Who/what is d'rek? SPOILERS all books with worm issues
#1
Posted 24 July 2010 - 05:27 PM
I never found any topics on this god through the search.
What's everyone's interpretation of D'rek, the worm that gnaws at the heart of the world? What does this mean? What do his/her priests do? What warren is he/she master of? Either I missed the info given, or SE never gave any in the first place?
What's everyone's interpretation of D'rek, the worm that gnaws at the heart of the world? What does this mean? What do his/her priests do? What warren is he/she master of? Either I missed the info given, or SE never gave any in the first place?
Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath,
to spit in Sightblinders eye on the last day.
May you shelter in the palm of the Creator"s hand, and may the last embrace of the Mother welcome you home.
to spit in Sightblinders eye on the last day.
May you shelter in the palm of the Creator"s hand, and may the last embrace of the Mother welcome you home.
#2
Posted 24 July 2010 - 06:14 PM
I tend to think of D'rek as similar to Nidhögg from norse mythology, the dragon/serpent that gnaws at the roots of Yggdrasil (the world tree) and will eventually help to start Ragnarök.
What I remember about D'rek is that she/he/it is associated with autumn and decay, and that atleast some of the rituals dedicated to D'rek seemed to involve crippling and killing of animals, and generally just seriously unplesant. (Doesn't Banaschar mention something about it at one point?)
Either way D'rek got seriously upset about something a while ago and ended up killing of all the priests and such.
What I remember about D'rek is that she/he/it is associated with autumn and decay, and that atleast some of the rituals dedicated to D'rek seemed to involve crippling and killing of animals, and generally just seriously unplesant. (Doesn't Banaschar mention something about it at one point?)
Either way D'rek got seriously upset about something a while ago and ended up killing of all the priests and such.
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#3
Posted 24 July 2010 - 07:08 PM
I think of D'rek as the antithesis of Burn. I could be way off though. There's not much information about D'rek himself (pretty sure D'rek is described as a he by banaschar).
This post has been edited by Rooster: 24 July 2010 - 07:09 PM
#4
Posted 24 July 2010 - 09:59 PM
D'rek is the god aspected to decay. Therefore I view her aspect as midway between Death and Earth
Tayschrenn (who was a highpriest of D'rek once) said something about the acceptance of Death
Tayschrenn (who was a highpriest of D'rek once) said something about the acceptance of Death
...Every tale is a gift,
And the scars bourne by us both,
are easily missed,
In the distance between us.
-Fisher-
Don't be blind,
Mind,
To be kind,
For you will find,
Kindness has its own rewards,
and each must find his way to heaven
-T.D. Mengerink-
And the scars bourne by us both,
are easily missed,
In the distance between us.
-Fisher-
Don't be blind,
Mind,
To be kind,
For you will find,
Kindness has its own rewards,
and each must find his way to heaven
-T.D. Mengerink-
#5
Posted 24 July 2010 - 11:31 PM
Yeah and iirc they mention the season of d'rek or something similar, where everything rots and such
#6
Posted 24 July 2010 - 11:43 PM
Sciz, on 24 July 2010 - 11:31 PM, said:
Yeah and iirc they mention the season of d'rek or something similar, where everything rots and such
So far I've got:
1. God of decay, not to be confused with poliel, goddess of pestilence and disease
2. Killed worshippers for some vague reason
3. Worship involves inflicting suffering on others.
4. Both Banaschar and Tayschrenn used to be worshippers.
Anything else?
Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath,
to spit in Sightblinders eye on the last day.
May you shelter in the palm of the Creator"s hand, and may the last embrace of the Mother welcome you home.
to spit in Sightblinders eye on the last day.
May you shelter in the palm of the Creator"s hand, and may the last embrace of the Mother welcome you home.
#7
Posted 25 July 2010 - 02:13 AM
the reason she/he (its a worm hey? who cares what gender it is) killed their priesthood is because they demanded the power of blood, the elder way, and also, though this is less clear, because they associated with the CG or something like that. quote is in BH if anyone cares to look it up
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- Oscar Levant
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#8
Posted 25 July 2010 - 03:28 AM
Aren't some worms hermaphroditic?
