[Hood's Path]

Silchas Ruin, on 18 August 2010 - 03:47 AM, said:

Galain, on 17 August 2010 - 11:37 AM, said:

Hood, on 17 August 2010 - 10:50 AM, said:

Awww yeah.

Well, you guys keep up the good work. I can apparently fuck and vote, so I'm assuming I can three-way and sleep at the same time. See you all in the morning, bright and early...

But we would you want to? Is our three-way that boring that you are going to sleep through it?

Honestly, I find the above to be the most suspicious thing in the game so far. We talk about sexytime frequently around here but three-way is a pretty big word to throw out in a game where it's not clear from the setup who the bad guys are. If HP were, for example, a symp, it may be a good clue that he knows of 2 scum masters. The Galain response could be signalling, but it would indicate that if he's the master, he has foolishly given himself away for no reason.

So if HP is scummy, I would be very stunned if Galain were, as well.

Do you have a hard-on for me or something, Silchas? Seriously, what the fuck else do I call sleeping + voting + fucking?

[Silchas Ruin]

Hard on for you? I'm pretty sure this is the only time I even mentioned you and note I didn't vote for you. I'm allowed my opinions, thank you very much, SIR.

[Hood's Path]

You're allowed opinions, of course. I'm curious as to where the hell they come from, sometimes, but even so, you seem to have focused a lot of talk around me today, that's all. No need to get uppity, PEON.

[Galain]

D, on 17 August 2010 - 05:41 PM, said:

I has arrived!

And holy shit, people are serious (or faking seriousnes on a day 1) , did everyone eat from the magic shroom?
I'm not sure what to make of Atrahal. His reasoning sounds alright, after all its better to go after the scum than the symp.
Yet seems willing to grab the game from the horns from day 1 - wifom aside, dangerous play either if inno or scum non the less.
Silchas also trying to maintain his 'cool' , Anomandaris voting for him for being a 'symp' but doesn't tell us who he is symping for though.

Anyone else missing on thread, or basically most of us are here?

vote Galain

for being the most sound case so far.

Not to be biased because this post contains a vote against me, but this is really scummy. D'riss comes in and says something snarky about us all being so serious. Then states atrahal is being pushy saying this could mean that he is scum or it could mean he is inno. Way to state the obvious without adding anything definitive thought wise.

Then with tons of time left he throws down an easy I agree vote. Screw discussion, let's just go along with the first thing that looks good. It's not like he isn't going to be around, since he posts again later.

@SR, whose vote did I follow? If you're going to drop a bunch of names for doing something suspicious, at least get them right.

@PS, I believe my vote is currently on Sorrit.

[Galain]

Silchas Ruin, on 18 August 2010 - 03:50 AM, said:

The converse to this is that if HP is clean, Galain and Sorrit suddenly look quite bad for the double team. But again, that would a very poor play, and I'm inclined to believe that the players here aren't going to make an "I agree. Vote HP," kind of mistake.

So I guess my biggest 'suspects' are HP for the 3-way comment and Olar for a weirdly phrased post. But, it's also Day 1.

I'm not sure I agree with your logic here. If HP is scum then I look very suspicious, what are the chances a joke vote on day one would actually hit scum. The fact that it's a crap way to signal doesn't really hold much water in terms of defense.

If HP is inno then my joke vote is exactly that. If I am scum, then Sorrit is the world's worst symp for his vote. Since I'm not, I have no idea what Sorrit is up to, hence my vote on him. To be honest though, D'riss is looking a tad scummier to me.

[Silchas Ruin]

HP there was already a ton of talk around you.

[Olar Ethil]

Emurlahnis, on 18 August 2010 - 12:07 AM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 17 August 2010 - 07:14 PM, said:

I can Haz Cheezburgers? Good stuff day one and the ant hill seems a bit stirred up... did we really hit something day one? I am most certainly amazed!! I can haz cheezburgers???!? The Analytical lovers each repeat the same thing every game about day one being a waste. I disaggree most orgasmically! I can haz cheezeburgers nao?!?! I think a good day one sets up a good base for our future voting. So, while me might almost never hit scum day one, it does help us down the line. I can't haz cheezeburgers??


ffffffFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To me this post smacks of signaling. Starting off his opening post with one of the opening quotes of the game and continuing it through the entire post., this is a post that I would make if I was trying to get someones attention. While I don't know who Olar is trying to signal I think that he is most definitely trying to signal someone.


