[Sinisdar Toste]

i'm stealing the fucking goodyear blimp. load it up with powerbars, bottled water, and other non-perishable goods, guns, ammo, other weapons and fuel, then float from place to place. oh i'd bring some grenades too, to take out packs of zombies following the shadow.

[Shinrei]

Hmmm, I can't honestly think of a plan better than hunkering down, given the place in which I live. There would be no where to go, unless I took the early warnings before others realized what was really happening and managed to get out of the city.

If I was at the in-laws, that's an entirely different matter. I know EXACTLY where I'd head to. With the proper packing, there are plenty of mountain spots that would be nigh unclimbable by zombies and would be great for holing up in. Supplies becomes an issue of course, so packing right is essential. There would be more weaponry at hand also.

[Gem Windcaster]

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[Tiste Simeon]

This is how I would survive...

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[Illuyankas]

maro, on 14 March 2010 - 11:15 PM, said:

Realistically, if you're using a sword, slicing is better than stabbing - if you've got multiple Z's incoming, you're bound to stuff up and get the blade stuck. Slashes push the target back due to kinetic energy. Even if you don't fully slice through, you'll disable the limb etc.

Whilst I am a massive Shinken fan, mace or tomahawk is the go - blunt trauma to brainstem is what you want.

Amusingly, I had a conversation at a party on Saturday where I was asked why I do Martial Arts.


Zombie Apocalypse is the answer!

No, no, no, slicing is far more risky from a blade-trapping perspective. How do you see yourself dispatching zombies? Wide sweeping neck blows, which get doubly more difficult from exhaustion and blade damage? Bonecracking skull blows, trapping your weapon? If you're putting enough force into a blow to push back a non-resisting target, you're using too much force. Limb disabling is irrelevant, as the mouth is the most dangerous part. And constant wear and tear will blunt any blade by the fortieth extra dead dude, then you have a light metal club.

Reposting from my response in the weapon stash thread:

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Energy preservation and reducing equipment degradation are the key points here. Stabbing weapons reduce the surface area of the weapon that might get jammed in bone, and going in through the eyes reduces that further. Short quick stab-and-swivel thrusts are less tiring (most important part here), less weapon-damaging and more efficient than decaps or crushing the brain with a slash. No edge to get dulled and burred, plus you can lean the redeceased bodies to either side and foul the steps of the other zombies.

[Morgoth]

Amusingly, I just spent some time thinking about this.

Living in Norway, the time of the outbreak is the deciding factor, though my overall plan would be the same.

Now, what I would do no matter is to head for my parents place. My step dad is a big game hunter, so there'll be all the survival gear and military provisions I need at the house. Furthermore there'll be several hunting rifles, two shotguns, plenty of ammunition, and a dog (which is essential). In addition they've got a big trailer that I could fill with all the important, but not essential equipment (in case I need to leave it behind).

If it's summer I'll grab their neighbor's four wheel drive volvo, which is not going to break down and consumes next to no gas.

If it's winter, I'll take my step dad's all terrain suv and bring my skis and a sled.

Either way I'll head to the family cabin in the mountains. This cabin is located 5 hours north of Oslo, close to the Swedish border and on the edge of one of the least populated regions of Scandinavia. The cabin is about a 40 min drive from the closest population center and is not connected to neither the water nor the electricity net. It is supplied with solar panels and a well. I'd use this as a base of operations to move further out to one of the outlying summer farms (small homesteads where the local farmers send their cattle during summer).

If it's summer I wont need as many supplies as the cows and fishing should be able to cover most of my immediate needs.

If it's winter (preferably early winter) it should be a lot easier to stay alive. Skis are fast, and running in a meter or two of snow is next to impossible. I could easily move away and then take my time to shot whomever's following me. Thus it would be a lot simpler for me to go down to the local town to forage food as the zombies would never be able to outrun me, or even give me much of a sweat. That's however not the best part. During winter the average temperature of Norway is something along the lines of -5c, whereas in the area I'll be living generally has a few days as far down as 40-50c. The zombies may or may not need food, but their bodies will freeze completely within a very short time, and I'll be pretty safe. Logically, unless there's a very warm winter, the entirety of Norway should be empty of zombies by March.


The big challenge is getting through the first hour and a half of highway out of Oslo. If I don't get stuck there I wouldn't rate my chances as non existent.

