. Every single one of his kills (43 in a to 50 match) was a headshot. I managed to hit him thrice with a sniper rifle, without him dying.

Other than the ginormous health everyone has with the starting weapons, and somehow the shotty from next to someone isn't an instant kill, I am still trying to get used to the game.

'quickscoping' is way too easy, especially in a snipers lobby. if you have a large TV, there is never, ever, any point to zooming in. Just put the center redicule on them, pull the trigger, and it is a kill.

I like the armor abilities, especially the hologram (spartan) and the slide or dodge or w/e it is for the Elites.

I changed the controls to be more COD-like (or any other FPS - default trigger is shoulder button, wtf?) and I do love doing the sticky grenades since people move slower than in COD and you can take the time to line up the shot.

Halo:Reach, Fable 3, Fallout: Vegas, and (hopefully) COD:BO makes it an exciting season once more.

The point is, Obdi...you shouldn't let a guy with an Energy Sword get that close, and if he is taking more than a whole clip to kill you're using the wrong weapon for the range. You *need* to be careful about the guns you're using in this one. For example, using a DMR in tight spaces? Yeah, that guy with the pistol is going to pwn your ass (if he's any good).

Shotgun is an instant kill on anyone from two steps or so away. You're not using it right, or you're playing a custom game, because it is VERY rare that I don't get a kill with 6 shots from the DMR (which really is not a lot of health...well, most of it is shield, actually) or put someone down with a shotgun to the face. And just be prepared to melee in case you don't put them down with one.

As for the 'modder' - you should report him and submit the saved film as proof. Plus, sniper takes a headshot to put someone down, and the new reticule bloom means you may have thought all three shots landed when you actually missed with the second two. Lag could also have been involved. And how can you tell if he hipfired? There is no scoping in animation - the MJOLNIR suit the Spartan's wear is smartlinked to the scope, so you don't have to hold it up to your face. (Oh, and if the three shots were wide apart...energy shields recharge, bro XD)

I'm not sure what you mean about the large TV thing, either. I find it a lot harder than that on most maps. :S Maybe I just haven't played enough, lol.


Anyway, I'm sensing you come from the CoD side of the field, Obdi...where energy shields don't exist and everything is one-or-two-shots to the head to kill. Couple of things to do about this - start thinking more like 'pop shields then kill' rather than 'oh fuck this guy has 10,000 health', and also go and play Team SWAT. No shields. Very low health. One headshot kills.


Oh yeah, RE: Hologram. I have found it is useless in open maps. Very easy to tell if it's a hologram before the other guy can start hitting you in say...Hemorrhage. On the other hand, that thing is fucking deadly in close quarters: one, it doesn't show up on the motion tracker, so you get all 'OH FUCK ENERGY SWORD WHERE DID HE COME FROM' for a second sometimes. But secondly, it allows the enemy player to hide behind it, using it, basically, as a meat shield. Some peeps picked that up quick, and it works quite well until the other team starts expecting it (one of my best games was on Countdown...think that's the name...Sabre launch faciility - we went 50-48, and not only was I best player on my team with 18 kills, and a k/d of +5, but I got the First Strike AND the game-ending kill. LOL...but it is where some guys first started using holograms as shields and in close spaces.....very clever).

Anyway, far too soon after waking up for me to be posting this, lol. Got a test this evening as well...damn...no Reach for me today.


Anyway, stick at it Obdi...I'm sure you'll get used to it. It's a huge change from 'first sight kill' games like MW2, and even quite a bit of a leap from the past Halo games.

@Stalker - I'll be playing tomorrow from around this post's time, to around when you saw me yesterday. So if you're on during that time period, we'll probably catch each other for a game.
Obdi...you can join too if you're on at the right time. XD

1) I started with Halo1 - and am more than overjoyed they brought the pistol zoom back.
2) Because he was bunny hopping and spinning in circles. When there are 3 guys around him shooting at him and he spins and goes bang bang bang while jumping and all 3 of us die from headshots?
3) The 3 shots were not spaced far apart, as fast as I could bring the reticule on his head and shoot. Maybe I missed his head (although I don't think I did) but his shields flared each time as if I was hitting.
4) I played some SWAT last night. I rock at that game because I can actually AIM. I wish there was infinite health and 1-shot headshot kills. I always got my streaks stopped because I would take a shot or two when I am mowing down their team running in twos and threes, and eventually these piddly little shots would kill me.
5) Heroic is easier than I remember, just takes a bit of time.

