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Mafia 60 - 80s Horror A Nightmare on Friday the 13th in Hell

#181 User is offline   Kaschan 

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:02 PM

View PostMockra, on 06 April 2010 - 12:57 PM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 06 April 2010 - 12:53 PM, said:


I wanted to see what others had to say about there votes...actually



otherS? you have two leaders?


*budum tish!*



the rest of the thread...

ps. go fuck yourslef :p

#182 User is offline   Atrahal 

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:02 PM

View PostKaschan, on 06 April 2010 - 01:00 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 06 April 2010 - 12:59 PM, said:

Oooh, I hit a nerve. Sweet.


Of course the moderator mentioned factionS. Why would he say 'if there is a hidden faction, it will have this and this goal?' That's owning up there is a hidden faction, and that there's only 1 of it. The assumption that it is one faction and that it consists of 1 guy is based on math.




vote Atrhal


clearly you have more info than i do

While we all know what you mean, I cry a little inside at the glaring spelling mistake.

#183 User is offline   Kaschan 

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:02 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 06 April 2010 - 01:01 PM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 06 April 2010 - 12:59 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 05 April 2010 - 02:28 PM, said:

The base setting of this game is a 3 faction mercenary structure. The victory condition of each faction is to gain a full majority. If any other factions outside of the three main ones are present, their victory condition will be the death of all other leaders.

3 main factions; Jason, Freddy, Pinhead.





what do those words tell you.
I dont think its as cut and dry as you seem to think.

Yes it could just be one man, but ill be damned if PS does not allude to something entirely else happening that we dont know of.

Yes it could just be one man and im inclined to think that way too, but to completely ignore the fact that there could be another big team out there is stupid
Unless you know the size of your own team and therefore have a better info than i do?

I do think it is as cut and dry.
As for knowing the size of my team: I bet it is 5 :p



well my vote stays

#184 User is offline   Atrahal 

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:04 PM

View PostKaschan, on 06 April 2010 - 01:02 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 06 April 2010 - 01:01 PM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 06 April 2010 - 12:59 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 05 April 2010 - 02:28 PM, said:

The base setting of this game is a 3 faction mercenary structure. The victory condition of each faction is to gain a full majority. If any other factions outside of the three main ones are present, their victory condition will be the death of all other leaders.

3 main factions; Jason, Freddy, Pinhead.





what do those words tell you.
I dont think its as cut and dry as you seem to think.

Yes it could just be one man, but ill be damned if PS does not allude to something entirely else happening that we dont know of.

Yes it could just be one man and im inclined to think that way too, but to completely ignore the fact that there could be another big team out there is stupid
Unless you know the size of your own team and therefore have a better info than i do?

I do think it is as cut and dry.
As for knowing the size of my team: I bet it is 5 :p



well my vote stays

Wooohooo, look at you showing initiative and standing square behind your words, and not being OMGUS at all. :p

#185 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:04 PM

Anyways, I think that from the complete lack of heat, even indirect, I felt from my vote on Tennes, I will

remove vote

He's either not a leader or got himself some cool followers.

I realize I might not be the as careful as I should in a merc game, but what the hell, let's keep fishing. Kachan's strategy is safer, but boring.

vote Atrahal

Not sure what got him all reeled up about Kaschan to the point of taking out the big words and the vote, methinks he might be a leader looking night action love, and who took advantage of Tellan's vote to frame him in case his followers are not subtle in the way they follow him if there is a train.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:04 PM

View PostMockra, on 06 April 2010 - 05:37 AM, said:

View PostTennes, on 05 April 2010 - 11:22 PM, said:

While you may not lose when your leader dies, it becomes HUNTING SEASON for your faction cuz the other leaders learn your whole faction and they may choose to kill them instead of their own people. Hrrrrrm.... who should they kill? Their own faction or the other faction's members?

HARD DECISION.

No seriously, you may not lose, but a faction without a leader (early on) is in trouble. Later game it may be more feasible to manage when the factions are all down to like 2 or 3 people.

