[stone monkey]

It makes me wonder whether the part might have been intended, or written, for Ledger in the first place.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

He did a good job though. Who knew, that show would lead him to a big film like this.

[dktorode]

He has been tipped to play the Riddler in batman actually.

I have thought Gordon-Levitt looked like ledger for a very long time now. (aswell as having serious acting chops to back the look up)
Anyone seen Mysterious Skin?

This post has been edited by dktorode: 10 August 2010 - 08:12 AM

[Slow Ben]

Raymond Luxury Yacht, on 10 August 2010 - 07:56 AM, said:

He did a good job though. Who knew, that show would lead him to a big film like this.

Must have been his work in 10 Things I Hate About You.


Seriously though, I was skeptical about him in this movie,. I thought, Is that the fucking kid from 3rd Rock? But he pulled it off and was pretty damn good.

[Mezla PigDog]

He's been in loads of movies since 3rd Rock finished. I really like most of his stuff. I want to see 500 Days of Summer, I heard it is really good.

[QuickTidal]

Did anyone else feel like they were watching a film with young actors who would one day be Elder Hollywood elite....like Cary Grant, Spencer Tracy, Orson Welles ect...they just feel like young people hitting their prime as actors.

[Aptorian]

Yeah, especially Michael Caine.

[Cause]

I think many of you guys are being too harsh or perhaps my standards of judging are too low. Does the movie stand up to intense scrutiny after the fact. Not exactly no, but at least it was pretty internally consistent. Further, in my opinion it was a damn lot better than anything else Hollywood has released lately that I have had the misfortune to see. The production value was high, the actors did a good job I feel, the action was intense and if you take the story at face value it was very interesting. It entertained me for sure and was in my opinion a good night and very much worth its price.

One thing that disappointed me was I saw the ending coming but I thought it would go one step further. Obviously we would be stuck wondering if he is in a dream. Personally I don't think its ambiguous at all. Its there to satisfy people who need to have a happy ending and will ignore any evidence otherwise. I have a friend who after reading atonement still thinks the book has a happy ending! However right at the end when cobb spins his totem to check reality he is distracted by his children and looks away. We then see his father walk around him back from the children and into the room. I really expected him to knock over the totem representing that his subconscious wants to trick him. It no longer cares if its reality or not only that he is happy.

[dktorode]

Any 3 hour movie that makes me not look at my watch once, has got something going for it.

[maro]

Cause, on 11 August 2010 - 08:26 AM, said:

I think many of you guys are being too harsh or perhaps my standards of judging are too low. Does the movie stand up to intense scrutiny after the fact. Not exactly no, but at least it was pretty internally consistent. Further, in my opinion it was a damn lot better than anything else Hollywood has released lately that I have had the misfortune to see. The production value was high, the actors did a good job I feel, the action was intense and if you take the story at face value it was very interesting. It entertained me for sure and was in my opinion a good night and very much worth its price.

Exactly.

Everyone likes to have a pop

[caladanbrood]

Finally saw this last night, and really enjoyed it It might be a bit dodgy, continuity-wise, but overall it was very enjoyable. Good concept, very good casting, well executed. I also liked how it focussed more on the characters than the plot, yet still managed to be a good action movie.

4 and a bit stars, I reckon  

[Aptorian]

Mario Inception: http://www.dorkly.co...mario-inception

[Abyss]

Morgoth, on 05 August 2010 - 09:46 AM, said:

...Also, the suits were awesome.

SO true. Such a well dressed flic i almost had to go suit shopping after.

dktorode, on 11 August 2010 - 09:25 AM, said:

Any 3 hour movie that makes me not look at my watch once, has got something going for it.

Doubleplusyes.

[McLovin]

Saw this last weekend, really really enjoyed it. I did kinda wish they had scaled the cast back a bit - the cast was amazing but only 2-3 of them got to really explore their characters. My favorite movie of the year so far, and best I've seen since Watchmen.

[Gem Windcaster]

stone monkey, on 08 August 2010 - 10:05 PM, said:

And that is the crux of the problem with this movie for me. It so very desperately wants to be the kind of film that stands up to close scrutiny, but it so very obviously doesn't. In this respect it's actually a lot like The Matrix.

Fun, but disposable.

