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Mafia 61 Spoilers The Rot3K Conspiracy

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 04:24 PM

Vengy finally alts one of his bosses, although he doesn't realize Korbas is scum.

Tulas Shorn, on 22 April 2010 - 04:14 PM, said:

I ment to do this yesterday

Korbas = Morgy... :p

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 04:35 PM

D'rek, this looks like a huge no no.

The Dude (Sorrit) just quoted his role PM, almost verbatim, in an effort to look PI.

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You are Guo Tu, an Official in the Ministry of Justice.

You are RI and a townie.


 Sorrit, on 22 April 2010 - 04:17 PM, said:

Well, you can lynch me if you prefer, I am expendable. but as it will come down to a speed lynch you won't get any info from my train and that seems like a waste.

I am Guo Tu. I am an official in the ministry of Justice.

I am an RI and a Townie.


Look at my wording. If you are also RI, you will know I am too.

If I came to the game and there had been a bunch of discussion that led up to me having 7 votes I probably would have let sleeping dogs lie and taken my medicine.. but as you will get no info from a lynch of me, I don't feel I should have to take that bullet, especially considering how many low posters we have.

I am going to look at the Post list and pick the lowest poster that isn't up for a modkill. at least then we are probably getting rid of an RI that isn't going to help us at all.

I think he should be modkilled, but leave it to you.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 05:10 PM

Korvalain, on 22 April 2010 - 05:09 PM, said:

Sigh. Is Sorrit fake-symping me?

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 05:20 PM

Obdi's going to make sure the killers are going nowhere, fast.

Liosan, on 22 April 2010 - 05:14 PM, said:

Secure Spite once more. If he is lynched, then Secure Eloth.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 06:15 PM

Modkills are such a mess in terms of balance. They are designed to punish a rule break but the breaking of the rule has already affected the play of the game.

If Sorrit is modkilled, then someone else may be lynched instead, which is unfair to that individual.

I think the general feeling is that he definitively broke the rules, but now that it's done, it needs to be resolved on-thread. Do people lynch him to test the reveal and PM language? Do they let him go and the killers have to try for him (they're staunched right now anyway)?

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 06:36 PM

Yellow is about half right here.

Korvalain, on 22 April 2010 - 06:25 PM, said:

So, right now I've got:

Alkend and Korbas as killers, Tulas Shorn as the remaining symp (Zombie Omtose and Zombie Kesso being the other two).

Am I right? Come on, you can tell me.

Path-Shaper, on 22 April 2010 - 06:35 PM, said:

Let's just say, "You're totally 100% correct in every possible way!"

And you're welcome to figure out if I'm telling the truth. :p

-pb

Korvalain, on 22 April 2010 - 06:43 PM, said:

You were scum anyway, so that means your statement was a lie.

Hmmmmmm. That means I'm wrong. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

This reminds me of Labyrinth and those upside down door guard thingies.

Korvalain, on 22 April 2010 - 06:50 PM, said:

Speaking of Labyrinth. Was anyone else fucking terrified of those Fiery things? The orange fuckers who could pluck out their eyeballs and take off their heads and stuff? I loved that film, but those things freaked me the fuck out. And then right at the end, where all her muppet friends turn up in her bedroom for a party, those Fiery guys were there as well.

Seriously, why were they there? They were trying to kill/eat/molest her. I'm not sure what they were trying to do to her, but it wasn't wholesome. No way would they be invited to my party.

I mean look at them:

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That shit ain't right.

Path-Shaper, on 22 April 2010 - 06:53 PM, said:

Those things were bizarre, but David Bowie is still the creepiest thing in that movie by FAR.

And who says I was scum?! Them's fightin' words!

-pb

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 06:56 PM

Taking a crack at a scene... gonna edit this post with my results. I suck at Chinese writing style.


