How do you pronounce...well, anything Malazan discussion of names, will contain some spoilers of names from all book
#21
Posted 24 January 2010 - 04:26 AM
We never did come to an agreement on how to pronounce " Ay'edenan tek' velut !enan "...
#22
Posted 24 January 2010 - 05:51 AM
D, on 24 January 2010 - 04:26 AM, said:
We never did come to an agreement on how to pronounce " Ay'edenan tek' velut !enan "...
Carefully, with the emphasis on the "!enan".
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#23
Posted 24 January 2010 - 07:22 AM
Duiker = Doo-ee-ker," but somewhat slurred, rather than sounded out clearly.
Malazan = Mal (like Reynolds) - ah - zahn
Paran = Pear - ehn
Tavore = Tay - vohr (short "o")
Ruin = Roo - een (rather than roo - in)
Tehol = Tay - whole
Brys = Br - eye - zh (a soft "s" works for the last syllable as well, like the American "Bryce")
I can't think of many more than aren't simply phonetically obvious, in whatever accent of English you speak.
Malazan = Mal (like Reynolds) - ah - zahn
Paran = Pear - ehn
Tavore = Tay - vohr (short "o")
Ruin = Roo - een (rather than roo - in)
Tehol = Tay - whole
Brys = Br - eye - zh (a soft "s" works for the last syllable as well, like the American "Bryce")
I can't think of many more than aren't simply phonetically obvious, in whatever accent of English you speak.
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#24
Posted 24 January 2010 - 07:29 AM
Congratulations! We pronounce nothing alike!
Except, for perhaps Malazan.
I pronounce Brys like I do my name, Bri as in "eyes". Brys.

I pronounce Brys like I do my name, Bri as in "eyes". Brys.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
#25
Posted 24 January 2010 - 11:04 AM
Duiker is pronounced Dooker. Brys is pronounced Breeze. Raest is pronounced Ra-est (as in Ra the sun god and west).
Can't think of any others that surprised me.
Ay'edenan tek' velut !enan - how it appears but don't forget the glottal stops!
Can't think of any others that surprised me.
Ay'edenan tek' velut !enan - how it appears but don't forget the glottal stops!

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#26
Posted 25 January 2010 - 05:26 PM
I think if i remember rightly that Tiste was apparently pronounced in a bizarre way. Kruppe i think was another one that surprised me.
for the record i think
Tiste should be tisst (sounds a bit liek hissed)
Kruppe i pronounce Krupp-uh
Malazan is Mal-ah-zan (this one seems really obvious to me)
Baudin im actually not sure about it keeps changing in my mind but i think its Bow (as in bowing not bow and arrow)-din
from the ones Hetan mentioned i think i dont actually pronounced any of them right
Duiker is Duke-er
Raest is Ray-st (similar to haste)
Brys is Briss
for the record i think
Tiste should be tisst (sounds a bit liek hissed)
Kruppe i pronounce Krupp-uh
Malazan is Mal-ah-zan (this one seems really obvious to me)
Baudin im actually not sure about it keeps changing in my mind but i think its Bow (as in bowing not bow and arrow)-din
from the ones Hetan mentioned i think i dont actually pronounced any of them right

Duiker is Duke-er
Raest is Ray-st (similar to haste)
Brys is Briss
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#27
Posted 25 January 2010 - 05:36 PM
Hoosier's pronunciations look right to me 
Doo-ee-keh!