[Beezulbubba]

I think I am going to take the Halo: Reach plunge this weekend.

I anticipate I will be experiencing a whole lotta this



By the way, has anyone noticed how many high (stoned) kids are on Xbox Live? It's absurd. I played a session of Red Dead Redemption free roam last night and everyone who had a mic was some stoned kid.

[Silencer]

Obdigore, on 16 September 2010 - 01:20 PM, said:

1) I started with Halo1 - and am more than overjoyed they brought the pistol zoom back.
2) Because he was bunny hopping and spinning in circles. When there are 3 guys around him shooting at him and he spins and goes bang bang bang while jumping and all 3 of us die from headshots?
3) The 3 shots were not spaced far apart, as fast as I could bring the reticule on his head and shoot. Maybe I missed his head (although I don't think I did) but his shields flared each time as if I was hitting.
4) I played some SWAT last night. I rock at that game because I can actually AIM. I wish there was infinite health and 1-shot headshot kills. I always got my streaks stopped because I would take a shot or two when I am mowing down their team running in twos and threes, and eventually these piddly little shots would kill me.
5) Heroic is easier than I remember, just takes a bit of time.

Haha, fair does, Obdi. Definitely sounds like he was haxxing, but you should have just reported him.

And yes, thought you might enjoy the SWAT. XD

Heroic is quite easy, I agree. Legendary is kind of a slog, but even it's not so bad once you get onto it. Ah well.

[Sixty]

Legendary is brutal if you're me and try to kill everything without any prior knowledge of how the level works.

I watched a video of some guy completing a level I had finished and he skipped an entire section that took me a good half hour by running around the outside of the hallway on a ledge, and none of the 50+ guys I had to kill even spawned. Fucking lame.

[Silencer]

So Stalker, one of my friends and I had a decent, and rather lengthy period of Reach today. Got some Firefight, Invasion and Team Object/Slayer games in.

The Firefight games both had Australian kids who sounded to be about 12, and BOTH of the games of Team Snipers we played were against, what I suspect were MLG players or haxxors. If they were MLG, we actually did quite well, so I guess no real complaints. That, or people who had been camping Team Sniper games on those maps and getting REALLY good at them. *shrug*

Every other game than those two, however, we pretty much owned the field. Oh, except for one of the Headhunter games, in which Stalker just camped out with the sniper rifle, and I got 5 of the 7 (out of 50 needed)skulls for our team. *facepalm*

Epic lulz resulted from the Aussie kids and quitting the lobby on one of them when he suggested we stick together to not have to sit through matchmaking again. Secondary lulz occurred when Stalker got booted for accidentally reversing into a team mate and killing him - wtf guy who got run over?

Crowning Moment of Glory for me was getting the highest score in a match on Powerhouse by, essentially, kill-stealing off my friend and Stalker for an entire Killing Spree (7 kills all up, I believe). It was entirely accidental.

Am I missing anything? Or misremembering? Probably. It was a good three and a half hours of play-time. XD

Anyway, had great fun...got Stalker to stick around far longer than he had first planned to, as well.

[Stalker]

Yeah, definitely a good time.

I was really mad to have been booted when I was in the middle of a Revenant fight, trying to kill the other guy, after dominating his teammates on the mongoose. The stupid teammate walked right up behind me, without me knowing, and got run over. Then booted me. That is the only time I can think of where I actually sent the kid a message telling him off.