Thus

Vote Olar Ethil


Editing for completeness

ummm ok. If I am signaling someone,who? I didn't even mention anyone. I was just messing around with the meme theme. Have we really gone so far as to not have fun day one?

Anyway, I don't see much in the Galain line of thinking, but my first instinct was that the D'riss post screamed of sounding involved by restating the thread. Also the fact that he dumped a pile on vote early in the game. I am going to

vote d'riss

I am out for about 8 hrs. I will be back well before lynch to weigh in and finalize my vote.

[Silchas Ruin]

I'll vote later, goin to bed now.

[Galain]

I'm also out for a bit. I've stated my case against D'riss -

remove vote
Vote D'riss

[Sorrit]

Wow.... im impressed.

I voted HP after Galain did simply because the thread was stagnant as fuck and SOMETHING had to happen. So i decided to make it happen and see what comes out of the woodwork.
I knew some people where going to have a hissy fit at my second vote and I said as much at the time which i knew could be used against me. Its obvious really.
But i wanted to see who where the ones that would initially balk but hesitate and think about it properly and who where the ones that where obviously fishing for any old "mistake" and going gung-ho for me trying to get the easy lynch.

I felt that the scum more than most would be looking for any silly "mistake" made by inno's to push so i made a little one...on purpose.

So i would like to see one of the guys who jumped onto me without thinking or questioning themselves go today as its clearly someone who does not feel the need to really think anything through.
Scum dont care who gets lynched....they see anything that looks even slightly funny and they will twist it to their liking.
Inno's on the other hand will always have self doubt and will question their own thinking as well as their suspects actions.

Vote Atrahal

Guy clearly reacted big time on to something that is not even close to being real evidence.

[Sorrit]

Galain, on 18 August 2010 - 04:23 AM, said:

D, on 17 August 2010 - 05:41 PM, said:

I has arrived!

And holy shit, people are serious (or faking seriousnes on a day 1) , did everyone eat from the magic shroom?
I'm not sure what to make of Atrahal. His reasoning sounds alright, after all its better to go after the scum than the symp.
Yet seems willing to grab the game from the horns from day 1 - wifom aside, dangerous play either if inno or scum non the less.
Silchas also trying to maintain his 'cool' , Anomandaris voting for him for being a 'symp' but doesn't tell us who he is symping for though.

Anyone else missing on thread, or basically most of us are here?

vote Galain

for being the most sound case so far.

Not to be biased because this post contains a vote against me, but this is really scummy. D'riss comes in and says something snarky about us all being so serious. Then states atrahal is being pushy saying this could mean that he is scum or it could mean he is inno. Way to state the obvious without adding anything definitive thought wise.

Then with tons of time left he throws down an easy I agree vote. Screw discussion, let's just go along with the first thing that looks good. It's not like he isn't going to be around, since he posts again later.

@SR, whose vote did I follow? If you're going to drop a bunch of names for doing something suspicious, at least get them right.

@PS, I believe my vote is currently on Sorrit.

This does sound like a bit of a double standard type of vote to me.
Would like to hear from him.
Pretty much amounts to someone who is just voting for what he sees as the most likely lynch for the day.
Which is typically what scum want to do.

[Kessobahn]

driss n that post mentions three players and then drops an agreement vote without mentioning the galain case. If you have opinions early on day 1 and voice them, why not vote for one of the players you are talking about? Stranger still is to discuss them and then vote without mentioning who you are voting for. Also dont like talk about wondering who has posted, sounds like waiting for modkills or you are waiting for a signal and dont think you have seen it yet.

D, on 17 August 2010 - 05:41 PM, said:

I has arrived!

And holy shit, people are serious (or faking seriousnes on a day 1) , did everyone eat from the magic shroom?
I'm not sure what to make of Atrahal. His reasoning sounds alright, after all its better to go after the scum than the symp.
Yet seems willing to grab the game from the horns from day 1 - wifom aside, dangerous play either if inno or scum non the less.
Silchas also trying to maintain his 'cool' , Anomandaris voting for him for being a 'symp' but doesn't tell us who he is symping for though.

Anyone else missing on thread, or basically most of us are here?

vote Galain

for being the most sound case so far.

[Sorrit]

I could go for D'riss.

The thing is... i think i know who this player is and if i am right then its the same player who always just lists what has been going on whilst he was gone for his own benifit.
I have always found him scummy because of the way he plays as it looks like he always is trying to seem helpful.

