[polishgenius]

 Abyss, on 01 June 2010 - 08:50 PM, said:

...but then you have to include Thanos, because they are basically the same dude.

Pfft. Just a cheap pale knockoff. Darkseid killed Batman. Twice*.

In fact when the first time was undone by the JLA saving the future he decided he's not taking any of that shit and did it faster than he had done originally, that's how awesome Darkseid is.


*And took over the world and enslaved humanity and ended the concept of free will, but fuck that shit; dude killed Batman. Twice.

[Darkwatch]

In no order:

-Kallor
-Kelmomas
-The Shrike, what an ass.
-Hal9000
-Benjamin Franklin

[Illuyankas]

 polishgenius, on 01 June 2010 - 10:58 PM, said:

 Abyss, on 01 June 2010 - 08:50 PM, said:

...but then you have to include Thanos, because they are basically the same dude.

Pfft. Just a cheap pale knockoff. Darkseid killed Batman. Twice*.

In fact when the first time was undone by the JLA saving the future he decided he's not taking any of that shit and did it faster than he had done originally, that's how awesome Darkseid is.


*And took over the world and enslaved humanity and ended the concept of free will, but fuck that shit; dude killed Batman. Twice.

Thanos destroyed the universe, and then recreated it. Several times. Also, he has a space helicopter, and has fucked Death. That's how awesome Thanos is.

Darkseid sat in a chair, then was shot by Batman and sung to death by Superman. I'm not even joking. He's also been killed by Green Arrow and Atom. Robin Hood Man and Tiny Man. Honestly.

(although I always liked how Mongul is an unsuccessful ripoff of Thanos, who is a successful ripoff of Darkseid)

[Fist Gamet]

Mr Croup and Mr Vandermeer, and, by obvious extension, Goss and Subby. These guys are all nasty shits.

Obviously Kallor doing what he did (spoiler swerve moment) just to spite the Elders put him right up there in the major bad ass category.
I wouldn't have put Mael'Koth in there, I kinda sympathised with the guy in the end.

[Bauchelain the Evil]

 Abyss, on 01 June 2010 - 08:50 PM, said:

 Macros, on 01 June 2010 - 07:48 PM, said:

Black Dow - Abercrombie
...

Not so sure he belongs on the list but he IS a right bastard.

I have to agree with this. Sure Black Dow is a nasty guy who likes to kill etc bu in the end he is far better than, say, Ninefingers, who is actually one of the "heroes" of the Trilogy.

[Kanubis]

Melisande Shahrizai - wonder if anyone else will have a clue who this is?

Carcer - from Pratchett's Nightwatch.

Mallick Rel - You probably know this guy.




And yeah, nobody else to add who hasn't already been mentioned

[drinksinbars]

 Kanubis, on 02 June 2010 - 09:49 AM, said:

Melisande Shahrizai - wonder if anyone else will have a clue who this is?

Only ever read the first book kushiels dart but melisande certainly makes an impression, if i am remembering the character correctly.

This post has been edited by drinksinbars: 02 June 2010 - 09:55 AM

[Harvester]

The Wamphyri - Necroscope

Well, that's about it. Nobody comes even close.

[Tsundoku]

Couldn't really say without thinking about it for a fair while.

Nicodemus the Denarian From Jim Butcher's Dresden Files would be right up there for sheer evil, cunning, charming bastards. The sort you'd have a really interesting conversation with - if you were sure you had something that meant he couldn't go after you, or had no reason to.

I do ask people to reference their choices, either by the title(s) they appear in and/or the author.

[foolio]

sorry, couldnt resist.

[Aptorian]

Ah yes. Reminds me of that post in the Quotes thread suggesting that the two heart attacks he had was his Horcruxes being destroyed.

[foolio]

Apt, your avatar reminds me of myself heading to a buffet.

[Aptorian]

It's very goofy.

[HoosierDaddy]

Pennywise - It

The Falconer - Lies of Locke Lamora

Nicodemas - Dresden Files

Darth Vader - Die if you don't know it

Mallick Rel - SE

[foolio]

Indeed. Or it could be a coke addict with a runny nose.