As for team snipers, we tied the first game at 37 all (on Paridiso, waaay too big for 4v4 snipers imo) due to my last second headshot. I think I had 17 of the 37 kills. I like sniping. The other game was some very small map which also wasn't good for snipers and we were soundly defeated there. My no-scoping skills are way subpar, so during our last firefight game I attempted to no scope the entire game. Ended up with like 20 kills and more deaths haha.

Silencer was kill-stealing on more than just the one map. I had the hammer on powerhouse and would run into a group of 2-3 guys, hit them and usually kill the first guy while dropping the other guy's shields. At which point Silencer would come in, kill them, and run off.

I love rocket-firefight. Jetpacks and infinite rockets makes it awesome.

[Obdigore]

I need help finishing campaign levels 7 and 8 on heroic, as it is just much funner with people.

I should be on about 6-7 hours from this post, if anyone is going to be on tonight.

[Whisperzzzzzzz]

For EPIC LULZ:
1. Go into Forge.
2. Place a teleporter and set it to accept vehicles.
3. Place a receiver node anywhere.
4. Place a Revenant a short distance from the teleporter.
5. Get in the Revenant and boost into the teleporter.

[Silencer]

@Obdi - gah, I would be on right now, except I have but one gigabyte of data left on my cap....for NINE DAYS of usage. :S

I have to go under 100Mb's a day, basically. Unless you can assure me that doing those campaign missions take less than 40Mb...

[Cause]

One thing Im curious about but cant quite tell. If you dont have a headshot capable weapon does it make a difference shooting for the head vs say a leg or does it no longer matter at all.

Can you use holograms as shields? I thought attacks whent through?

[Obdigore]

Cause, on 20 September 2010 - 11:02 AM, said:

One thing Im curious about but cant quite tell. If you dont have a headshot capable weapon does it make a difference shooting for the head vs say a leg or does it no longer matter at all.

Can you use holograms as shields? I thought attacks whent through?

It matters.
Sight Shields, yes attacks go through. I have had someone try to assassinate my Hologram and then I assassinated them. It was lovely.

[Silencer]

Yeah, it just might hurt you more than help you, as weapons like the AR could miss more than they hit when going for the head (remember: burst fire!) if you're not a good shot, in which case increased damage per hit is kinda 'meh'. It always pays to have an accuracy-based weapon handy, however. Just in case.

[Cause]

its actually always been my thought that halo should allow you to carry three weapons. I find 2 is just not enough. Its a game where you need the right weapon for the right job but its so often to know which before hand. In my opinion you should always have your pistol plus two of whatever else.

[Silencer]

Cause, on 21 September 2010 - 08:46 AM, said:

its actually always been my thought that halo should allow you to carry three weapons. I find 2 is just not enough. Its a game where you need the right weapon for the right job but its so often to know which before hand. In my opinion you should always have your pistol plus two of whatever else.

Anyway, I'm of two minds about this: on the one hand, the pistol itself as at Halo: CE was a beast. It alone was the most devastating 'normal' weapon anyone could have in their arsenal. That changed for #'s 2 and 3, but in Reach it has come back towards its first incarnation. It is by no means a devastating hand-canon again, but in a jiffy it will beat: DMR, AR, Shotgun, Sword, Pro Pipe, Concussion Rifle, Focus Rifle, Sniper Rifle, Plasma Launcher and the Rocket Launcher.

Now, if you are too close to the guy with the AR, or get all flustered under fire, you'll lose to the AR every time. If you're calm, half the time you can win out - and that's good enough for me. The DMR is inferior to the pistol at lower-medium to close ranges, and unless the DMR guy is good and you're bad, the pistol wins in close.

Shotgun and Sword fail every time unless you're really close, or it's some Spartan vs Elites gametype where the Elite can run you down with a sword before you cap him off.

Pro Pipe is actually quite hard to use. If you're good, you'll drop a guy in one shot no questions asked - even then, only some of the time at short-med or medium ranges only. If you're not, the pistol will take you down and you'll have wasted your shots with the Pipe. It literally is really hard to use...hence 'Pro Pipe' instead of 'Noob Tuble'.