They came with white hands and left with red hands.
#9
Posted 25 July 2010 - 04:21 AM
worrywort, on 25 July 2010 - 03:28 AM, said:
Aren't some worms hermaphroditic?
Is d'rek physically a worm?
Perhaps a corruption of the word wyrm....
Hm, maybe d'rek was once a simple dragon?
Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath,
to spit in Sightblinders eye on the last day.
May you shelter in the palm of the Creator"s hand, and may the last embrace of the Mother welcome you home.
to spit in Sightblinders eye on the last day.
May you shelter in the palm of the Creator"s hand, and may the last embrace of the Mother welcome you home.
#10
Posted 25 July 2010 - 04:24 AM
Aren't some dragons hermaphroditic?
They came with white hands and left with red hands.
#11
Posted 25 July 2010 - 04:27 AM
Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath,
to spit in Sightblinders eye on the last day.
May you shelter in the palm of the Creator"s hand, and may the last embrace of the Mother welcome you home.
to spit in Sightblinders eye on the last day.
May you shelter in the palm of the Creator"s hand, and may the last embrace of the Mother welcome you home.
#12
Posted 25 July 2010 - 03:02 PM
I have a vague recollection about D'rek being present in Banaschar as remarked upon by Curdle and Telorast in I think RG. Although what this means is beyond me.
#13
Posted 25 July 2010 - 04:54 PM
Yeah, it seems that D'rek is dwelling inside Banaschar's guts because he's his last priest.(Tayschrenn having given up).
This post has been edited by Bauchelain the Evil: 25 July 2010 - 04:54 PM
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#14
Posted 26 July 2010 - 04:03 PM
Didn't one of the glossaries (GotM, maybe) say D'rek and Poliel were sometimes the same?
"Here is light. You will say that it is not a living entity, but you miss the point that it is more, not less. Without occupying space, it fills the universe. It nourishes everything, yet itself feeds upon destruction. We claim to control it, but does it not perhaps cultivate us as a source of food? May it not be that all wood grows so that it can be set ablaze, and that men and women are born to kindle fires?"
―Gene Wolfe, The Citadel of the Autarch
―Gene Wolfe, The Citadel of the Autarch
#15
#16
Posted 26 July 2010 - 04:56 PM
I thought D'rek was a She. Also , I thought that she killed her preists becasue they had allied with the Crippled God....
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#17
Posted 26 July 2010 - 05:33 PM
It's said that D'rek can be both a he or a she depending on his/her followers. And yeah I also understood that he/she killed his/her priests because they had allied with the CG.
Adept of Team Quick Ben
I greet you as guests and so will not crush the life from you and devour your soul with peals of laughter. No, instead, I will make tea-Gothos
I greet you as guests and so will not crush the life from you and devour your soul with peals of laughter. No, instead, I will make tea-Gothos
#18
Posted 26 July 2010 - 10:20 PM
#19
Posted 27 July 2010 - 08:57 PM
Bauchelain the Evil, on 25 July 2010 - 04:54 PM, said:
Yeah, it seems that D'rek is dwelling inside Banaschar's guts because he's his last priest.(Tayschrenn having given up).
I just so happened to come upon this paragraph on my RG reread [from Banaschar's POV]:
The Worm of Autumn stirred in his gut; an immortal parasite and he its mortal host. The goddess was within him once more, after all these years. Again, no surprise. After all, I'm the only one left. Yet D'rek remained as no more than a presence, a faint taste on his tongue. There had been no battle of wills; but he knew it would come. The goddess needed him and sooner or later she would reach out and close a cold fist about his soul.
[p. 504 in the trade paperback]
Puck was not birthed, she was cleaved from a lava flow and shaped by a fierce god's hands. - [worry]
Ninja Puck, Ninja Puck, really doesn't give a fuck..? - [King Lear]
Ninja Puck, Ninja Puck, really doesn't give a fuck..? - [King Lear]