I'm with Atrahal on the legit math. Seems likely it's 5/5/5/1 in this game. At the risk of getting "OH MY GOD HE'S SPECULATING ABOUT THE LONE FACTION HE MUST BE IT"'d from y'all, since this is 80's horror, there's a huge recurring theme in those kinds of movies: The Sole Surviving Female.

I'd put money on it being some teenage chick that has to survive (until all 3 leaders die, given the add'l info in the setup). No clue what kinda powers she'd have, usually the archetypal woman is attractive, in decent shape, and resilient; but not necessarily some kind of athletic, bad-guy killer. She usually gets lucky so we may be seeing BP type stuff.


If the opposing leaders can hunt us down if we lose ours, what difference does it make if it happens later in the game?

Also, the additional "I'm going to say something more or less useless which has been known to attract attention in the past, but I'll do it anyways and I'll make sure I point it out." sounded, well, useless, until I realized that leaders are quite keen to attract some attention and night actions.



Because if it happens later in the game, it is a lot easier to finger the other leaders and try to get them lynched before you're culled off. Surely when you're at 6-7 people, 2 of whom are leaders, the other factions are going to want to lynch each other's leaders.

#187 User is offline   Kaschan 

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:05 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 06 April 2010 - 01:02 PM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 06 April 2010 - 01:00 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 06 April 2010 - 12:59 PM, said:

Oooh, I hit a nerve. Sweet.


Of course the moderator mentioned factionS. Why would he say 'if there is a hidden faction, it will have this and this goal?' That's owning up there is a hidden faction, and that there's only 1 of it. The assumption that it is one faction and that it consists of 1 guy is based on math.




vote Atrhal


clearly you have more info than i do


While we all know what you mean, I cry a little inside at the glaring spelling mistake.



you can also go fuck yerself Atrhal

#188 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:05 PM

Hmmm, that was a cross-post with up to Kaschan's vote.

#189 User is offline   Atrahal 

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:08 PM

View PostMockra, on 06 April 2010 - 01:04 PM, said:

Anyways, I think that from the complete lack of heat, even indirect, I felt from my vote on Tennes, I will

remove vote

He's either not a leader or got himself some cool followers.

I realize I might not be the as careful as I should in a merc game, but what the hell, let's keep fishing. Kachan's strategy is safer, but boring.

vote Atrahal

Not sure what got him all reeled up about Kaschan to the point of taking out the big words and the vote, methinks he might be a leader looking night action love, and who took advantage of Tellan's vote to frame him in case his followers are not subtle in the way they follow him if there is a train.


Actually, I took out the big words to provoke a reaction that did not in essence amounted to saying 'everything is possible, look at me producing a big chunk of text in which I say nothing but add a whole lot of ... to sound like I'm Venge and add even more lines to my big steaming pile of nothing.'
Tellan's vote on Kasch was useful in that regard as it was suddenly 2 votes on the poor motherfucker.

But whatever rocks your boat :p.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:10 PM

View PostKaschan, on 06 April 2010 - 01:05 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 06 April 2010 - 01:02 PM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 06 April 2010 - 01:00 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 06 April 2010 - 12:59 PM, said:

Oooh, I hit a nerve. Sweet.


Of course the moderator mentioned factionS. Why would he say 'if there is a hidden faction, it will have this and this goal?' That's owning up there is a hidden faction, and that there's only 1 of it. The assumption that it is one faction and that it consists of 1 guy is based on math.




vote Atrhal


clearly you have more info than i do


While we all know what you mean, I cry a little inside at the glaring spelling mistake.



you can also go fuck yerself Atrhal

Not in public, Kasch.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:24 PM

Lot of good discussion! I think some people are missing the obvious pieces, however.

A leader has few, if any, reasons to early vote in a day. If they vote early, all they're doing is risking outing themselves if some careless faction mates jump on the train. It's a lot more likely, IMO, that a leader will slide onto a train late in the day. If its one of their own members in trouble, the leader may try to pick an alternate train, but even if not, it's still better to quietly lynch your own brood than to risk outing yourself.