A sense of cabin fever began to overtake some of the men trapped within Yuan Shao's residence. Lessons had given way to sermons. Reading had turned into rhyming. Calligraphy and painting into mindless scribbling. More people secluded themselves in rooms, always mindful of the guards standing presence. Occasionally, an official or two would emerge from quarters at similar times and engage in a spirited debate about the differences between treason and honor.

Eventually, Yuan Shao returned and asked for a name, but none was given. He furrowed his brow and left the room.

No one was lynched.

Elsewhere in the Prime Minister's home, Tian Fang and Ju Shao sat together in silence for an interminable amount of time. And so it was that they fell over, dehydrated and starving, and they died.

Barghast (Silencer) was modkilled. He was Tian Fang, Commandant of the Hong Nong command.
Sukul Ankhadu (Lisheo) was modkilled. He was Ju Shao, Court Counselor.

Dinner was considerably quieter than the previous night. Shao watched officials from across the table, and each could feel his imperial gaze bore its way into their minds. They slept even worse than the previous night.

Night is over. No one has died.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 07:04 PM

 Path-Shaper, on 22 April 2010 - 04:35 PM, said:

D'rek, this looks like a huge no no.

The Dude (Sorrit) just quoted his role PM, almost verbatim, in an effort to look PI.

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You are Guo Tu, an Official in the Ministry of Justice.

You are RI and a townie.


 Sorrit, on 22 April 2010 - 04:17 PM, said:

Well, you can lynch me if you prefer, I am expendable. but as it will come down to a speed lynch you won't get any info from my train and that seems like a waste.

I am Guo Tu. I am an official in the ministry of Justice.

I am an RI and a Townie.


Look at my wording. If you are also RI, you will know I am too.

If I came to the game and there had been a bunch of discussion that led up to me having 7 votes I probably would have let sleeping dogs lie and taken my medicine.. but as you will get no info from a lynch of me, I don't feel I should have to take that bullet, especially considering how many low posters we have.

I am going to look at the Post list and pick the lowest poster that isn't up for a modkill. at least then we are probably getting rid of an RI that isn't going to help us at all.

I think he should be modkilled, but leave it to you.

-pb



I'm thinking it over now. He's veiledly calling attention to the grammatical similarities of PMs, though without directly mentioning it or stating it is a PM. If I decide the spirit of rule B7 is violated than he may be modkilled. Thing is that it doesn't lead to mass-gamebreaking because now that one person has done it the scum can easily fake it so a mass-copyage won't change anything. So, still thinking about it.



 Path-Shaper, on 22 April 2010 - 06:56 PM, said:

Taking a crack at a scene... gonna edit this post with my results. I suck at Chinese writing style.


Have fun. The start-of-day scene is already read on the first page, but go ahead and write the lynch/night scene if you like.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 07:29 PM

Let me handle the end of day resolution, if you please.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 07:43 PM

Sorry, cross posted there a second with you. The forum is loading super slow for me at the moment, but I insta deleted it.
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Posted 22 April 2010 - 07:46 PM

The PM I sent to Sorrit/The Dude:

Path-Shaper said:

I have decided that trying to draw attention to the grammatical phrasing of text that is copied/quoted from a Path-Shaper PM, especially role PMs, is against rule B7 of ME-Mafia.

Your punishment is that you will have no voting power for the next two game-days. If you don't break any rules in that time you'll get voting power back on day 6. Any second offenses will result in modkill, no access to SH and potential banning from some future games, depending on each game's moderator's discretion - most assuredly the rest of the Rot3K games.

Let me know if there's any questions or confusion in this matter.

-D'rek

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 07:47 PM

To HP:

Path-Shaper said:

Hood, on 22 April 2010 - 03:10 PM, said:

Slight change:

Find on Sorrit

if lynched

Find on Tulas Shorn


Last night you monitored Sorrit and determined that he is not a secret conspirator.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 07:55 PM

Thanks for showing up and handling that, D'rek. I am pretty intimidated trying to write your scenes.