But that is besides the point here i think....as his vote does really not correlate to his own listing of important events.

meh...im not sure.

I like my atrahal vote...I expect him to get super pissed and explode at me when he comes back wich should be revealing all in itself.
But i am willing to change to D'riss if need be..
There is time still...no?
10 hours or so by my count?

[Kessobahn]

its possible that driss is really covering for one of the three he mentions and atrahal just happens to be the first he talks about.

[Hood's Path]

Hrm, action, votes, discussion! Oh the glory of it all.

I honestly think that the case against D'riss is quite worthy, and it's got a bit of momentum now with the time left. But at the same time...laying a trap, Sorrit? That's an interesting play on day one - though I appreciate your position of trying to cover your actions and then people calling you on it later - and something that's highly likely to be either a scum tactic when they get called on something, or a rather pointless inno play, isn't it? I mean, what are you going to bring out: people who jump on a day one train. Wooo, like that's not going to get some bites. Alternatively, you're going to get jumped on for ass-covering and follow-up votes (basically what you were hoping to catch other people on) and then claim you were laying a trap to get out of your train-pushing. Bad play, Sorrit.

[Sorrit]

Hood, on 18 August 2010 - 08:29 AM, said:

Hrm, action, votes, discussion! Oh the glory of it all.

I honestly think that the case against D'riss is quite worthy, and it's got a bit of momentum now with the time left. But at the same time...laying a trap, Sorrit? That's an interesting play on day one - though I appreciate your position of trying to cover your actions and then people calling you on it later - and something that's highly likely to be either a scum tactic when they get called on something, or a rather pointless inno play, isn't it? I mean, what are you going to bring out: people who jump on a day one train. Wooo, like that's not going to get some bites. Alternatively, you're going to get jumped on for ass-covering and follow-up votes (basically what you were hoping to catch other people on) and then claim you were laying a trap to get out of your train-pushing. Bad play, Sorrit.

Yes HP, i purposefully put a second vote on someone to elicit some sort of thread reaction so i could get a better read on players. I even hinted as much in that very post.
Laying a trap?....no not really. More like laying the foundations to get some sort of info. I was not setting out to TRAP, i was setting out to see how people reacted.
I didnt expect such a huge reaction...but yea.


The thread was dead. I wanted to make something happen and see who would actually think things through and who would jump at the opportunity.
"Bad play"?... for you maybe it is but for myself...no...i get a feel for the players.
You on the other hand are standing on the outside with no reference so cant judge my play...sorry.

Its not fool proof by any means, but it DID get the thread going and there WAS people who jumped at the opportunity and there was others that were cautious.
Its very revealing...well, to me its revealing at least. Its up to you weather you believe me or not.
I could just as easily done sweet fuckall and watched everyone settle for a random lynch.
But im trying, as always to be pro active.

I actually came out today just to explaining my actions. Not to defend myslef.
If you think i was signaling somehow then vote me or whoever i was supposed to be signaling im not going to argue the point as its WIFOM.

Was a second vote on someone THAT bad?....no not in my opinion.
But i feel that Atrahals slight over reaction to said post is a good place for me to start looking.

[Sorrit]

Kessobahn, on 18 August 2010 - 08:28 AM, said:

its possible that driss is really covering for one of the three he mentions and atrahal just happens to be the first he talks about.

Its very possible.
its your standard subtle distancing.

I would like to hear from him though.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1, 8 hours and 49 minutes remain.


12 players are left alive. Anomandaris, Atrahal, D'riss, Emurlahnis, Galain, Hood's Path, Kessobahn,
Okaros, Olar Ethil, Silchas Ruin, Sorrit, Tulas Shorn


1 vote Atrahal: Hood's Path
1 vote Hood's Path: Sorrit
1 vote Silchas Ruin: Anomandaris
2 votes Galain: Atrahal, D'riss
1 vote Olar Ethil: Emurlahnis
2 votes D'riss: Olar Ethil, Galain


Players not voted: Kessobahn, Okaros, Silchas Ruin, Tulas Shorn


Sorrit needs to remove the HP vote for his Atrahal vote to count.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 18 August 2010 - 09:20 AM

[Kessobahn]

Sorrit, on 18 August 2010 - 08:57 AM, said:

Hood, on 18 August 2010 - 08:29 AM, said:

Hrm, action, votes, discussion! Oh the glory of it all.