[maro]

Illuyankas, on 15 March 2010 - 12:46 AM, said:

maro, on 14 March 2010 - 11:15 PM, said:

Realistically, if you're using a sword, slicing is better than stabbing - if you've got multiple Z's incoming, you're bound to stuff up and get the blade stuck. Slashes push the target back due to kinetic energy. Even if you don't fully slice through, you'll disable the limb etc.

Whilst I am a massive Shinken fan, mace or tomahawk is the go - blunt trauma to brainstem is what you want.

Amusingly, I had a conversation at a party on Saturday where I was asked why I do Martial Arts.


Zombie Apocalypse is the answer!

No, no, no, slicing is far more risky from a blade-trapping perspective. How do you see yourself dispatching zombies? Wide sweeping neck blows, which get doubly more difficult from exhaustion and blade damage? Bonecracking skull blows, trapping your weapon? If you're putting enough force into a blow to push back a non-resisting target, you're using too much force. Limb disabling is irrelevant, as the mouth is the most dangerous part. And constant wear and tear will blunt any blade by the fortieth extra dead dude, then you have a light metal club.

Reposting from my response in the weapon stash thread:

Quote

Energy preservation and reducing equipment degradation are the key points here. Stabbing weapons reduce the surface area of the weapon that might get jammed in bone, and going in through the eyes reduces that further. Short quick stab-and-swivel thrusts are less tiring (most important part here), less weapon-damaging and more efficient than decaps or crushing the brain with a slash. No edge to get dulled and burred, plus you can lean the redeceased bodies to either side and foul the steps of the other zombies.

It's not a light weapon at all - you didn't read what I posted. Also, a Shinken for my height (6 Foot) has a 31 inch blade - that's plenty of reach to stab. Contrary to what you might thing, it's perfectly easy to stab with one.

Also, my preference would not be my Japanese blade. It would bend/blunt too easily. My custom shinken I sue for cutting is through-hardened. Much tougher and the edge is much more resilient. It's also very easy to touch up (You can use anything from Toothpaste to the bottom of a China plate).

Your argument is sound re stabbing but the area you have to hit to disable a zombie is very small - brain/brain stem. Also, I disagree that the arms are not worth attacking. If you look at the films that feature Zombies, there is always a scene where one of the characters is "taken" by a group of Zombies that have surprised them.

I'd rather have a long edge sharp enough to cut my way out rather than try and stab more than one.

To be fair, I did leave off a Spear as my primary weapon. A long bladed spear with a 7ft shaft is the optimum weapon. Slash and stab.

[knight of shadows]

I don't know if I had to pick one weapon to be my primary weapon it would have to be a halberd great for slashing and hacking with long reach on it.

[Shinrei]

That's it, I'm moving in with Morgoth. He's got the most zombie proof plan in this thread so far. Cabin with solar panels and a well = perfect.

You'd have to shoot any humans on sight though, because they would love to take that from you.

And Maro is right, if you find yourself surrounded at close quarters, a slashing weapon is the only way you're going to get free. Probably a shinken and an estok or spear would be a good combo, with plenty of secondary weapons strapped on. Best to have about half a dozen knives on you - no sense running out.

[Slow Ben]

I'm sticking with my sledgehammer. i know i'll get tired quickly and get eaten soon. But those 10-15 head thwacks with that sledge before i tire, so satisfying.


But seriously, whos gonna be using a sword or something anyway? I'll take the fully automatic shotgun for fending them off at close range.

[MTS]

If I was thinking melee weapons, I'd want a machete, not a sword or a hammer.

[Morgoth]

Shinrei, on 15 March 2010 - 03:39 AM, said:

That's it, I'm moving in with Morgoth. He's got the most zombie proof plan in this thread so far. Cabin with solar panels and a well = perfect.

You'd have to shoot any humans on sight though, because they would love to take that from you.

And Maro is right, if you find yourself surrounded at close quarters, a slashing weapon is the only way you're going to get free. Probably a shinken and an estok or spear would be a good combo, with plenty of secondary weapons strapped on. Best to have about half a dozen knives on you - no sense running out.

How would they possibly find it? The beauty of this is that it's so far from a population center or a road no one without prior knowledge of the place would ever consider going out there.

I still think though that the cold is the real savior.