-pb

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 08:31 PM

I think Eloth may have a good point... the game is flawed in that Obdi can now just keep the killers on lockdown while they hunt for the remaining scum. Virtually impossible for the scum to kill with that ability, especially if Shin reveals, too, that he can find symps.

In fact, that's pretty much impossible to lose. You just lynch one unknown, find another. Guaranteed you never let scum go above 50%

 Eloth, on 22 April 2010 - 08:26 PM, said:

Right if you're guard is blocking the kill and you used it on spite then we have a opportunity here.

If spite is one of the killers you only need to keep guarding him and there will be no kill.

With that mod mistake I'm willing to believe you.
Guard Spite and go hunt for the other killer in our lynching attempts.

We take out Spite when we have the other killer dead.

The reason why I suggest this is that LIosan is blocking kills, if we take out Spite then Liosan is going to be attacked again and it going to be luck for him to block the next killer.

He only needs to guard spiite to stop the kills.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 08:37 PM

Heh heh, Obdi jumps at a lot of shadows.

 Liosan, on 22 April 2010 - 08:34 PM, said:

 Eloth, on 22 April 2010 - 08:31 PM, said:

If the kill is shared between two killers, a guard on one can stop the kill. It has to work that way if there is only one guard in the game.

If both men needed to be guarded then there has to be two guards in the game setup.



I have played many games where there is 1 guard and a duo of killers and even if one killer is blocked the other one gets the kill through.

You look more and more like a Symp every time you post.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 08:55 PM

GK's banging his head against the wall.

Eloth, on 22 April 2010 - 08:51 PM, said:

I suggest a fucking way to allow town to win, And I'm accused by a short sighted idiot of being a symp.

Eloth, on 22 April 2010 - 09:11 PM, said:

Liosan is assuming that there a other healer that will protect him. He fucking gambling himself and losing him is a disadvantage to team inno.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 09:17 PM

Obdi sets up an action based upon how the day will play out, but it depends on whether or not he can heal himself. This action is going to get him killed, most likely.

Liosan, on 22 April 2010 - 09:15 PM, said:

Ready for this one?

If Spite is lynched, and I can heal myself, heal myself.
If Spite is lynched, and I cannot heal myself, send guards to Korv.
If Spite is not lynched, Send Guards to him.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 09:47 PM

Well for now it looks like they'll lynch Spite anyways, but if they don't I'll do something so innos cant abuse the guard, probably give the killers the option to let Korbas become sole killer (they'll retain off-thread comm). If Spite gets lynched, then everything is fine and no adjustment necessary.

I'm surprised by all this speculation of recruiting because of Ji Ping in the scenes - someone already noticed and pointed out that the morning scenes are flashbacks. And they clearly progress from one to the other (ie Liu Bei wakes up at the end of the morning-3 scene, then in the morning-4 scene he's just awoken!), but everyone's just sporadically forgotten, apparently. Silly people, but their loss!

-D'rek

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 10:09 PM

It's a freaking Meat and Potatoes game. It's pretty clear it's 2 scum 3 symps from the setup.

People never fail to overcomplicate simplicity.

Drek, are you going to respond to Obdi about whether or not he can guard himself? We need a ruling on that.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 10:11 PM

Morgy wastes no time throwing Spite under the bus and attempting to eliminate the power role.

Korbas, on 22 April 2010 - 09:53 PM, said:

Liosan... duh

Korbas, on 22 April 2010 - 10:05 PM, said:

That was it for you it would seem. Sorry about that but I cannot see how I couldn't vote for you. Especially with a CI super powered healer/guard. I wouldn't be surprised at this point if there are two other healers and that they can all communicate off-thread.

Anyways, I'm hitting Liosan because that's all I can do. I can't even question the validity of his statements, which compared to typical game structures look pretty wild, so there's no way he'll ever be lynched.

Korbas, on 22 April 2010 - 10:16 PM, said:

If nothing else I can be proud of having gotten it right the second time. That's something at least

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