[LadyMTL]

Well, it would depend on where I was. If I was here at home I'd probably be screwed. Yes, I live in an apartment but my stairwell opens right onto the street and I live in a pretty big city so there'd probably be zombies everywhere. Of course, if I had the foresight to stock up on the essentials like canned goods, water purification tablets, first aid supplies, ammo, and so on I guess I could tear down the stairwell and "trap" myself.

My ideal, though, would be if I were at my dad's place (aka the Farm) because, being a hunter, not only does he own tons of rifles he's also a crack shot and has a lot of open space around the house so I'd be able to see the little fuckers coming. I mean, he has tree stands for crap's sake, I'd just tell him where to aim and that's one less zombie out there, Plus he grows a lot of his own food (corn especially) and there's a well on the property too, so we'd be ok there...at least short term.

Of course, this is assuming that I'm not caught and killed within the first few minutes of the outbreak,

This post has been edited by Maia Irraz: 16 March 2010 - 09:46 PM

[maro]

In all likelihood, you'd open a Container at the port and 45 Zombies will rush out (People smugglers etc).

That'll learn you!

[Adjutant Stormy~]

The worst thing would be if we got zombie wildlife.

(Zombie dogs / wolves / lions / tigers / bears / oh my, anyone?)

[Soulessdreamer]

Zombie mosequtoes, suddenly maleria looks cuddly

TTFN

[Shinrei]

cerveza_fiesta, on 16 March 2010 - 04:21 PM, said:

ah feck...screw that plan then.

In all honesty, I would find the biggest boat at the nearest marina and live on it with several hunting rifles, pistols and as much ammo as I can get on the boat. I'm talking a 50ft plus sailing vessel. Lots of storage room for supplies and the hot babe I saved from someplace (we'll get to that later).

Then just raid container-ship ports. They're full of imported goods, including food and fuel to support me in the short term. Plus ports are often fenced off from their surroundings, making them a less likely spot for zombie inhabitation. Also, shipping containers would be zombie proof, providing a good retreat in case of emergency...and the place would not be overrun by hungry zombies looking for food since zombies are brainless and have no ability to cut locks on the containers themselves.

Containers would also be very likely to contain other useful items imported to N. America shortly before the zombiepocalypse. I would eventually need to find a map and navigate my way to a south-pacific island where I could clear out the endemic zombie population and live out my days in peace.

This all assumes of course that zombies cannot swim or board vessels in an organized fashion.

It also means I would need to find books on the subject of navigation and some tools to accomplish that task. The tools would come from derelict vessels tied to the container ship docks...meaning minimal leftover crew zombies to deal with. Unfortunatly, the books would require a trip to the public library...and we all know how that scene ends.

Once you get to the island though, you can never let down your guard. Because if they're the type of zombies that don't need to eat anything (the magical zombies, or zombies that require very low amounts of energy) then they could very well wash up on shore, months after you've cleared any zombies already there. That's when you get taken by surprise and finally get zombiefied.

Also, shipping containers? If you find yourself surrounded by a large group of zombies (and the movies don't lie, large groups can suddenly materialize from nowhere), sure you're safe in the short term, but that container will just become your tomb if you have no way to get free.

If it's the case where the fatty zombies last the longest, I should only have to wait out a week or so here in Japan, where everyone is skinny skinny.

[Morgoth]

That's why you need at least one dog. They'll notice any zombies long before you, especially if it's night. Especially if you've been alone for some time, they'll bark at anything human-like approaching from kilometers off.

Now, if they've learned to fear the zombies (which they'd do following you on foraging meeting zombies and experiencing your fear of them) they'll be particularly vigilant. I remember back when I was a kid some guys in their early twenties were at a party at the neighbor's house and for some reason decided -fairly drunk- that they should continue in our house. My step dad blocked the door naturally, but these were big guys. Suddenly, our incredibly docile, well behaved 11 year old dog came up next to him and emitted the scariest growl I've ever heard. The guys ran like hell. During the following last two years of his life, Tex would always walk protectively to the door if someone knocked instead of using the doorbell.

[cerveza_fiesta]

maro, on 16 March 2010 - 11:14 PM, said:

In all likelihood, you'd open a Container at the port and 45 Zombies will rush out (People smugglers etc).

That'll learn you!

Damn...now that's thinking. Hmm...ok. Possible scenario, but still unlikely. Plus whoever was inside would be in a zombieproof container, so if they hadn't already starved to death they'd be still normal.

Which means I now have a crew of imported brides. BAM. (that was the "hot chick") part I talked about before.

Shinrei, on 17 March 2010 - 03:39 AM, said:

Once you get to the island though, you can never let down your guard. Because if they're the type of zombies that don't need to eat anything (the magical zombies, or zombies that require very low amounts of energy) then they could very well wash up on shore, months after you've cleared any zombies already there. That's when you get taken by surprise and finally get zombiefied.

