[D'rek]

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A grandmother has shocked her friends and family after revealing she is having a baby with her own grandson.

Pearl Carter, 72, says she has never been happier after beginning an incestuous relationship with her 26-year-old grandchild Phil Bailey. The pensioner, from Indiana, US, is using her pension to pay a surrogate mother so they can have a child, reports New Zealand's New Idea magazine.

She said: "I'm not interested in anyone else's opinion. I am in love with Phil and he's in love with me.

"Soon I'll be holding my son or daughter in my arms and Phil will be the proud dad."

Her lover is the son of Pearl's daughter Lynette Bailey - who she put up for adoption when she was 18-years-old.

When his mother passed away, Phil tracked down his long lost grandmother and they quickly fell in love.

Pearl told New Idea magazine: "From the first moment that I saw him, I knew we would never have a grandmother-grandson relationship.

"For the first time in years I felt sexually alive."

It was during their second week together, after dinner and wine, that Pearl made her move.

"I called Phil into my bedroom, sat him on the bed, and then I leant over and kissed him," she added.

"I expected rejection but instead he kissed me back."

Phil revealed: "I wanted to kiss her there and then. My feelings were overwhelming.

"I love Pearl with all my heart. I've always been attracted to older women and I think Pearl is gorgeous. Now I'm going to be a dad and I can't wait.

"Yes, we get laughed at and bullied when we go out and kiss in public but we don't care. You can't help who you fall for."

The pair paid $54,000 (£35,000) to find a surrogate mother and buy a donor egg to inseminate with Phil's sperm.

They placed an advert asking for an open-minded surrogate, and Roxanne Campbell applied.

"Initially I was shocked," says Roxanne, 30. "But they're a brilliant pair and I saw how much they loved each other. I know the baby will be loved too."

Pearl said: "I am finally going to be a mum and not forced to give up my child. Phil's going to be a great dad.

"I never in a million years thought at 72 I'd be 'pregnant' and in love with my grandson.

"I make no apologies and I believe God's given me a second chance."

Source: http://uk.news.yahoo...ra-870a197.html

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Is it gross, or acceptably abnormal?
Is it anyone's business to say this is wrong or not?


Personally, I think its a bit gross and I don't really approve of them having a kid as I think that child is going to have a strange set of parental circumstances and is almost certainly going to have its mother die while the kid is still young. Though if they must do this at least its a donor egg so there won't be a chance of genetic problems from the incest.

[HoosierDaddy]

Aw, crap. Thanks for being from Indiana, folks.

Horrific and awful. Just so undeniably disgusting I don't know what to say.

[MTS]

There's a joke here somewhere...gene-cross'd lovers?

In no way can this be considered 'acceptably normal'. This is even grosser than that girl who had a baby with her own dad. D'rek is right, this baby is going to have a fucked up childhood and experience the death of her great-grandmother/'mother'( ) while young, not to mention the stigma of being a child of incest. I cannot imagine the bullying this child will cop. And since it's illegal in most countries, I'd say it's somebody's business to put a stop to it. The child, at least.

[Jusentantaka]

 H.D., on 10 May 2010 - 01:07 AM, said:

Aw, crap. Thanks for being from Indiana, folks.

Horrific and awful. Just so undeniably disgusting I don't know what to say.

This.

Damn, you wanna get laid at 72, go talk to a doctor and get some little white pills and find a 26 year old who IS NOT your grandchild. twisted fucking rednecks.

[Eye Flys]

Why stop at one? They should try and outdo the octomom.

I bet an Oprah appearance is already in the works.

This post has been edited by Eye Flys: 10 May 2010 - 01:46 AM

[Zanth13]

ewwww....

[RodeoRanch]

Is it a hoax?

[Adjutant Stormy~]

We can only wish and hope...

[worry]

I think it's disgusting and wrong and I guess I wish them the best anyway. But falling in love with your long lost grandmother right after your mom dies probably speaks to some emotional...unsoundness, that isn't gonna be pretty when she kicks the bucket too. I'm sure soon enough they are gonna look like the Peacock family from the X-Files. I know it's a donor egg (the donator ain't such a great catch either probably), but when folks are "proud" of their incest rather than ashamed, that's maybe gonna be passed on (as in, taught) to the next generation.