Leaders may also vote to signal their faction members where to direct any NAs.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:25 PM

yawn
morning all

I thought I posted last nigth b4 going to bed, but I suppose my nets fucked up. ah well.

First off, y'all are a bunch of parrakeets, since I said the 5+5+5+1 thing in like my second post.

secondly, with that out of the way, I'm really not liking the direction in which Kas is leading the discussion. it's like "hey, look, this is what I think all the leaders and teams should do, so that my own team will do somehting different, *wink-wink*"

meh, deffo something stinks about that whole Kas-Mockra exchange.

vote Kaschan

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:26 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 06 April 2010 - 01:04 PM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 06 April 2010 - 01:02 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 06 April 2010 - 01:01 PM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 06 April 2010 - 12:59 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 05 April 2010 - 02:28 PM, said:

The base setting of this game is a 3 faction mercenary structure. The victory condition of each faction is to gain a full majority. If any other factions outside of the three main ones are present, their victory condition will be the death of all other leaders.

3 main factions; Jason, Freddy, Pinhead.





what do those words tell you.
I dont think its as cut and dry as you seem to think.

Yes it could just be one man, but ill be damned if PS does not allude to something entirely else happening that we dont know of.

Yes it could just be one man and im inclined to think that way too, but to completely ignore the fact that there could be another big team out there is stupid
Unless you know the size of your own team and therefore have a better info than i do?

I do think it is as cut and dry.
As for knowing the size of my team: I bet it is 5 :p



well my vote stays

Wooohooo, look at you showing initiative and standing square behind your words, and not being OMGUS at all. :p



you are confident of the number of players in your team.
Only a leader knows for sure. You are not my leader.
You might have slipped up here so i will place my vote and see what happens.

as for as OMGUS?

Your reason for voting for me makes next to no sense and seemed to be based on difference of opinion and strawmannirg making me believe your ACTAUL vote was for your own reasons that i have explained earlier.

Your voting me is irrelevant i couldn't actually be arsed as there really is nothing to defend on your non-case.
Mockra told me to shut up?...hahaha...

#194 User is offline   Kaschan 

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:27 PM

DOUBLE POST....silly browser


View PostAtrahal, on 06 April 2010 - 01:04 PM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 06 April 2010 - 01:02 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 06 April 2010 - 01:01 PM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 06 April 2010 - 12:59 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 05 April 2010 - 02:28 PM, said:

The base setting of this game is a 3 faction mercenary structure. The victory condition of each faction is to gain a full majority. If any other factions outside of the three main ones are present, their victory condition will be the death of all other leaders.

3 main factions; Jason, Freddy, Pinhead.





what do those words tell you.
I dont think its as cut and dry as you seem to think.

Yes it could just be one man, but ill be damned if PS does not allude to something entirely else happening that we dont know of.

Yes it could just be one man and im inclined to think that way too, but to completely ignore the fact that there could be another big team out there is stupid
Unless you know the size of your own team and therefore have a better info than i do?

I do think it is as cut and dry.
As for knowing the size of my team: I bet it is 5 :p



well my vote stays

Wooohooo, look at you showing initiative and standing square behind your words, and not being OMGUS at all. :p



you are confident of the number of players in your team.
Only a leader knows for sure. You are not my leader.
You might have slipped up here so i will place my vote and see what happens.

as for as OMGUS?


Your reason for voting for me makes next to no sense and seemed to be based on difference of opinion and strawmannirg making me believe your ACTAUL vote was for your own reasons that i have explained earlier.

Your voting me is irrelevant i couldn't actually be arsed as there really is nothing to defend on your non-case.
Mockra told me to shut up?...hahaha...

This post has been edited by Kaschan: 06 April 2010 - 01:32 PM


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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:31 PM

View PostSilanah, on 06 April 2010 - 01:25 PM, said:

yawn
morning all

I thought I posted last nigth b4 going to bed, but I suppose my nets fucked up. ah well.