[Paran]

Guys keep throwing out Black Dow - the baddest guy in that series is obviously Bayaz! The dude seriously f*ks EVERYONE over as outstandingly as possible to get what he wants!

Otherwise, Kallor is up their, Kelmomas (judging eye) is f'ing insane, I thought Uther Doul was somewhat villainous , Littlefinger is definitely bastardly. I hated Moriarty (more crime than fantasy though), Nicodemus (Dresden) always seems to be too overconfident for his own good.

[foolio]

I am probably going to get flamed for admitting that I have read these books but I though Pe Ell was a decent villain.

This post has been edited by foolio: 03 June 2010 - 06:08 PM

[The Tyrant Lizard]

 foolio, on 03 June 2010 - 06:07 PM, said:

I am probably going to get flamed for admitting that I have read these books but I though Pe Ell was a decent villain.

That rings a bell. Was he the assassin with the magic knife?

[foolio]

 The Tyrant Lizard, on 04 June 2010 - 12:13 PM, said:

 foolio, on 03 June 2010 - 06:07 PM, said:

I am probably going to get flamed for admitting that I have read these books but I though Pe Ell was a decent villain.

That rings a bell. Was he the assassin with the magic knife?

yep. The Stihl.

[Abyss]

 Darkwatch, on 01 June 2010 - 11:11 PM, said:

...-Benjamin Franklin

Sure, but his clone is awesome.
No one is going to get that reference...

 Illuyankas, on 01 June 2010 - 11:16 PM, said:

 polishgenius, on 01 June 2010 - 10:58 PM, said:

 Abyss, on 01 June 2010 - 08:50 PM, said:

...but then you have to include Thanos, because they are basically the same dude.

Pfft. Just a cheap pale knockoff. Darkseid killed Batman. Twice*.

In fact when the first time was undone by the JLA saving the future he decided he's not taking any of that shit and did it faster than he had done originally, that's how awesome Darkseid is.


*And took over the world and enslaved humanity and ended the concept of free will, but fuck that shit; dude killed Batman. Twice.

Thanos destroyed the universe, and then recreated it. Several times. Also, he has a space helicopter, and has fucked Death. That's how awesome Thanos is.

Darkseid sat in a chair, then was shot by Batman and sung to death by Superman. I'm not even joking. He's also been killed by Green Arrow and Atom. Robin Hood Man and Tiny Man. Honestly.

(although I always liked how Mongul is an unsuccessful ripoff of Thanos, who is a successful ripoff of Darkseid)

Illy said it so i don't have to.
The first was a Crowning Moment of Awesome for GA and the Atom.
The second was possibly the lamest thing Morrison has ever written.

In the otherwise generally silly Marvel vs DC LS years ago, George Perez (who else would it be) drew a half page panel of Thanos and Darkseid fighting that is SO perfect.

 Harvester, on 02 June 2010 - 10:16 AM, said:

The Wamphyri - Necroscope

Well, that's about it. Nobody comes even close.

I dunno... the Wamphyri never exactly hit heights of wild masterful planning... it's always 'show up, fuck everything in sight, create minions, fuck everything again, avoid death (usually by fucking someone), die, don't die, come back, create minions, fuck everything in sight, die'. I like Lumley's Necroscope books, but that's basically every Wamphyri he's ever written. The heroes fighting them (and trying not to get fucked and/or die) are always more interesting.

 foolio, on 04 June 2010 - 12:57 PM, said:

 The Tyrant Lizard, on 04 June 2010 - 12:13 PM, said:

 foolio, on 03 June 2010 - 06:07 PM, said:

I am probably going to get flamed for admitting that I have read these books but I though Pe Ell was a decent villain.

That rings a bell. Was he the assassin with the magic knife?

yep. The Stihl.

I'll go on record as saying that Brookes does a decent villain. They are rarely brilliant, and do tend to be just as archetypical as every other character he writes, but i liked the Changeling from ELFSTONES, the titular Morgwar was okay, the dude behind the scenes in the HEIRS series wasn't bad at all, and his monsters are always fun. And while i really don't have much good to say about his WORD/VOID trilogy, the demons were fun, esp the little girl.


I tried to think of a good villain from a GGK book and realized he doesn't really do classic villains.

Stephen King's IT was great, probably the best villain he's ever created.