[Ain't_It_Just_]

Ideal plan:

Stock up on supplies, family members, etc. and drive to the Simpson desert. Begin a pacification of all zombies/jerks. Then start fortifying the place. A cave with water, ventilation, motor pool, storage, weapons stockpile and escape route would be a good spot. And a watchtower three miles from the place would be handy too.

Real-life plan:

Unknown. However, this being Australia we aren't exactly equipped to the hilt. Now, assuming I could keep my family together I'd head around the suburb, determine the level of devastation. If we can co-ordinate with friends or other survivors, good. Collect as many sharp objects as possible. Guns are even better. Then head to the coast-chances are we can catch a boat to Tasmania, where the zombie outbreak/plague/radiation/magic spell/whathaveyou probably won't have struck yet. If we can't do that...then I think we're pretty much screwed. I can't think of a place we can fortify. Maybe a train that travels back and forth between stations.

[Battalion]

You guys gotta stop thinking short term response, and start getting with the program.

Those zombies are here to stay.

You don't want to be one of them.

But you can't survive alone forever.

The answer?

Fuck 'em all.

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[Ain't_It_Just_]

Battalion, on 15 March 2010 - 09:12 AM, said:

You guys gotta stop thinking short term response, and start getting with the program.

Those zombies are here to stay.

You don't want to be one of them.

But you can't survive alone forever.

The answer?

Fuck 'em all.

zom.jpg

Be the Daddy of a new breed of half blood zombies.

Sorry. I'm not into necrophilia. I've always left that to Morgoth.

"takes cover"

[MTS]

Ain, on 15 March 2010 - 11:15 AM, said:

Battalion, on 15 March 2010 - 09:12 AM, said:

You guys gotta stop thinking short term response, and start getting with the program.

Those zombies are here to stay.

You don't want to be one of them.

But you can't survive alone forever.

The answer?

Fuck 'em all.

zom.jpg

Be the Daddy of a new breed of half blood zombies.

Sorry. I'm not into necrophilia. I've always left that to Morgoth.

"takes cover"

No Tiste wisecrack? For shame, AIJ.

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[Shinrei]

Slow Ben - aint no guns in Japan, unless I get one off a dead police officer or one of the few people with hunting licenses here.

@Morgoth, never assume. People will be wandering everywhere during the zombie apocalypse. dibs would find us for sure...

[Obdigore]

Quite simple really:

Pick up our friends Sara and Brent, who have guns and enjoy shooting them. We would then stop at Dicks Sporting goods to pick up camping and cold weather gear (and more guns + shitton of ammo).

We then go up to Lake Superior, grab one of the hundreds of houseboats (for rent), and take it out onto the lake. They are stocked with a month of food/supplies, have waterwheels to recharge the batteries using the current, and well, they float.

With the number of islands in the area, if each of us takes a boat (4 total), we should easily be able to scavenge two to build a shelter on one of the islands. Raiding the small towns/cabins around the shore of the lake would be quite easy to find anything we are missing, including a helluva lot of fishing gear, hunting equipment, boats, and spare fuel. Many of them will also be rocking ATV's and solar powered cells.

The freezing winters should easily destroy any zombies anywhere north of IOWA the first winter, especially if they do not give off any body heat.

If we can survive through the first winter, we should be able to head further north and find a defensible complex. I would imagine we would probably run into other survivors and be able to restart civilization. The only times we would have to worry about zombies is at the end of summer (harvest season) when they might have migrated north from warmer climates.

The biggest thing, do Zombies die after a month of no food like in 28 days later, or will they be around until they fall apart from lack of maintenance or destroyed?

I also think there will be numerous military installations that will remain fully staffed and infection free, although I very much might not contact them until we can verify that the winter has destroyed any/all zombies.

[Slow Ben]

Shinrei, on 15 March 2010 - 12:23 PM, said:

Slow Ben - aint no guns in Japan, unless I get one off a dead police officer or one of the few people with hunting licenses here.

I suppose it would be somewhat handy to know which blade to use then.

[masan's saddle]

Obdigore, on 15 March 2010 - 02:37 PM, said:

The only times we would have to worry about zombies is at the end of summer (harvest season) when they might have migrated north from warmer climates.

Agreed, harvesting migrating zombies during the summer months is damn sweaty work.