I doubt there has existed, exists or will exist a movie that will stand up to your close scrutiny. And if I happen to be wrong, which is never likely, it is doubly likely that it is boring as hell - and probably alot like reading the toilet parts of James Joyce Ulysses. Also, when I say that a movie like that doesn't exists, it doesn't because I say so. Very obviously that is enough of an argument for me to feel completely confident that I have an superior intellect and that anybody disagreeing with me very obviously lack the proper taste and most likely the brains to understand what I am saying and thus it is completely meaningless to go any further with any sort of actual intellectual challenge or explanation that would result in anything even remotely resembling humble and original thought even as I munch my way through the bloody membrane of the matter everybody else's pants half way down for no reason their faces revealing surprise and awe as they look at me with their cold fish eyes praying I won't eat them alive with my laser beam eyes and sharp teeth nomnomnom in all probability it is very obvious that the difference between something standing up to close scrutiny and something not standing up to close scrutiny is as much about the perception and will of a mind as watching two paintings and determine which is fake and a forgery and which is the original if the fake painting was actually painted by the original paintings painter right after the original painting was painted also with the intention of it seeming like the fake but not obvious enough so that there will be an actual challenge does that make the fake painting still fake or is it in fact more original than the first original damn you Joyce stop doing this to me madman


- Gem, is considering drinking alcohol for the first time in her life...



Okay, not really, but admit you got interested there for a second...

[QuickTidal]

Saw it for a third time tonight. Still holds up as awesome!

[Tiste Simeon]

Kind of makes sense...

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[Aptorian]

This was posted before If I recall correctly. The point would be that Cobb is on the run, not just from the Government but from some rather dangerous people working for the private sector as well. They are most likely keeping tabs on his families travelling plans and bringing them to Europe would alert the bad guys and possibly put the Children and Caine in danger.

[stone monkey]

Gem Windcaster, on 14 August 2010 - 01:22 AM, said:

I doubt there has existed, exists or will exist a movie that will stand up to your close scrutiny. And if I happen to be wrong, which is never likely, it is doubly likely that it is boring as hell - and probably alot like reading the toilet parts of James Joyce Ulysses. Also, when I say that a movie like that doesn't exists, it doesn't because I say so. Very obviously that is enough of an argument for me to feel completely confident that I have an superior intellect and that anybody disagreeing with me very obviously lack the proper taste and most likely the brains to understand what I am saying and thus it is completely meaningless to go any further with any sort of actual intellectual challenge or explanation that would result in anything even remotely resembling humble and original thought even as I munch my way through the bloody membrane of the matter everybody else's pants half way down for no reason their faces revealing surprise and awe as they look at me with their cold fish eyes praying I won't eat them alive with my laser beam eyes and sharp teeth nomnomnom in all probability it is very obvious that the difference between something standing up to close scrutiny and something not standing up to close scrutiny is as much about the perception and will of a mind as watching two paintings and determine which is fake and a forgery and which is the original if the fake painting was actually painted by the original paintings painter right after the original painting was painted also with the intention of it seeming like the fake but not obvious enough so that there will be an actual challenge does that make the fake painting still fake or is it in fact more original than the first original damn you Joyce stop doing this to me madman

I see what you did there... Personally I found reading Joyce to be akin to the experience of having a very clever, very articulate Irishman inserting a key in my back and using it to wind me up. I'm impressed by him, but I don't enjoy him. Which is entirely the opposite of my opinion of Inception; which I enjoyed, but was not impressed by...

Anyway... I thought one of the clues that we might have been in Cobb's dreamscape all along was the African alley that seemed to close in on him whilst he was escaping from the corporate goons. Although it did seem a little obvious.

You could, I suppose, argue that the dreamlike editing of the final montage was another clue, but that could, I suppose, have been Nolan doing some sort of meta commentary on the nature of film...

[Gem Windcaster]

@SM, yeah I feel that Nolan intentionally left it to the audience to make up their own minds about the dream or not dream state. I think the notion that what may seem like a dream to someone may seem like reality to someone else and vice versa is pretty well planted in this movie. On several occasions he poses the question whether we can trust Cobb's ability to tell what is dream and what isn't. although he also seem to ask if it really matters? To Cobb the dream state was the real world, and in the end he might actually have driven himself into a dream state while in the real world, because of his deep seeded need to be there. True, I might be taking it too far, but as we say in mafia, it's completely wifom.

To me though, the movie isn't as much brain sex as it is an interesting experience. It's like driving a fast car - you have done it before and some experiences may have been greater and more fast, but this time around was still special and I'll remember it as a great moment. At that time it seems picky to be annoyed that the color was slightly off and that the car could have been a Lamborghini instead of a Mercedes.


- Gem, is also impressed by Joyce, but much more so by Dostoevsky - which is also enjoyable.