[Aptorian]

 D, on 10 May 2010 - 01:02 AM, said:

Though if they must do this at least its a donor egg so there won't be a chance of genetic problems from the incest.

Actually, if I'm reading this right. It's a surrogate mother, meaning you take grandma's eggs and grandsons seeds, give them a whirl and then put them in the volunteers womb... or uterus... or where ever it's supposed to go. Kind of strange really, I thought women usually ran out of eggs during their 50s, maybe early 60s. Rather impressive that a 76 year old is still retaining her eggs.

I find it peculiar that a doctor would willingly do this considering there is a chance of the baby coming out all wonky. Then again, with a generation inbetween grandmother and grandson it might not really be an issue at all.

The baby born of a blood relation aside, I don't really care. Is it weird, hell yes. But who am I to decide that two people who love each other can't be together? Much like gay marriage and bigamy, I don't really think that society has a right to interfere if a couple of family members get the hots for each other, not unless it switches over into pedophelia.

But still, boinking a 76 year old. Wow.

[Gothos]

I really, REALLY hope there's a lot of money involved somewhere in that story... please... please.

[MTS]

 Aptorian, on 10 May 2010 - 07:21 AM, said:

 D, on 10 May 2010 - 01:02 AM, said:

Though if they must do this at least its a donor egg so there won't be a chance of genetic problems from the incest.

Actually, if I'm reading this right. It's a surrogate mother, meaning you take grandma's eggs and grandsons seeds, give them a whirl and then put them in the volunteers womb... or uterus... or where ever it's supposed to go. Kind of strange really, I thought women usually ran out of eggs during their 50s, maybe early 60s. Rather impressive that a 76 year old is still retaining her eggs.

I find it peculiar that a doctor would willingly do this considering there is a chance of the baby coming out all wonky. Then again, with a generation inbetween grandmother and grandson it might not really be an issue at all.

The baby born of a blood relation aside, I don't really care. Is it weird, hell yes. But who am I to decide that two people who love each other can't be together? Much like gay marriage and bigamy, I don't really think that society has a right to interfere if a couple of family members get the hots for each other, not unless it switches over into pedophelia.

But still, boinking a 76 year old. Wow.

Actually, the more traditional form of surrogacy is that the surrogate is the genetic mother of the child and the father supplies the sperm. I imagine that would be the case as the grandmother would almost certainly have gone through menopause by this stage.

Society does have a right to interfere here though, since incest is illegal pretty much everywhere. Me personally, I don't really care about the relationship itself existing, gross as it is, but I'm rather against them having a child together.

[Aptorian]

Ahh yes, I just reread the article.

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The pair paid $54,000 (£35,000) to find a surrogate mother and buy a donor egg to inseminate with Phil's sperm.

I just got the impression from the quotes that the child was also the grandmothers.

I didn't know that most cases of surrogate pregnancies didn't actually involve the woman of the relationship. I guess it makes sense, if the woman is infertile. Still weird though. Why not just adopt then, if one party of the parents aren't going to be blood related anyway?

[MTS]

 Aptorian, on 10 May 2010 - 07:45 AM, said:

Ahh yes, I just reread the article.

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The pair paid $54,000 (£35,000) to find a surrogate mother and buy a donor egg to inseminate with Phil's sperm.

I just got the impression from the quotes that the child was also the grandmothers.

I didn't know that most cases of surrogate pregnancies didn't actually involve the woman of the relationship. I guess it makes sense, if the woman is infertile. Still weird though. Why not just adopt then, if one party of the parents aren't going to be blood related anyway?

Dunno about most cases, especially these days, but generally that's the way it goes. As for not adopting, adopting takes a lot longer, and with surrogacy, at the least the father is related to the child. Motherhood is more than carrying the embryo as well. I'd think it's probably one of the least important in the raising of a child, actually.

[Aptorian]

Surely adoption doesn't take more than 9 months?

[MTS]

Adoption can take years, Apt. There's waiting periods until you can take custody of the child (at least 2 months), not to mention waiting lists.

[Adjutant Stormy~]

They should have just stolen a baby, I'd honestly be less creeped out.

[worry]

hahaha

[dktorode]

This reminds me of this song

[The Tyrant Lizard]

Unless your grandmother in Monica Bellucci this is wrong.

Sounds like something from a Stepehn King book I read once.