First off, y'all are a bunch of parrakeets, since I said the 5+5+5+1 thing in like my second post.

secondly, with that out of the way, I'm really not liking the direction in which Kas is leading the discussion. it's like "hey, look, this is what I think all the leaders and teams should do, so that my own team will do somehting different, *wink-wink*"

meh, deffo something stinks about that whole Kas-Mockra exchange.

vote Kaschan




i like how the votes are piling up for no reason other than people "dont like" something...stinks...
Im fine with getting lynched as I think I might have rattled a cage and i hope my team can capitilise on all of this once they realize im on their side.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:32 PM

View PostSilanah, on 06 April 2010 - 01:25 PM, said:

yawn
morning all

I thought I posted last nigth b4 going to bed, but I suppose my nets fucked up. ah well.

First off, y'all are a bunch of parrakeets, since I said the 5+5+5+1 thing in like my second post.

secondly, with that out of the way, I'm really not liking the direction in which Kas is leading the discussion. it's like "hey, look, this is what I think all the leaders and teams should do, so that my own team will do somehting different, *wink-wink*"

meh, deffo something stinks about that whole Kas-Mockra exchange.

vote Kaschan


Remove vote

Vote Atrahal

It seems someone has over-reacted to the crapfest between Atrahal and Kaschan. If Kaschan wants to rant about how he thinks the team should play, so be it, that's usually the way teams lose, by playing in a defined set manner, so I don't care about that, but it's interesting how many people have gotten antsy about it, and his argument with Atrahal.
It was a toss-up between voting Atrahal or Tellan, but Atrahal seems the better choice, as he's online and able to defend himself.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:33 PM

View PostTennes, on 06 April 2010 - 01:24 PM, said:

Lot of good discussion! I think some people are missing the obvious pieces, however.

A leader has few, if any, reasons to early vote in a day. If they vote early, all they're doing is risking outing themselves if some careless faction mates jump on the train. It's a lot more likely, IMO, that a leader will slide onto a train late in the day. If its one of their own members in trouble, the leader may try to pick an alternate train, but even if not, it's still better to quietly lynch your own brood than to risk outing yourself.

Leaders may also vote to signal their faction members where to direct any NAs.



Yup i agree... this is another way. But a leader cant always be at the end...or people will start noticing.
Thats when i reckon you could see something different, when a leader makes a case or an early vote.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:36 PM

sorry tripple post

This post has been edited by Kaschan: 06 April 2010 - 01:40 PM


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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:37 PM

View PostSerc, on 06 April 2010 - 01:32 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on 06 April 2010 - 01:25 PM, said:

yawn
morning all

I thought I posted last nigth b4 going to bed, but I suppose my nets fucked up. ah well.

First off, y'all are a bunch of parrakeets, since I said the 5+5+5+1 thing in like my second post.

secondly, with that out of the way, I'm really not liking the direction in which Kas is leading the discussion. it's like "hey, look, this is what I think all the leaders and teams should do, so that my own team will do somehting different, *wink-wink*"

meh, deffo something stinks about that whole Kas-Mockra exchange.

vote Kaschan


Remove vote

Vote Atrahal

It seems someone has over-reacted to the crapfest between Atrahal and Kaschan. If Kaschan wants to rant about how he thinks the team should play, so be it, that's usually the way teams lose, by playing in a defined set manner, so I don't care about that, but it's interesting how many people have gotten antsy about it, and his argument with Atrahal.
It was a toss-up between voting Atrahal or Tellan, but Atrahal seems the better choice, as he's online and able to defend himself.

Sure, just explain why you vote me, first :p
I already outlined why I went for Kasch. Must say though, I like the way the votes are splitting so far. Lots of good info.
May I also point at Kasch's apparent defeatism by stating his team will capitalize on his loss? Seems awfully premature.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:39 PM

@ 193, 194 and 198: did you get so excited that you hit the reply button thrice, or were you trying to type left handed while basking in your own glory, hands down the pants style?

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