Also, shipping containers? If you find yourself surrounded by a large group of zombies (and the movies don't lie, large groups can suddenly materialize from nowhere), sure you're safe in the short term, but that container will just become your tomb if you have no way to get free.

If it's the case where the fatty zombies last the longest, I should only have to wait out a week or so here in Japan, where everyone is skinny skinny.

BUT...dead things sink... even fat things... Unless they can consciously swim, there's no way a zombie could make it off the ocean floor. I have never in my life heard of a zombie that can swim, nor have I seen one in a movie...therefore it is an impossible scenario. My plan assumes I can easily kill off the endemic zombie population too, but I never said it was going to be easy.

And I realize the shipping container is a stopgap, but at least it gives some time to catch my breath, and prepare for the rush through the zombie horde. Its not a great chance of success, but it's better than being beset by zombie hordes in the wide open. Plus if they're the type of zombie that runs out of steam or food, they'll eventually move on or die. Magic zombies are a problem of course....but based on the small percentage of movies containing magic zombies, there's only a small chance of that scenario. You could avoid starvation in the container by ensuring you always have a backpack full of energy bars and water.

Oh, and I already thought of the "random zombie on my boat" scenario too. Easy. Anchor, wear a wetsuit and swim to shore. Line up my supplies from the containers on the dock's edge right before returning to my boat. That way, when I do the pickup, I spend the least time possible actually within a zombie's reach. Better yet, use a small dinghy to transfer the goods to the boat from shore. It's much more difficult for a zombie to board a shaky little vessel than a large stable sailboat for sure, and if I run into problems...just dive in and swim to my boat.

[maro]

In World War Z, the Zombies cross abyssal trenches by walking underwater!

[Aptorian]

What type of zombies are WWZ zombies?

Unless they are some kind of magical or super healing zombies, it shouldn't be possible for them to walk across the seabed.

At extreme depths their bodies would take too much damage. Also, the seabed is not like walking on the earth above water. While there are bare, rocky like parts, much of the seabed is made out silts and other spungy stuff. The zombies would mire in these areas. There's also the possibility that they'd be eaten or simply lose their way, unless they are magical, they shouldn't have any way of navigating under the water.

[beru]

bodies dont take huge amounts of dmg by beeing deep under water as the body is mainly water (wich get compressed into water with 4 degrees Celsius) the lungs would be sqeezed pretty good tho

[Aptorian]

Of course I might be wrong but, an abyssmal trench is not "just" being under water. To cross an ocean you'll surely be under a kilometer of water and in trenches much more than that, at some point the human body, especially one that decomposing already, is going to mush.

[masan's saddle]

Aptorian, on 18 March 2010 - 07:59 AM, said:

Of course I might be wrong but, an abyssmal trench is not "just" being under water. To cross an ocean you'll surely be under a kilometer of water and in trenches much more than that, at some point the human body, especially one that decomposing already, is going to mush.

That would be Abyssal Trench Apt, your fascination with SJP's genitalia is disturbing.

[beru]

well there is that...
and sharks would probably be happy eating Znacs

and even Chuthulu

[cerveza_fiesta]

Okokok...so due to the *remote* possibility of trenchwalking superzombies, I live on my boat most of the time and keep a small farm on land. I only go on land during the day to gather and tend my crops with brawndo.

Not 100% safe from zombies on the island, but still, its pretty dang good.

I could also prevent the whole sneak-up-from-behind scenario by having my farmable land on a mid-sized cliff overlooking where I've anchored my boat. That way I only have to guard one side while tending the crops, and a securely fastened coil of rope at the cliff's edge provides a quick escape over the edge if I get surrounded from the island side.

Obviously I find all the implements and garden seeds I need in the container ports, and books on how to grow crops in tropical climates during my trip to the library.

[maro]

By Abyss, that's worst case scenario. I haven't read the book but they do appear on islands etc having walked. As mentioned, their lungs don't need to work.

[Ain't_It_Just_]

Not wanting to be the one who causes a panic, but:

Zombie?!

[Aptorian]

Ain, on 19 March 2010 - 08:24 AM, said:

Not wanting to be the one who causes a panic, but:

Zombie?!

What I want to know is whether or not it actually worked

[Corporal Nobbs]

Or you could do this...
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How would freezing kill a zombie?
Wouldn't they just thaw out when winter is over and carry on as before.

[Obdigore]

I believe that water expands when frozen, correct? Wouldn't the expanding water in your body cause extreme damage, especially in your brain/neck?

[cerveza_fiesta]

freezing kills cells cause the little ice crystals that form crush up the internal parts of the cells.

Some stuff comes out of solution when you freeze the water solvent, meaning you have ice crystals with little pockets of high-concentration chemicals in between. Pretty much kills everything. All the animals that can survive freezing temperatures produce natural antifreeze of some kind to prevent this and hibernate through the cold snap.

So yeah, cell damage, but since zombies are already dead...yer still not safe.

Unless you're dealing with aggression-disease zombies like in 28 days later or light-intolerant zombies from "i am legend"...which aren't actually dead. Freezing would take them out for sure.