I honestly think that the case against D'riss is quite worthy, and it's got a bit of momentum now with the time left. But at the same time...laying a trap, Sorrit? That's an interesting play on day one - though I appreciate your position of trying to cover your actions and then people calling you on it later - and something that's highly likely to be either a scum tactic when they get called on something, or a rather pointless inno play, isn't it? I mean, what are you going to bring out: people who jump on a day one train. Wooo, like that's not going to get some bites. Alternatively, you're going to get jumped on for ass-covering and follow-up votes (basically what you were hoping to catch other people on) and then claim you were laying a trap to get out of your train-pushing. Bad play, Sorrit.

Yes HP, i purposefully put a second vote on someone to elicit some sort of thread reaction so i could get a better read on players. I even hinted as much in that very post.
Laying a trap?....no not really. More like laying the foundations to get some sort of info. I was not setting out to TRAP, i was setting out to see how people reacted.
I didnt expect such a huge reaction...but yea.


The thread was dead. I wanted to make something happen and see who would actually think things through and who would jump at the opportunity.
"Bad play"?... for you maybe it is but for myself...no...i get a feel for the players.
You on the other hand are standing on the outside with no reference so cant judge my play...sorry.

Its not fool proof by any means, but it DID get the thread going and there WAS people who jumped at the opportunity and there was others that were cautious.
Its very revealing...well, to me its revealing at least. Its up to you weather you believe me or not.
I could just as easily done sweet fuckall and watched everyone settle for a random lynch.
But im trying, as always to be pro active.

I actually came out today just to explaining my actions. Not to defend myslef.
If you think i was signaling somehow then vote me or whoever i was supposed to be signaling im not going to argue the point as its WIFOM.

Was a second vote on someone THAT bad?....no not in my opinion.
But i feel that Atrahals slight over reaction to said post is a good place for me to start looking.

I dislike people explaining things so much with out a real pressure, sorrit. Its kinda stinks of an egomanical sociopath needing attention or recognition for what they feel is a moment of genius. The fact that you are conducting your play with such machavelian style indicates a hidden motive. You say its not a trap, but when atrahal responded you did say "atrahal did bite" which implies it was a trap or at least a hook. It is still day 1, and over explanation this early is not something i would expect from an inno. In fact your long post to hp almost reads like gloating, and indicating your own play as wifom is also just another tactic you seem intent on employing to muddle the waters.

[Sorrit]

Kessobahn, on 18 August 2010 - 09:26 AM, said:

I dislike people explaining things so much with out a real pressure, sorrit. Its kinda stinks of an egomanical sociopath needing attention or recognition for what they feel is a moment of genius. The fact that you are conducting your play with such machavelian style indicates a hidden motive.

Ughhh.....should i, or should i not explain myself when quite a few people were clearly confused by my actions?
You want me to keep being cryptic?
You are now damning me no matter what i do. And i dont like where you are heading with this. Use your head man.
If i explain, im an "egomaniac with a hidden agenda", if i shut up...then what?...i am scum?
Fuck offffff.

Kessobahn, on 18 August 2010 - 09:26 AM, said:

You say its not a trap, but when atrahal responded you did say "atrahal did bite" which implies it was a trap or at least a hook.

no....i said i was going home...and i was disappointed that i didnt get much of reaction on thread from my post, except atrahal who "bit"
But not by much. Only after that did Atrahal go into more depth and made an even bigger post, clearly not grasping what i had tried to do.

My reference to "byte" was not to trap any particular person but to hook the entire thread into ACTION!
Now get off your high fucking horse....and either vote for me or fuck off , seriously your going to just piss me off and start a needles pissing match.
I HAVE explained myself now get over it.
Either you fucking believe me, or you dont. I am not going to waste my time arguing a point wich i can not prove one way or the other.
We are going to end up repeating the same things over and over!

Kessobahn, on 18 August 2010 - 09:26 AM, said:

It is still day 1, and over explanation this early is not something i would expect from an inno. In fact your long post to hp almost reads like gloating, and indicating your own play as wifom is also just another tactic you seem intent on employing to muddle the waters.

THEN VOTE FOR ME!!

I was explaining because there was some confusion as to why i did what i did, even after i flet i made it pretty clear what i was doing.
I assumed my "bite" statement would be enough to show the thread that i was merely trying to get things going and make people talk.
Obviously i was asking too much of you lot.




edit - for some reason i thought i was answering HP again it ...erm...ooops

This post has been edited by Sorrit: 18 August 2010 - 09:48 AM