Doo-ee-keh!
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#29
Posted 27 January 2010 - 10:05 AM
Duiker = Dooy - kehr
Malazan = Mahl - az - ahn
Paran = Pah - rahn
Tavore = Tah - vor (hard r) - eh
Ruin = like the english word, ruin.
Tehol = Tee - ohl
Brys = Bryhs
Urko = Uhr - koh
Quon Tali = Kwon Tah - lee
Seven Cit... ah, wait, scratch that.
Korel = Koh - rehl
Jacuruku = Yah - tzu - ruh - koo
Aren = Ah - rehn
and so on. it might be my cultural and linguistic heritage of spelling, can't help myself most of the times. I'd probably differ a lot from you guys and your thick, moist language patterns.
Malazan = Mahl - az - ahn
Paran = Pah - rahn
Tavore = Tah - vor (hard r) - eh
Ruin = like the english word, ruin.
Tehol = Tee - ohl
Brys = Bryhs
Urko = Uhr - koh
Quon Tali = Kwon Tah - lee
Seven Cit... ah, wait, scratch that.
Korel = Koh - rehl
Jacuruku = Yah - tzu - ruh - koo
Aren = Ah - rehn
and so on. it might be my cultural and linguistic heritage of spelling, can't help myself most of the times. I'd probably differ a lot from you guys and your thick, moist language patterns.
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#30
Posted 27 January 2010 - 06:29 PM
I loved this thread the first time around and will now give you guys my pronunciations. I got one of my buddies into this series and he's always Blackberry messaging me asking how I pronounce things. So here goes. I'll do as many as I can remember.
Ganoes Paran - Gan-o's Pay-run
Tavore - Tuh-vor
Duiker - Dwicker
Onos - OHNOES!
Icarium - eye-care-ee-um
Mappo - Map-o
Brys - Bris
Tehol - Tay-ol
Kruppe - Crewp (lol)
Tiste Andii - Tist-e Andy (help me on this one please)
Tiste Edur - Tist-e Ee-der
Tiste Liosan - Tist-e Lee-o-zan
T'lan Imass - Literally TLAN EYEmus
Rhulad - Rue-lod
Ruin - English word 'ruin'
Purake - pure-ik
K'Chain Che'Malle - KCHAIN chuh-mall
Lether - Like "leather" but the 'th' is hard
Kallor - Kuh-lor
Ganoes Paran - Gan-o's Pay-run
Tavore - Tuh-vor
Duiker - Dwicker
Onos - OHNOES!
Icarium - eye-care-ee-um
Mappo - Map-o
Brys - Bris
Tehol - Tay-ol
Kruppe - Crewp (lol)
Tiste Andii - Tist-e Andy (help me on this one please)
Tiste Edur - Tist-e Ee-der
Tiste Liosan - Tist-e Lee-o-zan
T'lan Imass - Literally TLAN EYEmus
Rhulad - Rue-lod
Ruin - English word 'ruin'
Purake - pure-ik
K'Chain Che'Malle - KCHAIN chuh-mall
Lether - Like "leather" but the 'th' is hard
Kallor - Kuh-lor
#31
Posted 28 January 2010 - 12:27 AM
Icarium for me is pronounced like Illiad. Soft I, not Eye.
#32
Posted 28 January 2010 - 02:14 AM
jacuruku has been forever changed in my mind. yahtzuruku for ever!
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#33
Posted 09 February 2010 - 08:51 AM
Ganoes Paran - GAN (short a) - oh - z PAH - RAN (short a's)
Tavore - TAH (short a) - voar (like 'soar', or 'whore')
Duiker - DOO - ick - er
Icarium - I (short i) - care - ee - um
Mappo - MAH (short a) - po (long o)
Brys - like 'breeze'
Kruppe - CRU (long u) - pay
Tiste Andii - TIS - tay AN - dee
Tiste Edur - TIS - tay EE - door
Tiste Liosan - TIS - tay LEE - oh - zan
T'lan Imass - TELL - ANN EE - ma - ss
K'Chain Che'Malle - K CHAY - n CHEM - all - ee
Malazan - MAH (short a) - la - ZAH (short a) - n (not Malaysian... though I am forever going to read it that way, now, damn it...)
D'ivers - like the contestants in the sport of diving, though sometimes I read it like d - EE - ver - z
I've also wondered if 'Kalam' is KAH - lam (like 'lamb'), or if it's KAH - LAM (short a, same emphasis as first syllable).
I'm so used to reading Greek mythology where Aphrodite is AFRO (hah) - dye - tee that I almost always put some emphasis on the last 'e' with long names.
Tavore - TAH (short a) - voar (like 'soar', or 'whore')
Duiker - DOO - ick - er
Icarium - I (short i) - care - ee - um
Mappo - MAH (short a) - po (long o)
Brys - like 'breeze'
Kruppe - CRU (long u) - pay
Tiste Andii - TIS - tay AN - dee
Tiste Edur - TIS - tay EE - door
Tiste Liosan - TIS - tay LEE - oh - zan
T'lan Imass - TELL - ANN EE - ma - ss
K'Chain Che'Malle - K CHAY - n CHEM - all - ee
Malazan - MAH (short a) - la - ZAH (short a) - n (not Malaysian... though I am forever going to read it that way, now, damn it...)
D'ivers - like the contestants in the sport of diving, though sometimes I read it like d - EE - ver - z
I've also wondered if 'Kalam' is KAH - lam (like 'lamb'), or if it's KAH - LAM (short a, same emphasis as first syllable).
I'm so used to reading Greek mythology where Aphrodite is AFRO (hah) - dye - tee that I almost always put some emphasis on the last 'e' with long names.