Concussion Rifle is a bitch. I honestly hate this weapon in campaign, and it can be pretty effective in multiplayer if you're not moving right. That being said, anything outside of short range, and the pistol will usually win because you can strafe a lot faster than the shots from the CR move.

The last three are fairly traditional, and power weapons to boot, which means they're highly specific. Unless you're a good no-scoper, or are close enough to body-shot then melee, pistol trumps sniper rifle at short-medium ranges. The Focus Rifle is slightly easier to get a kill with at those ranges, but usually the pistol fires fast enough to take you down (unless you miss and so run the damn short mag dry). Obviously the explosive weapons are hit-and-miss most of the time. Rockets are better - they'll take down most folk, unless there are two of them or they dodge both rockets. But then, that shortcoming features against any other weapon, making the dodging of rockets a key skill to master. XD

So, what I'm getting at is that the pistol is effective against every other weapon at short-to-medium ranges, varying on capacity. Which means if you combine it with a longer range weapon (say the DMR, Fofle, Nerfle, or even the sniper rifle) you should be covered unless you run into a shotgun, sword, or encounter a skilled player using their preferred weapon - and even then you have a decent chance. So it really fills a large void, which makes me think that (aside from it being a mess to change between three weapons) the addition of another gun would make it far too easy to whore a DMR + Shotgun + Pistol. That combo would make you nigh invincible.

The point is, if you've only got a pistol and an AR, stay in a nice corridor, or haunt a spacious room...don't go running through an open field, atrium or other open/large space. If you have a pistol and a DMR or better, hang out in looong corridors and pop into openings onto longer spaces. Avoid cramped conditions to not get beat down by the shotgunner.

Yes, you have to 'know beforehand' what weapon to have...but if you think about it, all you need to do is be where your weapons are most effective, then you won't have that problem. The difficulty is in gaining different weapons - but that's why you have to weigh risk/reward for going after that shotgun or rocket launcher etc. That's the trick. And if people stop coming to your little ideal corner, then you have to risk a relocation. But that's what makes the game balanced. Otherwise everyone would be imba-hax all the time, and that would be...well...weird.

Er.../end miniature essay. XD

tl;dr the pistol is good enough that you don't need an additional weapon. Stick to the places your loadout is good for, rather than trying to predict what weapon you will need.

EDIT: Clearly, I'm not of two minds on this at all. :S Apologies for the weird-as formatting guys. Shit's fucked up. :S

[Obdigore]

Plasma Pistol + Punch.

works every time.

[Silencer]

Actually, that is a *really* effective combo. Only way to get around it is to stay out of lunge range, otherwise it's basically a shotgun. If you're good with it, you can make people absolutely terrified of that overcharged sound, lol.

Alternatively, plasma pistol + pistol to the head works well too if you can switch and aim fast enough. Great way to piss off the aforementioned plasma pistol+melee guy. XD

That's actually the best way to tackle elites on Legendary, too. One or two pistol shots to the head as follow-up and you can bring down anything. Works with a DMR too, ofc, it's just not as easy to use at close range.

[Cause]

Silencer I agree with what you say I think our difference of opinion comes from a different preference for our primary game tyoe. I like firefight. I constantly need three weapon types, anti shield, anti head and anti tank but I can only hold two. It can be very tricky to heashot a wraith.

Otherwise I want to ask about credits. I have been playing some campaign again and firefigh and only get 50 credits a time for finishing the match. My friend who plays with me gets thousands of credits at a time? Am I experiencing a glitch or do I need to do something special to get credits.

Legendary! How the Fuck do you manage this.

[Adjutant Stormy~]

I have to say - in multiplayer, it seems that nobody has any clue how to use the jetpack well. Or most of the armor abilities, for that matter.

I played tribes, extensively, and I actually still prefer it to Halo, but I was sooooo psyched for the armor abilities. The jetpack is a little under-powered, thrust-wise, but you wouldn't believe how many people are completely blind to anything above them. Just cut-paste Tribes tactics and you seriously catch 90% of the players off-guard.

Current favorite is rockets + jetpack. Unstoppable ambush.