Fake symping is a possibility, Galain, though it's a tactic I don't think we see work too often.
Sorrit, you claim Atrahal's earlier 'over-reaction' to your post is a prime reason for voting, and yet...look at yourself. You've posted how much in response to a few questions? You almost immediately became exasperated when I pointed out the flaws in your logic, without responding to those flaws except to get angry and accuse me of not understanding. You then go on to post that you're not baiting anyone
specific, as if attempting to draw in the entire thread is somehow different?
Look:
Sorrit, on 18 August 2010 - 08:57 AM, said:
Yes HP, i purposefully put a second vote on someone to elicit some sort of thread reaction so i could get a better read on players. I even hinted as much in that very post.
Laying a trap?....no not really. More like laying the foundations to get some sort of info. I was not setting out to TRAP, i was setting out to see how people reacted.
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The thread was dead. I wanted to make something happen and see who would actually think things through and who would jump at the opportunity.
"Bad play"?... for you maybe it is but for myself...no...i get a feel for the players.
You on the other hand are standing on the outside with no reference so cant judge my play...sorry.
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If you think i was signaling somehow then vote me or whoever i was supposed to be signaling im not going to argue the point as its WIFOM.
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Was a second vote on someone THAT bad?....no not in my opinion.
But i feel that Atrahals slight over reaction to said post is a good place for me to start looking.
So, you did try to try to get people to react, to then move on those reactions. That, my friend, is a trap. With bait.
THEN, sure the thread is 'dead' - we had half a dozen of the sign-ups forewarn they'd be low-posting, and it's hardly like there was no motion on the thread at all. Once again, you say you were setting up to see who would jump at the 'opportunity' - TRAP.
I may be outside with no reference, but I can still judge your play from the effects it caused...sorry.
Signalling? Did I even *mention* the *possibilty* of signalling?
And a second vote may not have been exactly terrible (except, you know, for luring people's votes in and potentially starting a lynching train that wouldn't stop until someone is dead). As for Atrahal's slight overreaction, look what your pursuit of that has caused! It was, you say, a SLIGHT overreaction. So why were you so fussed?
Then:
Sorrit, on 18 August 2010 - 09:43 AM, said:
Ughhh.....should i, or should i not explain myself when quite a few people were clearly confused by my actions?
You want me to keep being cryptic?
You are now damning me no matter what i do. And i dont like where you are heading with this. Use your head man.
If i explain, im an "egomaniac with a hidden agenda", if i shut up...then what?...i am scum?
Fuck offffff.
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no....i said i was going home...and i was disappointed that i didnt get much of reaction on thread from my post, except atrahal who "bit"
But not by much. Only after that did Atrahal go into more depth and made an even bigger post, clearly not grasping what i had tried to do.
My reference to "byte" was not to trap any particular person but to hook the entire thread into ACTION!
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THEN VOTE FOR ME!!
I was explaining because there was some confusion as to why i did what i did, even after i flet i made it pretty clear what i was doing.
I assumed my "bite" statement would be enough to show the thread that i was merely trying to get things going and make people talk.
Obviously i was asking too much of you lot.
edit - for some reason i thought i was answering HP again it ...erm...ooops
Yes, it's a serious flaw of mafia here that, no matter what someone does, it can be cast in a negative light. Think we've all been in that situation before - I know I have. Get over it.
Clearly, Atrahal and HALF THE THREAD failed to grasp what you tried to do. And yet, what is clearly a trap, you deny it to be so. Even your terminology, which you defend here, is that of baiting and catching. Then you try and play spin-doctor in retrospect. I'd say to be more careful with your choice of words, but that'd probably seem condescending and twattish...
Also, everyone please note he thought I was still having a go at him here, hence the tone...
Sorrit, on 18 August 2010 - 09:54 AM, said:
well....as much as i like all the attention, i am inno.
And as an inno would not be doing the game any justice by just sitting back and doing nothing.
Im trying my damnedest to get the game going but now i think that i am maybe becoming more of a distraction.
Atrahal is here and im sure we are going to see soem bricks being shat shortly.
You guys really do make such big issues out of non issues lately dont you...sheesh
So, once the thread starts gearing up against you, it's a bad thing because it's a distraction. Sure, as an inno sitting back and doing nothing is bad play, but as you yourself point out, making BAD PLAYS like laying traps fucks everyone over more, because we get mired down in this bullshit distraction.
As for making big issues out of little ones, yeah, we tend to do that. But wait, further up the thread you hammered home the point about Atrahal's original response being only SLIGHTLY over-the-top, and yet you pursued that? Mafia's a great game for hypocrisy, but maaan...
I'd quote the rest of your posts, but to be honest they come so thick and fast, repeating the same thing over and over again - we're taking it too seriously, we misread your actions, it wasn't a malevolent trap, oh, and we don't understand, but we should try to and just let you get on with handing us scum on a plate on day one because you didn't trap anyone but you have something to go on from your non-trap and omg why won't we just fucking understand you were trying to help and accept everything you were telling us without questioning you or cross-examing your actions???!?!?!?!?!?!11 - that I honestly can't be bothered cutting each one up and responding, because then I'd just repeat myself.
And, to take your advice, though given in the heat of anger and frustration, I will now:
Remove Vote,
Vote Sorrit
because this shit is not going to go away any time soon, and it's late and I'm sick of reading your long, repetitive posts which really contribute nothing to your case - after all, since you got so thoroughly distracted responding to me, Kessoh and Atrahal, you've pretty much stopped talking about anything else - and only lead to my further inability to see this going anywhere other than into day two after we lynch some other potential candidate.
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