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were but children. I have commanded armies a hundred
thousand strong. I have spread the fire of my wrath
across entire continents, and sat alone upon tall thrones.
Do you grasp the meaning of this?'
'Yes,' said Caladan Brood, 'you never learn.'
were but children. I have commanded armies a hundred
thousand strong. I have spread the fire of my wrath
across entire continents, and sat alone upon tall thrones.
Do you grasp the meaning of this?'
'Yes,' said Caladan Brood, 'you never learn.'
#34
Posted 19 February 2010 - 07:12 PM
It's strange, but I've recently altered my pronunciation of 'Andii' and it's all because of the word 'Andiian'
While reading DoD I came across 'Andiian' and I first pronounced it as: An - dee - eye - an.
but that sounded wonky and not like a people's race should sound. It didn't have the same ring as Liosan, Letherii, or Tali.
SO I changed it in my head to: An - dye - ee - an, and it all-of-a-sudden sounded better to my sensibilities. Now I started saying Andii as An-dye-ee and it just sounds better.
While reading DoD I came across 'Andiian' and I first pronounced it as: An - dee - eye - an.
but that sounded wonky and not like a people's race should sound. It didn't have the same ring as Liosan, Letherii, or Tali.
SO I changed it in my head to: An - dye - ee - an, and it all-of-a-sudden sounded better to my sensibilities. Now I started saying Andii as An-dye-ee and it just sounds better.
#35
Posted 19 February 2010 - 08:11 PM
Ammanas: uh-MAWN-uss
Brys: BRISS
D'ivers: duh-EYE-vurz
Duiker: DOO-ick-er
Edur: EE-der
Ganoes Paran: GAN-oze PAIR-en
Icarium: ick-AIR-ee-um
Jaghut: JAG-uht
K'Chain Che'Malle: kuh-CHAYN chuh-MAYL
Kruppe: KRUP
Liosan: lee-OZE-nn
Mael: MAY-uhl
Malaz: muh-LAZ
Malazan: MAL-uh-zan
Raest: RAY-ist
T'lan Imass: tuh-LAWN EYE-mass
Tavore: tuh-VORE
Tehol Beddict: TEE-hole BED-ickt
Tiste Andii: TISS-tee ANN-dee
Brys: BRISS
D'ivers: duh-EYE-vurz
Duiker: DOO-ick-er
Edur: EE-der
Ganoes Paran: GAN-oze PAIR-en
Icarium: ick-AIR-ee-um
Jaghut: JAG-uht
K'Chain Che'Malle: kuh-CHAYN chuh-MAYL
Kruppe: KRUP
Liosan: lee-OZE-nn
Mael: MAY-uhl
Malaz: muh-LAZ
Malazan: MAL-uh-zan
Raest: RAY-ist
T'lan Imass: tuh-LAWN EYE-mass
Tavore: tuh-VORE
Tehol Beddict: TEE-hole BED-ickt
Tiste Andii: TISS-tee ANN-dee
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#36
Posted 20 February 2010 - 08:49 AM
Andii = Ann-DEE or Ahn-DEE, depending on how I feel.
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#37
Posted 02 March 2010 - 04:52 AM
Bent, on 15 January 2010 - 10:37 PM, said:
H.D., on 15 January 2010 - 08:51 PM, said:
At the Chicago meet there was a definite difference in how we pronounced the words. All I remember is that my pronunciations tended to match Morgy's pronunciations, and differed quite a bit from Bent's.
I would like to point out, however, that Steve CONFIRMED, that my pronunciation of MALAZAN (muh-lay-zshun...much like malasia, was accurate.)
muh-lay-zshun is the correct pronunciation of MALAZAN ? The malaysian book of the fallen ? The malaysian army ? Always be Ma La Zan for me, dont care what steve says lol
#38
Posted 03 March 2010 - 06:05 PM
So does that mean "Malaz" reads like "malaise"? I refuse to say it that way, but thematically I dig it.
"Here is light. You will say that it is not a living entity, but you miss the point that it is more, not less. Without occupying space, it fills the universe. It nourishes everything, yet itself feeds upon destruction. We claim to control it, but does it not perhaps cultivate us as a source of food? May it not be that all wood grows so that it can be set ablaze, and that men and women are born to kindle fires?"
―Gene Wolfe, The Citadel of the Autarch
―Gene Wolfe, The Citadel of the Autarch
#39
Posted 08 March 2010 - 07:06 PM
YEah, I will never pronounce it like that. Sorry Steve, it's my head, I can talk how I like inside of it.
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#40
Posted 08 March 2010 - 07:34 PM
it's ma-LA-zan, like...I dunno, just accented on the 'la', nothing weird 
edit: I suppose the similarity to 'Malaysian' is the accent on the middle syllable, but there's no 'ay' sound
Tiste as in 'heist'
Andii = andee
Edur - ed-ur, though Hetan has got me saying ee-dur and I now prefer it that way
Raest = Ra-est
Mael = male

edit: I suppose the similarity to 'Malaysian' is the accent on the middle syllable, but there's no 'ay' sound
Tiste as in 'heist'
Andii = andee
Edur - ed-ur, though Hetan has got me saying ee-dur and I now prefer it that way
Raest = Ra-est
Mael = male
This post has been edited by Malaclypse: 08 March 2010 - 07:52 PM